The battle of Good and Evil

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Apr 13, 2009, 12:40:13 PM4/13/09

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The adversary surrounds Jerusalem, outnumbered a thousand strong for
every man woman and child; the gentiles are a lawless brood. The
wicked have grown strong in their blasphemy and the people are
scattered and wearied as the rising image of the beast rises as a
standard within the world. Deception runs deep and the armies of goy
do not understand the wickedness of their pagan ways they learned from
their Father’s.

Daniel J. Boorstin once said, “An image is not simply a trademark, a
design, a slogan or an easily remembered picture. It is a studiously
crafted personality profile of an individual, institution,
corporation, product or service.”

Deu 27:15 ‘Cursed is the man who makes a carved or moulded image, an
abomination to [Yahweh] יהוה, the work of the hands of the craftsman,
and sets it up in secret.’ And all the people shall answer and say,
‘Amĕn!’

An interesting turn of phrase in scriptures, “The work of the hands of
the CRAFTsman, and sets it up in SECRET.”

Welcome to the image of Babylon. Where once we thought a light was
thought to be shining on the hill, an empire of darkness emerges that
wars against the command of the King of Israel, Yehoshua Ben YAHWEH,
son of the most High and Almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth, Elohim
of Earth.

Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her
fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication
with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the
abundance of her delicacies.

And still, the demons of the pits are about to be unleashed upon the
world. Hatred, enmity and strife will reign as they are given to the
whims of their hearts and babes and handmaidens will prophecy. Yahweh
keeps for himself a tiny remnant scattered amongst the gentiles but
then in order to show his power on earth, that’s just the way he
demonstrates it, thru the David and Goliath stories, where the meek
overcome.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and
create evil: I YHWH do all these things.

That deck is completely stacked by Yahweh, creator of all things good
and EVIL. That’s right, Satan and all the demons, created beings
controlled by the Almighty to test the spirit of men. You and I are
being tested and some of those demons are powerful and not to be toyed
with. Life is a test and that’s the great revelation to share with
you, whether you will be faithful with what you have been given, just
like the parables of Yehoshua but in that knowledge, that the outcome
is assured, is HOPE.

The challenges in life that greet you are not a battle of good versus
evil and we do not wrestle with “spirits in high places”. Those
spirits are under authority, granted by Yahweh and the authority
granted to them is limited as illustrated in the book of Job and
Jubilees. All we must do is recognize when spiritual influence occurs
and ask our Abba Yahweh to send them away and learn to obey him so
that worse doesn’t come.

Deu 4:20 “But [YAHWEH] יהוה has taken you and brought you out of the
iron furnace, out of Mitsrayim, to be His people, an inheritance, as
it is today.

You are being molded as a potter forms clay, this is the ultimate
purpose of testing you, proving you, showing you right rulings to fear
and serve YAHWEH alone and none else. Everything has its purpose from
demons to false apostles to make you into something better than we are
today. Still, many strive against our Abba in vanity

Isa 29:15 Woe to those who seek deep to hide their counsel far from
[YAHWEH] יהוה, and their works are in the dark; they say, “Who sees
us?” and, “Who knows us?” 16 How perverse of you! Should the potter be
reckoned as the clay? Should what is made say of its Maker, “He did
not make me”? And what is formed say of Him who formed it, “He did not
understand”?

YAHWEH is the Almighty because he created it ALL, good and evil and
those who think he doesn’t understand are ignorant of this great
truth, that there is no battle between good and evil. Simply put,
evil was created so that we could learn from it what not to do and the
results of our disobedience. All you have to do is open your eyes to
the world around you and anybody can see the results of the evil men
have created by not obeying the scriptures. “You do not murder” and
yet, we justify wars by the same scriptures and the heathen reckons
them evil. Scriptures are not evil, the men who misinterpret them are
and YHWH is sovereign over all things.

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On Apr 14, 4:10 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
> guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au>news:829f0745-9db9-4340...@i28g2000prd.googlegroups.co
> m

Were you going to comment and decided not too?

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guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>
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> On Apr 14, 4:10 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
>> guardian Snow

>> <snowpheo...@eck.net.au>news:829f0745-9db9-4340-a809-874e7f
> b66...@i28g2000prd.googlegroups.co

>> m
>
> Were you going to comment and decided not too?

Neither, but that does not concern you. What does concern the
audience is your posturing & speaking of things you are glaringly
ignorant of.

To wit: the title of this thread you introduced & crossposted in
order to impress yourself.

There is no battle between good & evil, just people like you
pretending there is.

Good: an artificial concept used to describe things we want to do,
or have done to us. In nature, which we are part of, there is no
collective concious concept of good.
In the religious sense, what you want others to do.

Evil: Another artificial concept used to describe things we don't
want, or don't want done to ourselves.
In the religious sense, what you want others to do.

Collectively, used to mold peoples mental patterns in an effort to
control them. Both politicians & high & low priests use the terms
interchangably.

The concepts are useful when used as something other than boogey men.

Good, that which befefits a society, or gene pool, preferrably
without harming others.

Bad, that which harms a society or gene pool by causeing harm to
others, or a gene pool.

Now, you can play with those observations, you can play with the
dictionary & claim they are wrong. Or you can show them to be wrong
& you to be right. Care to play?

Hint, I will cram your attempts to divert & sidetrack by employing
scripture as an authority right back down your throat.
After all, what makes yolu think that if the Hebrew Bible & Greek
testments have historical errors, & they do, they don't have
mythological claims for the truth wrong as well.

No, that is not a threat, I don't bother with them. It is a fact.

Your only choice, should you elect to play BMOC, is to address the
concepts & falsify them.

walksalone who knows full well that nature has no good or evil, just
consequences. Some of which are not a pretty sight.

Now feel free to continue to pretend you have something worth saying,
or knowledge you have yet to demonstrate.

The door of a bigoted mind opens outwards so that the only result of
the pressure of facts upon it is to close it more snugly.
-Ogden Nash, author (1902-1971)

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On Apr 15, 10:42 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

> Now feel free to continue to pretend you have something worth saying,
> or knowledge you have yet to demonstrate.

