snake in the back yard

[Muggles]

We've recently cleaned up our back yard and spread some pea gravel where
no grass will grow. It was always muddy when it would rain, so we gave
up and just weeded the sparse grass down that did come up along with any
weeds. The pea gravel looks nice in the path, but today we found a good
size garter snake right in the middle of the gravel sunning itself.
I've read they like to do that sort of thing, but now I'm not so sure if
it's such a good thing, although we let it go in the back part of the yard.

I'm wondering if the warm pea gravel attracted the slithering creature.
I've read conflicting information on whether or not they're venomous.
Has anyone had problems with such snakes causing problems, or are they
ok and mind their own business.

--
Maggie

[dpb]

On 06/11/2015 7:03 PM, Muggles wrote:
...

> I'm wondering if the warm pea gravel attracted the slithering creature.
> I've read conflicting information on whether or not they're venomous.
> Has anyone had problems with such snakes causing problems, or are they
> ok and mind their own business.

Possibly if it was otherwise yet cool; they are, after all, not mammalian.

If it was a garter snake it is certainly _not_ venomous and harmless;
it'll catch and dispose of rodents and the like as a side benefit...

--

[bob_villa]

No they are not venomous...they have reverse fangs that can snag and cause bleeding. I have been bitten many times...some are aggressive if you mess with them. I don't think this will be a reoccurring problem.

[Uncle Monster]

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 7:03:52 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:

I'd worry about dinosaurs sunning themselves on your pea gravel path. I hear they're quite fond of pea gravel. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Dino Monster

[Dan Espen]

They are not a problem.
Just saw one near my garage.
I just used a broom to send it away.

I don't know why they sometimes seek open spaces,
it's like asking to be eaten by larger birds, raccoons, cats.

--
Dan Espen

[rbowman]

On 06/11/2015 06:03 PM, Muggles wrote:
> I'm wondering if the warm pea gravel attracted the slithering creature.
> I've read conflicting information on whether or not they're venomous.
> Has anyone had problems with such snakes causing problems, or are they
> ok and mind their own business.

Snakes are good luck. The bigger ones help to thin out the mouse herds.
Unless it's six feet long with rattles ignore it.

[dadiOH]

Garter snakes are not venomous. In the US, there are four types of venomous
snakes...

1. rattle snake (numerous species)

2. copperhead

3. cotton mouth moccasin

4. coral snake

The first three are all pit vipers. Pit vipers have triangular shaped
heads; the iris of their eyes is a vertical slit (like cats) rather than
round. They are all easily identified by he triangular head. In addition...

Rattle snakes have the rattle

Cotton mouths have a white mouth interior; mature ones are almost black
and are chunky.

Copperheads have alternating, irregular bands of brown/reddish brown and
tan/cream. Unfortunately, so do some non-venomous snakes.

Coral snakes have alternating bands of red, yellow and black; so do some
very beneficial king snakes.You can distinguish them because the red and
yellow bands of the coral snake touch; they do not in the king snake.
Additionally, coral snakes have a black snout, kings do not.

All snakes, even the venomous ones, are beneficial. Leave them be.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
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[bob_villa]

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 6:41:12 AM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:

> All snakes, even the venomous ones, are beneficial. Leave them be.

+1

[Uncle Monster]

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 6:41:12 AM UTC-5, dadiOH wrote:

Does that include the two legged ones often involved in politics? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Snake Monster

[Terry Coombs]

A venomous snake out in the woods is one thing ... a venomous snake in the
yard where my grandchildren are playing is another . There is an overgrown
empty lot next door to our house in Memphis . Our son and his family live in
that house . Last trip to Memphis , one of their cats was bitten by a
venomous snake RIGHT NEXT TO THE DRIVEWAY WHERE THE KIDS WERE PLAYING . That
cat died in less than a minute , it was struck in the neck . Evidence was
found close by of a nest with opened eggs , probably copperheads . A young
copperhead was killed a couple of houses down just days before this happened
. Now then , since all snakes are beneficial , should we just let them be
and risk one of the neighborhood kids getting struck and maybe die ?
I think not .
--
Snag

[Oren]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:05:46 -0500, "Terry Coombs" <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

>> All snakes, even the venomous ones, are beneficial. Leave them be.
>
> A venomous snake out in the woods is one thing ... a venomous snake in the
>yard where my grandchildren are playing is another . There is an overgrown
>empty lot next door to our house in Memphis . Our son and his family live in
>that house . Last trip to Memphis , one of their cats was bitten by a
>venomous snake RIGHT NEXT TO THE DRIVEWAY WHERE THE KIDS WERE PLAYING . That
>cat died in less than a minute , it was struck in the neck . Evidence was
>found close by of a nest with opened eggs , probably copperheads . A young
>copperhead was killed a couple of houses down just days before this happened
>. Now then , since all snakes are beneficial , should we just let them be
>and risk one of the neighborhood kids getting struck and maybe die ?
> I think not .

