Can I haul a new water heater home on its side?
mkir...@rochester.rr.com
lay the box on its side in the bed of my truck? I have a fiberglass
topper and the heater is too tall to stand up.
The boxes say "This side up" and whatnot, but it's a water heater...
I'd like to save gas and just get the heater on the way home instead
of making a special trip.
Joe
The warning signs are likely for the warehouse crew to protect against
damage to accessories stored in the top of the box. To be on the safe
side, avoid potholes and speed bumps on the way home if heater is on
its side. HTH
Joe.
tra...@optonline.net
Yes, you can lay it on it's side, unless it's one of the new ones that
comes pre-filled with water. You know, like the antifreeze they have
now that comes with 50% water as a convenience.
I'd say the this side up is the preferred shipping and/or stacking
direction. But for an easy ride in a truck, side will be fine.
ransley
Could the anode rod break if it is on its side?
Limp Arbor
I wouldn't try it. Most if not all of the preheated water that is
installed at the factory will leak out. Water heaters are notoriously
hard to prime if the factory installed water gets out.
David Nebenzahl
That's right. You sure don't want to lose that "new water heater" smell,
either.
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Blattus Slafaly
Hot water doesn't need heating.
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Oren
wrote:
Walk around the carton. Look for "truck from this side"! :-))
Short answer: yes, haul it.
Ken
I believe most have a glass lining that is more vulnerable on the
sides. Be careful however, and you should be OK.
SteveBell
When you're picking up your water heater, splurge on some tie-down
ratchet straps. Put the WH upright in your pickup, and strap it in
place. You just solved both problems at once, and you have new straps
for future use.
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Oren
The truck topper prevents vertical strapping of the tank, right?
Skip the tie-downs, ime...
DerbyDad03
1 - Cut a hole in the topper just a tad bigger then the box.
2 - Slip the box in up-right
3 - At home, take the WH out of the box and put the box back in the
hole for extra storage
4 - Stay out of the rain
mkir...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
> When you're picking up your water heater, splurge on some tie-down
> ratchet straps. Put the WH upright in your pickup, and strap it in
> place. You just solved both problems at once, and you have new straps
> for future use.
I've got plenty of tie-down straps.
What I don't have is overhead clearance to stand the water heater
upright anywhere in the pickup. It's about 5'6" tall in the box, and
I've only got 2' of clearance under the fiberglass topper. Even
raised, I've only got 3'6" of clearance at the back of the bed.
I just checked the box a little more closely. In one warning label, it
depicts a water heater sticking out of the trunk of a car, and says,
"Avoid hauling like this, but if you must haul it like this ensure
adequate padding for the box."
So, they imply that it's okay to lay it on its side if necessary.
I'm only going about 5 miles over smooth road, and I'll drive slowly
and carefully.
BTW, nowhere in any of this have I made the mistake of calling it a
"HOT water heater," so NYAH-NYAH!!!! :)
mkir...@rochester.rr.com
> 1 - Cut a hole in the topper just a tad bigger then the box.
> 2 - Slip the box in up-right
> 3 - At home, take the WH out of the box and put the box back in the
> hole for extra storage
> 4 - Stay out of the rain
Now that's a solution I didn't think of...
Morris Dovey
> BTW, nowhere in any of this have I made the mistake of calling it a
> "HOT water heater," so NYAH-NYAH!!!! :)
Hmm - better save the "neener-neener" stuff for when you have it
installed and working without any problems...
:-D
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Jim
Have at least one helper to assist you. That way you can avoid any
stresses that might result when pivoting the carton while loading into
the truck.
charlie
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they haven't made glass lines ones for many, many years. they use ceramics
instead, which is why you don't want to bounce them when on their side. you
don't want to flex them in any way.
aemeijers
Good example of why I always thought those semi-permanent bed-lid
toppers just make a truck into a 2-door coupe with a huge trunk. Yeah,
you can take them off, but it is such a pain that people never do.
But as to how to haul the heater- it isn't so much that you need
padding, it is that you need to avoid kinking. Hauling cheap office file
cabinets and refrigerators presents a similar problem. (Yeah, I know
about the oil in fridges- you just have to let them sit a few days.) I'd
either use some planks, or a sheet of stiff plywood, or a handtruck, and
support the entire length of the item as it was leaned over into the
bed. (I seldom had a helper available.)