Talking to yourself? Not a good sign.

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> On Apr 18, 2:22 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
>
>> Talk about the unintended irony of the average bleeder. But be
>> that as it may, it is simply more handwaving by a person who
>> knows he cannot answer anything much beyond, what time of day it
>> might be if and only if, he is looking at Big Benin London.
>
> Your ignorance screams and rants grow as you blather on in endless
> post that seriously nobody cares about. You make nonsense claims
> that say, I can't answer things but you've asked nothing and
> wasted your time again.

& still, you avoid the obvious, that you shot off your mouth & fail
to be able to back it up. How typical of blowhardus xianiaus like
you. Again, so the audience can see why you are pulling your famous,
it's not me but you that is wrong act. BTW, if no one is interested,
does that mean you can speak for anyone but yourself, or are you no
one?

Unanswered & unmarked text removal reinserted. As it will continue
to be every time snow shows up on ARCB or any other news group I am
subscribed to.

Original act by snow:

guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>
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First followup by walkslaone, which has led to no less than 5
responses, none of which have addressed his claim that good & evil
are enties & real, which of course, he knows they aren't. He does
not even recognise the trope he used.

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walksalone who accepts that all snow can do is try & pull a snow job.
Can some nice person tell him why it isn't working. Not that he will
believe you, but you can say you tried.

"Aristotle was once asked what those who tell lies gain by it. Said
he, "That when they speak truth they are not believed."

guardian Snow

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Mar 11:26 “But if you do not forgive, neither shall your Father in the
heavens forgive your trespasses.”

To clear our debt, we first must forgive another dept without
expecting return. What I find troubling over all is that nobody wants
to actually talk about the doctrine of Christ. All the vast majority
of people want to do is argue over pettiness and attack each other.

As to forgiveness, It goes deeper and nobody really seems to really
practice it... A tragic situation is going all around where people
claim to be Christians and never follow his teachings. The other
mistake I see are people remaking the Messiah into an image that
suites the need of the person posting the message. They refashion and
create a new god that isn't in the scriptures.

Mat 10:37 “He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of
Me, and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
38 “And he who does not take up his stake and follow after Me is not
worthy of Me.

People are pretending to be Christian and not following him.

“Don't find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain.”
Henry Ford

Begin to see yourself as a soul with a body rather than a body with a
soul. Everything has a purpose, even this, and it's up to you to find
it.

Luk 6:21 “Blessed are you who hunger now, because you shall be
satisfied. Blessed are you who weep now, because you shall laugh. 22
“Blessed are you when men shall hate you, and when they shall cut you
off, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as wicked, for the
sake of the Son of Aḏam. 23 “Rejoice in that day and leap for joy,
for look, your reward is great in the heaven, for that is how their
fathers treated the prophets.

You are blessed by being attacked because you have received a chance
to repay large debts. By forgiving those that attack you and placing
your faith in Elohim, you realize that you have no need to defend
yourself.

Isa 54:17 “No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every
tongue which rises against you in judgment you shall prove wrong. This
is the inheritance of the servants of [Yahweh] יהוה, and their
righteousness from Me,” declares [Yahweh] יהוה.

A lot of people paint a dark. bleak picture of the future using the
bible. I don't agree with a lot of people’s interpretation of the
future but... It seems to me that people in general are painting that
bleak image and being self-fulfilling.

I often wonder why so many people must attack other people’s
intelligence and opinions. Is it true that our self-esteem is so low
that we can't help but log onto the Internet just to find somebody
that we don't agree with and attack them? Why is it so hard to
respectfully disagree with each other?

You have our own concept of what I am speaking about and many have
failed to understand. Our thoughts were scattered and your mode is
attack and so you set out to do battle with somebody that has no
desire to resist you.

Clearly others have no desire for my beliefs and so they thought this
was a fight and they came with guns blazing to empty fields and didn't
see the sign that said “the war is over” for me. I have Victory and
my peace and you are entitled to try and make it yours by means of
your aggression and your war making.

Men are fighting... because they are convinced that the extermination
of adversaries is the only means of promoting their own well-being.
Only one thing can conquer war - that attitude of mind which can see
nothing in war but destruction and annihilation. War... is harmful,
not only to the conquered but to the conqueror.

Mat 5:39 but I say to you, do not resist the wicked. But whoever slaps
you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.

Where would you like me to go? Do you believe that anybody that
disagrees with you is setting themselves up for your attack? You must
realize the aggressors here will attack you for a belief.

Knowing my victory isn't unloving when you’re invited to join. You
may choose to pretend you’re a victim while you go around attacking.
The truth is you’re a result of your own aggression. The highest form
of ignorance is when you reject something, when you don't know
anything about that belief.

Why would you attack people, do you even know? People speak as if they
the casualty. They can still pretend to be a victim being trampled
on, the hanged man spending time accusing people that aren't involved.

So ultimately we hate the fact that you know you’re committing sin and
in rebellion condemn all those who try and help. You condemn them
because you feel they condemned you but the fact is, I am not your
judge and I have no desire to judge you. You alone have judged
yourself and created your own negative apathy.

When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself.
Your own self loathing becomes quickly apparent as you blame all those
trying to teach the truth. These people have painted a self fulfilled
dark future and not ours and that is what they resent.

Why do you expect to receive love when you wrongly accuse others? The
truth is we don't want it, even when it's offered and we demonstrate
that by accusing innocent people and pretending righteousness. I don’t
call you a fool but it's foolish to reject something you don't or
can’t understand. A person who won't read has no advantage over one
who can't read.

“Adversity is the first path to truth.”
Lord Byron

So then you are attacking and won't admit you’re a hypocrite and hide
behind words like "blasphemy" and yet, I avoid liable and we still
want to challenge because, it represents all that we fear.

So cry foul, whine and moan about it you think I don't care about
people. I tell you the truth and you choose your own fate. Don't
think I'm going to follow you into the pits of your own dark soul
friend; I'm not obligated or instructed by my scriptures to be so
foolish.