I agree. I've had a coiled cotton mouth near my face, ready to strike
- 30.06 fixed him. Former BIL was struck by a diamond back while we
were hunting - shot dead. I have a healthy fear of poisonous snakes,
but I will not let them threaten me without them getting the
consequences.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 6/12/2015 10:16 AM, Oren wrote:

>
> Former BIL was struck by a diamond back while we
> were hunting - shot dead.

>

Incredible. Snakes should not be allowed to have guns for exactly that
reason.

[Oren]

You are on a roll today, Ed. I was still having coffee :)

[dadiOH]

No, they are (should be) KOS

[Oren]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:44:10 -0400, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>
wrote:

...or put them in a cage and sell tickets. Very entertaining.

[bob haller]

> A venomous snake out in the woods is one thing ... a venomous snake in the
> yard where my grandchildren are playing is another . There is an overgrown
> empty lot next door to our house in Memphis . Our son and his family live in
> that house . Last trip to Memphis , one of their cats was bitten by a
> venomous snake RIGHT NEXT TO THE DRIVEWAY WHERE THE KIDS WERE PLAYING . That
> cat died in less than a minute , it was struck in the neck . Evidence was
> found close by of a nest with opened eggs , probably copperheads . A young
> copperhead was killed a couple of houses down just days before this happened
> . Now then , since all snakes are beneficial , should we just let them be
> and risk one of the neighborhood kids getting struck and maybe die ?
> I think not .
> --
> Snag

why not carefully claen up the vacant lot next door, and cut the grass occasionally.

just a bit of work can beautify the neighborhood and help make it safer too

[Oren]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:47:55 -0700 (PDT), bob haller <hal...@aol.com>
wrote:

Mowers kill snakes. Maybe you have not seen or experienced it? Why
would Snag clean a lot not belonging to him? The EPA may get on your
case in a protected area. What if it caused frogs to die?

[Vandy Terre]

Be aware that any breed of snake will rattle it
tail when upset. Oh, BTW, pygmy rattlesnakes are
near the same size as a garter snake, but near
invisible on a brown dirt or old leaf background.
The pygmy rattlesnake does not have real rattles
but does have sharp teeth.

[Uncle Monster]

No good deed goes unpunished. The cops would probably show up and arrest him for trespassing. A better solution is what we do around here when there is an overgrown empty lot. Call the city and city workers will clean it up and the city will bill the owner and if the owner doesn't pay, the city condemns and seizes the property. Of course you will never see a junked up overgrown empty lot in an upper class neighborhood. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Junk Monster

[Oren]

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 12:32:28 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
<uncl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> why not carefully claen up the vacant lot next door, and cut the grass occasionally.
>>
>> just a bit of work can beautify the neighborhood and help make it safer too
>
>No good deed goes unpunished. The cops would probably show up and arrest him for trespassing. A better solution is what we do around here when there is an overgrown empty lot. Call the city and city workers will clean it up and the city will bill the owner and if the owner doesn't pay, the city condemns and seizes the property. Of course you will never see a junked up overgrown empty lot in an upper class neighborhood. ^_^
>
>[8~{} Uncle Junk Monster

A man in Texas just died from a swarm of bee stings after he cut the
neighbor's lawn, as a good intended act.

_White House eyes plan to diversify wealthy neighborhoods_

Jun. 12, 2015 - 7:23 - Critics call proposed HUD plan to use federal
grants to encourage low income housing in wealthy areas an example of
massive government overreach.

<http://video.foxnews.com/v/4292408954001/white-house-eyes-plan-to-diversify-wealthy-neighborhoods/?playlist_id=928378949001#sp=show-clips>

<https://tinyurl.com/oo2z7xj>

Can I have chicken coops and a dozen pigs on my lot?

