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nestork

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Apr 21, 2013, 3:03:28 PM4/21/13
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Finally...

I buy a lot of stuff online, and much of it comes from the USA. To save
money I broker those imports across the border myself, and the PITA I've
had to deal with until now is that while the CBSA (Canada Border
Security Agency) has the forms I need available as downloadable fillable
PDF forms on their web site, I can't save those forms after filling them
out. Not unless I pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. If I find out I've made
a mistake on a form after closing Adobe Reader, I have to fill out the
whole form over again. If I find out that I need to import more of
something, I have to fill out the same form with the same information
over again.

Adobe Reader XI is a freeware program released by Adobe just last
February that allows fillable PDF's to be saved. Don't bend over to
kiss Adobe's feet because the only reason why they did that was because
other freeware programs like Nitro Reader 3 and PDF-XChanger already had
that feature and were increasing in popularity. Adobe is more wanting
to crush these upstart software companies than give that feature away
free.

(By the way, Nitro Reader 3 allows you to extract text and graphics in
PDF forms and save them in various word processor and graphic image
formats, including Word and JPG or BMP files.) I don't know if Adobe
Reader XI does that or not.)

You can download Adobe Reader XI from any download site like Tucows or
CNET, but those sites simply transfer you to Adobe's web site, where
downloading results in Reader XI being installed on the computer you're
sitting in front of. And, if you're on dial-up like me, that can take
forever.

A better way to do it is to go to Freewarefiles.com where you can
download the installation program itself onto a CD or flash memory card.
That way, you can go to any internet cafe or restaurant with WIFI where
you have access to high speed internet, and download the installation
file in a few minutes onto a flash memory drive, and then install Reader
XI onto your computer from the flash memory drive. Proceed as follows:

1. Go to: 'Freeware Files - Free Software Downloads'
(http://www.freewarefiles.com/)
2. on the left side, click on the "Business/Organize" link
3. click on the "PDF Readers / PDF Tools" link
4. click on the "Adobe Reader 11.0.02" link (or find the Nitro Reader 3
program and click on it. It's a handy little program, too.)
5. click on the "Download Now" link.
(You might have to register as a user on the Freeware Files web site.
It's free, tho. You just have to wait for e-mail confirmation.)

That will download the installation program to the path of your choice
so that you can save a copy of the installation file for quick
installations on other computers.

You can run the Reader XI installation program without removing any old
versions of Adobe Acrobat Reader. The intallation program anticipates
the presence of an older version and will just change/update what you've
already got.

I just got home and edited some fillable PDF's to check that Reader XI
saves fillable PDF's and it does.

Finally.




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nestork

NJOracle

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Apr 21, 2013, 3:33:02 PM4/21/13
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Adobe Reader X (10.1.6) will also save a fill-in pdf

tra...@optonline.net

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Apr 21, 2013, 3:38:19 PM4/21/13
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On Apr 21, 3:03 pm, nestork <nestork.bb9f...@diybanter.com> wrote:
> Finally...
>
> I buy a lot of stuff online, and much of it comes from the USA.  To save
> money I broker those imports across the border myself, and the PITA I've
> had to deal with until now is that while the CBSA (Canada Border
> Security Agency) has the forms I need available as downloadable fillable
> PDF forms on their web site, I can't save those forms after filling them
> out.  Not unless I pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat.  If I find out I've made
> a mistake on a form after closing Adobe Reader, I have to fill out the
> whole form over again.  If I find out that I need to import more of
> something, I have to fill out the same form with the same information
> over again.
>
> Adobe Reader XI is a freeware program released by Adobe just last
> February that allows fillable PDF's to be saved.


OK, so which is it? First you claimed that you can't save
the forms unless you pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. Now
you claim that Adobe Reader XI is free and it allows you to save the
forms. Which is it?



> Don't bend over to
> kiss Adobe's feet because the only reason why they did that was because
> other freeware programs like Nitro Reader 3 and PDF-XChanger already had
> that feature and were increasing in popularity.  Adobe is more wanting
> to crush these upstart software companies than give that feature away
> free.
>

Apparently in your world businesses just provide products
for free...... Adobe actually gives a LOT of stuff away, including
apparently
what you need. So, you were lyingabove. But Adobe is still
evil.... Go figure.