1Pe 2:11 Beloved ones, I appeal to you as sojourners and pilgrims, to
abstain from fleshly lusts which battle against the life, 12 having
your behaviour among the gentiles good so that when they speak against
you as evil-doers, let them, by observing your good works, esteem
Elohim in a day of visitation.

So if I tell you how to save your life, how does that not demonstrate
love? It is smarter to quote the truth. We ask question when we want
to challenge another person’s belief and seek a response. Being
worried about a lie shows only a lack of faith in the truth.

Joh 8:31 So [Yehoshua] יהושע said to those Yehuḏim who believed Him,
“If you stay in My Word, you are truly My taught ones, 32 and you
shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

It is for the reason to be free that we teach only the way of the
peaceful warrior, to stay in the word of truth. There is no way to
prosperity, prosperity is the way.

Mat 28:18 And יהושע came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority
has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 “Therefore, go and
make taught ones of all the nations, immersing them in the Name of the
Father and of the Son and of the Set- apart Spirit, 20 teaching them
to guard all that I have commanded you. And see, I am with you always,
until the end of the age.” Amĕn.

The fact that we are willing to say, ''I do not understand, and it is
fine,'' is the greatest understanding you could exhibit. Tell the
truth and people will see what a lie is and the light will shine for
all to see.

Mat 4:16 the people who sat in darkness saw a great light, and upon
those who sat in the land and shadow of death, light arose to them.”1
Footnote: 1Isa. 9:1-2. 17 From that time [Yehoshua] יהושע began to
proclaim and to say, “Repent, for the reign of the heavens has drawn
near.”

The journey is what brings us happiness not the destination. The ones
who are hardest to love are usually the ones who need it the most. A
warrior is not about perfection or victory or invulnerability. He's
about absolute vulnerability.

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forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.'
And now here is my secret, a very simple secret; it is only with the
heart that one can see rightly, what is essential is invisible to the
eye.
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Here we go again.
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walksalone who at one time thought, cut and paste was for lazy
people. But people like snow have convinced me, this is not always
the case.

People of small caliber like to sit on high horses.
-Magdalena Samozwaniec, writer (1894-1972)

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On Apr 20, 5:12 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
> guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au>news:fc2a2f9f-d68e-4e08...@z16g2000prd.googlegroups.co

> m
>
> Here we go again.

You poor ranting little man with no life. I pity you.

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> On Apr 20, 5:12 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
>> guardian Snow

>> <snowpheo...@eck.net.au>news:fc2a2f9f-d68e-4e08-8992-ce18a0
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>> m
>>
>> Here we go again.
>
> You poor ranting little man with no life. I pity you.
>

Of course you do, you always pretend to pity those that know more
than you do, & those that point out that not only do you have no
life, but are willing to get attention anyway you can. In the
states, they call someone like that an attention whore.
Now being you had a choice, absent yourself from groups I subscribe
to, or or back up your big mouth, one more time. It's all you get.
The audience, OTOH, may get more on occasion. You get your nose
rubbed in the dunny floor.

walkslaone who does not find surprise art snow's continued evasion &
attempt to divert attention away from that fact. Hot air has no real
presence in the outback, you can't tell snow's from jw's.

Evil is like a shadow - it has no real substance of its own, it is
simply a lack of light. You cannot cause a shadow to disappear by
trying to fight it, stamp on it, by railing against it, or any other
form of emotional or physical resistance. In order to cause a shadow
to disappear, you must shine light on it.
-Shakti Gawain, teacher and author (b. 1948)

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Apr 20, 2009, 1:52:57 AM4/20/09

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On Apr 20, 2:38 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

> >> Here we go again.
>
> > You poor ranting little man with no life. I pity you.
>
> Of course you do, you always pretend to pity those that know more
> than you do

And you call me, a stranger you don't know arrogant, Silly man.

Isa 45:23 “I have sworn by Myself, a word has gone out of My mouth in
righteousness, and shall not return, so that to Me every knee shall
bow, every tongue swear.
Isa 45:24 “One shall say, ‘Only in יהוה do I have righteousness and
strength’ – he comes to Him. And all those displeased with Him shall
be put to shame.
Isa 45:25 “In יהוה all the seed of Yisra’ĕl shall be declared right
and boast. ”

Have a good day and keep posting.. I like it, so why would I want you
to stop?

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> On Apr 20, 2:38 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Here we go again.
>>
>> > You poor ranting little man with no life. I pity you.
>>
>> Of course you do, you always pretend to pity those that know more
>> than you do
>
> And you call me, a stranger you don't know arrogant, Silly man.

Ah, but I know people that act as you do, & they always try & paint
themselves as a person of higher ethics than they are. Your running
& conduct here in this newsgroup have established what you are, &
it's not the snow you want everyone to think you are.
But it appears you have never met thoser like me, or ran away from
them if you did.

So, how about some answers child, lest you weary your devotees to
leaving you.

walksalone who is here for the duration.

The history of our race, and each individual's experience,
are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not
hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.
—mark Twain

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On Apr 20, 7:14 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

> > And you call me, a stranger you don't know arrogant, Silly man.
>
> Ah, but I know people that act as you do, & they always try & paint
> themselves as a person of higher ethics than they are. Your running
> & conduct here in this newsgroup have established what you are, &
> it's not the snow you want everyone to think you are.
> But it appears you have never met thoser like me, or ran away from
> them if you did.

1Pe 2:19 For this is favour, if because of conscience toward Elohim
anyone bears up under grief, suffering unrighteously.
1Pe 2:20 For what credit is there in enduring a beating when you sin?
But if you suffer for doing good and you endure, this finds favour
with Elohim.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered
for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,1
Footnote: 11 Cor. 11:1, 1 John 2:6.
1Pe 2:22 “who committed no sin,1 nor was deceit found in His mouth,”2
Footnotes: 1John 8:55, John 15:10, 2 Cor. 5:21, John 3:5. 2Isa.53:9.
1Pe 2:23 who, being reviled, did not revile in return; suffering, did
not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously;
1Pe 2:24 who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that
we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness1 – by whose
stripes you were healed. Footnote: 1Rom. 6:2, 1 Peter 4:1-2.

