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Shrimp Flied Ice

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May 31, 2007, 9:25:34 AM5/31/07
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The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his look.

-------------------------------------
Icebreaker
"You look lost. It's okay, you can talk to me. I'm the art teacher. I may be
an authority figure, but I have the mind of a child."


AnthonyM1975

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May 31, 2007, 11:02:11 AM5/31/07
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On May 31, 6:25 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

<icebrea...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote:
> http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/30/celine-and-her-son/
>
> The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
> like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
> destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his look.
>

Wow I totally thought that was girl. Very nice looking kid though
which is a surprise considering the parents.

Buttercup

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May 31, 2007, 11:07:29 AM5/31/07
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On May 31, 8:25?am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

<icebrea...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote:
> http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/30/celine-and-her-son/
>
> The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
> like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
> destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his look.
>
>

What happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas. <yeesh>

riverg...@hotmail.com

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May 31, 2007, 11:44:20 AM5/31/07
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On May 31, 8:25 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

That's just wrong.

Ago@faraway JonesieCat

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May 31, 2007, 5:15:35 PM5/31/07
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<riverg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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How old is this kid? I had a friend, years ago, who had 3 children. I
thought they were 3 girls - and gorgeous girls at that. But I soon learned
the youngest, about 6 at the time, was actually a boy, with wonderful long,
thick hair which he would absolutely not let anyone cut. I think it was
finally as he grew, he began to feel peer pressure and conformed to a more
male appearance. Later on, he came out, forget when, but it was after high
school sometime. No surprise to anyone but his mom, and in her heart I doubt
she was either. As an adult he doesn't wear his hair long or look
particularly fem tho. Celine's little boy sure is a cutie. Wonder who's idea
it is to keep the hair so long. (My friend would have had to physically hold
her kid down to cut his hair, which she chose not to do - and couldn't coax
or threaten or reason him into doing it.) Ryder Robinson's hair is long too,
but he isn't as pretty as this boy, and somehow looks more like his dad's
rock style than Celine's tyke. Hmmm. jc


MC

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May 31, 2007, 6:02:50 PM5/31/07
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In article <1180623731.5...@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
AnthonyM1975 <Bennet...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
> > like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
> > destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his look.
> >
>
> Wow I totally thought that was girl. Very nice looking kid though
> which is a surprise considering the parents.

Plastic surgery.

--

"Anybody can direct. There are only 11 good writers."
ã Mel Brooks

M

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May 31, 2007, 7:31:41 PM5/31/07
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"Shrimp Flied Ice" <icebr...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote in message news:91A7i.1144$n25...@newsfe02.lga...
: http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/30/celine-and-her-son/
:
:

He can be friends with Cindy Crawford's son Presley.
http://babyrazzi.com/baby/category/cindy-crawford/

fearles...@googlemail.com

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May 31, 2007, 8:09:54 PM5/31/07
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On 31 May, 23:02, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> In article <1180623731.559138.151...@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,

>
> AnthonyM1975 <Bennettma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
> > > like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
> > > destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his look.
>
> > Wow I totally thought that was girl. Very nice looking kid though
> > which is a surprise considering the parents.
>
> Plastic surgery.
>
> --
>
> "Anybody can direct. There are only 11 good writers."
> ‹ Mel Brooks

Yes because heaven forbid the kid should be born looking that gorgeous.

robbielynn

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May 31, 2007, 8:31:25 PM5/31/07
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LOL..

katorzejames

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May 31, 2007, 9:01:23 PM5/31/07
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> the youngest, about 6 at the time, was actually a boy, with wonderful long,
> thick hair which he would absolutely not let anyone cut. I think it was
> finally as he grew, he began to feel peer pressure and conformed to a more
> male appearance. Later on, he came out, forget when, but it was after high
> school sometime. No surprise to anyone but his mom, and in her heart I doubt
> she was either. As an adult he doesn't wear his hair long or look
> particularly fem tho.


did the kid "come out" as gay or transgender?
they are two seperate things - ask any scientist or psychologist.
ps
do you really think that allowing a boy to wear his hair long is
going to affect his sexual orientation or gender identity?
ask a doctor - it don't work that way.

katorzejames

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May 31, 2007, 9:02:07 PM5/31/07
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you guys are pretty immature.


