Re: OT: Guns in America

[Mr Macaw]

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:30:28 -0000, SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote:

> On 3/11/2016 1:38 PM, Bod wrote:
>> On 11/03/2016 19:31, Bod wrote:
>>> On 11/03/2016 19:27, SeaNymph wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/2016 1:13 PM, Bod wrote:
>>>>> On 11/03/2016 18:24, SeaNymph wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/11/2016 8:53 AM, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/03/2016 13:39, SeaNymph wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/11/2016 3:48 AM, Bod wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/03/2016 22:09, Oren wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:07:55 -0600, SeaNymph
>>>>>>>>>> <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What's it to you, seriously? You don't live here, you just
>>>>>>>>>>> rag on
>>>>>>>>>>> things you see to not truly understand. Why are you so afraid of
>>>>>>>>>>> guns?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. These two clowns come here and call Americans stupid,
>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>> innuendos, off the cuff comments and act SO superior in their
>>>>>>>>>> intellect. When it comes to actual guns facts, they can't or won't
>>>>>>>>>> debate the facts. They should worry about their own backyard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2011:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://wp.gunfacts.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Mass-Shooting-vs-Disease.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Both are hoplophobes: A person who is afflicted with an irrational
>>>>>>>>>> fear of firearms. The gun cooties scare them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't be silly, why would we fear guns. There are over 2 million
>>>>>>>>> registered gun owners in the UK, but the difference is that we
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> feel the need to carry them around with us.
>>>>>>>>> I owned a shotgun years ago.
>>>>>>>>> You seem to hold a lot of disinformation about guns in the UK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh? Yet you don't think your broad, general, absolutely
>>>>>>>> unsupportable
>>>>>>>> statements about why people own guns, or what they do with them,
>>>>>>>> are a
>>>>>>>> bit off the mark?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not everyone who owns a gun carries it around with them. I ran
>>>>>>>> across
>>>>>>>> ignorant people like that when I worked for Exxon. These guys
>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>> go into a bar because they believed they'd get shot.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> I'm talking about people who feel the need to carry a gun for
>>>>>>> protection, not gun ownership per-se. Nothing wrong with owning a gun
>>>>>>> for sport/target shooting. 2 million do that in the UK, but of course
>>>>>>> the conditions of ownership here is very stringent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many people have good reason to carry a gun for protection. That is
>>>>>> simply a fact.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I'll take your word. I live in a land without guns so it's hard to
>>>>> comprehend your life over there.
>>>>> Maybe if I lived there a few years I might get to understand what you
>>>>> mean.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I understand your inability to grasp how people live here, if you don't
>>>> live here. By that same token, since you do not live here and are
>>>> unfamiliar with much of what goes on, it makes no sense to me that you
>>>> would so negatively discuss people who do carry guns. I have a right to
>>>> keep and bears arms. I exercise that right if I feel like it. I see
>>>> nothing wrong with it.
>>>>
>>>> Again, 2 different backgrounds doesn't mean that one is right, or better
>>>> than the other. A bit of an open mind is helpful. Frankly, I can't
>>>> understand the way you live over there.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Understood.
>>>
>> Just to add to that..... erm! how can I say this without offending
>> Americans.... over here anyone who has a gun on them is classed as a
>> coward. That's not to say you lot are, but that's the view here.
>> I'm slowly getting your drift though.
>> That's our psyche.
>> Please don't take offence to that comment, I'm just stating a fact :-)
>>
> Why is that? Seems a strange thing to think. Maybe it makes sense
> there, but I don't think it would here.

Because you need a gun to protect yourself. Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.

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[SeaNymph]

Are you naturally obtuse and dense or do you have to work at it?

I don't need a gun. I want a gun, so I have one. I didn't buy it for
protection, I bought it for target shooting. Do you understand the
difference between want and need?

I'm not a guy and don't get involved in fist fights.

Get it yet?

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:

>Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.

Tip, don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvonn Martin learned that.

[Oren]

You can't talk to these foreigners. They haven't a clue.

[Aardvark]

Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> Wrote in message:

You two are nothing but a pair of angry old men railing against
the tide of civilisational progress and desperately trying to
push it back.

Like a present day hybrid of King Canute and Statler and Waldorf
from The Muppet Show.
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[gfre...@aol.com]

I just can't comprehend the typical gang banger in the US. Throwing
them in prison just reunites them with their missing gang members and
in most cases, it does not even stop them from continuing the
operation of their criminal enterprise.
These are people who are 3d or maybe even 4th generation criminals.
Momma is in jail or strung out on crack. Daddy is dead or in jail and
they expect to be dead or in jail by the time they are 25.