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SteveBell
> On Aug 21, 3:30 pm, "SteveBell" <resp...@online.newsgroup.invalid>
> wrote:
> > When you're picking up your water heater, splurge on some tie-down
> > ratchet straps. Put the WH upright in your pickup, and strap it in
> > place. You just solved both problems at once, and you have new
> > straps for future use.
>
> I've got plenty of tie-down straps.
Sorry about that, Chief. I read too fast and missed the part where you
mentioned the bed cap
> What I don't have is overhead clearance to stand the water heater
> upright anywhere in the pickup. It's about 5'6" tall in the box, and
> I've only got 2' of clearance under the fiberglass topper. Even
> raised, I've only got 3'6" of clearance at the back of the bed.
>
> I just checked the box a little more closely. In one warning label, it
> depicts a water heater sticking out of the trunk of a car, and says,
> "Avoid hauling like this, but if you must haul it like this ensure
> adequate padding for the box."
>
> So, they imply that it's okay to lay it on its side if necessary.
>
> I'm only going about 5 miles over smooth road, and I'll drive slowly
> and carefully.
>
> BTW, nowhere in any of this have I made the mistake of calling it a
> "HOT water heater," so NYAH-NYAH!!!! :)
Good on you. Now you just have to train yourself to call it a "COLD
water heater". :)
Big_Jake
I have never seen so much BS in a thread on this group. I have NEVER
hauled a water heater standing up, and I have installed between 35 and
50 in my lifetime. The ONLY thing that you have to watch out for is
that you don't smack the gas valve while transporting it, which is
clearly marked as "control" on one side. If the heater is electric,
you don't even have to worry about it.
JK
Mark
a932de...@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
Tie it upright to the front bumper like you're haulin' home a trophy buck
that you just shot.
Mark
d95513...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> I have NEVER
> hauled a water heater standing up, and I have installed between 35 and
> 50 in my lifetime.
Maybe if you hauled it properly, you wouldn't have to keep re-installing
new ones.
Idiot.
Big_Jake
wrote:
You actually get "cold" water from the taps in Texas? I would think
that the water coming into the house there would be "tepid".
JK
DerbyDad03
re: I have never seen so much BS in a thread on this group.
What BS?
If my math is correct, 99% of the responders either said it was OK to
haul it on it's side or made a joke about it. The only one who said to
haul it upright missed the part where the OP said he had a cap on his
truck, and then corrected himself.
Where's the BS you mention?
Big_Jake
1) Could the anode break if it is on its side?
I know this is a question, but c'mon, the anode is a metal rod
2)I believe that most have a glass lining...
Yeah, 30 years ago. Someone else already caught this.
3)Avoid stresses when loading it into your truck.
This sounds like good advice, but the box actually protects it pretty
well. The worst you might do it put a dent in it. Again, I load them
by pivoting the carton all the time, and have never damaged one. But
the real danger is pivoting it on the gas control, which is relatively
easy to damage.
4)Avoid kinking, like a cheap file cabinet or fridge...
Respect to aem, who posts all the time, but again, the heater is in a
heavy carton. Also, there is a layer of insulation between the tank
and the jacket, which makes the heater harder to dent or kink. Unlike
a file cabinet or refrigerator, you aren't like to see the dent you
put in a heater, since they are usually installed in closets,
basements, attics, utility rooms, etc.
JK
Big_Jake
> Big_Jake <I.do.realest...@gmail.com> wrote in news:2e7c4728-1b5d-4a3c-803b-
> d95513fda...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I have NEVER
> > hauled a water heater standing up, and I have installed between 35 and
> > 50 in my lifetime.
>
> Maybe if you hauled it properly, you wouldn't have to keep re-installing
> new ones.
Never had to replace one that I installed.
> Idiot.
Well, that's constructive and beneficial to the group.
JK
Stormin Mormon
into the extrabulator, and oxidizes the catalyst. The catalyst in a HWH is
almost the complete price of the entire unit, to replace. So, maybe you'd
best have a plumber out to do the install?