Spangliekins

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May 31, 2007, 9:13:19 PM5/31/07
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On May 31, 6:25 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

He's already a little French kid, Ice. There's nothing left of him to
destroy. He was tainted before he even got started.

S*Babykins


Spangliekins

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May 31, 2007, 9:16:21 PM5/31/07
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Damn...Young Rene-Charles looks like a miniature version of Bo Bice
from American Idol. Same hair and everything. Maybe that's her goal?
For him to be Simon's next best thing?

;-)

S*Babykins

Spangliekins

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May 31, 2007, 9:21:27 PM5/31/07
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On May 31, 2:15 pm, "JonesieCat" <Long Ago@Far Away> wrote:
> <rivergirl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> rock style than Celine's tyke. Hmmm. jc- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Anyone seen a recent picture of Kate Hudson's little kid, Ryder? Same
thing going on with his hair. It's just awful. Totally long and
blonde. He looks like he belongs on a commune. WTF is the deal with
these parents like Hudson who say "my baby will not LET me cut his
hair"?!?!? Who's the parent and who's the child? That's insane. Tough
luck if they don't want it cut.


I wouldn't be inclined to brush out the tangles or buy twice as much
shampoo, personally. That's just b.s. He doesn't half to be a jarhead,
but come on already. Same with Rene'-Charles, Celene's kid. Hudson's
kid doesn't like wearing shoes, either. I've often seen him in
pictures with her where he had on little bell bottoms and no shoes. At
least Celene's child seems to know that it's important to your
personal health and hygiene to wear shoes. It also looks nicer.

S*Babykins

doomella

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May 31, 2007, 9:25:54 PM5/31/07
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"Spangliekins" <serene...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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He's not French. He's Canadian. French-Canadian, but Canadian nonetheless.

Spangliekins

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May 31, 2007, 9:29:34 PM5/31/07
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It will most CERTAINLY have dire altercations in regards to how
*other* children relate to him and play with him. I think that's the
key right there. If he looks and dresses like a little girl he'll be
taunted and boys aren't going to relate to him the same way. It's just
insane. She shouldn't have him styled and dressed that way, regardless
of whether he's French, Scandinavian, Hispanic or from a remote
village in Africa, honestly. He's not a girl.

S*Babykins

MC

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May 31, 2007, 9:33:23 PM5/31/07
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In article <465f75a2$0$14982$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
"doomella" <doom...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > He's already a little French kid, Ice. There's nothing left of him to
> > destroy. He was tainted before he even got started.
>
> He's not French. He's Canadian. French-Canadian, but Canadian nonetheless.

His father is of Lebanese descent.

Buttercup

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May 31, 2007, 10:04:06 PM5/31/07
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On May 31, 8:02�pm, katorzejames <quatorzeja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  you guys are pretty immature.

We know. This is where we like to meet. ;-)

katorzejames

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May 31, 2007, 10:11:08 PM5/31/07
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> It will most CERTAINLY have dire altercations in regards to how
> *other* children relate to him and play with him. I think that's the
> key right there. If he looks and dresses like a little girl he'll be
> taunted and boys aren't going to relate to him the same way. It's just
> insane. She shouldn't have him styled and dressed that way, regardless
> of whether he's French, Scandinavian, Hispanic or from a remote
> village in Africa, honestly. He's not a girl.