> (By the way, Nitro Reader 3 allows you to extract text and graphics in
> PDF forms and save them in various word processor and graphic image
> formats, including Word and JPG or BMP files.)  I don't know if Adobe
> Reader XI does that or not.)
>
> You can download Adobe Reader XI from any download site like Tucows or
> CNET, but those sites simply transfer you to Adobe's web site, where
> downloading results in Reader XI being installed on the computer you're
> sitting in front of.

Wow! Now that's surprising. You go to download and install a program
from
a website, agree to do so, and the result is the program is installed
on the computer
you;re sitting in front of? Who would ever expect that?

And if Nitro does what you want, why don't you just use it
and stop bitching about Adobe?



> And, if you're on dial-up like me, that can take
> forever.

I see, so now, not only is it not good enough that Adobe has a free
product that does what you want, it's their fault because you're on
dial-up and it takes a long time to download. I guess all download
files,
programs, etc should be limited to say 300K, circa 1990 because
you're
still on dial-up.



>
> A better way to do it is to go to Freewarefiles.com where you can
> download the installation program itself onto a CD or flash memory card.
> That way, you can go to any internet cafe or restaurant with WIFI where
> you have access to high speed internet, and download the installation
> file in a few minutes onto a flash memory drive, and then install Reader
> XI onto your computer from the flash memory drive.

Yeah, they should accomodate that method because there are soooo
many folks like you that want to do it that way.........

Go figure.....

Here;s a hint. Next time you get your little pecker stuck in the PC,
don't
take it out on Adobe and go on the internet and make an ass of
yourself.....


Rest of stupidity deleted.

k...@attt.bizz

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Apr 21, 2013, 7:00:50 PM4/21/13
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:03:28 +0200, nestork
<nestork...@diybanter.com> wrote:

>
>Finally...
>
>I buy a lot of stuff online, and much of it comes from the USA. To save
>money I broker those imports across the border myself, and the PITA I've
>had to deal with until now is that while the CBSA (Canada Border
>Security Agency) has the forms I need available as downloadable fillable
>PDF forms on their web site, I can't save those forms after filling them
>out. Not unless I pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. If I find out I've made
>a mistake on a form after closing Adobe Reader, I have to fill out the
>whole form over again. If I find out that I need to import more of
>something, I have to fill out the same form with the same information
>over again.

PDF Creator.

>Adobe Reader XI is a freeware program released by Adobe just last
>February that allows fillable PDF's to be saved. Don't bend over to
>kiss Adobe's feet because the only reason why they did that was because
>other freeware programs like Nitro Reader 3 and PDF-XChanger already had
>that feature and were increasing in popularity. Adobe is more wanting
>to crush these upstart software companies than give that feature away
>free.

So what? You're whining because Adobe is now forced to compete with
freeware? How dumb is that?!

>(By the way, Nitro Reader 3 allows you to extract text and graphics in
>PDF forms and save them in various word processor and graphic image
>formats, including Word and JPG or BMP files.) I don't know if Adobe
>Reader XI does that or not.)

SO USE IT! <sheesh!>

>You can download Adobe Reader XI from any download site like Tucows or
>CNET, but those sites simply transfer you to Adobe's web site, where
>downloading results in Reader XI being installed on the computer you're
>sitting in front of. And, if you're on dial-up like me, that can take
>forever.

SO DON'T USE IT! <sheesh!>

>A better way to do it is to go to Freewarefiles.com where you can
>download the installation program itself onto a CD or flash memory card.
>That way, you can go to any internet cafe or restaurant with WIFI where
>you have access to high speed internet, and download the installation
>file in a few minutes onto a flash memory drive, and then install Reader
>XI onto your computer from the flash memory drive. Proceed as follows:

You're going to install it on someone else's computer?

<instructions snipped>

>I just got home and edited some fillable PDF's to check that Reader XI
>saves fillable PDF's and it does.
>
>Finally.

Amazing rant.

nestork

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Apr 21, 2013, 6:25:19 PM4/21/13
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'tra...@optonline.net[_2_ Wrote:
> ;3050597']
> OK, so which is it? First you claimed that you can't save
> the forms unless you pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. Now
> you claim that Adobe Reader XI is free and it allows you to save the
> forms. Which is it?
>



Go back and re-read it.

