What's the difference between a Wichita Lineman and a Rhinestone Cowboy?

[hit any key]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoymGCDYzU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kAU3B9Pi_U

[jazee...@gmail.com]

I actually liked Glen Campbell and do not appreciate your sarcastic tribute to his sad departure from our crazy world. Oh sure, you may not have been putting him down directly, but you could at least have said something nice like, "He will be missed", or, "There will never be another like him" (something nobody will say when you die, Clown). You dissed the rhinestone cowpoke. I will see you in hell!

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:00:15 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> I actually liked Glen Campbell and do not appreciate your sarcastic tribute to his sad departure from our crazy world. Oh sure, you may not have been putting him down directly, but you could at least have said something nice like, "He will be missed", or, "There will never be another like him" (something nobody will say when you die, Clown). You dissed the rhinestone cowpoke. I will see you in hell!
>
> TJ

PFF Bozo!

I already forgot that he died.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 8:18:54 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> PFF Bozo!
>
> I already forgot that he died.

Whoa wait a minute, why are you saying Bozo is PFF? I clicked on his links to see what made you said, "PFF Bozo". I saw nothing funny, just Campbell singing. Now, if you are mocking the dated appearance of the clip, ok, I can see an idiot of today doing that - and you Ollie are an idiot of today even as you continue to long slow crawl toward the ultimate age attainment that culminates with death (just like Glen). I know what you mean though, the pleasure gained from the death of celebs these days is short lived, the passer-oners either too old for shock value or too young to be known. Manson should have been more patient, not so blood thirsty. He could have taught his disciples to not only kill celebrities but to train other recruits to do the same, building basically an army of famous people killers coast to coast and you never know where they're gonna strike next.

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Never a Glen C fan. He achieved notoriety but fame?

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 2:12:11 PM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> Never a Glen C fan. He achieved notoriety but fame?

I didn't think you were. I was not a fan in the sense of going out and buying his albums. I also did not care for his popular stuff. I did like Witchita Lineman for some reason. But Campbell was first and foremost a studio guitar player. He said he was not a country singer, just a country guy who sings. And that is what he was. At the old Hollywood Poolroom which had an eclectic jukebox - I even went out and bought some used 45s to put in there myself - there was a song sung by Campbell that was a traditional Sinatra type song, and he did it well. It was one of my favorite songs on the jukebox. Same with Johnny Cash. I did not like him singing the stuff he was known for, I did not care for it - but I had several albums of him doing obscure folk songs and so forth and I liked it. So with some of these guys it depends on what they put out there. But I can readily understand people not being Campbell fans as I'm sure the polyester suits and 70s hairdo gave him a square look. I did like his voice though. He was however a guitar player first and backed up all sorts of singers from Sinatra to rock guys. This is all I have to say in a nice way about Glen. Ok, it's over, I'm ready to laugh at Glen's death. It was no shock because I knew for some time of the dude's declining health. They had a documentary on him, showing him singing through the songs and forgetting lyrics but able to laugh at it himself. In some ways I like entertainers who have gone over the hill and are humble about it - even they can no longer sing as well as before, sometimes the new version is more real and vulnerable, and instead of trying so hard to sing right they learn instead to talk the song which gives it more depth. Wow, that was a deep analysis, wasn't it?

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Yours would make a great obit for him.

[hit any key]

Don't forget Witchita Lineman was written and arranged by somebody else and haunts with echoes from the analog world that are hard to beat.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 3:22:08 PM UTC-4, hit any key wrote:

> Don't forget Witchita Lineman was written and arranged by somebody else and haunts with echoes from the analog world that are hard to beat.

I liked it. Not in a big way, but I liked it. Yeah, telephone poles, route 66, fresh desert air, blue skies, hitch hiking - a pack of hungry coyotes normally afraid of humans so hungry they don't care are heading my way. Or, wait a minute, are those bears? Grizzlies? Yep, Campbell died one day last week. And as Ollie said, he forgot about Glen before that day was even over. I too have forgotten about Glen. Why not? Glen had dementia. Alzeheimers. He forgot a lot of stuff. What better way to pay tribute to Glen than to forget about him now?