listen - first of all, the rich are different.
those kids will be fine.
the set the trends for the rest of the kids - which is probably the
subtext of your fear in the first place!
second of all, how ignoble and defeatist of you.
yours is the same reasoning people use to say that "the races"
shouldn't mix and that gay families shouldn't raise children.
folks with pure hearts, high self-esteem, standards, principles and a
brain in their head don't let the bleatings of ignorant trash dictate
how they lead their lives or raise their children.
if folks like you could stand to keep your prejudices to yourselve,
kids could live and play in innocence.
you are decadent, selfish, lazy and evil to try to infect the minds
of children with your dangerous foolishness.
i apologize for labeling you, but really.
where does the buck stop?
do you have any ideals at all?
do you really want to live your life pandering to the lowest common
denominator?
long hair on little boys is not the problem.
adults filling kids' heads with hatred and intolerance is the
problem.
i doubt you have kids yourself, and i'm happier about it even than
you!
you don't deserve to be an influence on kids with your retrograde,
fear-based beliefs.
when you pass, i only hope your willful ignorance dies with you.


subscriber1997

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May 31, 2007, 11:30:03 PM5/31/07
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"doomella" <doom...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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===========


there ain't no real blood tribe Canadian BUT there is a
French one Gallic ....etc w/e


btw despite attempts to force little boyz
into being ultra epicene they will most
likely grow to be males of the species ;-(


vxp

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Jun 1, 2007, 12:27:31 AM6/1/07
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"MC" <cope...@mapca.inter.net> wrote in message
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> In article <465f75a2$0$14982$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
> "doomella" <doom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > He's already a little French kid, Ice. There's nothing left of him to
>> > destroy. He was tainted before he even got started.
>>
>> He's not French. He's Canadian. French-Canadian, but Canadian
>> nonetheless.
>
> His father is of Lebanese descent.
>
Doesn't make him any less Canadian.

vxp


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Shrimp Flied Ice

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"Magda" <magda@eu> wrote in message
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> You don't even know how to write "separate".

No surprise that Magda is a Spelling Nazi (no reference to Aaron Spelling)
since she DOES live in Europe, and the continent essentially surrendered to
the Nazi's back in the 30's and 40's. Hell, Magda's probably French.

Shrimp Flied Ice

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"katorzejames" <quator...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> listen - first of all, the rich are different.

You know, I thought you couldn't possibly be any more stupid....I see that I
was wrong.

> shouldn't mix and that gay families shouldn't raise children.

I need to know what gender the child is so that I can address he/she/it
properly. Push aside the taunts and bullying...if good people can't figure
out that the "girl" is actually a boy, it will become very frustrating to
the child and IT WILL affect his sense of manhood and self-identity. It
can't not.

> long hair on little boys is not the problem.
> adults filling kids' heads with hatred and intolerance is the
> problem.

No, weak-kneed, pansy-assed liberals such as yourself are the problem. There
ARE differences in gender and the child should be dressed and treated LIKE A
BOY.

> when you pass, i only hope your willful ignorance dies with you.

FOAD yourself.

Deborah

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Jun 1, 2007, 1:45:20 PM6/1/07
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On 31 May 2007 08:02:11 -0700, AnthonyM1975
<Bennet...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Do we know the kid is genetically theirs? I vaguely recall they had
to go to extraordinary lengths to conceive, but can't really remember
how they did in the end. Artificial insemination or something...

Deborah

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Shrimp Flied Ice

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"katorzejames" <quator...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> did the kid "come out" as gay or transgender?
> they are two seperate things - ask any scientist or psychologist.
> ps
> do you really think that allowing a boy to wear his hair long is
> going to affect his sexual orientation or gender identity?
> ask a doctor - it don't work that way.

This is a ridiculous argument. Whether the child will be gay when he grows
up is not the issue. This can't be the first time Celine has heard people
tell her that the child looks like a girl; putting some boy clothes on him
and giving him a boy's haircut would go a long way towards diffusing an
akward situation. I'm sure many people are embarassed to have wrongly
assumed her son was a girl, even though his parents shoulder a heavy
responsibility for allowing him to look this way. Unless the child has
exhibited early signs of gender confusion, there's no reason for his hair to
be THAT LONG, and THAT GIRLISH, and his clothes to be so gender neutral.

It's a further attack by misguided people who believe that the genders are
interchangeable and that we "shouldn't label others". Good example is Teneka
Ray telling Larry King the other night that she thinks Barbara Walters
should hire "a gay man" to be one of the hosts of The View. That's assinine.
A man is a man is a man; they're not women.

