--
Kishin
Terrific movie for all those reaasons.
Other way around for me. I generally like the music from ballet but the dancing
leaves me absolutely cold.
> I just mostly like the ballerinas.
There's something about the dancer's physique that is appealing, yes.
> But I have a lifelong
> interest in dance. My own personal favorite is soft shoe, which Fred
> Astair was the master of. Have no desire to see Black Swan, though
> Natalie Portman is a big draw.
I can leave or leave Ms Portman. I never saw what all the fuss was about.
--
"The broadband is my minefield.
The command prompt my gun.
The fact is I'm a dickwad
And so very young." - T.I.S.M., Cerebral Knievel
[..]
> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
Wrong again.
For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a 78 on
Metacritic. For another, I'm not a particularly big fan of Powell and
Pressburger's filming of the opera _The Tales of Hoffmann_. You can easily
consult the link to my IMDb voting record that I posted here earlier, and
see for yourself that I only gave it a 5 out of a possible 10.
The latter point is something you could easily have checked yourself
before opening your mouth. Unfortunately... you're not really very smart,
are you?
--
alt.flame Special Forces
"'How could you think of such awful things?' liberal critics always ask. 'How
else could I possibly amuse myself?' I always wonder." -- John Waters
> I really didn't want to see this, as ballet really isn't my thing, but
> Mrs. Kishin wanted to, so there you go. Darren Aronofsky is a great
> director, and he gets an amazing performance out of Natalie Portman, but
> in spite of the horror trappings, it didn't really do it for me.
>
> --
>
> Kishin
>
Great movie, easily my favorite horror film of 2010. And before anyone says
anything, it's a horror film just like the psychological stories of Edgar
Allen Poe were horror. So there.
--
loucyphre
I'm back. I'm old. Not that any of you care.
> Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
>> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
>> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
>
> Wrong again.
>
> For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a
> 78 on
> Metacritic.
What the hell? What kind of reason is for that not to see a movie?!?
Hell, I've been a critic (kinda sorta) myself and I don't think that's a
valid reason!
Don't mind ANS. He's not quite all there. Someone recently asked for
opinions on a movie, and ANS, as usual, quoted ratings from
RottenTomatoes. As if the OP couldn't have looked it up for themselves,
if they'd been interested. He finds it much easier to rely on critics
than to actually watch movies himself.
--
Kishin
> Terrific movie for all those reaasons.
^This
That just proves you are brain-dead and cannot think for yourself.
He proved it quite some time ago.
It's on at our local wannabe arthouse cinema. I'll stump up the members' rate
and see it there. Sounds quite promising from what I've read so far.
[..]
> >> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
> >> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
> >> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
> >
> > Wrong again.
> >
> > For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a
> > 78 on
> > Metacritic.
> What the hell? What kind of reason is for that not to see a movie?!?
It's not like I'm morally obligated to see it.
> Hell, I've been a critic (kinda sorta) myself and I don't think that's a
> valid reason!
I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?
[..]
> >>> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
> >>> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
> >>> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
> >>
> >> Wrong again.
> >>
> >> For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a
> >> 78 on
> >> Metacritic.
> >
> > What the hell? What kind of reason is for that not to see a movie?!?
> > Hell, I've been a critic (kinda sorta) myself and I don't think that's a
> > valid reason!
> Don't mind ANS. He's not quite all there.
FAQ #5.
> Someone recently asked for
> opinions on a movie, and ANS, as usual, quoted ratings from
> RottenTomatoes. As if the OP couldn't have looked it up for themselves,
> if they'd been interested.
There's about a gazillion sources of opinion out there, but, relatively
speaking, only a few good ones.
> He finds it much easier to rely on critics
> than to actually watch movies himself.
You say that like listening to reliable leading indicators is a bad thing.
"Werewolf: The Devil's Hound."
--
Kishin
Because it proves you like being spoon-fed your opinions. YOU ARE
SHEEP.
"reliable leading indicators"? Can you "BAAAAAAAAH" for me?
i tend to find the pole plays a big part in it.
--
regards from bod.
"dont worry yoko, its only a friggin water pist...."
JOHN LENNON 1980
http://www.myspace.com/bodland
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodland
Where are you POKING YOUR POLE, bod?
??
[..]
> > I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
> > score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?
> "Werewolf: The Devil's Hound."
I didn't have to pay actual money for that one, besides what I normally
shell out for my internet connection.
So it's okay to watch crap on a computer, but not on TV? Need I remind you:
"Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_, or_Memento_, or_The Blues
Brothers_, or_The Cook, The Thief, His Wife& Her Lover_, or _A.I.:
Artificial Intelligence_, or_Pink Flamingos_, or...
