THE TRUTH ABOUT SEA LEVEL........................
VOTE-FOR-CHRISTIE-IN-2012
climate scientists doctoring the data?
The University of Colorado's Sea Level Research Group decided in May
to add 0.3 millimeters -- or about the thickness of a fingernail --
every year to its actual measurements of sea levels, sparking
criticism from experts who called it an attempt to exaggerate the
effects of global warming.
"Gatekeepers of our sea level data are manufacturing a fictitious sea
level rise that is not occurring," said James M. Taylor, a lawyer who
focuses on environmental issues for the Heartland Institute.
gordo
Heartland institute?? Tell me more about your walk on the beach. I
suspect you are a shill and get paid by your posts. Are you a shill?
VOTE-FOR-CHRISTIE-IN-2012
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:36:40 -0700 (PDT), VOTE-FOR-CHRISTIE-IN-2012
>
> >Is climate change raising sea levels, as Al Gore has argued -- or are
> >climate scientists doctoring the data?
>
> >The University of Colorado's Sea Level Research Group decided in May
> >to add 0.3 millimeters -- or about the thickness of a fingernail --
> >every year to its actual measurements of sea levels, sparking
> >criticism from experts who called it an attempt to exaggerate the
> >effects of global warming.
>
> >"Gatekeepers of our sea level data are manufacturing a fictitious sea
> >level rise that is not occurring," said James M. Taylor, a lawyer who
> >focuses on environmental issues for the Heartland Institute.
>
>
> Heartland institute?? Tell me more about your walk on the beach. I
> suspect you are a shill and get paid by your posts. Are you a shill?
Sometimes walks on the beach, bring home striped bass. So here I am
with my son's after a walk. http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2836664200015278001XObRJk
You didn't mention if I was right, that you have never even seen an
ocean firsthand, and thus can not make the realtime observations which
I can.
Tom P
It's hard to tell from this blogsite exactly what lawyer Taylor is
talking about, but the release notes for the the latest dataset can be
found here:
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/release-notes
So, it's the global mean glacial isostatic adjustment, thanks to the
GRACE experiment. The abstract to the research can be found here:
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2009JB006352.shtml
That means that the values have been underestimated by -0.3mm/year.
Catoni
>
> >Is climate change raising sea levels, as Al Gore has argued -- or are
> >climate scientists doctoring the data?
>
> >The University of Colorado's Sea Level Research Group decided in May
> >to add 0.3 millimeters -- or about the thickness of a fingernail --
> >every year to its actual measurements of sea levels, sparking
> >criticism from experts who called it an attempt to exaggerate the
> >effects of global warming.
>
> >"Gatekeepers of our sea level data are manufacturing a fictitious sea
> >level rise that is not occurring," said James M. Taylor, a lawyer who
> >focuses on environmental issues for the Heartland Institute.
>
>
> Heartland institute?? Tell me more about your walk on the beach. I
> suspect you are a shill and get paid by your posts. Are you a shill?
Yeah Gordo... the Heartland Institute. How can we believe them ? ?
They're a Libertarian organization that believes in individual
freedom, free enterprise, and personal responsibility.
They don't like either the far left or far right.
Cant't believe an organization like that can we ?
The best organizations to listen to are good leftists
organizations.... right ? ?
erschro...@gmail.com
Wanna find out why, or just piss and moan and see a big conspiracy?
"The physical reason for the necessity of this adjustment to the
atimetric satellite measurements of global sea level rise is due to
the fact that, due to the large mass of water that was added to the
ocean basins during the last deglaciation event of the Late Quaternary
ice-age, the ocean basins are continuing to subside of average by this
amount."
erschro...@gmail.com
Just like the Tobacco Institute. Just like the other groups who told
us smoking wasn't harmful, CFCs didn't damage the ozone layer, etc.
>
> Cant't believe an organization like that can we ?
>
> The best organizations to listen to are good leftists
> organizations.... right ? ?