Adobe Acrobat, which allows you to create PDF files, costs $300.

Adobe Acrobat Reader XI, which allows you to read PDF files, is free.




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nestork

nestork

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Apr 21, 2013, 7:42:29 PM4/21/13
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k...@attt.bizz;3050700 Wrote:
>
> You're going to install it on someone else's computer?
>

Go back and reread it.

I explained that I am on dial-up on both of my home office computers.

But, I also have a lap top, and when connected to any WIFI network I can
download at 40 times the rate I can on dial-up. But, downloading onto
my laptop does me little good cuz I do most of my paper work in my home
office.

So, I go where there's free WIFI (like Starbucks) and download the
installation program with my laptop onto a memory stick.

Then I install the program onto my home office computers from the memory
stick.

Having Adobe's download manager install Reader XI on the computer I'm
sitting in front of does me little good.

The instructions I gave allow me to get around that problem. Other
people in here might want the installation program too.




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nestork

Frank

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Apr 21, 2013, 8:44:57 PM4/21/13
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You can create pdf files on free programs like Open Office. MS Word
does it too but why buy it when Open Office functions the same.

You can convert pdf files to docs with a site like this one:

http://www.pdftoword.com/

You upload the pdf and they email you the doc. No cost, no extra
software needed.

Do what you want with the doc and convert back to pdf.

I used to have to buy Adobe Acrobat and often had to buy upgrades.
They were very niggardly on supplying patches for new Windows versions.
I don't mind buying software, just get tired of having to pay for it
forever.

Tony Hwang

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Apr 21, 2013, 11:53:32 PM4/21/13
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Hi,
You just wrote an insstruction for yourself, LOL! Where do you live?
Dial up is only thing you can have? Is that rotary dial?

ChairMan

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Apr 22, 2013, 12:04:27 AM4/22/13
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thats what I was thinking, he either lives in the boonies
and doesn't have access to anything else or just to cheap
to spring for broadband.
If he's working from home, he could write it off. I do


CRNG

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Apr 22, 2013, 5:22:06 AM4/22/13
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:04:27 -0500, "ChairMan" <nos...@thanks.com>
wrote in <jF2dt.80179$%H.1...@fed08.iad> Re Re: OT - Saving fillable
PDF forms:

>> You just wrote an insstruction for yourself, LOL! Where
>> do you live?
>> Dial up is only thing you can have? Is that rotary dial?
>
>thats what I was thinking, he either lives in the boonies
>and doesn't have access to anything else or just to cheap
>to spring for broadband.
>If he's working from home, he could write it off. I do
>

North America is a third world country when it come to high speed
Internet access. In the U.S., if you live in a rural area, just
getting a dial tone on a phone line is a minor miracle.

tra...@optonline.net

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Apr 22, 2013, 8:09:50 AM4/22/13
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On Apr 21, 6:25 pm, nestork <nestork.bba2...@diybanter.com> wrote:
> 'trad...@optonline.net[_2_ Wrote:
>
> > ;3050597']
> > OK, so which is it?  First you claimed that you can't save
> > the forms unless you pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat.  Now
> > you claim that Adobe Reader XI is  free and it allows you to save the
> > forms.  Which is it?
>
> Go back and re-read it.

I did and here's what you posted:

A- " I can't save those forms after filling them
out. Not unless I pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. "

B - "Adobe Reader XI is a freeware program released by Adobe just
last
February that allows fillable PDF's to be saved. "



>
> Adobe Acrobat, which allows you to create PDF files, costs $300.
>
> Adobe Acrobat Reader XI, which allows you to read PDF files, is free.
>
> --
> nestork

And what you posted is exactly what I said. You said that Adobe
Reader XI,
which is free, allows you to SAVE fillable PDF's. That was what you
wanted to
do, was it not? To save forms that were filled in? Boy are you
confused.

