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At this rate Donald Trump will soon have the West Wing all to himself. Bad for him and even worse for the rest of us

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Bod

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Mar 12, 2018, 11:42:20 AM3/12/18
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Wait a second. Weren’t we told all would be OK with Donald Trump in the
Oval Office because there’d be enough grown-ups around him to keep him
in check? On taking the oath he had the cream of the crop of Republican
policy experts in Washington DC to choose from. Academics and wonks
aching to come out of eight years of Obama-induced hibernation.

Even at the start, it didn’t work out quite that way. Trump was elected
in part because he had made “expert” a derogatory term. Likewise
“establishment”, to which almost all the more obvious candidates for
positions in his West Wing clearly belonged. On top of that, he had
stamped his feet and ruled out hiring anyone who had not been supportive
of him during the campaign.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-will-have-west-wing-to-himself-inner-circle-exodus-lonely-oval-office-gary-cohn-a8248586.html
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Bod

trader_4

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Mar 12, 2018, 1:39:47 PM3/12/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 11:42:20 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
> Wait a second. Weren’t we told all would be OK with Donald Trump in the
> Oval Office because there’d be enough grown-ups around him to keep him
> in check? On taking the oath he had the cream of the crop of Republican
> policy experts in Washington DC to choose from. Academics and wonks
> aching to come out of eight years of Obama-induced hibernation.

That isn't true. There were a whole lot of very qualified people, people
with experience, who would have nothing to do with Trump. That started
with his campaign and it's one reason why instead of real qualified people
on foreign policy, he would up with Flynn, Carter Page, and George the
Greek. Look where that got him.

The notion that people around Trump could keep him under control was
a stupid concept. It was obvious on the campaign trail what he would
be like. People said, he'll stop the stupid antics, he'll be
presidential after the primary, it's just a show. Then they said he'd
straighten out after the election. Then they said he'd straighten out
after he took office. He's actually gotten worse. And sadly the same
people are actually ENCOURAGING his god awful behavior and stupidity.




>
> Even at the start, it didn’t work out quite that way. Trump was elected
> in part because he had made “expert” a derogatory term. Likewise
> “establishment”, to which almost all the more obvious candidates for
> positions in his West Wing clearly belonged. On top of that, he had
> stamped his feet and ruled out hiring anyone who had not been supportive
> of him during the campaign.

Yep, that's it. He thinks experience and knowledge are bad things,
better to get some morons like Carter Page, George the Greek, Bannon,
Miller and Kushner. And a whole lot of the experienced people will
not sign on to this shit show to be humiliated, embarrassed, held
responsible for it. After seeing how he's treated Sessions and
Tillerson, seeing the chaos, the revolving door, why would anyone
qualified get involved?


BurfordTJustice

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Mar 12, 2018, 3:36:42 PM3/12/18
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LOL

A socialist and a far left loon best ever butt buds.

You two should holiday together......

Wet dreams galore.....LOL




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taxpayer

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Mar 12, 2018, 4:14:24 PM3/12/18
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On 3/12/2018 1:39 PM, trader_4 wrote:
> blah blah blah
>
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-performance-in-trumps-first-year-was-second-only-to-fdr-2018-01-16

"When President Donald Trump celebrated the first anniversary of his inauguration on Saturday, U.S. stock-market investors had plenty to cheer along with him.

Market performance during Trump’s first year in office was a nonstop move higher. Major indexes hit a record number of records over 2017, a trend that has remained intact in the new year, and there has been basically nothing in the way of pullbacks or
volatility. The S&P 500 SPX, -0.13%  has gone a historic length of time without declining even 5%, a pullback that is historically very common.

See: Dow clears another bar to trade above 26,000 for first time

Gains on Wall Street were so big, in fact, that they stand as the best first-year return for a new president in decades.

In the year since Trump’s inauguration, the Dow Jones Industrial Average DJIA, -0.62%  rose 32.1%. That calculation covers the period from the close of trading on Jan. 19, 2017—the final trading day before his inauguration—and the close of trading on
Friday, Jan. 19, 2018. "


Ah, seems like he's doing a fine job to me.  You need to stop watching Chucklehead News Network.

trader_4

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Mar 12, 2018, 5:59:42 PM3/12/18
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And like I pointed out to that other trumpet, Mr. K, the other day, the Dow was up ~149% during Obama's presidency. Did you give him credit for doing a great job? And note Obama inherited an economic disaster, the worst recession since the 30s, one that could have turned into a depression. Trump inherited a growing economy that was doing fine. It actually added more jobs in Obama's last year than in trump's first year. Just the facts.