Thank you for again giving me the opportunity to demonstrate the love
of Yehoshua for all mankind. He loves you too walksalone. Take care
and be blessed. Look forward to many more opportunities to witness to
you.

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> On Apr 20, 7:14 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
>
>> > And you call me, a stranger you don't know arrogant, Silly
>> > man.
>>
>> Ah, but I know people that act as you do, & they always try &
>> paint themselves as a person of higher ethics than they are.
>> Your running & conduct here in this newsgroup have established
>> what you are, & it's not the snow you want everyone to think you
>> are. But it appears you have never met thoser like me, or ran
>> away from them if you did.

Still avoiding the issues you raised with phoney attemts to be pious
& quote mine theunauthorised Greek Testamenst? Even you should
realse the futility in that.

One more time as the sun said.

How many times will you avoid backing up your big mouth, as many
times as it takes for you to realise that there is a way out for
you. & it is not trying to explain your claim.

walksalone who recalls making mistakes like snow has. But he
learnewd to admit when he had said things he could not support with
evidence. A lesson xians at large have yet to learn.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should
reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

guardian Snow

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On Apr 20, 10:54 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

> How many times will you avoid backing up your big mouth, as many
> times as it takes for you to realise that there is a way out for
> you. & it is not trying to explain your claim.

Dearly beloved and to those who are dead,

We are gathered here today to mourn the loss
of Walksalone, Thommadura and Fred.

They preached evolution at all cost
and now they meet the Eternal, lost.
Against the Savior they did rebel
Without the Light, they lived in Hell,
They argued until their souls condemned
And came to meet a tragic end.

We gather today to mourn poor Fred,
Who still resides with the living dead.
We grieve the parting of WalksAlone,
Who resents the truth that he was shown
Thommadura’s passing was so sad,
When his salvation was easily had

They never knew love, without repentance
From God above they serve there sentence
Judgment was swift, of that I’m sure,
Now Satan’s grasp they will endure.

I mourn for men, forever lost
The price for them, a grievous cost
I thought it fitting to share this word,
Too bad for them, faith was absurd.

An early obituary, saying “Hell is hot”,
For this reason the Good News was brought,
to those who are dead, …before they rot.

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All men whilst they are awake are in one common world: but each of
them, when he is asleep, is in a world of his own.
Plutarch

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guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>
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> On Apr 20, 10:54 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
>
>> How many times will you avoid backing up your big mouth, as many
>> times as it takes for you to realise that there is a way out for
>> you. & it is not trying to explain your claim.
>
> Dearly beloved and to those who are dead,

I join you today to verify that, yes, snow is still incapable of
responding to a situation he has created for himself. But in keeping
with his protected eulogy, the following is offered for your
consideration. And of course that will be followed with the message
that snow has yet to respond to. After all, I wouldn't want it said
the youngling didn't have a chance to correct his mistakes.

And now, for the eulogy. One I can take no credit for, and do not
mind pointing out the author, who made several valid points in a
rather a civil manner.

Eulogy
by Bill Barnes

God died today in the heart of another man.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust,
And in this soil a seed is planted.

God died today in the mind of another woman.
The black dirt, the moist earth,
From this new garden, wisdom grows.

I was always taught that God died that I might live.
I never realized how true this was.
His death nourishes the seeds of wisdom, happiness, and freedom.

This is a eulogy, a benediction.
I am saddened by my loss,
But know a better life is ahead of me.

Love and hate marked this relationship.
I loved this mythical invisible father.
I hated the crotchety old judge.

Like the battered child,
Who still loves their parents,
I am glad he's gone, but I still miss him.

The new garden I have has wonderful plants,
But I must pull weeds of doubt and guilt,
It's my responsibility now.

As a child must grow and leave the safety of home,
I have grown and left the eternal security of heaven.
I have outgrown my god, and laid him to rest

And now, for snows star performance of the century.

From: guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>
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After all, what makes you think that if the Hebrew Bible & Greek

testments have historical errors, & they do, they don't have
mythological claims for the truth wrong as well.

No, that is not a threat, I don't bother with them. It is a fact.

Your only choice, should you elect to play BMOC, is to address the
concepts & falsify them.

walksalone, who accepts the responsibility of continuing to point
this out in order to to remove any doubt from those that are seeking
information about various mythologies, snow is not the teacher he
pretends to be. He's not even really glib, but he's happy with his
efforts, because he makes no effort to improve or correct them.

All religions are the same: religion is basically guilt, with
different holidays.
-Cathy Ladman, comedian, writer, actress (1955- )

guardian Snow

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I have no authority over you dear reader. I have no followers and I
want none, I have only brothers that teach me and everybody is my
teacher. My friends teach me one thing and my enemies teach me other
lessons. Authority can only be granted by the person submitting to a
perceived or real higher authority. Thomas Hobbes once said, “He that
is taken and put into prison or chains is not conquered, though
overcome; for he is still an enemy.”

True authority is never taken and never can be. The faith that stands
on authority is not faith and this is why we willingly worship the one
true authority in all the world, YAHWEH. Mohandas Gandhi once said,
“Moral authority is never retained by any attempt to hold on to it. It
comes without seeking and is retained without effort.” But he said
this while trying to wrestle authority away from the British
Monarch.

Yehoshua long ago told his disciples in Mat 10:16 “See, I send you out
as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as *serpents and
innocent as doves. The word serpent might actually surprise some of
you in its definition:

G3789
ὄφις
ophis
Probably from G3700 (through the idea of sharpness of vision); a
snake, figuratively (as a type of sly cunning) an artful malicious
person, especially Satan: - serpent.

Yehoshua himself tells you be wise as Satan but innocent of
transgression of the Torah. This means I do not lie but then I don’t
need to include the entire spectrum of my feelings to my enemies.

I have found over the course of public speaking that many people hate
me for speaking of the many deceptions within the modern main stream
church, I seem to attracted enemies like flies to a bright light on a
hill. Detractors of the scriptures of YAHWEH like to try and trap you
in endless debates by asking you questions they have no desire to have
answered.

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye
your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and
turn again and rend you.