TJ

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 12:14:23 PM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> Yours would make a great obit for him.

Your words forced me to go back and look to see what you were talking about. I agree, it wouldn't make a bad obit. That's they way they should be written, toss in a bit of the bad with the good, then swing out of it by ending with the good, or at least a toned down version of the bad. A guess an obit isn't much different from a review. Some reviews can be cheap, real fence riders - same with obits, playing it safe, not saying out of the norm. I remember reading a review of a new Sinatra album that came out in the 70s. I didn't like much of Frank's stuff after the 40s or 50s anyway, but the album in question really did stink, IMO. Also in the opinion of the reviewer who didn't have the guts to blast the fabled crooner. The guy started out heading in that direction, then abruptly stopped and said something like, "Well, it's certainly not up to his usual standards such as the lovely "In a Lonely Place", and the heart-wrenching "I'll See You in My Dreams" album. Those albums were Frank at his best." Then the guy went into talking about those albums for nearly the full review. It was funny the way he started out like he was going to lambaste the new Sinatra album, which he should have done - but instead he just gave that impression, then launched into something we'd be apt to hear at a lifetime tribute awards ceremony. But yes I did think, now that you mention it, that my comments could serve as an obit - but only for the most truly talented and understanding of his peers.

Remember the post about the despicable Craig Goss (or whatever)? I'm going to google it up and post it to the group even though I know you've seen it before. It was from a post to the ACS group by some comic who claimed to be offended by Goss's comments at a dead comic's funeral. I believe he was serious. Still it was hilarious to me and also could serve as an obit in itself.

TJ

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

I don't like the personal testimonial stuff at funerals. If he really care about the person you would be unable to talk. At my mothers service which we did a few months after her death I was barely able to thank the people in attendance without breaking down. A person that can get up at a funeral and talk on and on is not someone I would want talking at my funeral. Let a professional like a preacher, rabbi, or whatever do it.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

Ollie wrote:

> I don't like the personal testimonial stuff at funerals. If he really care about the person you would be unable to talk. At my mothers service which we did a few months after her death I was barely able to thank the people in attendance without breaking down. A person that can get up at a funeral and talk on and on is not someone I would want talking at my funeral. Let a professional like a preacher, rabbi, or whatever do it.

I don't like funerals period, so for me the rules are naturally more lax. I don't want to be there unless I'm going to be entertained in some way. It doesn't have to be traditional, just entertaining. If that means people going up and lambasting the deceased with words of truth, then so be it. Of course the words must be true, otherwise it would be just another cheap roast. If a person has an entertaining true story involving the deceased, I want to hear it. I also encourage people to do the same at my funeral. But first I have to have a funeral, and second I have to persuade people to attend. I'd probably have to pay people to show up. I am not complaining because I not only do not want a funeral for myself, I don't want to attend the funeral of someone else, unless of course it is entertaining and relaxed with a fun fun fun for the whole family kind of feel to it.

Bring on the Clowns!

TJ

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 9:06:10 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> I don't like the personal testimonial stuff at funerals. If he really care about the person you would be unable to talk. At my mothers service which we did a few months after her death I was barely able to thank the people in attendance without breaking down. A person that can get up at a funeral and talk on and on is not someone I would want talking at my funeral. Let a professional like a preacher, rabbi, or whatever do it.

Of course my earlier post was not complete as I should say I favor the flamboyant funeral only for deceased friends and acquaintances, who in the end are just as important as so called 'loved ones', but would never suggest barging into a private style family affair and mess it up with a bunch of insult-laden affectionate farewell speeches. But if only friends show up, some kind of memorial service, even if loved ones show up too - if it is not a private affair belonging to someone else such as family members, then those in attendance should not only have the right to say anything they want but to blast it out poetry slam mic in hand prowl the stage style.

