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Jennifer

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Aug 18, 2017, 7:44:10 AM8/18/17
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Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working again.
The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the original
refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He suggested us to
change to whole coil. What does it mean?

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Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Aug 18, 2017, 8:54:33 AM8/18/17
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On 8/18/2017 4:44 AM, Jennifer wrote:
> Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working again. The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the original
> refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He suggested us to
> change to whole coil. What does it mean?

Literally? It means it's time to buy a new refer, ya cheap bitch.
LOL


cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Aug 18, 2017, 9:30:50 AM8/18/17
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 11:44:06 GMT, Jennifer
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote:

>Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working again.
>The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the original
>refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He suggested us to
>change to whole coil. What does it mean?
You don't "weld" copper - you braze it - and it is pretty simple.
You can also solder copper - which is a lot easier - but is not
recommended (or possibly even allowed) for refrigeration lines.

David

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Aug 18, 2017, 9:33:37 AM8/18/17
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that's what I'll do

trader_4

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Aug 18, 2017, 9:40:42 AM8/18/17
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It probably means it's time to buy a new refrigerator, assuming it's just a
typical fridge that's $1000 or so. Again, a lot of missing information,
like how old, how much, etc. It sounds like he's saying that for some
reason the brazing in of the new compressor is leaking because of the
copper tubing. I don't understand that, I thought any parts of anything
that needed to be brazed were always copper and still are. When an
average fridge needs a new compressor, unless it's under warranty,
it's probably time for a new fridge. If it's 20 years old, it's a no
brainer.

rbowman

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Aug 18, 2017, 10:04:19 AM8/18/17
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On 08/18/2017 05:44 AM, Jennifer wrote:
> Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working
> again. The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the
> original
> refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He suggested
> us to
> change to whole coil. What does it mean?

You have to watch those leaks. Freiburg is very dangerous and will kill
your pets.

Ed Pawlowski

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Aug 18, 2017, 10:26:04 AM8/18/17
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On 8/18/2017 7:44 AM, Jennifer wrote:
> Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working
> again. The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the
> original
> refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He suggested
> us to
> change to whole coil. What does it mean?

Never heard of a Freiburg leak. What does it mean? It means you will
pay a lot of money for a half ass repair by an incompetent tech.

Copper repairs are some of the easiest to do. Years ago i was the
supervisor of a department that made heating and cooling coils of many
types and we did thousands of joints a day, all copper as it is so
simple to work with and does the job well.

Cut you losses and look for a new fridge.

TimR

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Aug 18, 2017, 10:47:42 AM8/18/17
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On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 10:26:04 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> >
>
> Never heard of a Freiburg leak. What does it mean? It means you will
> pay a lot of money for a half ass repair by an incompetent tech.
>

Autocorrect, she meant Freon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlA1QHYReHI



Stormin' Norman

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Aug 18, 2017, 10:49:45 AM8/18/17
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:25:58 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

>Never heard of a Freiburg leak.

Typo, "freon leak".


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Aug 18, 2017, 11:44:43 AM8/18/17
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You can't enter into any agreement whatsoever.
Which part of whatsoever is confusing?
LOL

David

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Aug 18, 2017, 11:47:26 AM8/18/17
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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in message
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you mean on the leak? it is confusing.

Doug Laidlaw

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Aug 18, 2017, 11:51:05 AM8/18/17
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At the temperatures used for welding, copper would melt. Brazing is
used, and soldering.

I have never heard of a Freiburg leak, and neither has Google. Google
doesn't say what "whole coil" means, either. It may be a newer
technology. I doubt if it could be retrofitted to the fridge
economically. I agree that a new fridge would be the answer.

[My 1980's model car still has CFC air conditioning. CFC can be put
back IF it is available. A changeover would mean a whole new unit, not
worthwhile on such an old auto.]


Doug.

David

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Aug 18, 2017, 12:08:42 PM8/18/17
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"Doug Laidlaw" wrote in message news:on72d1$2ai$1...@gioia.aioe.org...
ok that seems good thanks

Phil

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Aug 18, 2017, 12:17:40 PM8/18/17
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On 08/18/2017 07:44 AM, Jennifer wrote:
> Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working again. The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the original
> refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He suggested us to
> change to whole coil. What does it mean?


If you don't mind my asking, how much did it cost to replace the compressor?


And how much will it cost to replace the coil?


How old is the refrigerator?


How much did the refrigerator cost new?

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Aug 18, 2017, 12:24:19 PM8/18/17
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Yer brain is leaky.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Aug 18, 2017, 12:25:17 PM8/18/17
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Doug, these wannabe handydudes don't know shit from Shinola.
LOL

Jose

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Aug 18, 2017, 12:29:49 PM8/18/17
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On 8/18/2017 12:08 PM, David wrote:
> At the temperatures used for welding, copper would melt.

Well Duh! The definition of welding IS melting the base metals together.

