It was/is HOMOSEXUAL RAPE, not "hazing", in Carmel High School.
Don't Ask, GET AIDS!
Carmel, Indiana is one of those small towns in the suburbs of a big city
(Indianapolis) where the rich people live. The rules in Carmel seem to
be different than most places. This news item is very disturbing. Four
varsity high school basketball players are accused of raping a 14 year
old team-mate yet are facing misdemeanor assault charges...read on...
CARMEL, In -- INDIANAPOLIS STAR - Holding hands and sometimes holding
back tears, a mother and father said Wednesday that their 14-year-old
son, an aspiring basketball player at Carmel High School, became a
target of older players who attacked him on a team bus and in a school
locker room.In a news conference with the couple, their attorney, Robert
Turner, said the boy was physically violated, adding "that's a little
bit more than a simple hazing incident.''
Legal experts said that even Turner's short description of the attack
calls into question the filing of misdemeanor counts against four Carmel
seniors who were charged earlier this week. Oscar Falodun, Brandon Hoge,
Robert Kitzinger and Scott Laskowski were released from the Hamilton
County Jail in Noblesville on bond early Tuesday. Falodun, Hoge and
Kitzinger face misdemeanor counts of battery and criminal recklessness;
Laskowski was charged with three counts of misdemeanor criminal
recklessness. Authorities said the charges stem from the Jan. 22 bus
incident, plus earlier incidents in the high school locker room from
Nov. 1 to Jan. 21. In addition to the 14-year-old boy, at least two
other victims are believed to be involved.
Turner, a former Indianapolis Police Department official and city
director of public safety, described the attacks as "a physical
grabbing, a confinement to the point that he was held down, the removal
of clothing and just in general I would just say anal penetration. "I
won't get any further than that, but that's a little bit more than a
simple hazing incident.''Joel Schumm, an Indiana University law
professor with expertise in Indiana criminal law, said that as described
by Turner, the attacks could have warranted felony charges of criminal
deviate conduct. In announcing their investigation of alleged hazing and
bullying at Carmel, police officials said in February that criminal
deviate conduct was one of the possible crimes under investigation.
Carmel Assistant Police Chief Tim Green declined Wednesday to discuss
the filing of misdemeanor charges in the case.The filing of specific
charges, Schumm added, would depend on witness testimony and other
evidence that remains secret. Hamilton County Prosecutor Sonia Leerkamp
opted to take the investigation to a grand jury, where proceedings are
private, rather than file charges outright. "If there was some question
about the (specifics of) . . . the definition'' of criminal deviate
conduct, Schumm said, "that might be the reason the grand jury decided
what it did."
Victim advocate Anita Carpenter questioned the decision to go to a grand
jury. "I've seen juries and grand juries side with the perpetrator,
especially in cases where they have a bright future in front of them,''
said Carpenter, CEO of the Indiana Coalition Against Sexual Abuse.
"People don't want to be responsible for ruining someone's life, but
they don't think about the victim and the lifelong trauma they'll have
to deal with."
Carpenter said she was disappointed with misdemeanors. "You've got to
hold offenders accountable,'' she said. "If you don't, it sends the
wrong message. I don't think misdemeanor charges hold people
accountable, especially if you see them laughing as they're leaving the
jail. It's obvious they're not taking this seriously. "These boys will
never have a record of committing a sex crime. They'll never have to
register on the sex offender list." Falodun's attorney, Mark Sullivan,
said his client was not involved in the incident as Turner described it.
None of the attorneys for the three other defendants responded to
telephone messages to comment on the news conference.
Leerkamp declined to discuss the filing of misdemeanor rather than
felony charges, saying she couldn't divulge grand jury discussions. The
grand jury was given numerous charging options, she added, but "they
declined to indict on those kinds of charges." Her main reason for going
to a grand jury, she said, was to protect the criminal justice process.
"I still believe that I have acted with a responsible and sensitive
manner against everyone involved in these allegations," she said. "The
criminal process is not protected when you start talking about evidence
that may be presented at some point in time."Retired Indiana University
law Professor Henry Karlson on Wednesday reiterated his earlier comments
that using a grand jury raises suspicion.