[Mr Macaw]

There are no guns in the UK, so fists are just fine.

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[Mr Macaw]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:10:25 -0000, <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 01:01:38 +0000 (GMT+00:00), Aardvark
> <aard...@aardvark.UK.pn> wrote:
>
>> Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> Wrote in message:
>>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:33:15 -0400, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.
>>>>
>>>> Tip, don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvonn Martin learned that.
>>>
>>> You can't talk to these foreigners. They haven't a clue.
>>>
>>
>> You two are nothing but a pair of angry old men railing against
>> the tide of civilisational progress and desperately trying to
>> push it back.
>>
>> Like a present day hybrid of King Canute and Statler and Waldorf
>> from The Muppet Show.
>
> I just can't comprehend the typical gang banger in the US. Throwing
> them in prison just reunites them with their missing gang members and
> in most cases, it does not even stop them from continuing the
> operation of their criminal enterprise.

Did you really mean "gang banger"? ROTFPMSL! I don't think you know what that means.

> These are people who are 3d or maybe even 4th generation criminals.
> Momma is in jail or strung out on crack. Daddy is dead or in jail and
> they expect to be dead or in jail by the time they are 25.

That's because of the lower average intelligence of USA folk. Most of your criminals are black.

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[Mr Macaw]

I'm not getting at the people who shoot targets, I'm getting at the people who carry one like we'd carry a mobile phone. The number of guns in the US is more than 1 per head of population.

> I'm not a guy and don't get involved in fist fights.
>
> Get it yet?

Ah, a woman, that explains the low intelligence.

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[SeaNymph]

My thinking that you are a misogynist was clearly correct, as was my
thinking that you're an idiot.

[SeaNymph]

On 3/23/2016 3:03 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:33:15 -0000, <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.
>>
>> Tip, don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvonn Martin learned that.
>
> There are no guns in the UK, so fists are just fine.
>

Another overly general, false statement.

[burfordTjustice]

On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:03:42 -0000
"Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:33:15 -0000, <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.
> >
> > Tip, don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvonn Martin learned that.
>
> There are no guns in the UK, so fists are just fine.
>

Liar!
Picture of UK jihadist with gun...

Seems the Jihadists have no trouble getting guns.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-terror-plot-foiled-drive-7617894

jihadist apologists to defend.

[Aardvark]

The terms are interchangeable, SN.

[Aardvark]

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:48:35 -0400, burfordTjustice wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:03:42 -0000 "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:33:15 -0000, <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.
>> >
>> > Tip, don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvonn Martin learned that.
>>
>> There are no guns in the UK, so fists are just fine.
>>
>>
> Liar!
> Picture of UK jihadist with gun...

You have evidence that it's a *real* gun, Burson-Marsteller shill?

>
> Seems the Jihadists have no trouble getting guns.
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-terror-plot-foiled-drive-7617894
>

Not when its part of an investigation and sting by the UK security forces,
it seems, you stupid cunt.

> jihadist apologists to defend.

Where?

[Uncle Monster]

I'm no longer able to protect myself with my fists but I can pull a trigger and perform a double tap to an attacker's mouth. The reason to aim for the mouth is because the rounds will sever the brain stem and drop an attacker in his tracks plus prevent any weapons fire on his part. ^_^

http://www.wikihow.com/Do-a-Double-Tap-%28Handgun%29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHzElqfzMtc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbg2s2bfjhw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwB6jg0fHbk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55zawUndP50

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/daniel-zimmerman/self-defense-tip-get-x/

[8~{} Uncle Tap Monster

[Uncle Monster]

That poor innocent little snowflake was gunned down by a racist. Um, say what? The shooter wasn't Caucasian? Well hell, let's make up a new race,"White Hispanic"! That will promote our anti gun agenda and show that only White people are racists who gun down Black people. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Racist Monster

[Uncle Monster]

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 3:04:06 PM UTC-5, Mr Macaw wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:33:15 -0000, <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.
> >
> > Tip, don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvonn Martin learned that.
>
> There are no guns in the UK, so fists are just fine.
> --
>

No guns in The UK except in the hands of Muslim invaders whom the leadership of The UK allowed to move right in and set up shop. It's a tragic suicide by a once great country. My Caucasian British cousins are going to wish the hell they had all manner of guns when they have a civil war with the vermin they've allowed to infest their country. o_O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJcCectCGLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPiXN33bpuc

No guns in The UK but there are plenty of knives and thugs kill innocent people on a regular basis with fraking KNIVES. Where I'm from, an attack like the one in the video would have been stopped immediately with three attackers on the ground dead or bleeding from gunshots. ^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNjB4olRlU

[8~{} Uncle Agast Monster

[Bod]

How many times have you drawn your gun on someone and how many times
have you shot actually someone?