Lumpy Rutherford

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Jun 2, 2007, 12:53:17 AM6/2/07
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The kid is fat. That's what's disgusting, not his hair.


Spangliekins

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I have a niece who I fawn over and buy all sorts of GIRLY things for.
She never looks like a boy, either, thankfully. She knows her place in
society in that regard. She doesn't live in a bubble shieled from the
rest of the world in hotels in Las Vegas like Rene Charles, Celene's
kid does, either, so my "influence" is working just fine. Rene's hair
isn't just long. It's parted like a little girl's and it's highlighted
and curled on the ends. It's ridiculous. His mother needs therapy.
She's nuts and last time I checked, so were you. Still.
Unfortunately. :-(

S*Babykins

Spangliekins

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Jun 2, 2007, 1:25:07 AM6/2/07
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On Jun 1, 10:45 am, Deborah <debo...@noemail.com> wrote:
> On 31 May 2007 08:02:11 -0700, AnthonyM1975
>

I think the kid looks like Celine and has a large forehead and very
round eyes like Rene. I believe it's their kid, but I think he's so
old that his pickle has lost it's perk and THAT's part of why she was
inseminated. I don't think that he can keep his elevator lifted for
very long, in other words. They seem quite fond of each other, though,
and have a convincing enough romance, regardless of their age
difference. Goodness, she's know the guy since she was like 14 or
something according to a Diane Sawyer interview I saw once. (That kind
of creeped me out, but if he was her first "crush" and she wasn't
around a lot of other men growing up because she was trying to get her
career on track, I'm not surprised she eventually wound up with
Rene'.)

S*Babykins

katorzejames

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Jun 2, 2007, 8:25:18 PM6/2/07
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On Jun 1, 7:40 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"
<icebrea...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote:
> "katorzejames" <quatorzeja...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > listen - first of all, the rich are different.
>
> You know, I thought you couldn't possibly be any more stupid....I see that I
> was wrong.

ok - tell it to f. scott fitzerald, not me.


> I need to know what gender the child is so that I can address he/she/it
> properly. Push aside the taunts and bullying...if good people can't figure
> out that the "girl" is actually a boy, it will become very frustrating to
> the child and IT WILL affect his sense of manhood and self-identity. It
> can't not.


well, you are not allowed to address the child at all!
you are not allowed to label him!
if he gets negative reactions to the hair, he may ask to have it cut!

> > long hair on little boys is not the problem.
> > adults filling kids' heads with hatred and intolerance is the
> > problem.
>
> No, weak-kneed, pansy-assed liberals such as yourself are the problem. There
> ARE differences in gender and the child should be dressed and treated LIKE A
> BOY.
>
> > when you pass, i only hope your willful ignorance dies with you.
>
> FOAD yourself.

- - did you forget who you were for a second?
it seems as if you are the one who can't remember which "gender" he
is.
or are you and "spanglie" so close that you respond interchangeably,
regardless of to whom specific posts are addressed?
i'm asking!
you are a bit careless!
how many personae do you need to argue your points, such as they are?
take a lesson from mr. tongue, who gets often his identities confused
as well...
maybe if you girls weren't so angry, you could perpetrate more
effectively.

Spangliekins

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Jun 3, 2007, 12:46:48 AM6/3/07
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On Jun 2, 5:25 pm, katorzejames <quatorzeja...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> - - did you forget who you were for a second?
> it seems as if you are the one who can't remember which "gender" he
> is.
> or are you and "spanglie" so close that you respond interchangeably,
> regardless of to whom specific posts are addressed?
> i'm asking!
> you are a bit careless!
> how many personae do you need to argue your points, such as they are?
> take a lesson from mr. tongue, who gets often his identities confused
> as well...
> maybe if you girls weren't so angry, you could perpetrate more
> effectively.


That's the BEST you can do when he tells you that you're ignorant and
you need to FOAD, Katorze? Claim that we're the same person and that
we're both a couple of females? Come on. That's a wimpy cop out. One
would think you could have done better and came up with something more
creative. That's sad.