"The press doesn't print the names of sex crime victims," he said. "The
only people she could be trying to protect through a grand jury are the
suspects. It's a cover-up, pure and simple. It's obscene." At
Wednesday's news conference, the mother of the alleged victim also
disagreed with Leerkamp's contention that authorities were sparing her
son further embarrassment by not describing the attacks or divulging
evidence. "Sometimes things aren't pleasant . . . but it's still going
to be a better day if the truth comes out," she said. "I think about
every child in that school and every other school, and we as parents
have to take a look at what's going on in our own households and bring
it up in discussion, that this should not be happening to anyone. There
is no acceptable level, however you want to look at it.''
The parents -- who have filed a tort claim against Carmel Clay Schools,
a move that often leads to a lawsuit -- said their son didn't tell them
of the attacks until a family friend informed them of rumors around the
school. The attacks started out small and increased, the boy's father
said. "It gradually just got worse," he said. "I'm sure in his mind he
was thinking at some point in time it was going to level off or stop.
And it just didn't happen that way." At that time, the victim's father
took him to a hospital emergency room as a precaution. Turner refused to
say what, if any, physical injuries the victim suffered. The
14-year-old's life, his parents said, has been turned upside down.
They said they pulled him out of Carmel High School because other
students knew what happened and teased him. His parents monitor where he
goes alone and try to keep him away from television reports about the
case. "Some days he's good; some days, it's tough,'' his father said.
"But every day we're concerned about what he's been going through." The
boy's father is still haunted by the day his son told him of the
attacks. "It was four months ago,'' he said, tearing up, "and I still
struggle with that conversation.''
Jude Alexander
>> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble, brain dead bastard, but those rapists
are/were HETEROSEXUALS. I bet if you follow their lives, they will marry,
have children and probably have women on the side as well. Shows how little
you know about rape mentality. Do us ALL a favor and research rape in
prison by heterosexual men as well as in war times. We'd all appreciate you
doing so because we're quite frankly tired of dummie do their ignorance
level best to spread hatred and misinformation.
Murray Cooper
> Don't Ask, GET AIDS! wrote:
>>> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
>
>
> Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble, brain dead bastard, but those rapists
> are/were HETEROSEXUALS.
You can't possibly know that. The only fact you have is they are male,
and they raped a younger boy. That points to queer.
Why are you continually making excuses for queer rape?
Jude Alexander
>> On 1/11/2011 9:25 AM, Jude Alexander wrote:
>>> Don't Ask, GET AIDS! wrote:
>>>>> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble, brain dead bastard, but those
>>> rapists are/were HETEROSEXUALS.
>>
>> You can't possibly know that. The only fact you have is they are
>> male, and they raped a younger boy. That points to queer.
DUH. You're just one more in a long line of stupid bigots. Try educating
yourself. HETEROSEXUAL MEN do rape other men.
>>
>> Why are you continually making excuses for queer rape?
I don't make excuses for homosexual rape nor any kind of rape, asshole.
It's this OP that does, trying to make it like when men rape it's because
they are homosexuals trying to put on machismo attitude which, in this sick
asshole's mind, equals man raping woman. DUH The rape crisis in America
and around the world is at it's zenith and it's men raping women, asshole.
I would NEVER justify a homosexual raping another man but I bet you make
excuses for men who rape women. Why do I think that? Because you jumped to
the conclusion that I'm a raptist apologist WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE
which usually means the false accuser is projecting his own evil onto
somebody else. Smile, look it up. It's called psychological projection.
Murray Cooper
> Murray Cooper wrote:
>>> On 1/11/2011 9:25 AM, Jude Alexander wrote:
>>>> Don't Ask, GET AIDS! wrote:
>>>>>> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble, brain dead bastard, but those
>>>> rapists are/were HETEROSEXUALS.
>>>
>>> You can't possibly know that. The only fact you have is they are
>>> male, and they raped a younger boy. That points to queer.