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[Bod]

> have you *actually* shot someone?
>


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[Uncle Monster]

I've stopped potentially bad situations by making a do-bad believe I had a gun. In other situations, I let them see that I was armed and they changed their minds about attacking and vacated the area. I've never shot anyone but the closest I've ever come to killing someone was with my bare hands and feet. When 385 pounds of angry business owner lands on a burglar with both feet, the miscreant doesn't get back up. Stomping the crook until he quit twitching was less bloody than shooting him and resulted in no police involvement because I tossed the creep behind a hedge down the street. My brother did essentially the same thing to a two legged critter who broke into the shop. He didn't call the cops either and there were no more break ins. I've had vermin casing my business and they decided against sticking around when they saw the pump shotgun I was carrying about the premises at night. I'm glad I haven't killed anyone because there's too much disruption of business and tons of paperwork involved. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Stomp Monster

[Uncle Monster]

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 2:46:35 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
>
> > How many times have you drawn your gun on someone and how many times
> > have you *actually* shot someone?
> --
> Bod

Would you like to be a target? I'm sure a bit of crowdfunding could raise enough money for an airline ticket and rental of a shooting range, ammunition plus the cameras to make a YouTube video. I think a lot of people posting here would be willing to donate to the event. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Target Monster

[Bod]

What a generous offer, but from what you say, there are plenty of human
"vermin" over there for plenty of target practice.
I regularly shoot people over here, but with a camera.

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[Stormin Mormon]

On 3/31/2016 4:11 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
>
> I've stopped potentially bad situations by making
a do-bad believe I had a gun. In other situations,
I let them see that I was armed and they changed
their minds about attacking and vacated the area.
I've never shot anyone but the closest I've ever
come to killing someone was with my bare hands and
feet. When 385 pounds of angry business owner lands
on a burglar with both feet, the miscreant doesn't
get back up. Stomping the crook until he quit
twitching was less bloody than shooting him and
resulted in no police involvement because I tossed
the creep behind a hedge down the street. My brother
did essentially the same thing to a two legged
critter who broke into the shop. He didn't call
the cops either and there were no more break ins.
I've had vermin casing my business and they decided
against sticking around when they saw the pump
shotgun I was carrying about the premises at night.
I'm glad I haven't killed anyone because there's too
much disruption of business and tons of paperwork
involved. ^_^
>
> [8~{} Uncle Stomp Monster
>

I hope your present gun free residence doesn't have
that kind of problem.

The ranchers in western USA have a similar tactic
called SSS. YMMV.

For pink cow:
USA = United States of America.
SSS = Shoot, Shovel, and Shut up.
YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary.
LDS = Latter-day Saints.

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[Stormin Mormon]

On 3/31/2016 4:11 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
>

> I've stopped potentially bad situations by making a do-bad believe I had a gun. In other situations, I let them see that I was armed and they changed their minds about attacking and vacated the area. I've never shot anyone but the closest I've ever come to killing someone was with my bare hands and feet. When 385 pounds of angry business owner lands on a burglar with both feet, the miscreant doesn't get back up. Stomping the crook until he quit twitching was less bloody than shooting him and resulted in no police involvement because I tossed the creep behind a hedge down the street. My brother did essentially the same thing to a two legged critter who broke into the shop. He didn't call the cops either and there were no more break ins. I've had vermin casing my business and they decided against sticking around when they saw the pump shotgun I was carrying about the premises at night. I'm glad I haven't killed anyone because there's too much disruption of business and tons of paper
work involved. ^_^
>
> [8~{} Uncle Stomp Monster
>

You'd likely enjoy meeting Gunner Asch, on
rec crafts metalworking. He's had some of
the same experiences.