If you do bother to answer these people, they will only throw several
other issues back in your face and you end up in endless arguments and
endless strife.

As we believer know, Yehoshua always gave the best advice in dealing
with life’s issues and in Luk 6:27 “But I say to you who are hearing:
Love your enemies, do good to those hating you. 28 “Bless those
cursing you, and pray for those insulting you. 29 “And to him who hits
you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes
away your outer garment, do not withhold the inner garment either.

In pondering this issue one must ask, do you we just allow our enemies
to pulverize us? The answer is clearly not so, we must ask better
questions like, “How do I overcome my enemy without resisting him?” I
certainly don’t agree with him… but then, the answer is Yes, you do
agree with what you find agreeable.

My latest thread stalker is another unbeliever who didn’t like my post
about, “The battle of Good and Evil”. His ultimatum to me was to spam
every thread I started cross posting to alt.religion.christian.baptist
until I stopped posting to groups he monitored. In his spam, he said
I was, “an attention whore”. I quickly agreed with him and thanked
him for all the attention he has lavished on me since after all, he
believe this to be the reason I cross posted, which to a degree, I
can’t deny.

Can anybody who post messages honestly say that they want the messages
they post to go not noticed?

(RNKJV) Ecc 1:2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of
vanities; all is vanity.

Admitting that it’s true, “I want attention”, isn’t a sin. Yehoshua
said in John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall
make you free.

The definition of insanity given by great thinkers like Benjamin
Franklin says, “Insanity is repeating the same behavior, expecting a
new result.” Which is to say, “If you do what you've always done,
you'll get what you've always gotten.” With that in mind psychology
teaches us that when dealing with an adversary, if one tactic doesn’t
work, try another. If basic psychology doesn’t work, try reverse
psychology. Instead of telling the person to take a hike, tell them
how grateful you are for the attention.

My enemy wanted me to come to him and engage him in debate but he
lacks any authority, I do not follow him. He did not ask me to teach
him and so I have nothing to give him but I did take every opportunity
to quote scriptures to him because it provokes him as the word
provokes all who hate our Messiah.

Luk 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Shalom,

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He that is taken and put into prison or chains is not conquered,
though overcome; for he is still an enemy.
Thomas Hobbes

walksalone

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guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>
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> I have no authority over you dear reader. I have no followers and

And yet, you pretend to not only have authority by being an authority
on your mythology, but you expect people to join your myopic point of
view. In other words, you seek authority and you want followers.
This is based on your posting history and your willingness to
multiple cross posting to groups that do not actively engage you in
conversation.

> I want none, I have only brothers that teach me and everybody is

But you do want to, and brothers, why just brothers. Where are the
sisters. All that's correct, under the founder of xianity, women are
to shut up on matters of theology. Or so it is claimed in a forgery
attributed to Saul.

> my teacher. My friends teach me one thing and my enemies teach me

You have friends, the word is plural. No doubt in real life,
hopefully you do have what you call friends. Even if they are no
more to social acquaintances. However, your enemies are self-
proclaimed and only enemies in your own mind.

> other lessons. Authority can only be granted by the person
> submitting to a perceived or real higher authority. Thomas Hobbes

Authority, over others, can be one of two varieties. There is the
enforced authority, which often is harsh. Military discipline comes
to mind, prisoners doing hard time comes to mind. Kindly do not try
to tell them they do not have authority over them. In one case, it
was voluntary, and the other it is not.

> once said, “He that is taken and put into prison or chains is
> not conquered, though overcome; for he is still an enemy.”

& they always will opposed to you as long as you attempt to opress
them. But that's too obvious, and people like you assume
automatically that they are quite correct, and everybody else should
line up automatically.

Now once again, you're going to be exposed with a coward you are, the
ethical and intellectual coward.

After all, what makes yolu think that if the Hebrew Bible & Greek

testments have historical errors, & they do, they don't have
mythological claims for the truth wrong as well.

No, that is not a threat, I don't bother with them. It is a fact.

Your only choice, should you elect to play BMOC, is to address the
concepts & falsify them.

walksalone, who does realize that snow has put himself in a no-win
situation, and does not mind rubbing his nose in that fact.

For what is Truth? In matters of religion, it is simply the
opinion that has survived. In matters of science, it is the
ultimate sensation.
—oscar Wilde

guardian Snow

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On Apr 21, 11:29 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
> guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au>news:95066304-a1df-47b9...@b7g2000pre.googlegroups.com

>
> > I have no authority over you dear reader. I have no followers and
>
> And yet, you pretend to not only have authority by being an authority
> on your mythology, but you expect people to join your myopic point of
> view. In other words, you seek authority and you want followers.
> This is based on your posting history and your willingness to
> multiple cross posting to groups that do not actively engage you in
> conversation.

The only authority in the world is Yahweh. Cross posting only means
that I am seeking more attention and I have to thank you for keeping
my post at the top of the heap. Without your thankless contribution,
most likely my post would have sunk past the first page and gone into
history all but forgotten.

Can you see how you have come to serve me? Why I would be grateful
that even somebody with perverse ideas continues to enjoy making my
threads and my topics remain on the first page of Google?

You can't pay for advertising as good as your giving me and you do it
for free.. I love you man!

Keep up the good work. You continue to be an excellent example of how
to deal with faithless adversaries such as yourself.

Shalom,
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Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
Andre Gide

walksalone

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guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>
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Continuing to do his best to avoid answering any questions. They did
not make him look better than he is, left the following evasion
behind it

> On Apr 21, 11:29 pm, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com>
> wrote:
>> guardian Snow

>> <snowpheo...@eck.net.au>news:95066304-a1df-47b9-8cc0-d0ca20
> eca...@b7g2000pre.googlegroups.com

>>
>> > I have no authority over you dear reader. I have no followers
>> > and
>>
>> And yet, you pretend to not only have authority by being an
>> authority on your mythology, but you expect people to join your
>> myopic point of view. In other words, you seek authority and
>> you want followers.
>
>> This is based on your posting history and your willingness to
>> multiple cross posting to groups that do not actively engage you
>> in conversation.