Geez....

tra...@optonline.net

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Apr 22, 2013, 8:21:46 AM4/22/13
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You make it sound like it's unreasonable or unheard of for an online
software installation utility at a company's website to be set up to
install
said software on the PC you're currently using to access their
website.
Or that this is some problem unique to Adobe. It's not. Most of the
software that's available from companies online is settup so that it
installs on the PC in front of you.

Also, I don't see how your alleged procedure for getting around it
would work. When you go to a company's website to download and
install a program or software update, what typically happens is that
it downloads a relatively small executable file. That file starts
runnning
and it in turn downloads the rest of the files, which can be very
large
and installs them. So, I don't see how you're going to avoid that
process of downloading of the software to the actual PC
that's it's getting installed on. I think what you're confused over
is
that a lot of freeware comes in some neat compressed file where
you can download just that file. But that isn't how products like
Adobe Reader are distibuted or installed, not in my experience.

micky

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Apr 22, 2013, 11:27:11 AM4/22/13
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:33:02 -0400, NJOracle <njor...@invalid.domain>
wrote:

>
>> I just got home and edited some fillable PDF's to check that Reader XI
>> saves fillable PDF's and it does.
>>
>> Finally.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Adobe Reader X (10.1.6) will also save a fill-in pdf

So I'm told wil the freeware Open Office, if you download some free
add-on.

nestork

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Apr 22, 2013, 12:12:24 PM4/22/13
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'tra...@optonline.net[_2_ Wrote:
> ;3050950']On Apr 21, 6:25*pm, nestork nestork.bba2...@diybanter.com
> wrote:-
> 'trad...@optonline.net[_2_ Wrote:
> -
> ;3050597']
> OK, so which is it? *First you claimed that you can't save
> the forms unless you pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. *Now
> you claim that Adobe Reader XI is *free and it allows you to save the
> forms. *Which is it?-
>
> Go back and re-read it.-
>
> I did and here's what you posted:
>
> A- " I can't save those forms after filling them
> out. Not unless I pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. "
>
> B - "Adobe Reader XI is a freeware program released by Adobe just
> last
> February that allows fillable PDF's to be saved. "
>
>
> -
>
> Adobe Acrobat, which allows you to create PDF files, costs $300.
>
> Adobe Acrobat Reader XI, which allows you to read PDF files, is free.
>
> --
> nestork-
>
> And what you posted is exactly what I said. You said that Adobe
> Reader XI,
> which is free, allows you to SAVE fillable PDF's. That was what you
> wanted to
> do, was it not? To save forms that were filled in? Boy are you
> confused.
>
> Geez....

Adobe
_ACROBAT[/]_costs_about_$300_and_allows_you_to_create_PDF_files_using_text_and_graphics.__You_can_also_use_later_versions_of_it_to_create_\"Fillable_PDF\"_forms_which_allow_you_to_type_information_into_PDF_files_and_print_it_out_with_that_information_in_the_appropriate_places.__(just_like_filling_in_any_any_kind_of_form_or_putting_notes_on_a_drawing,_but_doing_it_with_the_keyboard_on_your_computer_instead_of_with_pen_in_hand)

Adobe_[U]READER_ is freeware that allow you to read PDF files. You can
also use the later versions of it to SAVE filled in PDF forms, so that
if you make a mistake, you can just go back and correct that mistake
instead of filling out the whole form all over again.

Until recently, I was unable to save fillable PDF forms because the
versions of READER that were available free to download didn't offer
that feature. You had to have the $300 Acrobat to save filled in PDF
forms. The latest versions of READER have that feature.

And, considering that was a major nuisance in my life, I thought I'd
post in here to let everyone else that found it to be a nuisance in
their lives know that a fix was now available.

If you still don't understand it, maybe get someone else to explain it
to you.

Until recently, in order to save




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nestork

k...@attt.bizz

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Apr 22, 2013, 12:24:24 PM4/22/13
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 04:22:06 -0500, CRNG <noe...@atthisdomain.gov>
wrote:
In some places, sure. However, there is *always* satellite. Why
should I pay for your Internet service if you choose to live in the
boonies?

