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Kishin

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Jan 1, 2011, 9:55:09 PM1/1/11
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I really didn't want to see this, as ballet really isn't my thing, but
Mrs. Kishin wanted to, so there you go. Darren Aronofsky is a great
director, and he gets an amazing performance out of Natalie Portman, but
in spite of the horror trappings, it didn't really do it for me. Part of
that is just that the dancing bits bored me, and another part is that
since ballet doesn't interest me, the struggles to do it really well
don't much interest me, either. But there's something here for almost
everyone in alt.horror. ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
because it makes them seem sophisticated. Andy may dig the fucked up
family dynamics between Portman and Barbara Hershey, though there is no
incest involved. Bonestructure will like the fact that Portman's tits
aren't much bigger than they were when she was in "Leon." The DeadRodent
will probably enjoy the Cronenbergian body horror. Bod will like the
lezbo scene between Portman and Mila Kunislingus, though he will
complain that it wasn't X-rated. Gareth will probably like the club
scene, with it's flashing colored lights and pulsing dance music
(though, sadly, I don't think it was Scooter). Finally, Blackwingbear
will appreciate that the writers were smoking some really good shit when
they wrote this thing. Mrs. Kishin, though she enjoyed the dancing, only
thought it was okay.

--

Kishin

Blackwingbear

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Jan 2, 2011, 4:08:34 AM1/2/11
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Darren Aronofsky always smokes the good shit! I swear it is in his
contract that he only gets Kush nuggets on the set!

deadrodentyping

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Jan 2, 2011, 11:36:37 AM1/2/11
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Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote in
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Terrific movie for all those reaasons.

bonestructure

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Jan 2, 2011, 12:09:26 PM1/2/11
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I enjoy ballet actually, Just don't care much for the music it's
performed to. I just mostly like the ballerinas. But I have a lifelong
interest in dance. My own personal favorite is soft shoe, which Fred
Astair was the master of. Have no desire to see Black Swan, though
Natalie Portman is a big draw.

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Jan 2, 2011, 4:18:24 PM1/2/11
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On 2011-01-02, bonestructure <bonest...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:

> I enjoy ballet actually, Just don't care much for the music it's
> performed to.

Other way around for me. I generally like the music from ballet but the dancing
leaves me absolutely cold.

> I just mostly like the ballerinas.

There's something about the dancer's physique that is appealing, yes.

> But I have a lifelong
> interest in dance. My own personal favorite is soft shoe, which Fred
> Astair was the master of. Have no desire to see Black Swan, though
> Natalie Portman is a big draw.

I can leave or leave Ms Portman. I never saw what all the fuss was about.

--
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The command prompt my gun.
The fact is I'm a dickwad
And so very young." - T.I.S.M., Cerebral Knievel

Avoid normal situations.

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Jan 2, 2011, 7:35:26 PM1/2/11
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Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:

[..]

> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
> because it makes them seem sophisticated.

Wrong again.

For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a 78 on
Metacritic. For another, I'm not a particularly big fan of Powell and
Pressburger's filming of the opera _The Tales of Hoffmann_. You can easily
consult the link to my IMDb voting record that I posted here earlier, and
see for yourself that I only gave it a 5 out of a possible 10.

The latter point is something you could easily have checked yourself
before opening your mouth. Unfortunately... you're not really very smart,
are you?

--
alt.flame Special Forces
"'How could you think of such awful things?' liberal critics always ask. 'How
else could I possibly amuse myself?' I always wonder." -- John Waters

loucyphre

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Jan 2, 2011, 9:15:50 PM1/2/11
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Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote in news:ifopef$qpf$1...@news.eternal-
september.org:

> I really didn't want to see this, as ballet really isn't my thing, but

> Mrs. Kishin wanted to, so there you go. Darren Aronofsky is a great
> director, and he gets an amazing performance out of Natalie Portman, but
> in spite of the horror trappings, it didn't really do it for me.
>

> --
>
> Kishin
>

Great movie, easily my favorite horror film of 2010. And before anyone says
anything, it's a horror film just like the psychological stories of Edgar
Allen Poe were horror. So there.