Here's what your precious Heartland has been up to:
n the 1990s, the Heartland Institute worked with Philip Morris to
question the link between secondhand smoke and health risks.Philip
Morris used Heartland to distribute tobacco-industry material, and
arranged for the Heartland Institute to publish "policy studies" which
summarized Philip Morris reports.The Heartland Institute also
undertook a variety of other activities on behalf of Philip Morris,
including meeting with legislators, holding "off-the-record"
briefings, and producing op-eds, radio interviews, and letters.In
1994, at the request of Philip Morris, the Heartland Institute met
with Republican Congressmen to encourage them to oppose increases in
the federal excise tax. Heartland reported back to Philip Morris that
the Congressmen were "strongly in our camp", and planned further
meetings with other legislators.
Read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute
"Oreskes and Conway’s book, Merchants of Doubt, sets out in great
detail the way in which Jastrow, Singer and Seitz decided that, in the
absence of Communists, they would fight Environmentalists instead: Oil
Companies and Energy companies are only too pleased to fund their
disinformation campaigns by bank-rolling organisations such as the
George C. Marshall Institute and the Heartland Institute (and before
them the Global Climate Coalition).
One of the greatest successes of these Merchants of Doubt has been to
make the population at large distrust scientific authority in order to
promote sales of the products of their paymasters and/or prevent them
going into decline; or even from being banned.
Therefore, in roughly chronological order, they told us that:
smoking cigarettes is sophisticated;
smoking is not harmful;
organic pesticides are more effective than natural predators;
organic pesticides are safe;
CFC’s are not dangerous;
humanity is too insignificant to affect the atmosphere;
the hole in the ozone layer is not there;
CFC’s aren’t causing the hole in the ozone layer;
acid rain does not exist;
we are not causing acid rain;
we can’t afford to prevent acid rain;
pollution is preventing global warming; (this one was true – not that
they cared)
humanity is too insignificant to affect climate;
the climate will not change faster than we can adapt to it;
the climate is not changing;
smoking does not cause cancer;
passive smoking is not dangerous;
we are not causing the climate to change;
we cannot afford to prevent climate change;
climate change has stopped…
VOTE-FOR-CHRISTIE-IN-2012
I do not need a satellite, I can go to the docks or jetties or beaches
that have always been there, and still are. And in fact if I bring a
tape measure and a pencil and paper, I can do scientific observations.
The ocean has not risen, in fact I know some beaches that are longer
and larger, though sand shifting has nothing to do with sea
level.......................So chow silly.
gordo
You have not taken a pencil and paper and a tape measure and had you
it is not the way that scientific observations are done measuring sea
levels. Your picture of you and your son fishing had been moved and I
did not see it. My son just landed a Tyee ( 30 ib spring salmon ).
Large fish are soon to be a thing of the past if the oceans keep
heating up. Sea levels are rising in spite of your walking on the
beaches.
Catoni
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Funny.... my inlaws have had a nice place in Largo, Florida near the
beach and also not far from where they keep their boat down at the
dock. In the fifteen years they've had the place, they have seen no
change down at the beach or at their dock.
They're waiting patiently for any noticeable change.
Can you please let me know how soon they might lose their beach
and have to get the other boat owners to help them move their
dock? ?
Thanks... I'll let them know. Won't be long before they will
need their boat to get to the second story of their home I guess.
LOL .
erschro...@gmail.com
Or facts, it seems.
>I can go to the docks or jetties or beaches
> that have always been there, and still are. And in fact if I bring a
> tape measure and a pencil and paper, I can do scientific observations.
Sure, and I can go out and rob a bank. I don't do that, and you don't
do scientific observations.
> The ocean has not risen,
See what I mean about you not needing facts?
1treePetrifiedForestLane
you must assess the argument by the former head of INQUA,
the organization that collates Eaaarth tide-gauge data.
see http://21stcenturysciencetech.com -- thank *you*.