Uncle Monster

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Mar 12, 2018, 6:03:09 PM3/12/18
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Please Traitor_4ever, tell us how much better off the country, economy and military would be with your girl HITLERy Clinton as President and The Clinton Crime Family back in The White House. I'm sure it would be all butterflies and unicorns. I'm sure you believe it would be a Liberal Leftist Socialist paradise a lot like Venezuela. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Waiting Monster

Uncle Monster

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Mar 12, 2018, 6:18:35 PM3/12/18
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There are a lot of Trump Prosperity Deniers out there and Traitor_4ever is one of them. I voted for Donald Trump because there wasn't a place on the ballot that read:"FUCK NO! NOT HITLERY CLINTON!" Donald Trump was the ONLY candidate who could keep HITLERy Clinton and The Clinton Crime Family out of The White House for good. He's hated by the Liberal Leftist news media because he's not Politically Correct, he calls the baby ugly and he's not a homosexual like our last President. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Observant Monster

trader_4

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Mar 12, 2018, 6:32:12 PM3/12/18
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Your ability to lie and spin is unlimited. Someone claimed that the DOW went up 40% with Trump in office. All I did was point out that it was actually ~32% and ask if he also gives credit to Obama for the DOW going up 149% during the time he was in office. And that's Trump prosperity denial?

Uncle Monster

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Mar 12, 2018, 9:08:20 PM3/12/18
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Wow, a Hysterical Howling Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Moonbat Freak Politically Correct Trans Intellectual Anthropogenic Climate Chaos Weasel Obama Worshiping HITLERy Clinton Supporter called me a liar! I feel honored! "Liberalism is a mental disorder." - Dr. Michael Savage

[8~{} Uncle Savage Monster

Clare Snyder

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Mar 12, 2018, 10:47:19 PM3/12/18
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Back to 25200-ish today.

ZZyXX

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Mar 13, 2018, 2:17:48 PM3/13/18
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A typical case of Obama derangement syndrome. Reptards always pivot to
Obama or Hillary when they have no way to defend Trump. It's the
first sign of defeat.

angelica...@yahoo.com

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Mar 14, 2018, 6:18:56 AM3/14/18
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:14:24 PM UTC-4, taxpayer wrote:
Has anybody ever mentioned that there's more to the economy than the stock
market?

Cindy Hamilton

rbowman

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Mar 14, 2018, 9:14:16 AM3/14/18
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Nobody in the MSM. Speculation, arbitrage, and usury is the real
economy, not, you know, making stuff. Stuff is boring and there's no
money in it. Making stuff is so 1950.


Clare Snyder

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Mar 14, 2018, 10:56:10 AM3/14/18
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 07:14:41 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
The "economy" based on "not making things" is the "fake economy"

trader_4

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Mar 14, 2018, 11:00:51 AM3/14/18
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Yes, they told Trump that there is also job creation. That's why Trump
decided to include two months worth of Obama's stats into his own so
that he could falsely inflate his numbers and claim he created more
jobs. Trump was running around
claiming how many jobs he created since "the election". That gives him
an extra two months worth that were on Obama's watch. Without those,
Trump actually created slightly less jobs in his first year in office
than Obama did in 2016.

BurfordTJustice

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Mar 14, 2018, 11:34:52 AM3/14/18
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To quote trader, " you are talking out your ass now"





"trader_4" <tra...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 6:18:56 AM UTC-4, angelica...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 4:14:24 PM UTC-4, taxpayer wrote:
> > On 3/12/2018 1:39 PM, trader_4 wrote:
> > > blah blah blah
> > >
> > https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-performance-in-trumps-first-year-was-second-only-to-fdr-2018-01-16
> >
> > "When President Donald Trump celebrated the first anniversary of his
> > inauguration on Saturday, U.S. stock-market investors had plenty to
> > cheer along with him.
> >
> > Market performance during Trump's first year in office was a nonstop
> > move higher. Major indexes hit a record number of records over 2017, a
> > trend that has remained intact in the new year, and there has been
> > basically nothing in the way of pullbacks or
> > volatility. The S&P 500 SPX, -0.13% has gone a historic length of time
> > without declining even 5%, a pullback that is historically very common.
> >
> > See: Dow clears another bar to trade above 26,000 for first time
> >
> > Gains on Wall Street were so big, in fact, that they stand as the best
> > first-year return for a new president in decades.
> >
> > In the year since Trump's inauguration, the Dow Jones Industrial Average
> > DJIA, -0.62% rose 32.1%. That calculation covers the period from the
> > close of trading on Jan. 19, 2017-the final trading day before his
> > inauguration-and the close of trading on

rbowman

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Mar 14, 2018, 9:35:59 PM3/14/18
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When they started touting the 'service economy' in the late '70s I
figured we we truly screwed. Having an engineering background I like to
make things even if it's only software these days. I don't have a lot of
use for the FIRE sector.

Clare Snyder

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Mar 14, 2018, 11:55:37 PM3/14/18
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 19:36:24 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
It'll burn you every time.
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