> > means that I am seeking more attention and I have to thank you

for
> keeping my post at the top of the heap. Without your thankless

The thing about taking your trash to the side of the road and placing
it there for pickup by the sanitation workers. Is that you let
everybody know it's trash. That leaves trash pickers like you free
to play it as long as they clean up behind themselves. No, you are
receiving attention you do not want, unfavorable attention. Of
course for an attention whore, and those with a nartistic
personality, any attention will do. Even when it exposes them as a
poser and phony.

> contribution, most likely my post would have sunk past the first
> page and gone into history all but forgotten.

It has been forgotten by the majority of posters. After all, they
are not responding to you. Of course, maybe they realize, just as I
do, in an attempt to hold intelligent conversation with you is
referred to as a fairy circus. An unreal expectation if one wants to
see it.

Now let's continue back to where you attempt to pretend to have
knowledge, knowledge you cannot provide evidence full. Hot air does
not count as evidence.

If this looks familiar, it's because it is. You keep running away
from it.

walksalone, who is mildly amused at what you know, play it like a
small child hiding behind its hands pretending the world does not
know it is there and has made a mess on the floor. As with small
child, the question remains. Who's going to clean the carpet.

Lots of people think they're charitable if they give away their old
clothes
and things they don't want. It isn't charity to give away things you
want
to get rid of and it isn't a sacrifice to do things you don't mind
doing.
-Myrtle Reed, author (1874-1911)

guardian Snow

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On Apr 22, 1:22 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

> Continuing to do his best to avoid answering any questions.

I have enjoyed for several days allowing you to make a fool of
yourself. It's time to let you know why me and a bunch of other people
are laughing at you.

You haven't asked any questions other than, "Care to play?" of which
my answer was clearly NO.

Kindly take a moment to examine your own spam and find me a question
besides that. Clearly you are unarmed in a battle of whits where you
stand no chance. I will again point out that all you can do is
demonstrate to the world that you have mental issues.

Pro 3:30 Do not strive with a man without cause, If he has done you no
evil.
Pro 3:31 Do not envy a cruel man, And choose none of his ways;
Pro 3:32 For the perverse one is an abomination to יהוה, And His
secret counsel is with the straight.
Pro 3:33 The curse of יהוה is on the house of the wrong, But He
blesses the home of the righteous.
Pro 3:34 He certainly scoffs the scoffers, But gives favour to the
humble.
Pro 3:35 The wise do inherit esteem, But fools are bearing away shame!

I won't bother to respost the same spam as you do... Just know it was
actually somebody else that pointed it out to me.

She said, "Are you still talking to yourself"? The good thing is,
you'll continue to make sure my threads stay at the top of the heap.

It might be a good time to actually ask questions.

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If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always
gotten.
Tony Robbins

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Deu 32:21 “They made Me jealous by what is not Ěl, They provoked Me
with their worthless matters. But I make them jealous by those who are
no people, I provoke them with a foolish nation.

walksalone

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guardian Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au>
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> On Apr 22, 1:22Ā am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

>
>> Continuing to do his best to avoid answering any questions.
>
> I have enjoyed for several days allowing you to make a fool of

Really? Fancy that, you mean to say I am imitating you? I doubt any
but you can say that with a straight face.

> yourself. It's time to let you know why me and a bunch of other
> people are laughing at you.

Let me guess, all three of ypou.

> You haven't asked any questions other than, "Care to play?" of
> which my answer was clearly NO.

BTW, it reads if you care to play BMOC, which is what you are trying
right now. The topic can be discussed without your usual airs.

I see you can't read & interpolation anything that does not stroke
your ego.

> Kindly take a moment to examine your own spam and find me a

Usenet is not e-mail, nor is a response to the same groups you
spammed considered spam b y most if not all articulate posters. Now
I reaise you have a how dare I point out your lack of ethics &, well,
general knowledge.

> question besides that. Clearly you are unarmed in a battle of
> whits where you stand no chance. I will again point out that all

Depends. If a half wit engaged you, you would be unarmed as long as
it pertains to your mythology, your pet gods, & yes it is gods, as
well as general klnowledge about usenet. Your English isn't all
that good either, but it does not take much effort to cipher the
ramblings of bleaters.

> you can do is demonstrate to the world that you have mental

Nice try Herr Doktor, but if I have issues, that makes you stark
raving bonkers.

> issues.

Generally speaking, I take issue with blowhards that don't know what
they are talking about, like the below. IOW,people like you & a
former full time poser. Whjich is why you will continue to run like
a scalded dog rather than defend your claims. & no, your consent is
not required for you were given two choices.

walksalone who doubts snow really knows that this is not about him as
a xian, it's about him as a liar & blowhard.

All religions have based morality on obedience, that is
to say, on voluntary slavery. That is why they have always
been more pernicious than any political organization.
For the latter makes use of violence, the former—of the
corruption of the will.
—alexander Herzen

guardian Snow

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On Apr 23, 12:42 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

> > you can do is demonstrate to the world that you have mental

> > issues.
>
> Generally speaking, I take issue with blowhards that don't know what
> they are talking about, like the below. IOW,people like you & a
> former full time poser. Whjich is why you will continue to run like
> a scalded dog rather than defend your claims. & no, your consent is
> not required for you were given two choices.

Still, no questions. You can rant and call me names like a child
unable to debate all you want but that's hardly a constructive
dialog. Try asking a question if you want to engage a debate. Making
non-sense claims and expecting people to stoop to your level of
immaturity isn't a game I play.

walksalone

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guardian Snow <mr_snow...@yahoo.com.au>
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> On Apr 23, 12:42 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
>
>> > you can do is demonstrate to the world that you have mental
>> > issues.
>>
>> Generally speaking, I take issue with blowhards that don't know
>> what they are talking about, like the below. IOW,people like you
>> & a former full time poser. Whjich is why you will continue to
>> run like a scalded dog rather than defend your claims. & no,
>> your consent is not required for you were given two choices.
>
> Still, no questions. You can rant and call me names like a child

Somewhat remeniscent of the following is our child the little
snowflake.