"Need I go on?"
Double standard much?
--
Kishin
I watched it after seeing it somehow cracked the imdb top 250. Jesus christ it
was boring. The lezzo scene was probably its only redeeming feature.
Fraser
> I watched it after seeing it somehow cracked the imdb top 250. Jesus christ it
> was boring. The lezzo scene was probably its only redeeming feature.
It sounded promising before but I read about the lezzo scene and ... SOLD!
Try and find just the lezzo scene on youtube and you'll save about 2 hours of
your life.
Fraser
I'm determined to give it a go as it's on at the Dendy (equals cheap tickets for
me and the better half) which offers alcohol at very reasonable prices so, if I
don't like it that much, I can always get quietly sloshed as I watch it. I'll
report back with agreement/disagreement/whatever, just because.
Looking forward to it. Many times I have watched a movie that has been
universally panned just because I HAD to experience how bad for myself. Rarely
they just manage to scrape across the line of ok.
Fraser
David liked it, in this case, and Margaret less so. I regard that as generally
a good sign. Four stars from David (given that I like him as a critic, despite
his awful blind spot when it comes to horror) is a significant indicator for me.
Gay bloke likes film about ballet.
HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!
--
#Andy#
"all your glad-handing is going to be wasted effort
as soon as I drive ReVulse and the others permanently
off alt.horror." - Avoid Normal Situations (7th May 2009)
I liked SUSPIRIA also... But neither because it was about ballet, but
because they were good flicks.
You owe me a new keyboard.
Fraser
That's just me agreeing with what you said!
Ah, okay.
[..]
> >>> I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
> >>> score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?
> >
> >> "Werewolf: The Devil's Hound."
> >
> > I didn't have to pay actual money for that one, besides what I normally
> > shell out for my internet connection.
> So it's okay to watch crap on a computer, but not on TV?
Nope. (Gads, you must be running out of straw.)
> Need I remind you:
> "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
> seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_, or_Memento_, or_The Blues
> Brothers_, or_The Cook, The Thief, His Wife& Her Lover_, or _A.I.:
> Artificial Intelligence_, or_Pink Flamingos_, or...
> "Need I go on?"
> Double standard much?
It was horror, and it was free. I couldn't resist it for long.
How's that saying at 12-step groups go? "I am powerless over my
addiction..."
I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
To be fair it was ok for a watch. I might one day do a rewatch of all of them
in sequence but it will need to be a very very rainy day indeed.
Fraser
Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second volume/book.
I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I realised that LotR was
something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't been able to properly read since.
>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
>>> > seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>
>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
>> gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>
>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second volume/book.
>I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I realised that LotR was
>something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't been able to properly read since.
Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
Can't comment on the movies, have only seen bits and pieces.
--
If there's a nuclear winter, at least it'll snow.
> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>
>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided
>>to post the following to Usenet:
>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
>>>> > seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>
>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
>>> gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>
>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>been able to properly read since.
>
> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:06:52 -0500, Lesmond wrote:
>
>> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>>
>>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided
>>>to post the following to Usenet:
>>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
>>>>> > seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>>
>>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
>>>> gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>>
>>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>>been able to properly read since.
>>
>> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
>
>What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.
A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I somehow
got the idea in my head that I needed to reread "Pride and Prejudice" first.
What a fucking mistake. But I'm sucked into it now. Did anyone ever really
think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:16:33 +0000 (UTC), ReVulse wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:06:52 -0500, Lesmond wrote:
>>
>>> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely
>>>>decided to post the following to Usenet:
>>>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not
>>>>>> > spent seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of
>>>>> that gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>>>
>>>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>>>been able to properly read since.
>>>
>>> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
>>
>>What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.
>
> A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I
I've been debating about whether or not to buy that for ages now.
I think you've take the verb 'to debate' to a new low.
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:06:52 -0500, Lesmond wrote:
>
>> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>>
>>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely
>>>decided to post the following to Usenet:
>>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not
>>>>> > spent seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>>
>>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of
>>>> that gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>>
>>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>>been able to properly read since.
>>
>> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
>
> What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.
>
Really, get serious people. We're supposed to be discussing Asian
ghosts, Italian zombies, rotting corpses that walk, and fiendishly
clever serial killers who make all cops look like the Keystone ones.
I lived with mainstream fan-boys that LIKED to believe they were geeks
- so I've seen every shitty minute of them more than once.
Pretty sad day when the Narnia Chronicles have more plot-line and
structure...