>
> DUH. You're just one more in a long line of stupid bigots. Try educating
> yourself. HETEROSEXUAL MEN do rape other men.
So you - an apologist for queer rape - keep asserting, without a shred
of evidence.
>>>
>>> Why are you continually making excuses for queer rape?
>
> I don't make excuses for homosexual rape nor any kind of rape, asshole.
That's *exactly* what you're doing.
Furthermore, it seems the *only* threads in which you participate are
those documenting queer rape. Why is that?
Why are you an apologist for queer rape?
Jude Alexander
>> On 1/11/2011 11:19 AM, Jude Alexander, queer rape apologist, whined:
>>> Murray Cooper wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2011 9:25 AM, Jude Alexander wrote:
>>>>>> Don't Ask, GET AIDS! wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble, brain dead bastard, but those
>>>>>> rapists are/were HETEROSEXUALS.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't possibly know that. The only fact you have is they are
>>>>> male, and they raped a younger boy. That points to queer.
>>>
>>> DUH. You're just one more in a long line of stupid bigots. Try
>>> educating yourself. HETEROSEXUAL MEN do rape other men.
>>
>> So you - an apologist for queer rape - keep asserting, without a
>> shred of evidence.
Why thank you. Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery. You're using my
own words back to me! :)
>>>>> Why are you continually making excuses for queer rape?
>>>
>>> I don't make excuses for homosexual rape nor any kind of rape,
>>> asshole.
>>
>> That's *exactly* what you're doing.
You're a bigot. Bigots can not judge righteously and with fair mindedness.
DUH
>>
>> Furthermore, it seems the *only* threads in which you participate are
>> those documenting queer rape. Why is that?
>>
>> Why are you an apologist for queer rape?
Are you psychological stuck after reaching puberty?
Murray Cooper
> Murray Cooper wrote:
>>> On 1/11/2011 11:19 AM, Jude Alexander, queer rape apologist, whined:
>>>> Murray Cooper wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/11/2011 9:25 AM, Jude Alexander wrote:
>>>>>>> Don't Ask, GET AIDS! wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble, brain dead bastard, but those
>>>>>>> rapists are/were HETEROSEXUALS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't possibly know that. The only fact you have is they are
>>>>>> male, and they raped a younger boy. That points to queer.
>>>>
>>>> DUH. You're just one more in a long line of stupid bigots. Try
>>>> educating yourself. HETEROSEXUAL MEN do rape other men.
>>>
>>> So you - an apologist for queer rape - keep asserting, without a
>>> shred of evidence.
>
> Why thank you. Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery. You're using my
> own words back to me!
No backup given. You have asserted something, but you haven't offered a
shred of evidence to support the assertion.
What we have is your UNSUPPORTED assertion that those four boys were
straight when they ass-fucked a smaller boy. You have nothing to
support your claim except your political agenda, which is filth, but
pointing the other way is the fact that the four boys didn't rape a
girl. They raped a boy - queer rape.
>>>>>> Why are you continually making excuses for queer rape?
>>>>
>>>> I don't make excuses for homosexual rape nor any kind of rape,
>>>> asshole.
>>>
>>> That's *exactly* what you're doing.
>
> You're a bigot.
Another empty and unsupported assertion - scarcely even that, as all it
really is is your own bigoted belief.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, it seems the *only* threads in which you participate are
>>> those documenting queer rape. Why is that?
>>>
>>> Why are you an apologist for queer rape?
>
> Are you psychological stuck after reaching puberty?
You didn't answer the question. Why do you only participate in threads
about queers?
Jude Alexander
>> On 1/11/2011 3:09 PM, Jude Alexander, queer rape apologist, whined:
>>> Murray Cooper wrote:
>>>>> On 1/11/2011 11:19 AM, Jude Alexander, queer rape apologist,
>>>>> whined:
>>>>>> Murray Cooper wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/11/2011 9:25 AM, Jude Alexander wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Don't Ask, GET AIDS! wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble, brain dead bastard, but
>>>>>>>>> those rapists are/were HETEROSEXUALS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't possibly know that. The only fact you have is they
>>>>>>>> are male, and they raped a younger boy. That points to queer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DUH. You're just one more in a long line of stupid bigots. Try
>>>>>> educating yourself. HETEROSEXUAL MEN do rape other men.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you - an apologist for queer rape - keep asserting, without a
>>>>> shred of evidence.