OTOH, just put the HWH tank in your truck, smile, and be done with it.
Please use lead free solder.
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DerbyDad03
Not BS, just an ignorant (but not stupid) question.
>
> 2)I believe that most have a glass lining...
>
re: Yeah, 30 years ago. Someone else already caught this.
Not BS, just an ignorant (but not stupid) belief
>
> 3)Avoid stresses when loading it into your truck.
Semantics perhaps, but not BS
You said it yourself: "The ONLY thing that you have to watch out for
is
that you don't smack the gas valve while transporting it"
He said stress, you said smack. You say tomaaato, I say tamotto.
(Now *that's* BS - I don't really say tamotto)
>
> This sounds like good advice, but the box actually protects it pretty
> well. The worst you might do it put a dent in it. Again, I load them
> by pivoting the carton all the time, and have never damaged one. But
> the real danger is pivoting it on the gas control, which is relatively
> easy to damage.
>
re: 4)Avoid kinking, like a cheap file cabinet or fridge...
Even if we grant you this one as a possible BS candidate, IMO a single
instance doesn't measure up to "I have never seen so much BS in a
thread on this group. "
>
> Respect to aem, who posts all the time, but again, the heater is in a
> heavy carton. Also, there is a layer of insulation between the tank
> and the jacket, which makes the heater harder to dent or kink. Unlike
> a file cabinet or refrigerator, you aren't like to see the dent you
> put in a heater, since they are usually installed in closets,
> basements, attics, utility rooms, etc.
>
> JK- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
SteveBell
> You actually get "cold" water from the taps in Texas? I would think
> that the water coming into the house there would be "tepid".
Not this time of year, I don't. It starts out chilly, then warms up
after I use up the water that was sitting inside the walls.
DerbyDad03
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
re: ... after I use up the water that was sitting inside the walls.
You really should get that fixed.
SteveBell
> You really should get that fixed.
I thought about it, but life is too short to live in a house without
Harry L
<boobooil...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
>Hot water doesn't need heating.
No, but heating it does take less energy than heating cold water.
People do it to save on their energy bills.
JC
was once told that the only reason that statement is on the box is to
keep people from laying it on the side that has the controls on it.
Whatever.
J. Clarke
I suspect that it also stops people from laying it on its side and
then piling another stack of water heaters on top of it.
My air compressor had a similar warning on the box.
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Big_Jake
I concede and bow to your greater patience for lame answers to
newsgroup questions.
JK
Uncle Monster
It's a cold water heater, a hot water
heater is a boiler. *snicker*
[8~{} Uncle Monster
Erik
<8f9de4ac-f912-4f14...@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
mkir...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
> Do I need to take the trailer to HD to get a new water heater or can I
> lay the box on its side in the bed of my truck? I have a fiberglass
> topper and the heater is too tall to stand up.
>
> The boxes say "This side up" and whatnot, but it's a water heater...
> I'd like to save gas and just get the heater on the way home instead
> of making a special trip.
I was told years ago not to transport water heaters horizontally because
their long internal Magnesium anode rods are fragile suspended out
supported only by one end.
In the real world, I've transported 8 or 10 new ones horizontally
through the years, but have always been extra careful of road bumps, and
to not to mechanically 'shock' the heater while on it's side.
If you do break a rod, you won't have any way of knowing, and it won't
'rear' it's ugly head till the tank rusts through pre-maturely...
Erik
Big_Jake
> If you do break a rod, you won't have any way of knowing, and it won't
> 'rear' it's ugly head till the tank rusts through pre-maturely...
>
> Erik
You wouldn't hear the broken rod rattling around in the inside of the
heater as you installed it?
JK
Harry L
How water heaters are for those who like to cook in the shower :-)
Uncle Monster
Wuts a "how" water heater? Is it an American Indian
water heater? Perhaps it's a water heater that explains
what it's doing?
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Harry L
<uncl...@suckass.com> wrote:
[snip]
>> How water heaters are for those who like to cook in the shower :-)
>
>Wuts a "how" water heater? Is it an American Indian
>water heater? Perhaps it's a water heater that explains
>what it's doing?