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David

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Aug 18, 2017, 3:20:21 PM8/18/17
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thanks, I appreciate it.

Tekkie®

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Aug 18, 2017, 4:28:25 PM8/18/17
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Jennifer posted for all of us...
We need more details as others have stated.

The tech could have caused this problem while replacing the compressor.
Copper is easy to braze (weld) - even I can do it. I suspect the tech does
not want to do the job. Query him why this happened. I am suspicious... Is
this repair being done by a 'home warranty' co?

The choices you have revolve around how old the unit is, what is really the
problem, how much is cost of repair vs a new refrigerator?

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cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Aug 18, 2017, 8:30:03 PM8/18/17
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:28:28 -0400, Tekkie® <Tek...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Brazing isn't welding. It is "hard soldering". You CAN brass weld
coPper, but it is not commonly done."Brass welding" or "braze welding"
involves melting the copper/brass base metal and adding filler rod
like in welding steel. Brazing, or hard soldering, melts the spelter
ONTO the joint - it does not melt it INTO the joint.

rbowman

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Aug 18, 2017, 10:23:52 PM8/18/17
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That one grand autocorrect -- the two words aren't even phonetically
similar.

rbowman

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Aug 18, 2017, 10:27:47 PM8/18/17
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On 08/18/2017 06:30 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> Brazing isn't welding. It is "hard soldering". You CAN brass weld
> coPper, but it is not commonly done."Brass welding" or "braze welding"
> involves melting the copper/brass base metal and adding filler rod
> like in welding steel. Brazing, or hard soldering, melts the spelter
> ONTO the joint - it does not melt it INTO the joint.

If you're good... Often the melting point of the filler and the base
metal aren't that far apart; if you're not good you wind up with a messy
little puddle.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Aug 19, 2017, 8:16:42 AM8/19/17
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Like I appreciate Jennifer in a micro minnie, black stiletto heels, with a lolly stuck in her gob.
Now that really tinkles my doorbell, son.



David

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Aug 19, 2017, 8:42:52 AM8/19/17
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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in message news:KxElB.40$po2...@fx36.iad...
it would have newer technology


David

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Aug 19, 2017, 9:03:10 AM8/19/17
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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in message
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got compressor. hi. I have a buger on my fema that's not mine. probably not
a germ here. Thanks.



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Aug 19, 2017, 10:47:15 AM8/19/17
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how freakin 60's can you get

Tekkie®

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Aug 19, 2017, 2:01:27 PM8/19/17
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cl...@snyder.on.ca posted for all of us...
Thanks, I appreciate the education.

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 05:54:32 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; ""Colonel Edmund J.
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>On 8/18/2017 4:44 AM, Jennifer wrote:
>>Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working
>>again. The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the
>>original refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He
>>suggested us to change to whole coil. What does it mean?
>
>Literally? It means it's time to buy a new refer, ya cheap bitch. LOL

maybe the nice man can vaporise her copper coil with a welder instead of soldering it, then?

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Terry Coombs

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Aug 19, 2017, 10:20:20 PM8/19/17
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  But you're wrong Doug . They do make kits to convert R12 systems over
to R134a . Includes a flush to clean all the old compressor oil out of
the system , new receiver/dryer , orifice tube , PAG oil and the
refrigerant .

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trader_4

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Aug 19, 2017, 11:41:16 PM8/19/17
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Agree. Not sure what that has to do with the ladies fridge, but I had
my 1980 MB 300SD converted to 134a a long time ago. Not sure if it
made sense now or not. At the time R12 was going through the roof
and I needed work done anyway. After that it went back down in price
for awhile at least and was still available. Not sure what's going
on today.

Terry Coombs

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Aug 20, 2017, 6:52:24 AM8/20/17
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  For all intents and purposes R12 is unavailable now in the USA . R22
is still out there , but very expensive . I'm not sure about any of the
refrigerant gasses newer than 134a but it is still available at most
auto parts places - and of course Walmart .

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Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Aug 20, 2017, 12:26:57 PM8/20/17
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On 8/19/2017 12:49 PM, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 05:54:32 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; ""Colonel Edmund J.
> Burke" <burke...@std-girls.com>" determined that the following was
> of great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us
> in <7sBlB.543$Pn2...@fx37.iad>:
>
>> On 8/18/2017 4:44 AM, Jennifer wrote:
>>> Our refrigerator got compressor replaced in Feb. Now it's not working
>>> again. The technician now says there is Freiburg leak and because the
>>> original refrigerator had copper tubing, it's difficult to weld,. He
>>> suggested us to change to whole coil. What does it mean?
>>
>> Literally? It means it's time to buy a new refer, ya cheap bitch. LOL
>
> maybe the nice man can vaporise her copper coil with a welder instead of soldering it, then?
>

You call him a man?
Speaking of vaporization, seen the latest on StarTrek?

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