--
loucyphre

I'm back. I'm old. Not that any of you care.

loucyphre

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Jan 2, 2011, 9:17:20 PM1/2/11
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"Avoid normal situations."
<byend.removethis...@eskimo.com> wrote in
news:ifr5k...@enews5.newsguy.com:

> Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
>> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
>> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
>
> Wrong again.
>
> For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a
> 78 on
> Metacritic.

What the hell? What kind of reason is for that not to see a movie?!?
Hell, I've been a critic (kinda sorta) myself and I don't think that's a
valid reason!

Kishin

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Jan 2, 2011, 10:22:11 PM1/2/11
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Don't mind ANS. He's not quite all there. Someone recently asked for
opinions on a movie, and ANS, as usual, quoted ratings from
RottenTomatoes. As if the OP couldn't have looked it up for themselves,
if they'd been interested. He finds it much easier to rely on critics
than to actually watch movies himself.

--

Kishin

Kimberly

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Jan 2, 2011, 10:30:23 PM1/2/11
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On Jan 2, 8:36 am, deadrodentyping <bill_cosby_raped...@rape.com>
wrote:

> Terrific movie for all those reaasons.

^This

Blackwingbear

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Jan 3, 2011, 1:29:19 AM1/3/11
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On Jan 2, 7:35 pm, "Avoid normal situations."

<byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>   For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a 78 on
> Metacritic.

That just proves you are brain-dead and cannot think for yourself.

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Jan 3, 2011, 5:00:33 AM1/3/11
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On 2011-01-03, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
> On Jan 2, 7:35?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>> ? For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a 78 on

>> Metacritic.
>
> That just proves you are brain-dead and cannot think for yourself.

He proved it quite some time ago.

It's on at our local wannabe arthouse cinema. I'll stump up the members' rate
and see it there. Sounds quite promising from what I've read so far.

Avoid normal situations.

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Jan 3, 2011, 10:18:51 AM1/3/11
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loucyphre <loucyphre2AS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Avoid normal situations."
> <byend.removethis...@eskimo.com> wrote in
> news:ifr5k...@enews5.newsguy.com:
> > Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:

[..]

> >> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
> >> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
> >> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
> >
> > Wrong again.
> >
> > For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a
> > 78 on
> > Metacritic.

> What the hell? What kind of reason is for that not to see a movie?!?

It's not like I'm morally obligated to see it.

> Hell, I've been a critic (kinda sorta) myself and I don't think that's a
> valid reason!

I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?

Avoid normal situations.

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Jan 3, 2011, 10:21:58 AM1/3/11
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Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
> loucyphre wrote:
> > "Avoid normal situations."
> > <byend.removethis...@eskimo.com> wrote in
> > news:ifr5k...@enews5.newsguy.com:
> >> Kishin<no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:

[..]

> >>> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
> >>> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
> >>> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
> >>
> >> Wrong again.
> >>
> >> For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a
> >> 78 on
> >> Metacritic.
> >
> > What the hell? What kind of reason is for that not to see a movie?!?
> > Hell, I've been a critic (kinda sorta) myself and I don't think that's a
> > valid reason!

> Don't mind ANS. He's not quite all there.

FAQ #5.

> Someone recently asked for
> opinions on a movie, and ANS, as usual, quoted ratings from
> RottenTomatoes. As if the OP couldn't have looked it up for themselves,
> if they'd been interested.

There's about a gazillion sources of opinion out there, but, relatively
speaking, only a few good ones.

> He finds it much easier to rely on critics
> than to actually watch movies himself.

You say that like listening to reliable leading indicators is a bad thing.

Kishin

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Jan 3, 2011, 12:14:43 PM1/3/11
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Avoid normal situations. wrote:
> loucyphre<loucyphre2AS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Avoid normal situations."
>> <byend.removethis...@eskimo.com> wrote in
>> news:ifr5k...@enews5.newsguy.com:
>>> Kishin<no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>>>> ANS will no doubt love it, because pretentious
>>>> twats like him always claim to enjoy things like ballet and opera
>>>> because it makes them seem sophisticated.
>>>
>>> Wrong again.
>>>
>>> For one thing, I'm not planning to see it, 'cause it only scored a
>>> 78 on
>>> Metacritic.
>
>> What the hell? What kind of reason is for that not to see a movie?!?
>
> It's not like I'm morally obligated to see it.
>
>> Hell, I've been a critic (kinda sorta) myself and I don't think that's a
>> valid reason!
>
> I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
> score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?