>
What it is, is the spell checker. It doesn't know when a 'w' is really
a 't'. People usually seem to figure those out, considering context.
Software can't.
>[8~{} Uncle Monster
Uncle Monster
Oh eye get it, a spiel chequer pogrom
malefactor. Eye understate know.
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mm
>On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:49:33 -0700 (PDT), mkir...@rochester.rr.com
>wrote:
>
>>Do I need to take the trailer to HD to get a new water heater or can I
>>lay the box on its side in the bed of my truck? I have a fiberglass
>>topper and the heater is too tall to stand up.
>>
>>The boxes say "This side up" and whatnot, but it's a water heater...
>>I'd like to save gas and just get the heater on the way home instead
>>of making a special trip.
In separate years, I've taken two home on the trunk and lowered top of
my LeBaron.
The Sears ones don't claim to be glass lined, and they only have a
translucent whitish vinyl liner. So it's not going to break, but
that's not any more likely on the side versus the bottom.
I've also carried on separate occasions two spinet pianos on the
lowered top and trunk when I had a full size convertible. I put a
double bed mattress on the trunk and I go very slow, 5 or 10 mph where
there are chuckholes.
>It should be fine on the side. I think they are just trying to protect
>the top (pipe stub outs).
Some readers here might remember that my WH top was caved in a half
inch or more, and one of the pipes was no longer exactly vertical, but
I installed it anyhow last winter and so far so good.
Especially since there is a vinyl liner and no glass liner, I don't
expect any shortening of the WH life.
Mike H
Your compressor was probably oil filled.
Do not lay a gas water heater with controls on the bottom.
Damage will occur.
The rest if the rest is for warehouse dummies.
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Colonel Edmund J. Burke
> replying to J. Clarke, Mike H wrote:
> Your compressor was probably oil filled.
> Do not lay a gas water heater with controls on the bottom.
> Damage will occur.
> The rest if the rest is for warehouse dummies.
>
And if they were there, where would the pilot light go?
&
Reverend Harry Hardwick
> replying to J. Clarke, Mike H wrote:
> Your compressor was probably oil filled.
> Do not lay a gas water heater with controls on the bottom.
> Damage will occur.
> The rest if the rest is for warehouse dummies.
>
matt...@gmail.com
> Do I need to take the trailer to HD to get a new water heater or can I
> lay the box on its side in the bed of my truck? I have a fiberglass
> topper and the heater is too tall to stand up.
>
> The boxes say "This side up" and whatnot, but it's a water heater...
> I'd like to save gas and just get the heater on the way home instead
> of making a special trip.
Reverend Harry Hardwick
robert.r....@gmail.com
Ed Pawlowski
> Everybodys a comedian nowadays.
>
Thank you for noticing
LittleJR
Or more correctly, Hot water doesn't need TO BE heated.
fullofcupcakes
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Dan Espen
> I think the preheated water has cooled by now so it has contracted
> leaving a vacuum to suck the glass away from the cast iron. That
> should protect the water.
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micky
>I think the preheated water has cooled by now so it has contracted leaving a vacuum to suck the glass away from the cast iron. That should protect the water.
so it doesn't jostle around when transported. You can take it to a
wholesale meat market or a similar place and they'll freeze it for you.
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Jim Joyce
wouldn't need a heater.
I'll show myself out. :-)
Godis Mytower
> > Do I need to take the trailer to HD to get a new water heater or can I
> > lay the box on its side in the bed of my truck? I have a fiberglass
> > topper and the heater is too tall to stand up.
> >
> > The boxes say "This side up" and whatnot, but it's a water heater...
> > I'd like to save gas and just get the heater on the way home instead
> > of making a special trip.
> installed at the factory will leak out. Water heaters are notoriously
> hard to prime if the factory installed water gets out.
Thank you so much! Im, so glad I found your post, or I would have lost all my factory installed water!
TimR
You're going to revive a decades old thread, and miss the mandatory standard argument?
It's lined with window glass, if you tip it it might crack.
No way, it;s fiberglas, that;s what glass lined means.
No you;re a dummy. No you;re the dummy. Tec.