ChairMan

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Apr 22, 2013, 12:44:21 PM4/22/13
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Although technically Canada is part of North America, home
gay tells us EVERYTHING is better in Canuckistan.
And if memory serves me right, nestork is in canuckistan


tra...@optonline.net

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Apr 22, 2013, 1:04:33 PM4/22/13
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On Apr 22, 12:12 pm, nestork <nestork.bbb1...@diybanter.com> wrote:
> _ACROBAT[/]_costs_about_$300_and_allows_you_to_create_PDF_files_using_text_­and_graphics.__You_can_also_use_later_versions_of_it_to_create_\"Fillable_P­DF\"_forms_which_allow_you_to_type_information_into_PDF_files_and_print_it_­out_with_that_information_in_the_appropriate_places.__(just_like_filling_in­_any_any_kind_of_form_or_putting_notes_on_a_drawing,_but_doing_it_with_the_­keyboard_on_your_computer_instead_of_with_pen_in_hand)
>
> Adobe_[U]READER_ is freeware that allow you to read PDF files.  You can
> also use the later versions of it to SAVE filled in PDF forms, so that
> if you make a mistake, you can just go back and correct that mistake
> instead of filling out the whole form all over again.
>
> Until recently, I was unable to save fillable PDF forms because the
> versions of READER that were available free to download didn't offer
> that feature.  You had to have the $300 Acrobat to save filled in PDF
> forms.  The latest versions of READER have that feature.


Well:

A - Who would know that from your post bitching about evil Adobe?

B - It's apparently free and available, so what are you bitching at
Adobe about?


>
> And, considering that was a major nuisance in my life, I thought I'd
> post in here to let everyone else that found it to be a nuisance in
> their lives know that a fix was now available.
>
> If you still don't understand it, maybe get someone else to explain it
> to you.
>


No such problem or beef here or I expect in 99% of the sane world.
And your "fix" IMO is BS, because most free versions of commercial
software expect you to be at the PC you are installing the software
at. In other words, you can't go down to Starbucks, download the
install stuff and take it back to another PC.

nestork

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Apr 22, 2013, 2:12:20 PM4/22/13
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'tra...@optonline.net[_2_ Wrote:
> In other words, you can't go down to Starbucks, download the install
> stuff and take it back to another PC.

Yes, you are correct. Normally Adobe's Download Manager will
automatically install the program on the computer you're sitting at, and
that causes me a problem BECAUSE I want to install it on a different
computer.

That's why I included the instructions:

-
1. Go to: Freeware Files - Free Software Downloads
2. on the left side, click on the "Business/Organize" link
3. click on the "PDF Readers / PDF Tools" link
4. click on the "Adobe Reader 11.0.02" link (or find the Nitro Reader 3
program and click on it. It's a handy little program, too.)
5. click on the "Download Now" link.
-

Which downloads READER XI's .EXE file to the path of your choice (such
as a memory stick or CD), SO THAT you can install the READER XI program
on any other computer(s) from that memory stick or CD.

If you don't believe me, try it yourself.

That's why I added:


I just got home from my favourite restaurant with WIFI, installed Reader
XI on my internet surfing computer and edited some fillable PDF's to
check that Reader XI saves fillable PDF's and it does. Now, I'll install
it on my business computer.




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nestork

denni...@gmail.com

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Apr 22, 2013, 3:23:10 PM4/22/13
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On Monday, April 22, 2013 12:12:24 PM UTC-4, nestork wrote:
> And, considering that was a major nuisance in my life, I thought I'd
> post in here to let everyone else that found it to be a nuisance in
> their lives know that a fix was now available.

...because this subject comes up ever so frequently on alt.home.repair, right?

Oren

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Apr 22, 2013, 4:48:19 PM4/22/13
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:12:24 +0200, nestork
<nestork...@diybanter.com> wrote:

>And, considering that was a major nuisance in my life, I thought I'd
>post in here to let everyone else that found it to be a nuisance in
>their lives know that a fix was now available.

Not a problem here. I do not live in Canuckistan!

Apache OpenOffice is free and will do what you want and more, plus,
it's free.

<http://www.openoffice.org/>

SMS

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Apr 22, 2013, 4:49:33 PM4/22/13
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On 4/21/2013 12:03 PM, nestork wrote:

<snip>

Nitro PDF is nice because it allows _non-fillable_ PDF forms to be
filled. You can add text and signatures anywhere on the PDF. Does the
new version of Adobe allow this?