No, the statistics would make it more PROBABLE that the victim was gay and
the attackers straight. :) DUH
>>> Why thank you. Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery. You're
>>> using my own words back to me!
>>
>> No backup given. You have asserted something, but you haven't
>> offered a shred of evidence to support the assertion.
>>
>> What we have is your UNSUPPORTED assertion that those four boys were
>> straight when they ass-fucked a smaller boy. You have nothing to
>> support your claim except your political agenda, which is filth, but
>> pointing the other way is the fact that the four boys didn't rape a
>> girl. They raped a boy - queer rape.
To one who is informed, no explanation is needed. To a bigot, no
explanation will suffice. Keeping jerking yourself off thinking you are
wise and know something but you know NOTHING but your own miopic bigoted
perception. I, otoh, have studied to understand and not caring where the
outcome will lead me. I do NOT relish lies. Most people, that would include
you bigoted self, will stop if they hear something that supports their
prejudice.
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> Why are you continually making excuses for queer rape?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't make excuses for homosexual rape nor any kind of rape,
>>>>>> asshole.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's *exactly* what you're doing.
>>>
>>> You're a bigot.
>>
>> Another empty and unsupported assertion - scarcely even that, as all
>> it really is is your own bigoted belief.
you're a bigot. That's clear, and, like usual, an uneducated bigot. You
think you've got a strong stance here! That's amusing to me. Why shouldn't
you? Male on male rape MUST equal homosexuality! Right? LOL WRONG!
http://hubpages.com/hub/Male_Rape
There is a general assumption that male rape is thought to be perpetrated by
gay men on to victims who are heterosexual men or boys, but the opposite is
true. Male rape is more likely to be perpetrated by an attacker who
describes himself as heterosexual on to men he believes to be gay or
bisexual.
http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32361
There are many reasons that male victims do not come forward and report
being raped, but perhaps the biggest reason for many males is the fear of
being perceived as homosexual. However, male sexual assault has nothing to
do with the sexual orientation of the attacker or the victim, just as a
sexual assault does not make the victim survivor gay, bisexual or
heterosexual. It is a violent crime that affects heterosexual men as much as
gay men. The phrase "homosexual rape," for instance, which is often used by
uninformed persons to designate male-male rape, camouflages the fact that
the majority of the rapists are not generally homosexual (Donaldson, 1990).
Jude Alexander
>>>>
>>>> You didn't answer the question. Why do you only participate in
>>>> threads about queers?
Why do you? :)
Murray Cooper
Ah, the No True Scotsman fallacy!
>>>>>>>>> Why are you continually making excuses for queer rape?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't make excuses for homosexual rape nor any kind of rape,
>>>>>>> asshole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's *exactly* what you're doing.
>>>>
>>>> You're a bigot.
>>>
>>> Another empty and unsupported assertion - scarcely even that, as all
>>> it really is is your own bigoted belief.
>
> you're a bigot.
Unsupported assertion.
> http://hubpages.com/hub/Male_Rape
Your fellow apologist for queer rape already cited that worthless bit of
polemics. That isn't a source at all - it's just the same unsupported
assertion you're making, but it happens to be a web page.
Jude Alexander
You're the kid with the fingers in his ears, yelling loudly. Fuck off. I'm
through with you.
For the informed, no explanation is needed but for the bigot no explanation
is enough. :) Have a nice stoopid life, turd.
juanjo
Address.invalid> wrote:
> http://druzifer.livejournal.com/221891.html
>
> Carmel, Indiana is one of those small towns in the suburbs of a big city
> (Indianapolis) where the rich people live. The rules in Carmel seem to
> be different than most places. This news item is very disturbing. Four
> varsity high school basketball players are accused of raping a 14 year
> old team-mate yet are facing misdemeanor assault charges...read on...