[Terry Coombs]

The city has cleaned up the lot and billed the owner . He ain't happy . No
way I'd get involved in that , though the city offered my son (who lives in
my house - I live 175 miles away in Arkansas) a contract to do the mowing .
He wisely (IMO) declined . The owner bought that lot for back taxes in
anticipation of building on it and turning a profit - which ain't happenin'
in that neighborhood at this time . One more example of the gov't stepping
in and "helping" by offering property owners a big fat section 8 check to
rent to "minorities" .

--
Snag

[Uncle Monster]

From what I've been able to find, the majority of people in Section 8 housing are Caucasian. Same with welfare, the majority appear to be Caucasian too. The difference I've read about seems to be in the amount of time different racial groups stay on public assistance. I can't find a good comprehensive source for all the numbers without spending more time searching than I care to but as I recall, Caucasians spend the least amount of time on public assistance. But the claim that Negro Americans make up the largest group on public assistance looks like a misnomer to me. I wish someone with a better source would post a link. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Fair and Balanced Monster

[Muggles]

This was a small snake, but it still makes me nervous. I REALLY don't
like spiders or snakes!

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

I hope so. The neighbor behind my house lets their yard grow up with
huge weeds by the fence between us. I guess that's why the snake showed
up because of a plentiful food supply

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

On 6/11/2015 7:10 PM, bob_villa wrote:
> On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 7:03:52 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
>> We've recently cleaned up our back yard and spread some pea gravel where
>> no grass will grow. It was always muddy when it would rain, so we gave
>> up and just weeded the sparse grass down that did come up along with any
>> weeds. The pea gravel looks nice in the path, but today we found a good
>> size garter snake right in the middle of the gravel sunning itself.
>> I've read they like to do that sort of thing, but now I'm not so sure if
>> it's such a good thing, although we let it go in the back part of the yard.
>>
>> I'm wondering if the warm pea gravel attracted the slithering creature.
>> I've read conflicting information on whether or not they're venomous.
>> Has anyone had problems with such snakes causing problems, or are they
>> ok and mind their own business.
>>

>

> No they are not venomous...they have reverse fangs that can snag and cause bleeding. I have been bitten many times...some are aggressive if you mess with them. I don't think this will be a reoccurring problem.
>

Reverse fangs? uh I don't think I'll be picking the thing up for sure,
now.

--
Maggie

[Terry Coombs]

Trash is trash no matter the color of their skin . However , in this case
the tenants are/were mostly black . Memphis has a predominantly black
population , and most of them are good citizens . And many are not . The
problem I see with section 8 is that the tenants are not held responsible
for any damage they do to the property . Since they are not held accountable
, they tear things up to the point that properties are not livable , then
move on to another . Rinse , lather , repeat . IMO if they were denied
another place to live under sec8 if they did this , they'd quit doing it .
Maybe .
And maybe they'd scream discrimination ...
--
Snag

[Muggles]

Long time ago I was dating a guy a few years older than me. He was all
strong and proud of it, too. He was helping me rake up the back yard
leaves and this night crawler came slithering out from under the leaves.
He screamed like a girl because he thought it was a snake. I thought I'd
die laughing!

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

right. I'll have to remember to do that. Good idea. Thanks!

--
Maggie

[rbowman]

On 06/12/2015 07:18 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
> From what I've been able to find, the majority of people in Section 8 housing are Caucasian. Same with welfare, the majority appear to be Caucasian too. The difference I've read about seems to be in the amount of time different racial groups stay on public assistance. I can't find a good comprehensive source for all the numbers without spending more time searching than I care to but as I recall, Caucasians spend the least amount of time on public assistance. But the claim that Negro Americans make up the largest group on public assistance looks like a misnomer to me. I wish someone with a better source would post a link. ^_^
>

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

Welfare Demographics
Percent of recipients who are white 38.8 %
Percent of recipients who are black 39.8 %
Percent of recipients who are Hispanic 15.7 %
Percent of recipients who are Asian 2.4 %
Percent of recipients who are Other 3.3 %

however, that has to be balanced against

The U.S. population's distribution by race and ethnicity in 2010
Non-Hispanic White 63.7 %
Non-Hispanic Black or African American 12.2 %
Non-Hispanic Asian 4.7 %
Hispanic or Latino 16.4 %

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

Blacks are vastly overrepresented on the welfare roles.