Do you even KNOW the difference between anger and exasperation?
Neither of us are angry at you. Never have been. You're not important
enough to us. We're both amazed that you're so dense and witless,
though. Big difference. It's not anger. It's more like eye rolling.


Dude, we're not "careless", either. We just both find you to be
ridiculous, petty and frivolous, truthfully, and something tells us
that you could change, but you're too lazy to. It's something we both
agree on, in other words, so we both respond and tell you so. Can't
handle it? Then, hell, don't read our comments, Boo. It's that simple.
Why bitch about something that you can easily curtail if you have the
mindset to do so? You *do* have it in you not to read our posts, do
you not? Go on, Katorze. I'm waiting....Go 'head. Answer. Do you have
it in you?

**P.S.** Last time I checked, only people online whom I was close over
a long period of time with and/or friendly with called me stuff like
SPANGLIE. It's a nickname, in other words; a condensed version of the
entire screen name. WHEN did I EVER say it was alright for you to get
all super comfy and casual and call me that? I didn't. Try not to do
that again. It's not appropriate considering the fact that we're (you
and I) not pals.


S*Babykins


Lumpy/Martha/Cripple

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Jun 3, 2007, 1:14:31 AM6/3/07
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On Jun 2, 9:46 pm, Spangliekins wrote:

> We're both amazed that you're so dense and witless,
> though. Big difference. It's not anger. It's more like eye rolling.
>
> Dude, we're not "careless", either. We just both find you to be

> ridiculous, petty and frivolous, etc, etc.


Spanglie, the problem here is that katorzejames is nothing of the
sort.

He's not dense, or witless, or ridiculous, or petty, or frivolous.
He's actually pretty funny, he's flaming (which is ALWAYS a good thing
because it's fun and he knows it), he's got staying power, and he's
sincere in a hands-on-hips way. Besides which he comes up with Mr.
Brittlebones, or whatever that was. I'm too deep into my Klonopin and
Bud quart to remember. But I laughed. People around here who are
spontaneously funny are why it survives... that thing Mr. Morrow said
about Ms. Loafie just now cracked me up. Deborah the goddamn Canuk is
funny to because she's so deadpan. She makes Jack Benny look like
Chris Farley.

This AGC practice of infantile insults is numbing because they're
repeated verbatim about a hundred times a cycle around here. What
you're doing, Spanglie, is calling a normal person a bunch of
inaccurate adjectives and it's dumb. Isn't it, Spanglie.

Shrimp Flied Ice

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Jun 3, 2007, 5:34:51 AM6/3/07
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"katorzejames" <quator...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> - - did you forget who you were for a second?
> it seems as if you are the one who can't remember which "gender" he
> is.
> or are you and "spanglie" so close that you respond interchangeably,
> regardless of to whom specific posts are addressed?
> i'm asking!
> you are a bit careless!

Thank you for continuing to prove my point about what a complete dumbass you
really are.

Terry Lomax

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On Jun 1, 8:36 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"
<icebrea...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote:

> Hell, Magda's probably French.

I associate the name "Magda" with a pretty woman in the movie
Octopussy (a movie with large numbers of great looking wimmin) played
by Kristina Wayburn. IIRC Kristina is Swedish. Sweden must have the
highest percentage of great-looking women of any country. It's a
shame the name Magda gets corrupted in AGC by what is obviously an
ugly Eurotrash dyke bitch.

Terry Lomax

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Jun 3, 2007, 7:24:02 PM6/3/07
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On May 31, 8:11 pm, katorzejames <quatorzeja...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[snip reams of all-lowercase non sequiturs, ad hominem attacks, straw
man arguments, completely inappropriate playing of the race card, and
other nonsense from Quatorze]

> i doubt you have kids yourself, and i'm happier about it even than
> you!

Yawn. The above has been said a kazillion times by a gazillion
idiots. If I had a dollar for every time somebody has said the above
to me, I could retire.