>
It is always a mystery to me how some people seem to delight in taking
a story and turning it on its head, adding in additional facts NOT
present anywhere in witness statements, papers filed in court or in
police investigative reports. The lying piece of cowardly crap who
posted this so-called article has engaged in all sorts of accusation
which if one bothers to do the simplest of research turn out to be
unsubstantiated.
The real story happened almost a year ago in Indiana and resulted in
four heterosexual young men being expelled from school and facing
criminal charges. The young man who was the victim has a suit pending
against the school district for 2.3 million. According to the reports
on a bus returning from an away game several seniors decided to engage
in some unnecessarily rough and unwelcome physical activity on a
freshman. There was a security camera on the bus which was reviewed
and was used as evidence in the case against the assailants.
Essentially what happened was the older students dog piled on the
younger student and were roughing him up. In the course of this
attack, someone's hand went into the victim's butt crack and goosed
him. The victim was fully clothed at the time and the fingers never
contacted the victim's skin but nonetheless contact was made through
his clothing.
Sadly this type of hazing has gone on for generations but that is not
an attempt to excuse the behaviour. It is humiliating and physically
painful for the person so attacked. But it is not a rape as that term
is generally understood and used. It certainly is not what the
anonymous coward who posted this diatribe has attempted so clearly to
paint this matter. It is tragic that this lying piece of human fecal
matter has decided to boost his own hate agenda by twisting the facts
and lying about a tragic situation which has ruined the lives of 5
young men, none of whom are homosexual to anyone's knowledge,
including the sick, twisted f*ck who posted this article.
Jude Alexander
Also, what is more LIKELY to be true is that the victim of the rape is
probably the gay one and statistics bear that out. When I posted several
sources, which were substantial, they were completely ignored and minimized.
It's is the same old boring situation of men with low self esteem looking
for a group of people to feel superior over. Gay people are an easy target.
Some of them tippy toe over to anti-Semitism. Whatever, it's the same
boring stuff over and over with every generation of pathetic souls using
negative tactics to feel better about themselves which, btw, doesn't work
but they're so invested in their ignorance.
maf1029
ban...@hotmail.com says...
"The vast majority of offenders are heterosexual men. Male
offenders who abuse young boys maintain adult heterosexual
relationships." - Roland Summit, M.D., Head Physician, Community
Consultation Service, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.
So why are you excusing your HETEROsexual comrades? Did you not
get your turn last night at the party?
--
maf 1029, aa #1954
EAC Cruise Director
maf1029
ban...@hotmail.com says...
> Why are you an apologist for queer rape?
"The vast majority of offenders are heterosexual men. Male
offenders who abuse young boys maintain adult heterosexual
relationships." - Roland Summit, M.D., Head Physician, Community
Consultation Service, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.
Why do you excuse your HETEROsexual buddies? Do you hope that
they'll let you participate at the next gang-bang?
Allofus
maf1029 <maf...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote:
>Did you not get your turn last night at the party?
maf has a thing for the young and tender. He got your turn at a party
and it cost him three years in the pen, huh, maf? But you;re back now
and it looks like you're on the prowl again. You're about as smart as
smart ass..
Allofus
<maf...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote:
>In article <b6ednTJvSImtJ7HQ...@earthlink.com>,
>ban...@hotmail.com says...
>
>> Why are you an apologist for queer rape?
>
>"The vast majority of offenders are heterosexual men. Male
>offenders who abuse young boys maintain adult heterosexual
>relationships." - Roland Summit, M.D., Head Physician, Community
>Consultation Service, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.
Catholic Priest, maf, Catholic Priest. The homosexuals among them
raped enough boys in the churches and young men in the Seminaries
to set their rate of sexual abuse on a per capita basis at a level
that "heterosexual" men who seek sex with other males (aka closeted
homosexuals) will never be able to equal...but then they are all
homosexuals aren't they so you really don't keep score.
juanjo
> Catholic Priest, maf, Catholic Priest. The homosexuals among them
> raped enough boys in the churches and young men in the Seminaries
> to set their rate of sexual abuse on a per capita basis at a level
> that "heterosexual" men who seek sex with other males (aka closeted
> homosexuals) will never be able to equal...