[Mr Macaw]

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:36:13 +0100, Uncle Monster <uncl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 3:04:06 PM UTC-5, Mr Macaw wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:33:15 -0000, <gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0000, "Mr Macaw" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tough guys protect themselves with their fists.
>> >
>> > Tip, don't bring fists to a gun fight. Trayvonn Martin learned that.
>>
>> There are no guns in the UK, so fists are just fine.
>>

> No guns in The UK except in the hands of Muslim invaders whom the leadership of The UK allowed to move right in and set up shop. It's a tragic suicide by a once great country. My Caucasian British cousins are going to wish the hell they had all manner of guns when they have a civil war with the vermin they've allowed to infest their country. o_O

I agree all Muslims should be sent to Mars, no wait, the sun. Land them on the surface of the sun.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJcCectCGLY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPiXN33bpuc
>
> No guns in The UK but there are plenty of knives and thugs kill innocent people on a regular basis with fraking KNIVES. Where I'm from, an attack like the one in the video would have been stopped immediately with three attackers on the ground dead or bleeding from gunshots. ^_^

If we had guns it would be 46 times worse, like it is in the USA.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNjB4olRlU
>
> [8~{} Uncle Agast Monster

Hey, what about this?
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-29/company-creates-gun-that-looks-like-a-cellphone

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[Uncle Monster]

The worst thing around here is the noise. It can be noisier than a grammar school playground. The room next door to me has a couple of guys afflicted with cerebral palsy. They're relatively young but can't take care of themselves at all. Their bodies are all contorted and they have very little control of their limbs. One of them yells and the other screams. The one who yells has a reputation for biting the staff while they're caring for him. He'll start yelling that he wants pancakes, coffee or other things in his mangled almost unintelligible speech. Last night, he started yelling at 11:00pm, it went on until 3:00am. I don't get angry with the guys because I know they can't help it. I was asleep one day when someone came by the room and left the door open. The screamer was in the hall near my door when he started screaming. Needless to say, I was a bit irritated, not at the screamer but at whoever left my fraking door open. Me and my roommate like peace and quiet. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Quiet Monster

[Stormin Mormon]

On 3/31/2016 3:51 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
> The worst thing around here is the noise. It can
be noisier than a grammar school playground. The
room next door to me has a couple of guys afflicted
with cerebral palsy. They're relatively young but
can't take care of themselves at all. Their bodies
are all contorted and they have very little control
of their limbs. One of them yells and the other
screams. The one who yells has a reputation for
biting the staff while they're caring for him.
He'll start yelling that he wants pancakes, coffee
or other things in his mangled almost unintelligible
speech. Last night, he started yelling at 11:00pm,
it went on until 3:00am. I don't get angry with the
guys because I know they can't help it. I was asleep
one day when someone came by the room and left the
door open. The screamer was in the hall near my
door when he started screaming. Needless to say,
I was a bit irritated, not at the screamer but at
whoever left my fraking door open. Me and my
roommate like peace and quiet. ^_^
>
> [8~{} Uncle Quiet Monster
>

I used to visit a woman in a nursing home. She
said much the same thing. The noise level went
up at night.

[Uncle Monster]

I've seen GA posting in tx.guns for years. Lots of Hysterically Howling Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freak Politically Correct Trans Intellectual Anti Gun Loons try to clog tx.guns with their male bovine droppings all the time. They can't stand to see anyone who supports The Second Amendment and likes firearms discuss the subject. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Gun Monster

[Uncle Monster]

Heck, there's a lot of noise going on right now except that many residents are in the dining room playing bingo. A dang irritating wheelchair alarm was going off a while ago. It's a pressure sensor pad connected to a piezoelectric squealer that goes off if the occupant of the wheelchair gets up or falls out. At least the dang door was shut! o_O

[8~{} Uncle Quiet Monster

[Stormin Mormon]

Sounds a bit like living at McDonalds, with all
the various alarms going wild.

I think some nurses become able to tune out all
the alarms, the residents wait and wait.

One time I did attend a Bingo game at a home. The
caller would pull out the cards with the number,
call the number and shake the card up and down about
a foot in the air. All we could see was a grey blur.
I mentioned that to her, how hard it is to read a
sign that's going up and down about a foot, at about
120 Hz, but she ignored me.

[Stormin Mormon]

He does write like he enjoys his guns. Of course,
some folks take great effort to demonstrate that
he is less than truthful.

Likely the same folks who accuse me of clubbing
baby seals to death, shooting up banks, and the
occasional kidnapping of small boys. Or was that
molesting, I can't remember. In any case, I'll
likely never be Donald Trump's campaign manager.