Lumpy/Martha/Cripple

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Jun 3, 2007, 8:42:58 PM6/3/07
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Yeah, but only kator can call you Mr. Bitterballs with such aplomb. :)

Slinky Pink

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Jun 3, 2007, 10:08:20 PM6/3/07
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On May 31, 9:25 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

<icebrea...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote:
> http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/30/celine-and-her-son/
>
> The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
> like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
> destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his look.
>
> -------------------------------------
> Icebreaker
> "You look lost. It's okay, you can talk to me. I'm the art teacher. I may be
> an authority figure, but I have the mind of a child."

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the child is also very much
overweight. At first glance you would just think his face is showing
"baby fat" but he's 6 years old. It's obvious from the cover photo
with Celine that the photographer tried using positioning to hide
this, but it's pretty impossible to totally hide an overweight body.
My guess is that the child is completely spoiled and given whatever he
wants. I really don't get the point of the long hair--I mean THAT
long--but the weight issue is more problematic.

Slinky Pink

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Jun 3, 2007, 10:11:02 PM6/3/07
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On May 31, 9:13 pm, Spangliekins <serenejoaq...@lycos.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 6:25 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

>
> <icebrea...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote:
> >http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/30/celine-and-her-son/
>
> > The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
> > like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
> > destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his look.
>
> > -------------------------------------
> > Icebreaker
> > "You look lost. It's okay, you can talk to me. I'm the art teacher. I may be
> > an authority figure, but I have the mind of a child."
>
> He's already a little French kid, Ice. There's nothing left of him to
> destroy. He was tainted before he even got started.
>
> S*Babykins

To be fair, they are not French. They are Quebeqous (sp?). Not the
same thing as been French even though they share a language. They are
no more French than the Belgiums are or the Tunisians.

Slinky Pink

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On May 31, 9:21 pm, Spangliekins <serenejoaq...@lycos.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 2:15 pm, "JonesieCat" <Long Ago@Far Away> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <rivergirl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:1180626260....@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On May 31, 8:25 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

> > > <icebrea...@CindySheehanisnuts.com> wrote:
> > >>http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/30/celine-and-her-son/
>
> > >> The boy totally looks like a girl. The hair is not only long, but styled
> > >> like a girl would wear it. Even the clothes are girlish. She's going to
> > >> destroy this kid's sense of gender-identity if they don't change his
> > >> look.
>
> > >> -------------------------------------
> > >> Icebreaker
> > >> "You look lost. It's okay, you can talk to me. I'm the art teacher. I may
> > >> be
> > >> an authority figure, but I have the mind of a child."
>
> > > That's just wrong.
>
> > How old is this kid? I had a friend, years ago, who had 3 children. I
> > thought they were 3 girls - and gorgeous girls at that. But I soon learned

> > the youngest, about 6 at the time, was actually a boy, with wonderful long,
> > thick hair which he would absolutely not let anyone cut. I think it was
> > finally as he grew, he began to feel peer pressure and conformed to a more
> > male appearance. Later on, he came out, forget when, but it was after high
> > school sometime. No surprise to anyone but his mom, and in her heart I doubt
> > she was either. As an adult he doesn't wear his hair long or look
> > particularly fem tho. Celine's little boy sure is a cutie. Wonder who's idea
> > it is to keep the hair so long. (My friend would have had to physically hold
> > her kid down to cut his hair, which she chose not to do - and couldn't coax
> > or threaten or reason him into doing it.) Ryder Robinson's hair is long too,
> > but he isn't as pretty as this boy, and somehow looks more like his dad's
> > rock style than Celine's tyke. Hmmm. jc- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Anyone seen a recent picture of Kate Hudson's little kid, Ryder? Same
> thing going on with his hair. It's just awful. Totally long and
> blonde. He looks like he belongs on a commune. WTF is the deal with
> these parents like Hudson who say "my baby will not LET me cut his
> hair"?!?!? Who's the parent and who's the child? That's insane. Tough
> luck if they don't want it cut.