Wow, when I heard he was dead I just had to come - glad I did - here's a good story about him from a few years ago. Anybody want to hear it? Ok, ok, here it is!

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Did Nixon have a funeral? I know I was not invited. That would have been interesting to go to. I wonder if Nixon wished he could have been assassinated like Kennedy was? Made a martyr.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 7:54:40 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> Did Nixon have a funeral? I know I was not invited. That would have been interesting to go to. I wonder if Nixon wished he could have been assassinated like Kennedy was? Made a martyr.

People who follow politics, most of them anyway, are really stupid. Worse, they pretend to be smart. For example, when Nixon was impeached and quit office, whenever I'd ask people why it happened they'd say, "Watergate." I'd say, "Yeah, but what is Watergate?" I never met a person who could tell me what it was. So I'd come back with that - "You're accusing the guy of something and you don't even know what it is." To that the response was always the same, and always followed by a short period of hemming and hawing: "Uh, well, he lied."

They'd say he lied. "About what?", I'd say. They'd say, "About Watergate", which of course would bring me back to question number one: "What is Watergate?"

People today are conditioned to see Nixon as a demon of some sort. I remember, perhaps selfishly, that times were not so bad when Nixon was in office. What else can I go on? I am no fan of any politician, not really - but it's scary and sickening how people can be conditioned to think poorly of them.

Nixon was too smart to be assassinated. Kennedy was a fool. Should have had his eyes open that day in Dallas. Fool.

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Todays hero is tomorrows zero.

I probably sort of understood what was going on with Watergate but it was an excuse by people who didn't like Nixon's politics. That is obvious. What Nixon did was what he did not do and that was admit he knew about the break in and it was done by some of his re-election campaign people. That was a crime so he fucked up.

Clinton banged a woman and lied about it (which I think is ok since he was married) but for political reasons it was made a big deal.

But I have gotten to where I hate politics. Lets discuss farts.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

You have reached the enlightened stage at last. Yes, let's drop politics except in a general way. I don't mind discussing it that way. But to make it this guy vs that guy, the same old issues, the same old shit, nope, I have hated that shit for years.

Don't worry, farts will be discussed - at length.

TJ

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 7:38:55 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 4:41:33 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:

> Todays hero is tomorrows zero.

How about in reverse, except as a military recruitment ad - "Today's zero is tomorrow's hero."

be all you can be!

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Some guys that signed up for Nam thought it would be like WW2. They would come back as heroes. At least some got to come back.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 7:36:56 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> Some guys that signed up for Nam thought it would be like WW2. They would come back as heroes. At least some got to come back.

Cold case heroism. Posthumous accolades. "Are you listening down there?" the President screams while bending low beside the tomb to the Unknown Soldier (who represents our heroes who did not return of all wars. "Today, belatedly, we recognize your contribution to our nation and declare official closure in this case." Then he turns to his men and says, "Fill it in", as the empty casket it dragged out and the big empty hole is filled with cement.

A famous mathematician/scientist who recommended the wall to replace the unknown soldier tomb, in his own words: "Why one guy in a hole when we can get a million signatures on a wall?" Good thinking. Every profession, every field of endeavor, gets a wall. Comics, actors, janitors, office workers, whatever, they all get their own wall, each loaded with signatures of famous and even less famous people from their respective fields.

Wall me in Charlie,

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Good use for the border wall. Put all the dead's names on it.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 7:42:41 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> Good use for the border wall. Put all the dead's names on it.

Hang all offenders from the wall. Not by the neck. Just drape them over the wall and paste them on with some kind of strong glue. Over time it will fill up with thousands of bodies, all alive and kept that way on a steady diet of beans and tortillas as well as random baton beatings by passing wall patrol guards looking for excitement to liven their day.

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Activist like to cry about all the injustices in the world. Man they got no idea what's coming down the pike. They look at a country like Sweden and say why aren't our jails like that and I look at China and say that is what's coming.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 7:49:43 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> Activist like to cry about all the injustices in the world. Man they got no idea what's coming down the pike. They look at a country like Sweden and say why aren't our jails like that and I look at China and say that is what's coming.