Prior to Nitro Reader what I would do was to print the PDF to a JPEG
using PDF Creator (there is an option to print to a JPEG not just a PDF)
then I would open the JPEG in Paint and fill it in, then print it back
to a PDF.

Oliver Douglas

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Apr 22, 2013, 7:01:09 PM4/22/13
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On 4/22/2013 12:24 PM, k...@attt.bizz wrote:

>
> Why should I pay for your Internet service if you choose to live in the boonies?
>

Because that food you shove in your fat fucking selfish face every day comes from rural farms. Idiot!

Stormin Mormon

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Apr 22, 2013, 7:06:54 PM4/22/13
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We in the cities pay something called money for the crops farmers grow. I
don't see that our obligation includes internet service. Farmers can budget,
and buy their own internet service.
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
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k...@attt.bizz

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I pay for the food I eat, welfare queen.

nestork

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Apr 22, 2013, 6:37:39 PM4/22/13
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SMS:
I really haven't done anything using Reader XI since I downloaded it
except test to confirm that it does save fillable PDF's so I really
don't know if it offers those features or not.

Maybe download it and see.




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nestork

tra...@optonline.net

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Apr 23, 2013, 7:33:11 AM4/23/13
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On Apr 22, 2:12 pm, nestork <nestork.bbb3...@diybanter.com> wrote:
> 'trad...@optonline.net[_2_ Wrote:
>
> >   In other words, you can't go down to Starbucks, download the install
> > stuff and take it back to another PC.
>
> Yes, you are correct.  Normally Adobe's Download Manager will
> automatically install the program on the computer you're sitting at, and
> that causes me a problem BECAUSE I want to install it on a different
> computer.
>
> That's why I included the instructions:
>
> -
> 1. Go to: Freeware Files - Free Software Downloads
> 2. on the left side, click on the "Business/Organize" link
> 3. click on the "PDF Readers / PDF Tools" link
> 4. click on the "Adobe Reader 11.0.02" link (or find the Nitro Reader 3
> program and click on it. It's a handy little program, too.)
> 5. click on the "Download Now" link.
> -
>
> Which downloads READER XI's .EXE file to the path of your choice (such
> as a memory stick or CD), SO THAT you can install the READER XI program
> on any other computer(s) from that memory stick or CD.
>
> If you don't believe me, try it yourself.


But what does that one executable contain and how big
is it? Usually when you start the install of a product like
Adobe it doesn't exist in just one downloadable file. Instead
there is one relatively small executable file that you download
and then that program in turn downloads and installs all
the other stuff, which is a large amount, far larger than the
initial file Are you saying that one
executable is all there is to Adobee Reader? That later when
you run that executable that you've downloaded at Starbucks
and transferred to your other computer, that it doesn't
require that target PC to be online and do a lot of additional
downloading?

I've seen the one file approach for simple programs, like
shareware, but in my experience, it's not the typical approach
for a more involved product from one of the commercial
companies.

tra...@optonline.net

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On Apr 23, 7:33 am, "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
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I checked out your website link. That file is huge, like 50MB,
so I guess it is the whole Adobe Reader and your process will
work as you say.
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nestork

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Apr 23, 2013, 11:52:16 AM4/23/13
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'G. Morgan[_9_ Wrote:
> ;3051695']Are you a dummy?
Nah! I'm not going to fall for that trick again.
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'G. Morgan[_9_ Wrote:
> Why did you write all those instructions instead of
> just posting the direct D/L links?

Cuz that site contains lots of great freeware, and I thought other
people in here would be interested in what else they have for download.




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Red

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Apr 23, 2013, 10:02:31 PM4/23/13
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You're catching a lot of flak but thanks for the info, I can use it.
I have a home with high speed internet, and a cabin with dial-up. It
would take me 3 minutes at home to download the Adobe XI and it would
take me 6 hours at the cabin (9m/hr). And as you said, I can't
download it at home and carry a copy to the cabin without something
like your recommended procedure.
The IRS has fill-in PDF style tax forms that can be printed & saved
without Adobe XI. I'm not sure how that is working but it does. And
it saves going to the post office & library hunting those forms &
instruction brochures since they are not sending them out to tax
payers anymore.


nestork

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Apr 23, 2013, 10:44:06 PM4/23/13
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Thanks, Red.