"Werewolf: The Devil's Hound."

--

Kishin

Blackwingbear

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Jan 3, 2011, 3:38:51 PM1/3/11
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On Jan 3, 10:18 am, "Avoid normal situations."

<byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>   I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
> score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?

Because it proves you like being spoon-fed your opinions. YOU ARE
SHEEP.

Blackwingbear

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On Jan 3, 10:21 am, "Avoid normal situations."

<byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>   You say that like listening to reliable leading indicators is a bad thing.

"reliable leading indicators"? Can you "BAAAAAAAAH" for me?

bod

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"Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <dia...@thisbitisnotreal.freakishandunnatural.net> wrote
in message news:4d20eb9f$0$29886$c3e8da3$5496...@news.astraweb.com...

> On 2011-01-02, bonestructure <bonest...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to
> post the following to Usenet:
>> I enjoy ballet actually, Just don't care much for the music it's
>> performed to.
>
> Other way around for me. I generally like the music from ballet but the
> dancing
> leaves me absolutely cold.
>
>> I just mostly like the ballerinas.
>
> There's something about the dancer's physique that is appealing, yes.
>

i tend to find the pole plays a big part in it.


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Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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On 2011-01-03, bod <fuc...@bodland.com> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:

>
> "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <dia...@thisbitisnotreal.freakishandunnatural.net> wrote
> in message news:4d20eb9f$0$29886$c3e8da3$5496...@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 2011-01-02, bonestructure <bonest...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to
>> post the following to Usenet:
>>> I enjoy ballet actually, Just don't care much for the music it's
>>> performed to.
>>
>> Other way around for me. I generally like the music from ballet but the
>> dancing
>> leaves me absolutely cold.
>>
>>> I just mostly like the ballerinas.
>>
>> There's something about the dancer's physique that is appealing, yes.
>>
>
> i tend to find the pole plays a big part in it.

Where are you POKING YOUR POLE, bod?

deadrodentyping

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Kimberly <msg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:efb0850a-14d1-47ff-a5f2-
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??

Avoid normal situations.

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Jan 4, 2011, 11:52:25 AM1/4/11
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Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
> Avoid normal situations. wrote:

[..]

> > I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
> > score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?

> "Werewolf: The Devil's Hound."

I didn't have to pay actual money for that one, besides what I normally
shell out for my internet connection.

Kishin

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Jan 4, 2011, 12:10:58 PM1/4/11
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Avoid normal situations. wrote:
> Kishin<no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
>> Avoid normal situations. wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>>> I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
>>> score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?
>
>> "Werewolf: The Devil's Hound."
>
> I didn't have to pay actual money for that one, besides what I normally
> shell out for my internet connection.

So it's okay to watch crap on a computer, but not on TV? Need I remind you:

"Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_, or_Memento_, or_The Blues
Brothers_, or_The Cook, The Thief, His Wife& Her Lover_, or _A.I.:
Artificial Intelligence_, or_Pink Flamingos_, or...

"Need I go on?"

Double standard much?

--

Kishin

Fraser Johnston

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Jan 4, 2011, 9:07:31 PM1/4/11
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"Kishin" <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote in message
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I watched it after seeing it somehow cracked the imdb top 250. Jesus christ it
was boring. The lezzo scene was probably its only redeeming feature.

Fraser


Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Jan 4, 2011, 10:37:19 PM1/4/11
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On 2011-01-05, Fraser Johnston <ftr...@iinet.net.au> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:

> I watched it after seeing it somehow cracked the imdb top 250. Jesus christ it
> was boring. The lezzo scene was probably its only redeeming feature.

It sounded promising before but I read about the lezzo scene and ... SOLD!

Fraser Johnston

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Jan 4, 2011, 11:11:38 PM1/4/11
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message news:4d23e76f$0$29873$c3e8da3$5496...@news.astraweb.com...

> On 2011-01-05, Fraser Johnston <ftr...@iinet.net.au> unwisely decided to post
> the following to Usenet:
>
>> I watched it after seeing it somehow cracked the imdb top 250. Jesus christ
>> it
>> was boring. The lezzo scene was probably its only redeeming feature.
>
> It sounded promising before but I read about the lezzo scene and ... SOLD!