What makes you so sure ours aren't near the top of the list when it comes to bad? How many people reporting on Chinese prisons or other prisons throughout the world have actually been in them? And even if they were, were they in enough prisons world wide to make honest comparisons?

I am sick of activists. Like the anti protesters at the Klan/Nazi gathering in Virginia. I don't know the number, but in that group of anti protesters you can bet there were some violent ones bent on causing harm. I have seen American Nazis in person, once when I was in my late teens at Dulles Airport in Washington DC. I saw George Lincoln Rockwell. All they did was show up. The anti protesters were the ones who lead the charges. These fucking activists are bullies of the worst kind. I am sick of people claiming to be liberal. Anyone can make that claim. Actions are needed. I am a member of no group, nor would I be. But there is something very bullyish and also very phony about these anti protesters and others clamoring for peace, so many of them that one is forced to wonder if there are really as many liberal open minded peace lovers as claimed why the things to which they claim to be opposed still exist. Somebody is lying. A lot of somebodies. And it's ugly and I guess there is nothing we can do about it.

By the way, today in the newspaper, second page, rather large headline - "Tina Fey Talks About Charlottesville on SNL". Wow. Like that is news. 7 billion people on earth and far more stories than that and all they can dig up is Tina Fey talking about Charlottesville on SNL.

TJ - president and founder, "AAA", or "Triple A" - anti-activist activist association.........

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

I don't know about other prisons and I plan not to know except what I see in movies. I don't care for our jails. I want to be freeeeee

I have had to stop talking to a couple of people because of all this political shit. If I don't go with their side I am a racist. Can't have conversation on that basis. I am not left or right and see through the shit on both sides. This liberal holier than thou bullshit is out of hand. Trump is odd but who the fuck isn't. Show me one other politician any better. Just one. Of course they all got a favorite. I can hear it now - Hillary, Sharpton, Al Gore. Obama,,

I want no president. All the states need to secede. Then the cities. Then the neighborhoods until it is just me.

[jazee...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 12:56:00 PM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> I have had to stop talking to a couple of people because of all this political shit. If I don't go with their side I am a racist. Can't have conversation on that basis. I am not left or right and see through the shit on both sides. This liberal holier than thou bullshit is out of hand. Trump is odd but who the fuck isn't. Show me one other politician any better. Just one. Of course they all got a favorite. I can hear it now - Hillary, Sharpton, Al Gore. Obama,,
>
> I want no president. All the states need to secede. Then the cities. Then the neighborhoods until it is just me.

It's weird, I've never voted and never will and never cared for any president in a big way but am on the side of Trump only because it's so obvious how the guy is being hounded by the press with really heavy-handed editorials masquerading as headlines in the paper front to back. He may not have been a politician when he was elected, but he has to be one now. He must be flexible. He is not very eloquent. Not so good with words on the fly. But at least he speaks his mind to some extent and I hope he doesn't stop. For instance, about the Charlottsville thing, saying there are two sides to every story - those were very true words but are naturally twisted to infer he supports Nazis and white supremacy groups, not that I would care if he did. Those anti protesters who showed up were large in number and most were bent on carnage, I guarantee it. For all we know the guy in the car who killed that woman was trying to flee the mob. I saw still photos of some of the people his car hit being tossed into the air. Some were white and tatooed, also young and dressed for battle, street scum masquerading as fighters for human rights. All they had to do was stay home or even go out and just ignore the white supremacy demonstration and nothing would have happened. None of them including the woman who was killed could honestly say they were not in some way responsible for what happened. Fuck them.

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

The women rushed into a burning building and got burned.

The city was taking the statue down. The white nationalist guys were protesting it being taken down but they weren't going to change the fact it was going down.

So the counter protesters who wanted it down and it was coming down were protesting people protesting. Not a good way to start an afternoon.