A Man and a Lion were discussing the relative strength of men
and lions in general. The Man contended that he and his fellows
were stronger than lions by reason of their greater intelligence.
"Come now with me," he cried, "and I will soon prove that I am
right." So he took him into the public gardens and showed him a
statue of Hercules overcoming the Lion and tearing his mouth in
two.
"That is all very well," said the Lion, "but proves nothing,
for it was a man who made the statue."
We can easily represent things as we wish them to be.

But in the meantime, people are starting to notice that you are long
on words, & short on ability to support them.

IOW:

Run little rabbit, but don't forget to claim victory as you outrace
the speed of dark.

walksalone who has finally found a use for cut & paste.

The best minds will tell you that when a man has begotten
a child he is morally bound to tenderly care for it,
protect it from hurt, shield it from disease, clothe it,
feed it, bear with its waywardness, lay no hand upon it
save in kindness and for its own good, and never in any
case inflict upon it a wanton cruelty. God's treatment of
his earthly children, every day and every night, is the
exact opposite of all that, yet those best minds warmly
justify these crimes, condone them, excuse them, and
indignantly refuse to regard them as crimes at all, when
he commits them.
Mark Twain

Mike Painter

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Walksalone plays no games and has a great deal of history and archeology to
support his views. The vast majority of all scholars agree with him and find
your do-it-yourself approach amusing at best.
There is consensus for the most part among them about what the bible is and
there is nothing devine about it.

And when I say scholar I'm not talking about somebody from a school put
together to teach a particular view of the bible based on what an individual
thinks.

"There are many people who claim to be biblical scholars. I refer to
scholars who have the necessary training in languages, biblical archeology,
and literary and historical skills to work on the problem, and who meet
discuss and debate their ideas and research with other scholars through
scholarly journals, conferences, etc."
Richard Elliott Friedman "Who wrote the bible."

guardian Snow

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On Apr 23, 3:28 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> Walksalone plays no games

He also doesn't ask questions but demands answers is if can't speak
the English language. Your endorsement (atheist #1) hardly endears a
response.

> and has a great deal of history and archeology to
> support his views.

His knowledge of the copy and paste buttons on his keyboard doesn’t
impress me.

> The vast majority of all scholars agree with him and find
> your do-it-yourself approach amusing at best.

Wow, the “scholars agree” argument. Are you selling propaganda now?
Hitler use to love that argument.

> There is consensus for the most part among them about what the bible is and
> there is nothing devine about it.

Scriptures are a collection of books written over a period of
thousands of years. We aren’t talking books and your childish friend
hasn’t asked me any questions for discussion, I think you missed that
point also. I’m kind of disappointed with you Mike, I know you’re
smarter than just wasting your breath endorsing a lunatic’s pointless
tirade.

Making dozens of statements and asking, “Care to play?” isn’t a
debate or discussion, it’s a rant.

> And when I say scholar I'm not talking about somebody from a school put
> together to teach a particular view of the bible based on what an individual
> thinks.

So already you admit that you limit your source of scholarly
research. This is the dullest “battle” I’ve ever encountered. A
retard spamming the same post is about as exciting as swatting flies.

I think he’ll need a lot more atheists to come help him out… Where's
Thommadora and Fred when you need them?

Pro 14:32 The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the
righteous hath hope in his death.
Pro 14:33 Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding:
but that which is in the midst of fools is made known.

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Apr 22, 2009, 2:43:51 PM4/22/09

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"Mike Painter" <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net>
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> guardian Snow wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 12:42 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> you can do is demonstrate to the world that you have mental
>>>> issues.
>>>
>>> Generally speaking, I take issue with blowhards that don't know
>>> what they are talking about, like the below. IOW,people like you
>>> & a former full time poser. Whjich is why you will continue to
>>> run like a scalded dog rather than defend your claims. & no,
>>> your consent is not required for you were given two choices.
>>
>> Still, no questions. You can rant and call me names like a child
>> unable to debate all you want but that's hardly a constructive
>> dialog. Try asking a question if you want to engage a debate.
>> Making non-sense claims and expecting people to stoop to your
>> level of immaturity isn't a game I play.
>
> Walksalone plays no games and has a great deal of history and
> archeology to support his views. The vast majority of all scholars

Well, I did not stop at the first piece of information that I agreed
with, or disagreed with. I will never know it all, but mythology has
taught me much & abated my ignorance in several fields.
One thnin g I did learn, no one website has all the info, & those
without references are genearally worthless.

> agree with him and find your do-it-yourself approach amusing at
> best. There is consensus for the most part among them about what
> the bible is and there is nothing devine about it.
>
> And when I say scholar I'm not talking about somebody from a
> school put together to teach a particular view of the bible based
> on what an individual thinks.

But that is what a scholar is to people like snow. He would run from
those that do not pat him on the head, say good boy Ubu, & give him a
doggie biscuit.
At least that is the approach he indicates he prefers.

> "There are many people who claim to be biblical scholars. I refer
> to scholars who have the necessary training in languages, biblical
> archeology, and literary and historical skills to work on the
> problem, and who meet discuss and debate their ideas and research
> with other scholars through scholarly journals, conferences, etc."
> Richard Elliott Friedman "Who wrote the bible."

Well yes, but for those that like snow, won't/can't/don't understand
all those concepts & big words, could you give them a thumbnail
version?

walksalone who leaves the games to the blowhards, after all, their
strawmen strain their ability tio defeat.

Fear prophets... and those prepared to die for the truth,
for as a rule they make many others die with them, often
before them, at times instead of them.
蓉mberto Eco

walksalone

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Apr 22, 2009, 3:02:06 PM4/22/09

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> On Apr 23, 3:28 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Walksalone plays no games
>
> He also doesn't ask questions but demands answers is if can't

Just because you can't understand the obvious does not mean everyone
else is so limited. BTW, I also give answers as you have removed
from several of your photo session responses.

> speak the English language. Your endorsement (atheist #1) hardly
> endears a response.

As ios if can't? I am beginning to suspect that English is neither
your milk tongue, nor is language. BTW, idle curiosity, are you home
schooled. That would explain so much.

>> and has a great deal of history and archeology to
>> support his views.
>
> His knowledge of the copy and paste buttons on his keyboard
> doesn’t impress me.