Try and find just the lezzo scene on youtube and you'll save about 2 hours of
your life.

Fraser


Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Jan 4, 2011, 11:50:41 PM1/4/11
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On 2011-01-05, Fraser Johnston <ftr...@iinet.net.au> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
>
> "Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <dia...@thisbitisnotreal.freakishandunnatural.net> wrote in
> message news:4d23e76f$0$29873$c3e8da3$5496...@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 2011-01-05, Fraser Johnston <ftr...@iinet.net.au> unwisely decided to post
>> the following to Usenet:
>>
>>> I watched it after seeing it somehow cracked the imdb top 250. Jesus christ
>>> it
>>> was boring. The lezzo scene was probably its only redeeming feature.
>>
>> It sounded promising before but I read about the lezzo scene and ... SOLD!
>
> Try and find just the lezzo scene on youtube and you'll save about 2 hours of
> your life.

I'm determined to give it a go as it's on at the Dendy (equals cheap tickets for
me and the better half) which offers alcohol at very reasonable prices so, if I
don't like it that much, I can always get quietly sloshed as I watch it. I'll
report back with agreement/disagreement/whatever, just because.

Fraser Johnston

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message news:4d23f8a1$0$11103$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...

> I'm determined to give it a go as it's on at the Dendy (equals cheap tickets
> for
> me and the better half) which offers alcohol at very reasonable prices so, if
> I
> don't like it that much, I can always get quietly sloshed as I watch it.
> I'll
> report back with agreement/disagreement/whatever, just because.

Looking forward to it. Many times I have watched a movie that has been
universally panned just because I HAD to experience how bad for myself. Rarely
they just manage to scrape across the line of ok.

Fraser


Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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On 2011-01-05, Fraser Johnston <ftr...@iinet.net.au> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
>

David liked it, in this case, and Margaret less so. I regard that as generally
a good sign. Four stars from David (given that I like him as a critic, despite
his awful blind spot when it comes to horror) is a significant indicator for me.

Blackwingbear

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JUST had a chance to watch this tonight.... And fell in-love with it!
It was wonderful! The way y'all were talking I thought it would be a
mediocre dog-turd, but instead I took a real shine to it! Wonderful
performances all around....

ReVulse

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Jan 7, 2011, 8:49:11 AM1/7/11
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Gay bloke likes film about ballet.

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

--
#Andy#

"all your glad-handing is going to be wasted effort
as soon as I drive ReVulse and the others permanently
off alt.horror." - Avoid Normal Situations (7th May 2009)

Blackwingbear

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On Jan 7, 8:49 am, ReVulse <ReVu...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

> Gay bloke likes film about ballet.
>
> HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

I liked SUSPIRIA also... But neither because it was about ballet, but
because they were good flicks.

Fraser Johnston

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"ReVulse" <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ig75km$krg$3...@news.eternal-september.org...

> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:03:50 -0800, Blackwingbear wrote:
>
>> JUST had a chance to watch this tonight.... And fell in-love with it! It
>> was wonderful! The way y'all were talking I thought it would be a
>> mediocre dog-turd, but instead I took a real shine to it! Wonderful
>> performances all around....
>
> Gay bloke likes film about ballet.
>
> HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

You owe me a new keyboard.

Fraser


Kimberly

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Jan 11, 2011, 12:53:37 AM1/11/11
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On Jan 4, 8:49 am, deadrodentyping <bill_cosby_raped...@rape.com>
wrote:
> Kimberly <msgh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:efb0850a-14d1-47ff-a5f2-
> fea10c6ec...@f21g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

>
> > On Jan 2, 8:36 am, deadrodentyping <bill_cosby_raped...@rape.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Terrific movie for all those reaasons.
>
> > ^This
>
> ??

That's just me agreeing with what you said!

deadrodentyping

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Kimberly <msg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:30ce7e7d-25a4-4c72-a819-
b854ae...@p8g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:

Ah, okay.

Avoid normal situations.

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Kishin <no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
> Avoid normal situations. wrote:
> > Kishin<no...@yobiz.ness> wrote:
> >> Avoid normal situations. wrote:

[..]

> >>> I've scored well lately by sticking only to movies that have a Metacritic
> >>> score of 80 or higher. Why vary from a winning formula?
> >
> >> "Werewolf: The Devil's Hound."
> >
> > I didn't have to pay actual money for that one, besides what I normally
> > shell out for my internet connection.

