OT RIP Wayne Rogers, Trapper John on 'M*A*S*H*,' dies at 82

[Oren]

"LOS ANGELES – Wayne Rogers, whose Trapper John McIntyre alongside
Alan Alda's Hawkeye Pierce brought mischief, martinis and meatball
surgery to the masses in the 1970s every week on "M.A.S.H.," has died.

The actor was surrounded by family when he died Thursday in Los
Angeles of complications from pneumonia at age 82, his publicist and
longtime friend Rona Menashe told The Associated Press."

... I'll miss his remarks about business in today's climate.

<http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/12/31/wayne-rogers-trapper-john-on-mash-dies-at-82/?intcmp=hpbt4>

[Uncle Monster]

I heard it on the news last year, a little over 2 hours ago. I liked Wayne Rogers and am sad to see him go but I didn't realize how old he was.(⌣́_⌣̀)

[8~{} Uncle Sad Monster

[Eagle]

Oren was thinking very hard :

Wayne Rodgers was one of My favorites in the TV series 'M.A.S.H.' The
other being McLean Stevenson.

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

Did you fuck his mom, too?

[>>>Ashton Crusher]

On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 07:25:37 -0800, "Eagle" <tomorr...@earth.cog>
wrote:

It wouldn't seem like make believe characters would be "real" enough
that you would be affected when they die but I recall when Stevenson
decided to leave the show they wrote him out by having him die in a
plane crash. I recall how sad I felt when Radar reported to Hawkeye
and the others how "his plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan and
there were no survivors".

[Micky]

Maybe it reminded you about real people who die in real wars?

The next line was "They spun in." It was the only line in the show
that struck me as out of place. Unneeded maybe. Awkward. Did
anyone else react the same way.

That was my reaction every time I saw that episode or segment.

[Eagle]

>>>Ashton Crusher presented the following explanation :

That episode of Colonel Henry Blake going home and being shot down was
a real tear jerker. I always got a smile watching His sense of humor on
screen. :/

[Frank]

I had seen him and liked his financial savvy on FOX. He did look a
little off on a recent show. I'll miss him too.

[thekma...@gmail.com]

RIP to a funny member of the 4077 cast. Reminded me
looks-wise a little of Will Farrell.

Question: Was Rogers (1)replaced by, (2)did he replace,
or (3)was he supplanted by the hippie looking assistant
surgeon "BJ" - the one with the wavy haircut and mustache?

I never see both in MASH cast group photos - only the
one or the other.

[Stormin Mormon]

On 1/2/2016 8:48 AM, Eagle wrote:
>>>> Ashton Crusher presented the following explanation :

>> It wouldn't seem like make believe characters would be "real" enough
>> that you would be affected when they die but I recall when Stevenson
>> decided to leave the show they wrote him out by having him die in a
>> plane crash. I recall how sad I felt when Radar reported to Hawkeye
>> and the others how "his plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan and
>> there were no survivors".
>
> That episode of Colonel Henry Blake going home and being shot down was a
> real tear jerker. I always got a smile watching His sense of humor on
> screen. :/

I remember Blake being shot down. Not as clear
memory about what happened to Trapper. I did a
look on Wikepedia, but didn't find the answer.

How was Trapper's exit?

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[Eagle]

Stormin Mormon explained :

Trapper left because he was discharged and he never had a final
episode.

[thekma...@gmail.com]

Also, 'trapper' is a nickname for a doctor, but
there are zero resources on line explaining its
origin.

[Stormin Mormon]

If you read the original MASH novel, it was explained there.

[thekma...@gmail.com]

Stormin! Found this after some ferocious key
tapping:

https://www.quora.com/How-did-Trapper-John-from-MASH-get-his-nickname

So it was unique to this character, and not to Drs in general.
It would not be prudent for me to refer to my family physician
as 'trapper', LOLOLOL!

[FrozenNorth]

Different character entirely, Trapper was discharged from the army, and
BJ was his replacement, as they needed a new doctor.

--
Froz...

Quando omni flunkus, moritati

[thekma...@gmail.com]

1:16 PMFrozenNorth:

I know. Just two separate issues I was trying
to seek answers to. Thanks for all your help!

[Micky]

On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:15:54 -0800, "Eagle" <tomorr...@earth.cog>
wrote:

Right. The first episode of the next season had Hawkeye running all
over the place trying to catch him before he left each step of his
trip home, up to the airport at ?Kim Cho?