Right, "won't let me cut his hair" is the same bullshit as Angelina
Jolie declaring that Maddox "wanted a mohawk"...oh sure, Maddox ASKED
for a mohawk at age three?? I don't THINK so. He's six now and I could
see if he saw someone with a mohawk NOW and wanted one, but not at age
three which is how old he was when Angelina first had his hair cut
that way. These parents force their own personalities on their kids
and then pretend it was the child's choice. They must think the public
are a bunch of idiots.

Slinky Pink

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Jun 3, 2007, 10:18:56 PM6/3/07
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I agree. I don't even have a problem with being "different". I have a
problem with forcing something STUPID on a child just because the
parent thinks it's clever. The Dion boy is overweight and looks like a
girl. It's a toxic mix for a young child. Anyway, I wonder if this kid
even attends school in the first place. I would imagine Celine being
the type of uppity person who would have her kid home-tutored becuase
he's "too good" to mix with mere mortals. There's something about
certain celebs that I can't imagine their children having friends.
Like, I can imagine Johnny Depp or Kate Winslet's kids having friends
but I can't imagine Celine Dion or Angelina Jolie's kids having any.

Slinky Pink

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On Jun 1, 1:45 pm, Deborah <debo...@noemail.com> wrote:
> On 31 May 2007 08:02:11 -0700, AnthonyM1975
>

I believe it was IVF. Because I remember distinctly Celine saying (a
couple years ago) that she has several embryos still frozen (in New
York, she said) and that she views them as her children just as much
as Rene-Charles and that she looks forward to bringing them to life
"eventually". It was very odd and very creepy.

Slinky Pink

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Jun 3, 2007, 10:24:18 PM6/3/07
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> S*Babykins- Hide quoted text -
>


I believe Rene had had skin cancer and that's why Celine did IVF and
froze some extra embryos. Whatever the case, I find it all completely
creepy and immoral. To sit there with a straight face and talk about
FROZEN EMBRYOS as "my children" but yet continue putting off having
them implanted for years, is immoral.


Spangliekins

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Magda is actually an Arabic/Persian name and the male version is
Majid. In this case it's a screen name, so I've no idea if it's really
on the birth certificate or not.

S*Babykins


Lumpy/Martha/Cripple

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Jun 3, 2007, 11:13:18 PM6/3/07
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Yeah. We noticed that three hundreds posts ago.

Wull

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Try telling that to a French Canadian or a Louisiana Cajun, you might get
more of a rebuttal than you would want.

Wull

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> On May 31, 9:13 pm, Spangliekins <serenejoaq...@lycos.com> wrote:
>> On May 31, 6:25 am, "Shrimp Flied Ice"

Lumpy/Martha/Cripple

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> In this case it's a screen name, so I've no idea if it's really
> on the birth certificate or not.
>
> S*Babykins

Weird thinking.

Why do you feel you have to explain that you don't know if that's the
name on her birth certificate?

I love this shit. heh

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chef_boyhowdy!

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On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:04:06 -0700, Buttercup wrote:

> On May 31, 8:02�pm, katorzejames <quatorzeja...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>  you guys are pretty immature.
>
> We know. This is where we like to meet. ;-)

Best trainwreck on usenet!

chef_boyhowdy!

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On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:01:23 -0700, katorzejames wrote:

>> the youngest, about 6 at the time, was actually a boy, with wonderful long,
>> thick hair which he would absolutely not let anyone cut. I think it was
>> finally as he grew, he began to feel peer pressure and conformed to a more
>> male appearance. Later on, he came out, forget when, but it was after high
>> school sometime. No surprise to anyone but his mom, and in her heart I doubt
>> she was either. As an adult he doesn't wear his hair long or look
>> particularly fem tho.
>
>
> did the kid "come out" as gay or transgender?
> they are two seperate things - ask any scientist or psychologist.
> ps
> do you really think that allowing a boy to wear his hair long is
> going to affect his sexual orientation or gender identity?
> ask a doctor - it don't work that way.

how did it work for you? Was it just the allure of Captain Marvels
underpants or was it his hairstyle?