> So it's okay to watch crap on a computer, but not on TV?

Nope. (Gads, you must be running out of straw.)

> Need I remind you:

> "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
> seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_, or_Memento_, or_The Blues
> Brothers_, or_The Cook, The Thief, His Wife& Her Lover_, or _A.I.:
> Artificial Intelligence_, or_Pink Flamingos_, or...

> "Need I go on?"

> Double standard much?

It was horror, and it was free. I couldn't resist it for long.

How's that saying at 12-step groups go? "I am powerless over my
addiction..."

Blackwingbear

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On Jan 12, 11:59 pm, "Avoid normal situations."

<byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
> > seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_

I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.

Fraser Johnston

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"Blackwingbear" <blackw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

To be fair it was ok for a watch. I might one day do a rewatch of all of them
in sequence but it will need to be a very very rainy day indeed.

Fraser


Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."

Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second volume/book.
I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I realised that LotR was
something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't been able to properly read since.

Lesmond

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On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:

>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
>>> > seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>
>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
>> gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>
>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second volume/book.
>I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I realised that LotR was
>something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't been able to properly read since.

Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?

Can't comment on the movies, have only seen bits and pieces.

--
If there's a nuclear winter, at least it'll snow.

ReVulse

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Jan 13, 2011, 8:16:33 AM1/13/11
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:06:52 -0500, Lesmond wrote:

> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>
>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided
>>to post the following to Usenet:
>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
>>>> > seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>
>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
>>> gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>
>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>been able to properly read since.
>
> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?

What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.

Lesmond

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:16:33 +0000 (UTC), ReVulse wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:06:52 -0500, Lesmond wrote:
>
>> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>>
>>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided
>>>to post the following to Usenet:
>>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not spent
>>>>> > seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>>
>>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of that
>>>> gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>>
>>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>>been able to properly read since.
>>
>> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
>
>What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.

A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I somehow
got the idea in my head that I needed to reread "Pride and Prejudice" first.
What a fucking mistake. But I'm sucked into it now. Did anyone ever really
think that Jane Austen was a good writer?

The White Lady

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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in
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> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:16:33 +0000 (UTC), ReVulse wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:06:52 -0500, Lesmond wrote:
>>
>>> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely
>>>>decided to post the following to Usenet:
>>>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not
>>>>>> > spent seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of
>>>>> that gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>>>
>>>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>>>been able to properly read since.
>>>
>>> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
>>
>>What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.
>
> A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I


I've been debating about whether or not to buy that for ages now.

deadrodentyping

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The White Lady <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
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I think you've take the verb 'to debate' to a new low.

deadrodentyping

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ReVulse <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
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> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:06:52 -0500, Lesmond wrote:
>
>> On 13 Jan 2011 09:29:56 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:
>>
>>>On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely
>>>decided to post the following to Usenet:
>>>> On Jan 12, 11:59?pm, "Avoid normal situations."
>>>><byend.removethisbityousillyper...@eskimo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > "Every minute you spend watching a cartoon is one minute not
>>>>> > spent seeing Peter Jackson's_Lord of the Rings_
>>>>
>>>> I'll never understand desperate fan-boys' adoration & worship of
>>>> that gilded dog-turd. It was complete shit.
>>>
>>>Liked the first one. The second film was as messy as the second
>>>volume/book. I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I
>>>realised that LotR was something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't
>>>been able to properly read since.
>>
>> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?
>
> What do you expect? It's about elves and fucking wizards.
>

Really, get serious people. We're supposed to be discussing Asian
ghosts, Italian zombies, rotting corpses that walk, and fiendishly
clever serial killers who make all cops look like the Keystone ones.

Blackwingbear

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On Jan 13, 2:03 am, "Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> To be fair it was ok for a watch.  I might one day do a rewatch of all of them
> in sequence but it will need to be a very very rainy day indeed.

I lived with mainstream fan-boys that LIKED to believe they were geeks
- so I've seen every shitty minute of them more than once.

Blackwingbear

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On Jan 13, 4:29 am, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"

<dia...@thisbitisnotreal.freakishandunnatural.net> wrote:
> Liked the first one.  The second film was as messy as the second volume/book.
> I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I realised that LotR was
> something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't been able to properly read since.