Probably lots of people in here took note of that post and have already
downloaded Reader XI.

But, I commend you on having the guts to stand apart from the silent
majority and say "Thanks for letting me know about that. That helps me
out."

So, thanks for saying thanks. It helps a lot.




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iielie...@gmail.com

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Aug 22, 2013, 5:52:31 AM8/22/13
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On Monday, April 22, 2013 3:03:28 AM UTC+8, nestork wrote:
> Finally...
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>
>
> I buy a lot of stuff online, and much of it comes from the USA. To save
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> money I broker those imports across the border myself, and the PITA I've
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> had to deal with until now is that while the CBSA (Canada Border
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> Security Agency) has the forms I need available as downloadable fillable
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> PDF forms on their web site, I can't save those forms after filling them
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> out. Not unless I pay $300 for Adobe Acrobat. If I find out I've made
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> a mistake on a form after closing Adobe Reader, I have to fill out the
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> whole form over again. If I find out that I need to import more of
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> something, I have to fill out the same form with the same information
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> over again.
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>
>
> Adobe Reader XI is a freeware program released by Adobe just last
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> February that allows fillable PDF's to be saved. Don't bend over to
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> kiss Adobe's feet because the only reason why they did that was because
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> other freeware programs like Nitro Reader 3 and PDF-XChanger already had
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> that feature and were increasing in popularity. Adobe is more wanting
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> to crush these upstart software companies than give that feature away
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> free.
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>
>
> (By the way, Nitro Reader 3 allows you to extract text and graphics in
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> PDF forms and save them in various word processor and graphic image
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> formats, including Word and JPG or BMP files.) I don't know if Adobe
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> Reader XI does that or not.)
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>
>
> You can download Adobe Reader XI from any download site like Tucows or
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> CNET, but those sites simply transfer you to Adobe's web site, where
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> downloading results in Reader XI being installed on the computer you're
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> sitting in front of. And, if you're on dial-up like me, that can take
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> forever.
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>
>
> A better way to do it is to go to Freewarefiles.com where you can
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> download the installation program itself onto a CD or flash memory card.
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> That way, you can go to any internet cafe or restaurant with WIFI where
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> you have access to high speed internet, and download the installation
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> file in a few minutes onto a flash memory drive, and then install Reader
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> XI onto your computer from the flash memory drive. Proceed as follows:
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>
>
> 1. Go to: 'Freeware Files - Free Software Downloads'
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> (http://www.freewarefiles.com/)
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> 2. on the left side, click on the "Business/Organize" link
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> 3. click on the "PDF Readers / PDF Tools" link
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> 4. click on the "Adobe Reader 11.0.02" link (or find the Nitro Reader 3
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> program and click on it. It's a handy little program, too.)
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> 5. click on the "Download Now" link.
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> (You might have to register as a user on the Freeware Files web site.
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> It's free, tho. You just have to wait for e-mail confirmation.)
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>
>
> That will download the installation program to the path of your choice
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> so that you can save a copy of the installation file for quick
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> installations on other computers.
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>
>
> You can run the Reader XI installation program without removing any old
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> versions of Adobe Acrobat Reader. The intallation program anticipates
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> the presence of an older version and will just change/update what you've
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> already got.
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>
>
> I just got home and edited some fillable PDF's to check that Reader XI
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> saves fillable PDF's and it does.
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>
>
> Finally.
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> --
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> nestork

Filling out PDF forms online check this website http://goo.gl/SdMVLU
Service is really great. You can find any PDF form you need, fill it out, sign, print, email and even fax the form.
You can also upload your own PDF form and convert it to fillable web form.

Tomsic

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Aug 22, 2013, 4:24:16 PM8/22/13
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<iielie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9caec1d6-c8c2-425d...@googlegroups.com...
You can also just do a screen shot of the page or text that you want to
save. I use Prinkey2000, but there are many others also for free.
Printkey2000 allows you to highlight the material on the screen that you
want and then copy, print or save it in a picture format such as .jpg.

Tomsic


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