[Micky]

When Hawkeye got the airport trying to catch up to to Trapper to say
good-bye, Trapper had left, but BJ had arrived. So they went to the
Officer's Club, got drunk, and Hawkeye stole a jeep to get back to the
4077th. By the time BJ arrived, instead of the spit and polish guy
who landed, he was another derelict.

[Micky]

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 09:50:44 -0800 (PST), thekma...@gmail.com wrote:

>Stormin! Found this after some ferocious key
>tapping:
>
>https://www.quora.com/How-did-Trapper-John-from-MASH-get-his-nickname

Does this ask everyone to pick 10 categories for them to send me spam
about?

[Oren]

On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 09:17:55 -0500, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:

>> ... I'll miss his remarks about business in today's climate.
>>
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/12/31/wayne-rogers-trapper-john-on-mash-dies-at-82/?intcmp=hpbt4>
>>
>
>I had seen him and liked his financial savvy on FOX. He did look a
>little off on a recent show. I'll miss him too.

Last time I saw him on Bulls and Bears, on FOX, I did notice he slowed
down. He could spin the liberals in circles. They would start to
studder :)

[>>>Ashton Crusher]

On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 03:17:08 -0500, Micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com>

wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 21:09:51 -0700, ">>>Ashton Crusher"
><de...@moore.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Jan 2016 07:25:37 -0800, "Eagle" <tomorr...@earth.cog>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Oren was thinking very hard :
>>>> "LOS ANGELES – Wayne Rogers, whose Trapper John McIntyre alongside
>>>> Alan Alda's Hawkeye Pierce brought mischief, martinis and meatball
>>>> surgery to the masses in the 1970s every week on "M.A.S.H.," has died.
>>>>
>>>> The actor was surrounded by family when he died Thursday in Los
>>>> Angeles of complications from pneumonia at age 82, his publicist and
>>>> longtime friend Rona Menashe told The Associated Press."
>>>>
>>>> ... I'll miss his remarks about business in today's climate.
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/12/31/wayne-rogers-trapper-john-on-mash-dies-at-82/?intcmp=hpbt4>
>>>
>>>Wayne Rodgers was one of My favorites in the TV series 'M.A.S.H.' The
>>>other being McLean Stevenson.
>>
>>It wouldn't seem like make believe characters would be "real" enough
>>that you would be affected when they die but I recall when Stevenson
>>decided to leave the show they wrote him out by having him die in a
>>plane crash. I recall how sad I felt when Radar reported to Hawkeye
>>and the others how "his plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan and
>>there were no survivors".
>
>Maybe it reminded you about real people who die in real wars?

No, it just seemed more personal then something like a ww2 documentary
which also reminds one of all the real people who died.

>
>The next line was "They spun in." It was the only line in the show
>that struck me as out of place. Unneeded maybe. Awkward. Did
>anyone else react the same way.
>
>That was my reaction every time I saw that episode or segment.

I would say it seemed unneeded. They were shot down, did it matter if
they "spun in" or if they "blew up"? Maybe it did but like you I
thought that in the context of the show I didn't see the need to add
it to the prior line. Maybe I"m recalling it out of order. It might
have been "They were shot down over the sea of Japan". "They spun
in." "There were no survivors". Even that was it's not really needed
but someone might have thought making it longer added to the suspense.

[>>>Ashton Crusher]

On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:14:55 -0500, Micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

Anyone know off the top of their head why he left and was replaced?
Contract dispute? Tired of the part? Amicable or hostile?

[Frank]

Hard to tell on TV when they are just sitting there and well made up.
I think it was the show before the last one where I thought he looked
kinda washed out. Saw part of Bulls and Bears today where they only had
3 panelists without him and did not note any mention of him.

[Stormin Mormon]

IIRC it was in the toilet car of the Boston and Maine RR.

If a physician knows the source of that nick name,
he or she might be offended. Or complimented.

I'd not want to try and find out.

[Stormin Mormon]

Rogers / Trapper was in the earlier seasons. He
left the show. BJ / Farrell was a replacement.

BJ arrived during the Burns and Houlihan years.
Some time after BJ arrival, Burns left, and
Winchester arrived.