Pretty sad day when the Narnia Chronicles have more plot-line and
structure...

Blackwingbear

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On Jan 13, 8:06 am, "Lesmond" <lesm...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Has *anyone* been able to read Tolkein since they were a kid?

Probably ANuS, but that would be challenging reading for him.

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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On 2011-01-13, Blackwingbear <blackw...@gmail.com> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
> On Jan 13, 4:29?am, "Mr Q. Z. Diablo"
><dia...@thisbitisnotreal.freakishandunnatural.net> wrote:
>> Liked the first one. ?The second film was as messy as the second volume/book.

>> I hoped that RotK would pull it all together but then I realised that LotR was
>> something that I enjoyed as a kid and haven't been able to properly read since.
>
> Pretty sad day when the Narnia Chronicles have more plot-line and
> structure...

I point you to Michael Moorcock's essay "Epic Pooh". Easily findable on the
interwebs. I enjoy him so much more as a literary critic than as a writer of
fiction - one of the best professional trolls ever undertaken.

Blackwingbear

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On Jan 13, 12:01 pm, deadrodentyping <bill_cosby_raped...@rape.com>
wrote:

> Really, get serious people.  We're supposed to be discussing Asian
> ghosts, Italian zombies, rotting corpses that walk, and fiendishly
> clever serial killers who make all cops look like the Keystone ones.

Then why the fuck is there a post about the dog-turd TRON 2?


Lesmond

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After a quick look I think you might as well. It had me laughing from the
first sentence. But it only works if you've read the original, I suspect.

Which is why I'm subjecting myself to this soul numbing torture right now.
Did I ever actually like this book? Fuck...teenagers are stupid.

Avoid normal situations.

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Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> wrote:

[..]

> Did anyone ever really
> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?

Mrs. Claypool, Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool,
Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool...

Lesmond

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On 14 Jan 2011 06:44:15 GMT, Avoid normal situations. wrote:

>Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>> Did anyone ever really
>> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
>
> Mrs. Claypool, Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool,
>Mr. Gottlieb. Mr. Gottlieb, Mrs. Claypool. Mrs. Claypool...

And thus sums up chapter 6.

Fraser Johnston

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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I read it again in my early thirties. It was ok but a bit slow.

Fraser


Fraser Johnston

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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I somehow
> got the idea in my head that I needed to reread "Pride and Prejudice" first.
> What a fucking mistake. But I'm sucked into it now. Did anyone ever really
> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?

Only people with vaginas. Just as no woman should ever really understand a
James Bond film.

Fraser


Fraser Johnston

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"Blackwingbear" <blackw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I quite liked it in a mindless eye candy kind of way. A young Jeff Bridges was
just plain weird.

Fraser

Fraser Johnston

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"Blackwingbear" <blackw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Discussing with some hardcore geeks at work today I said Meet the Feebles was
Jacksons greatest film. About half agreed with me.

Fraser


Blackwingbear

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On Jan 17, 9:10 pm, "Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Discussing with some hardcore geeks at work today I said Meet the Feebles was
> Jacksons greatest film.  About half agreed with me.

That or BRAINDEAD (aka DEAD ALIVE)...

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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On 2011-01-18, Fraser Johnston <ftr...@iinet.net.au> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:

I'd go in to bat for HEAVENLY CREATURES myself. I'm pretty sure that I feel
he's done nothing worthwhile since THE FRIGHTENERS, though. MEET THE FEEBLES is
fantastic, though, and was quite hard to find until comparatively recently.

--
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Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often
engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an
emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real
world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

bod

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and LAUREL AND HARDY....women fucking hate those two.


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Lesmond

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I think you're onto something here...But it doesn't explain my mother.

Lesmond

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:37:44 -0000, bod wrote:

>
>"Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>news:8pkal4...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6...
>>> A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I
>>> somehow
>>> got the idea in my head that I needed to reread "Pride and Prejudice"
>>> first.
>>> What a fucking mistake. But I'm sucked into it now. Did anyone ever
>>> really
>>> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
>>
>> Only people with vaginas. Just as no woman should ever really understand
>> a James Bond film.
>>
>
>and LAUREL AND HARDY....women fucking hate those two.

Laurel and Hardy are all right, but the Three Stooges fuck gophers.