Nothing that fai9ls to stroke your ego impresses you. But cut &
paste is all you get until you learn to defend your assertions. &
it's more than you deserve. Pity so little is all it takes you to
make a bleeding fool of yourself.

>> The vast majority of all scholars agree with him and find
>> your do-it-yourself approach amusing at best.
>
> Wow, the “scholars agree” argument. Are you selling propaganda
> now? Hitler use to love that argument.

Typical, you act as if you have something to say, & then blow it. A
better question, which scholars say this & what is their standing in
academic circles. But wait, you don't accept academic credentials
for you can't earn them.

>> There is consensus for the most part among them about what the
>> bible is a
> nd
>> there is nothing devine about it.
>
> Scriptures are a collection of books written over a period of
> thousands of years. We aren’t talking books and your childish

The word bible is used as a collection of books. Nothing holy there.
Let's see, there are several bibles that I am aware of, the Avesta,
the Rig Veda, the Q'uran[sp], the chemists bible, the shooters bible.
The word bible is sacred only to you & those that don't know what it
really means, Side note, there is no New Testament for yahweh cut
that off in Duet., 4:2 IIRC. & no, there is no exemption for xians,
or Islam.

Scriptures OTOH, simply mean written word[s], which can be a
collection of anything from Grimm's fairy tales to the Paul Bunyun
saga.

> friend hasn’t asked me any questions for discussion, I think you
> missed that point also. I’m kind of disappointed with you Mike,

You were asked, you just can't realise it, or admit it. Actually, I
was way to polite & that probably has you still confused. Hint, you
are still running as far as the audience is concerned. But then, you
have to, the fact is you can't back your mouth with evidence.

> I know you’re smarter than just wasting your breath endorsing a
> lunatic’s pointless tirade.

You do it all the time when you pretend you have something to say as
you paly droll troll across usenet. But then, he does not engage you
in discussion at you with regularity, so don't worry. other than
you, no one will accuse him of acting like you.

snip wasted space.

Now back to watching you tap dance across the stage as you continue
to lose credability with serious readers.

guardian Snow

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Apr 22, 2009, 5:10:30 PM4/22/09

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On Apr 23, 5:02 am, walksalone <spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:

Your rants are getting more boring. Are you ever going to ask more
then a rhetorical question?

"Now back to watching you tap dance across the stage as you continue
to lose credability with serious readers. "

Pride is not something I worry about.

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Apr 22, 2009, 6:06:50 PM4/22/09

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guardian Snow wrote:
> On Apr 23, 3:28 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Walksalone plays no games
>
> He also doesn't ask questions but demands answers is if can't speak
> the English language. Your endorsement (atheist #1) hardly endears a
> response.
>
>> and has a great deal of history and archeology to
>> support his views.
>
> His knowledge of the copy and paste buttons on his keyboard doesn't
> impress me.

Of course not, he presents valid evidence and you provide your own opinion
based on limited knowledge.

>
>> The vast majority of all scholars agree with him and find
>> your do-it-yourself approach amusing at best.
>
> Wow, the "scholars agree" argument. Are you selling propaganda now?
> Hitler use to love that argument.
>

ALL of science as well as msot other disiplines are done by people reaching
agreement.
Granted your method of making things up as you go along is easier, but it
does not make it right.
Would you go to a self taught doctor?

>> There is consensus for the most part among them about what the bible
>> is and there is nothing devine about it.
>
> Scriptures are a collection of books written over a period of
> thousands of years. We aren't talking books and your childish friend
> hasn't asked me any questions for discussion, I think you missed that
> point also. I'm kind of disappointed with you Mike, I know you're
> smarter than just wasting your breath endorsing a lunatic's pointless
> tirade.

"Scriptures are a collection of books" and "We aren't talking books" forces
me to ask what you are talking about.
I have never endorsed your point of view and consider you the most likely
candadate in any thread you appear in.

>
> Making dozens of statements and asking, "Care to play?" isn't a
> debate or discussion, it's a rant.

No, it's a question and you don't answer it.

>
>> And when I say scholar I'm not talking about somebody from a school
>> put together to teach a particular view of the bible based on what
>> an individual thinks.
>
> So already you admit that you limit your source of scholarly
> research. This is the dullest "battle" I've ever encountered. A
> retard spamming the same post is about as exciting as swatting flies.

Exactly the opposite and if you reread what you snipped you will see that's
what I claimed.
Unless you consider what all the major grad schools of divinity in the world
to be limiting.

>
> I think he'll need a lot more atheists to come help him out. Where's

> Thommadora and Fred when you need them?
>
> Pro 14:32 The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the
> righteous hath hope in his death.
> Pro 14:33 Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding:
> but that which is in the midst of fools is made known.

And naturally only you are the righteous based on what you believe.

guardian Snow

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Apr 22, 2009, 6:30:59 PM4/22/09

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On Apr 23, 8:06 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> "Scriptures are a collection of books" and "We aren't talking books" forces
> me to ask what you are talking about.
> I have never endorsed your point of view and consider you the most likely
> candadate in any thread you appear in.

I'd have to change my beliefs if you did Mike:)) Being that you both
hold similar religious beliefs, your naturally biased against the
scriptures of my Elohim.

> > Making dozens of statements and asking, "Care to play?" isn't a
> > debate or discussion, it's a rant.
>
> No, it's a question and you don't answer it.

To the singular question, the answer has been No from the beginning.

> > Pro 14:32 The wicked is driven away in his wickedness: but the
> > righteous hath hope in his death.
> > Pro 14:33 Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding:
> > but that which is in the midst of fools is made known.
>
> And naturally only you are the righteous based on what you believe.

And naturally, you are the only one whose beliefs are correct.
Hypocrites, aren't we all.

Mike, I happen to appreciate you. Your friend hates my scriptures but
I see you as at least a reasonable voice of your religion (Humanism).
So... let's see you actually ask a question in the conversation rather
then just try and condescend me. Here's the test... I'll respost my
original thoughts on good and evil and let's see if you can't actually
start a dialog based on your opinion of it.