Probably ANuS, but that would be challenging reading for him.
I point you to Michael Moorcock's essay "Epic Pooh". Easily findable on the
interwebs. I enjoy him so much more as a literary critic than as a writer of
fiction - one of the best professional trolls ever undertaken.
Then why the fuck is there a post about the dog-turd TRON 2?
After a quick look I think you might as well. It had me laughing from the
first sentence. But it only works if you've read the original, I suspect.
Which is why I'm subjecting myself to this soul numbing torture right now.
Did I ever actually like this book? Fuck...teenagers are stupid.
[..]
> Did anyone ever really
> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
Mrs. Claypool, Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool,
Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool...
>Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>> Did anyone ever really
>> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
>
> Mrs. Claypool, Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool,
>Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool...
And thus sums up chapter 6.
I read it again in my early thirties. It was ok but a bit slow.
Fraser
Only people with vaginas. Just as no woman should ever really understand a
James Bond film.
Fraser
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I quite liked it in a mindless eye candy kind of way. A young Jeff Bridges was
just plain weird.
Fraser
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Discussing with some hardcore geeks at work today I said Meet the Feebles was
Jacksons greatest film. About half agreed with me.
Fraser
That or BRAINDEAD (aka DEAD ALIVE)...
I'd go in to bat for HEAVENLY CREATURES myself. I'm pretty sure that I feel
he's done nothing worthwhile since THE FRIGHTENERS, though. MEET THE FEEBLES is
fantastic, though, and was quite hard to find until comparatively recently.
--
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The
Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often
engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an
emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real
world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
and LAUREL AND HARDY....women fucking hate those two.
--
regards from bod.
"dont worry yoko, its only a friggin water pist...."
JOHN LENNON 1980
http://www.myspace.com/bodland
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodland
I think you're onto something here...But it doesn't explain my mother.
>
>"Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>news:8pkal4...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6...
>>> A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I
>>> somehow
>>> got the idea in my head that I needed to reread "Pride and Prejudice"
>>> first.
>>> What a fucking mistake. But I'm sucked into it now. Did anyone ever
>>> really
>>> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
>>
>> Only people with vaginas. Just as no woman should ever really understand
>> a James Bond film.
>>
>
>and LAUREL AND HARDY....women fucking hate those two.
Laurel and Hardy are all right, but the Three Stooges fuck gophers.
Can we infer from this that you didn't find the gags in the EVIL DEAD trilogy
funny?
>On 2011-01-18, Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:37:44 -0000, bod wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>news:8pkal4...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6...
>>>>> A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I
>>>>> somehow
>>>>> got the idea in my head that I needed to reread "Pride and Prejudice"
>>>>> first.
>>>>> What a fucking mistake. But I'm sucked into it now. Did anyone ever
>>>>> really
>>>>> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
>>>>
>>>> Only people with vaginas. Just as no woman should ever really understand
>>>> a James Bond film.
>>>>
>>>
>>>and LAUREL AND HARDY....women fucking hate those two.
>>
>> Laurel and Hardy are all right, but the Three Stooges fuck gophers.
>
>Can we infer from this that you didn't find the gags in the EVIL DEAD trilogy
>funny?
I loved the first two, but didn't care at all for the third.
Actually, that's not inconsistent with your dislike of the Three Stooges given
that the "Stoogery" became more and more obvious as the ED series progressed.
[..]
> >> Laurel and Hardy are all right, but the Three Stooges fuck gophers.
> >
> >Can we infer from this that you didn't find the gags in the EVIL DEAD trilogy
> >funny?
> I loved the first two, but didn't care at all for the third.
Not mean-spirited enough for you?
--
alt.flame Special Forces
"Question authority, but stop at stop signs." -- Eugenie C. Scott
It was only like being hit by car not a train like typical Aronofisky.
I can just imagine people thinking Natale Portman is nominated for an
Oscar. "Oh it is about Ballet, we like Ballet lets go see it".
Those people are going home in a state of shock.
Anyway we are going to be seeing more Aronofisky and more Clint Mansell,
this is a good thing for lovers of the fringe.
I can't help but think its going to be a load of pretentious fucking wank
like that minge one the other year.
Minge one? The Fountain?
Antichrist
I never heard of it. The trailer looked promising.
Was it crap?
I've noticed that movies aren't real like reality.
You'd be correct.
Fraser
Basically, it's like "Jacob's Ladder" all over again, but set in a ballet,
not Vietnam.
--
Best Wishes
Simon (Dark Angel)
http://www.realmofhorror.co.uk
--
PTR.