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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On 2011-01-18, Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:

Can we infer from this that you didn't find the gags in the EVIL DEAD trilogy
funny?

Lesmond

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On 18 Jan 2011 18:54:32 GMT, Mr Q. Z. Diablo wrote:

>On 2011-01-18, Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:37:44 -0000, bod wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Fraser Johnston" <ftr...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>news:8pkal4...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:yrfzbaqirevmbaar...@192.168.0.6...
>>>>> A friend got me "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" for Christmas. I
>>>>> somehow
>>>>> got the idea in my head that I needed to reread "Pride and Prejudice"
>>>>> first.
>>>>> What a fucking mistake. But I'm sucked into it now. Did anyone ever
>>>>> really
>>>>> think that Jane Austen was a good writer?
>>>>
>>>> Only people with vaginas. Just as no woman should ever really understand
>>>> a James Bond film.
>>>>
>>>
>>>and LAUREL AND HARDY....women fucking hate those two.
>>
>> Laurel and Hardy are all right, but the Three Stooges fuck gophers.
>
>Can we infer from this that you didn't find the gags in the EVIL DEAD trilogy
>funny?

I loved the first two, but didn't care at all for the third.

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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Actually, that's not inconsistent with your dislike of the Three Stooges given
that the "Stoogery" became more and more obvious as the ED series progressed.

Avoid normal situations.

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Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> wrote:

[..]

> >> Laurel and Hardy are all right, but the Three Stooges fuck gophers.
> >
> >Can we infer from this that you didn't find the gags in the EVIL DEAD trilogy
> >funny?

> I loved the first two, but didn't care at all for the third.

Not mean-spirited enough for you?

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Avid Fan

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Jan 23, 2011, 12:14:36 AM1/23/11
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I saw this a couple of days ago.

It was only like being hit by car not a train like typical Aronofisky.

I can just imagine people thinking Natale Portman is nominated for an
Oscar. "Oh it is about Ballet, we like Ballet lets go see it".

Those people are going home in a state of shock.

Anyway we are going to be seeing more Aronofisky and more Clint Mansell,
this is a good thing for lovers of the fringe.

The White Lady

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Avid Fan <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:0PO_o.8563$gM3.1510
@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:

I can't help but think its going to be a load of pretentious fucking wank
like that minge one the other year.

Avid Fan

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Minge one? The Fountain?

The White Lady

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Avid Fan <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
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Antichrist

Avid Fan

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On 23/01/11 19:50, The White Lady wrote:
> Avid Fan<m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:SNR_o.8579$gM3....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
>> On 23/01/11 19:13, The White Lady wrote:
>>> Avid Fan<m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:0PO_o.8563$gM3.1510
>>> @viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>>>
>>>> I saw this a couple of days ago.
>>>>
>>>> It was only like being hit by car not a train like typical
>>>> Aronofisky.
>>>>
>>>> I can just imagine people thinking Natale Portman is nominated for
>>>> an Oscar. "Oh it is about Ballet, we like Ballet lets go see it".
>>>>
>>>> Those people are going home in a state of shock.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway we are going to be seeing more Aronofisky and more Clint
>>>> Mansell,
>>>> this is a good thing for lovers of the fringe.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can't help but think its going to be a load of pretentious fucking
>>> wank like that minge one the other year.
>>
>> Minge one? The Fountain?
>
>
>
> Antichrist

I never heard of it. The trailer looked promising.

Was it crap?

deadrodentyping

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Jan 23, 2011, 3:46:03 PM1/23/11
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The White Lady <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
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I've noticed that movies aren't real like reality.

Fraser Johnston

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"The White Lady" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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You'd be correct.

Fraser


Simon (Dark Angel)

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Not exactly a horror. more of a dark thriller.

Basically, it's like "Jacob's Ladder" all over again, but set in a ballet,
not Vietnam.


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ptr

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Jan 25, 2011, 4:07:04 PM1/25/11
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Am 25.01.2011 20:55, schrieb Simon (Dark Angel):
> Not exactly a horror. more of a dark thriller.
>
> Basically, it's like "Jacob's Ladder" all over again, but set in a
> ballet, not Vietnam.
>
>
weeeeeell... not really. you think so?
more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBWf54RvsI

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PTR.

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