I am no admirer of the Roman Catholic Church but I dispute your
claim. There has been more than adequate data collected which shows
that molestation rates by Catholic clergy are no higher than for other
types of Christian clergy. The key difference for the Catholics was
that the Roman Catholic hierarchy attempted to handle the matter
internally and did so incompetently. It was their attempts to hush up
any public scandal, not involve the civil authorities and to use their
own internal methods of discipline which is the cause of the scandal
for them.
Allofus
No, the relatively small number of homosexuals in the priesthood raped
and sexually abused tens of thousands of boys and young men in the
churches and Seminaries over the years. The level of individual
abuses by heterosexual in the general population pales when compared
to the individual abuses of the homosexual in the priesthood. No
amount of homo-lying is ever going to erase the history of homosexuals
and their subversion of the Catholic church
• R. L. Measures.
<1776da67-fa5a-4940...@s9g2000vby.googlegroups.com>, juanjo
<caca...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>On Jan 14, 2:31=A0pm, Allofus <allo...@cdc.org> wrote:
>
>> Catholic Priest, maf, Catholic Priest. The homosexuals among them
>> raped enough boys in the churches and young men in the Seminaries
>> to set their rate of sexual abuse on a per capita basis at a level
>> that "heterosexual" men who seek sex with other males (aka closeted
>> homosexuals) will never be able to equal...
>
>I am no admirer of the Roman Catholic Church but I dispute your
>claim. There has been more than adequate data collected which shows
>that molestation rates by Catholic clergy are no higher than for other
>types of Christian clergy.
€€ The thing that raised eyebrows in the case of the RCC's altar-boy
scandal was that roughly 98% of the cases involved homosexual acts, and
approximate;y 2% involved heterosexual acts. - whereas in other organized
religions', cases involving heterosexual acts accounted for roughly 90%
of the total. As I see it, the RCC's required post-1079AD vow not to have
sex with women made the RCC a homosexual haven for "confirmed bachelors".
>The key difference for the Catholics was
>that the Roman Catholic hierarchy attempted to handle the matter
>internally and did so incompetently. It was their attempts to hush up
>any public scandal, not involve the civil authorities and to use their
>own internal methods of discipline which is the cause of the scandal
>for them.
€€ Good points Juanjo. The altar-boy scandal of January, 2002 is
reminescent of Nixon's Watergate breakin scandal.
--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
maf1029
all...@cdc.org says...
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:15:41 -0600,
>
>
> maf1029 <maf...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Did you not get your turn last night at the party?
>
>
> maf has a thing for the young and tender.
Nah. I prefer 'em one year younger than you, Bill.
And no matter how much sweet talking you do, I still won't date
you.
maf1029
all...@cdc.org says...
>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:17:03 -0600, maf1029
> <maf...@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <b6ednTJvSImtJ7HQ...@earthlink.com>,
> >ban...@hotmail.com says...
> >
> >> Why are you an apologist for queer rape?
> >
> >"The vast majority of offenders are heterosexual men. Male
> >offenders who abuse young boys maintain adult heterosexual
> >relationships." - Roland Summit, M.D., Head Physician, Community
> >Consultation Service, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.
>
>
> Catholic Priest, maf, Catholic Priest.
No, I prefer non-clerics.
And I still won't date you, Bill.
"Sexual abuse of male children by adult men is often referred to
as 'homosexual molestation,' which implies that the perpetrator
is himself gay or has a homosexual orientation. Usually,
however, the adjectives 'homosexual' and 'heterosexual' really
refer to the victim's gender in relation to that of the
perpetrator, not to the perpetrator's sexual orientation." -
Gregory M. Herek, Ph.D., Department of Psychology at UC Davis
So why do you excuse your HETEROsexual buddies? Do you hope that
they'll let you participate at the next gang-bang?
--
God's Debris
You have been correct thru out this thread.