[Uncle Monster]

I've looked into section 8 housing myself because I'm disabled and can't do physical labor anymore. Hell, I can't walk right now. The only problem here in the Birmingham area is the waiting list that is only open for applications once a year. I must find a flat place without any stairs so I can get in and out easily because the house I'm in right now has too many stairs. The home health care service is trying to help me find handicapped accessible housing, hopefully someplace quiet. It's very frustrating to be unable to get up and go when I want to. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Gimpy Monster

[Uncle Monster]

I've had girlfriends who played with all kinds of critters and creepy crawlers. We'd trade them back and forth. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Critter Monster

[Uncle Monster]

Blacks are over-represented in the prisons too but the numbers you have for public assistance are a lot different than what I kept coming across.
The fact that White people make up the great majority of the population would seem to assure that more of them would be on public assistance. If 12% of the population accounts for 40% of those on public assistance, there is something very wrong indeed. I've read that the the economic situation for Black Americans has deteriorated during the term of our first Affirmative Action President but could it be that bad? I thought it was to was supposed to become so much better or at least that's what got the present administration voted into power. How much worse can it get?

[8~{} Uncle Sad Monster

[Terry Coombs]

Are you ready for the screams that you're a racist ? Doesn't matter that
what you say is true , it's "racism" to mention it .

--
Snag

[Terry Coombs]

Is it intentional , designed to incite a race war ? "Never let a good
crisis go to waste." Create the crisis , then use it to support the
implementation of martial law . And since things are so unsettled , let's
just hold off on elections until this "crisis" is over ... have you noticed
the upsurge of racial violence lately ? And it's NOT white's attacking
blacks . Though that tide may turn if this keeps up ...

--
Snag

[Uncle Monster]

If you're an American it doesn't matter what color your skin is, it's our country and we're all in the same boat. This bull poop about splitting American society up into different protected species is downright silly and destructive. The Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freaks infesting the present Executive Branch want to foment chaos in everything so there is an excuse for the central government to come riding to the rescue to save the day by taking over the function and usurping the power of state and local governments. I read something interesting about the riots going on in different areas of the country where some of the rioters are actually being paid to be agent provocateurs to stir things up and get the violence and destruction started by trashing peaceful demonstrations. It sounds like something from the conspiracy nut crowd but I have to wonder who could profit from a race war. There are always those people who profit from any war by plundering what's left after it's all over. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Worried Monster

[Muggles]

I hear Critter Monsters are good with critters and creepy crawlers.

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

It's weird that a thread that starts out as talking about a real garter
"snake in the back yard" morphs into talking about racism!

--
Maggie

[bob_villa]

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 8:57:46 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:

> It's weird that a thread that starts out as talking about a real garter
> "snake in the back yard" morphs into talking about racism!
> --
> Maggie

...too true!

[Uncle Monster]

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 8:57:46 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:

If it goes on any longer someone will start howling "NAZI!!" 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Nazi Monster

[tony944]

"Oren" wrote in message news:o26mna9kt75ahvo0l...@4ax.com...

O yah that would be "VERY ENTERTAINING"

[rbowman]

On 06/12/2015 09:02 PM, Muggles wrote:
> Long time ago I was dating a guy a few years older than me. He was all
> strong and proud of it, too. He was helping me rake up the back yard
> leaves and this night crawler came slithering out from under the leaves.
> He screamed like a girl because he thought it was a snake. I thought I'd
> die laughing!

I'm guessing he wasn't much of a fisherman.

[rbowman]

On 06/12/2015 10:06 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
> I've read that the the economic situation for Black Americans has deteriorated during the term of our first Affirmative Action President but could it be that bad? I thought it was to was supposed to become so much better or at least that's what got the present administration voted into power. How much worse can it get?

I'm not black so I can't really make the call but I can't see where
Obama has done anything for the black community. Sure he plays the race
card, jumps into that thing with Gates that led to the beer summit, and
says Travon Martin could have been his son. He's an Oreo when the rubber
meets the road.

Despite the puff pieces and whistling in the dark, the economic
situation hasn't improved for the white contingent of the 99% either.
Blacks and Hispanics just get pushed further down the heap.