Spangliekins

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On Jun 3, 7:08 pm, Slinky Pink <dumplingdre...@gmail.com> wrote:


I didn't think lil' Rene Charles looked hurking overweight, but he did
look sort of chubby. His dad is chubby, too, though. There is one
child in the Bruce Willis/Demi Moore marriage (the tallest and I think
the oldest....it's probably Rumer?) who's fatter (and always has been)
than lil' Rene Charles. Also, actor Michael Chicklis had his real-life
daughter Amber, from the time she was quite young on his show The
Shield, and dang, she was little porker. Totally chubby.


Cute blonde hair and pretty blue eyes, like her dad's eyes, but she
was chubby as all get out. She's taller and skinnier now, but still a
rather big girl for her age bracket. I suppose not all children can
look as erasably thin and vanishing as Nicole Richie, however, (and
YES, I know she's adopted and is not Lionel's own natural born
offspring.) I think Britney Spears'es first born looks huge, too. He
looks WAY overfed.


He's a complete little chubster. It looks like she feeds him whatever
he wants just to get him to go to sleep and not cry or throw a
tantrum. Even when he was only about six months old, I recall seeing
him in pictures where his legs and bottom were just gushing out from
the sides of his diaper. It was really obnoxious. I kept thinking
"Cover that poor child, or at the very least get him a onesie that
FITS and put some socks and velcro baby shoes on him already. Damn!"


S*Babykins

Spangliekins

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> no more French than the Belgiums are or the Tunisians.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Hmmm----I thought I read that Celine grew up in Quebec but that her
husband was actually born and grew up in France itself? Maybe it's
just that they travel there on holiday a lot or something, but I
thought he actually hailed from France and not a Canadian province
where they speak French, which would then make little Rene Jr. a half-
blooded (at the very least) Frenchie. My fault if I read/heard wrong,
though. I readily admit that she's not even close to being a favorite
singer of mine.

S*Babykins


Spangliekins

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> are a bunch of idiots.- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -


Age three, if the child is independent (or defiant) or artistically
daring enough is old enough to know about wants and dislikes,
especially when it comes to how your body looks and feels. I gave
myself a haircut at about 3 or 4 AM when I was three years old. It was
sort of crooked in back and my parents were quite shocked, but I did
it in front of a mirror in the middle of the night and it was what I
wanted. I also grabbed a large, old fashioned Kodak camera of my
grandfather's when I was two and randomly started taking abstract
photos of various furniture. The pictures wound up being processed,
were in focus and looked sort of cool, albeit in a warped Andy
Warholish-ly repetitive and goofball kind of way. :-)


I wanted "No More Barrettes" and that was my reasoning for making the
hair shorter; that the barrettes were too "ouchy" and "no fun any
more". The hair all grew back rather quickly and it was not as bad as
it sounds, seeing as how it was quite long to begin with and I didn't
use a buzzer or a hair razor or anything.


The main point is that the little toddler should not be deciding FOR
the parents about the haircut. It ought to be the OTHER way around
with some parental boundaries, in other words. A child like Rene'
Charles or Maddox Jolie Pitt should know that NO means NO, etc. I
heard this same sort of thing about Madonna's kid, Lola, when she was
about four. She wanted a 600 dollar child sized navy peacoat with
authentically embossed anchor buttons and she got it from her momma
with NO complaints. That's just insane AFAIC. Utterly wrong to the nth
degree.

S*Babykins

Spangliekins

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On Jun 3, 8:18 pm, "Lumpy/Martha/Cripple"

Because I didn't want to offend the poster and have her think I was
calling her one nationality just because that's where the NAME she
uses on a screen derives from. It's called being polite and having
good manners. Try it sometime.


My own name is Welsh for instance. There's not a single ounce of Welsh
in my body and YES, I would be kind of taken by surprise if somebody
just merely assumed by my name that it's what I was. To be perfectly
honest, I would have preferred a first name that more strongly
reflected my own heritage and lineage, but oh, well...

S*Babykins

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