--

[DerbyDad03]

I don't recall if it was hostile, but it may not have been necessarily
amicle either.

I did find this in one of the reports about his death. He may have just
decide to move on for "creative reasons".

"McIntyre was on "M.A.S.H." from 1972 to 1975, becoming one of many
original cast members to leave the wildly popular show that went on until
1983. He was initially considered for Alda's character, but he preferred
Trapper's sunnier disposition to Hawkeye's darkly acerbic personality.

The characters were essentially equals when the show began, but it
increasingly focused on Alda, which was a factor in Rogers' departure"

[Micky]

I got tired of it being so much about Hawkeye. There were a couple
whole episodes entirely about him, and many others were too much about
him. Other good sitcoms don't show such a transition in focus (The
West Wing was supposed to be about the West Wing, with the President
not having a big role, but even after he had a big role, he didn't
overshadow the rest of the cast to the extent that hawkeye did, or it
didnt' bother me. )

In addition, he use to be in the supply room with a different girl
every week. and at some point they cut that out. Now actually I think
there is far too much sex in today's sitcoms -- in fact some shows
more than half of the jokes are about sex and most of them are
stuuuupid --, but MASH made funny jokes, which gave them a lot more
leeway imo. It even made the adultery with hotlips tolerable. But
then they cut out Hawkeye's carousing almost entirely (and iirc years
later cut out the adultery.)

My impression is that they don't rerun the early episodes with hawkeye
in the supply tent.

[Stormin Mormon]

On 1/3/2016 1:38 AM, Micky wrote:
>
> I got tired of it being so much about Hawkeye. There were a couple
> whole episodes entirely about him, and many others were too much about
> him.

Agree. I didn't like the "all about Hawkeye"
episodes.

And, likely more than one of those all about
Hawkeye episodes. I liked it more when they
went from one person to another, and there were
more than one thing going on in camp.

[Micky]

Oh, yeah. If it werent' for the cast change, they probably would have
continued the adultery.

[Stormin Mormon]

On 1/2/2016 4:14 PM, Micky wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:15:54 -0800, "Eagle" <tomorr...@earth.cog>
> wrote:
>
>> Stormin Mormon explained :

>>> How was Trapper's exit?
>>
>> Trapper left because he was discharged and he never had a final
>> episode.
>
> Right. The first episode of the next season had Hawkeye running all
> over the place trying to catch him before he left each step of his
> trip home, up to the airport at ?Kim Cho?
>

IIRC, Hawkeye was off base, probably chasing
women. Trapper stayed as long as he could. Hawk
missed him by ten minutes.

And then BJ arrives at the base, well oiled, and
filled in on some of the local dynamics.

"So, how you doing, ferret face?"

[Eagle]

on 1/4/2016, Stormin Mormon supposed :

He looked better without the nose hare.

After Major Burns left, The snob Charles Winchester III took his place
and the show took a left turn. Then Radar left, and Klinger took HIS
place. He did an excelent job in Radars place IMO.

[Oren]

Frank,

Cavuto does a remembrance... <https://tinyurl.com/z4y6buv>

[>>>Ashton Crusher]

On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 01:38:25 -0500, Micky <NONONO...@bigfoot.com>

It was a great show but I did get a bit tired of so much Hawkeye and
some of the too overt preachiness. It followed a similar trajectory
of many sitcoms where they start off somewhat out of the box (like the
sex in the storeroom) and as they "mature" their characters they also
lose some of the edginess they started with.

[>>>Ashton Crusher]

On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 07:26:18 -0500, Stormin Mormon
<cayo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/3/2016 1:38 AM, Micky wrote:
>>
>> I got tired of it being so much about Hawkeye. There were a couple
>> whole episodes entirely about him, and many others were too much about
>> him.
>
>Agree. I didn't like the "all about Hawkeye"
>episodes.
>
>And, likely more than one of those all about
>Hawkeye episodes. I liked it more when they
>went from one person to another, and there were
>more than one thing going on in camp.

Col Flag epis were always fun.

[Unquestionably Confused]

Almost forgot about him. Everyone in camp seemed to enjoy making him
out as the horse's ass that he was. Good laughs.

Same with Frank Burns and Winchester. Burns was an idiot and Winchester
had a broom handle up his ass, but was more cerebral. The pranks with
Winchester were more interesting and less "slapstick."