It will be all better when we have free trade agreements with Europe and
Asia though. Happy times will be here again.

[rbowman]

On 06/12/2015 11:54 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
> It sounds like something from the conspiracy nut crowd but I have to wonder who could profit from a race war. There are always those people who profit from any war by plundering what's left after it's all over. o_O

"A South politician preaches to the poor white man
“You got more than the blacks, don’t complain.
You’re better than them, you been born with white skin,” they explain.
And the Negro’s name
Is used it is plain
For the politician’s gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain’t him to blame
He’s only a pawn in their game"

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/only-pawn-their-game

Dylan wrote that over 50 years ago, but it's the same game. Keep the
whites stirred up about the blacks and Hispanics and vice versa. They'll
be too busy to notice who is really screwing them. Both the Democrats
and Republicans are past masters of the game.

[rbowman]

On 06/12/2015 10:21 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> Are you ready for the screams that you're a racist ? Doesn't matter that
> what you say is true , it's "racism" to mention it .

I've been called worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL2Dl9rMXZY

You can substitute almost anything for 'Red'. The only safe route is to
concern yourself with the state of Kim Kardashian's butt or Bruce
Jenner's sexuality. I watched a DVD last night called 'Idiocracy'. It
was a mildly funny but very scary sci-fi flick. I think we're almost there.

[rbowman]

On 06/13/2015 07:57 AM, Muggles wrote:
> It's weird that a thread that starts out as talking about a real garter
> "snake in the back yard" morphs into talking about racism!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hYBgpZdbKM

I'm a crawlin' king snake, baby.

[Oren]

On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:45:30 -0600, rbowman <bow...@erewhon.com>
wrote:

...or very queer.

A gay prisoner once declared he was "afraid of spiders!"

Another one saw a gorilla on the tier. Staff member wore a gorilla
mask down range at count time :)

He was transferred to the medical prison at USP Springfield, MO, by
the psychologist. Doctors sent him back as "cured".

The mask was found in the prison sewage lift - investigated as an
elaborate prison escape plot.

[Uncle Monster]

Black Americans are AMERICANS and when they hurt, all Americans hurt. Some of the finest most upstanding people I know have darker skin than I have and there are some Black Americans I consider to be heroes who should be looked up to by ALL Americans. One of the worst things to happen to America is that pernicious federal cluster coitus known as The Great Society encompassing The War On Poverty which is, in my opinion, responsible for the destruction of the wonderful Black American families which produced children who grew to be good, law abiding citizens. These days, tragically, more than 70% of Black American births are out-of-wedlock which is unconscionable behavior with the highest numbers being in Washington D.C. Currently, almost 40% of all Black pregnancies end in abortion and the Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freaks couldn't care less. Yet when a Black teenaged thug is killed during the commission of a violent crime, suddenly Black lives matter. Dr.Michael Savage coined the phrase,"Liberalism is a mental disorder." I see the proof of this everyday in the national media. o_O

Ted Nugent summed it up when he wrote,

"While the stains of institutional racism have faded into our nation's past, Dr. King's dream of economic equality remains unfulfilled for many black Americans who remain mired in poverty.

Just one year after Dr. King delivered his memorable speech, President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society began a systematic and engineered welfare juggernaut that would do more damage, cause more harm and become responsible for more destruction to black America than the evils of slavery and the KKK combined.

President Johnson's Great Society's War on Poverty has turned out to be, for all practical and statistical purposes, a War on Black America."

I have to agree with Mr.Nugent because I've witnessed the events during my lifetime. I must stop writing about it now because the memories of what's happened to my fellow Americans is making me angry. >_<

[8~{} Uncle Mad Monster

[Uncle Monster]

Who's the man behind the curtain? I keep reading that it's the world's richest families who control all the money, all the politicians and always profit from any chaos thus growing richer and more powerful. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Chaos Monster

[Uncle Monster]

"Idiocracy" is one of my favorite comedies that is a bit scary because it seems to accurately predict the future if things keep going the way they are. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Future Monster

[Muggles]

SILENCE! I NAZI YOU! HAHA

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

R & B ... nice.

--
Maggie

[rbowman]

On 06/13/2015 08:22 PM, Muggles wrote:
> R & B ... nice.

I don't think anybody ever accused John Lee of R&B. He was just blues. I
saw him play in Maine, no fancy venue, just a clearing in the woods with
mosquitoes bigger than blue jays. No band either, just him, a guitar,
and a pallet for him to stomp out the rhythm. Like he said, all them
fancy chords don't mean a thing as long as it's got the beat.

[Les Moore]

On 06/13/2015 09:57 AM, Muggles wrote:
>
> It's weird that a thread that starts out as talking about a real garter
> "snake in the back yard" morphs into talking about racism!
>

Yes, we have a few lame-ass topic-shifting idiots here.

[Terry Coombs]

Well , it was a natural progression , as is thread drift in many usenet
groups . If you don't like it , don't read it . Actually , I think the drift
in this one started with my post about the POISONOUS SNAKE that killed a cat
just feet from where my G-kids were playing ... and the reasons it was there
. There , back on topic . Are you happy now , or was there something else
you wanted to bitch and moan about ?

--
Snag

[Uncle Monster]

Have you ever noticed how some posters will start bitching about topic shift when they never participate in a thread except to bitch? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Bitchy Monster

[Muggles]

Guess that's where I got the rhythm part.

--
Maggie

[Muggles]

I didn't say it was a bad thing. Just it was weird how it morphed.

--
Maggie

[rbowman]

On 06/14/2015 09:54 AM, Muggles wrote:
> "it's got the beat."
>
> Guess that's where I got the rhythm part.

R&B is one of those weird labels that are hard to categorize. It's more
polished than country blues. Back in the days of 'race records' it was
the music that hit the white charts. T-bone Walker, Sam Cooke, Chuck
Berry, Aretha Franklin, James Brown, Wilson Picket, Fats Domino, and so
on are typical R&B acts. Big Mama Thorton might have been R&B but it
took a white boy recording 'Hound Dog' to hit the charts.

The quick test is if you've never heard of them, they were Blues artists
-- Lightnin' Hopkins, Son House, Mississippi John Hurt, Blind Willie
Johnson, Albert King, Elmore James... Of course the genre got milked
by the white boy bands. Robert Johnson was long dead before Cream went
to the crossroad.

How's that for drift, Les?

[Muggles]

Whatever it's called, I like the kind that has a nice beat to it. You
know, one that makes you want to get up out of your chair and move with
the beat. It makes you feel alive, and maybe even a bit nostalgic. Or I
should say it just makes you feel something whether it's good or bad,
you just have to respond to it.

> How's that for drift, Les?
>

--
Maggie

[Oren]

You seem to be the idiot, here. When a post is answered several
times, why repeat the answer over and over?

You must be new here or the idiot. Threads drift later, idiot.

[Snakeinthefire]

replying to Muggles, Snakeinthefire wrote:
Garter snakes are non venemous and serve a valuable function of insect and
rodent control! In fact most snakes are non venemous! Learn how to is the
dangerous snakes in your zone and live in harmony with all of them and stop
watching so much fear mongering television!

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/snake-in-the-back-yard-834454-.htm

[Oren]

On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 18:14:02 GMT, Snakeinthefire
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to Muggles, Snakeinthefire wrote:
>Garter snakes are non venemous and serve a valuable function of insect and
>rodent control! In fact most snakes are non venemous! Learn how to is the
>dangerous snakes in your zone and live in harmony with all of them and stop
>watching so much fear mongering television!

Nevada has five types of rattle snakes. Those vipers will kill you.

It is fact and not fear.

[Terry Coombs]

  We only have two kinds ... but we also have copperheads , coral
snakes , and water moccasins . And they're all safe on our place as long
as they stay in their place - which is out in the woods . If I catch a
poisonous snake in an area that we frequent , I'll kill it . I don't
relocate because I don't want to get bit . Might be different if I had
the tools , but since I don't I ain't getting that close . A hoe with a
5 foot handle is perfect .

  --

  Snag

[BurfordTJustice]

which is it 2 or 6


"Terry Coombs" <snag...@msn.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 14:37:57 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

Massasauga rattlers are about the only venomous snakes I might
encounter within 100 miles of home - The only dangerous snake native
to Ontario - and a "protected species"

Not like my time in Zambia where Pit Vipers, Maambas, Boomslang,
Cobras, Puff adders, Night Adders, Gabboon Vipers, and Twig Snakes
could all give you a "bad day" - and most were killed on sight by the
locals if in settled areas.