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Shayne Murray

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Sep 14, 2001, 1:07:17 PM9/14/01
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This email that was forwarded to us has also been broadcast by CFTO. We
have
decided to forward it to a few friends.
Tebby & Brian

FW: Americans & Canadians Show Unity Against Terrorism - Friday, Sept. 14,
2001 at 7:00 p.m.
LET CANADIANS HERE SHOW SUPPORT FOR OUR AMERICAN FRIENDS.
Can you join us?
Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of
your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that
Americans
and Canadians are strong and united together against terrorism.

Please pass this to everyone on your email-mail list. We need to reach AS
MANY
AS POSSIBLE across the United States and Canada quickly.

The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM!

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Thank you for your cooperation.
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jasesmudge

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Sep 14, 2001, 5:24:12 PM9/14/01
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Does this mean Americans finally going to stop supporting the IRA


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D2³

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"jasesmudge" <jases...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Does this mean Americans finally going to stop supporting the IRA
>

It's a very different story, the whole IRA thing. They would stop all the
attacks if Britain would give Ireland their island back... they claim its
because of religion, but its really a political matter. It can be resolved
in a fairly easy way.

On the other hand, the Fundamentalist Muslims claim these attacks to be
political, but is really religious. These people just want to see us fall at
any cost, because it hinders their progress to achieve their relgious goals
of domination.

I'm not saying that the IRA's attacks are any less tragic, but I'm saying
that Britain has an easy way of resolving the issue. There is no easy way
out for America. We are going to have to annihilate all our enemies and
those countries supporting our enemies before these fundamentalists obtain
and make use of nuclear weaponry.


--
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My future is coming on."

- "Clint Eastwood" by Gorillaz

arQon

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Sep 14, 2001, 10:54:04 PM9/14/01
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"D2³" <laug...@yoursorryass.com> wrote in message
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>
> "jasesmudge" <jases...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:cAuo7.10520$Pm5.2...@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > Does this mean Americans finally going to stop supporting the IRA
> >
>
> It's a very different story, the whole IRA thing. They would stop all the
> attacks if Britain would give Ireland their island back... they claim its
> because of religion, but its really a political matter. It can be resolved
> in a fairly easy way.

Yeah, well clearly you're clued-in on the whole thing. Here's an idea: STFU
until you actually have the faintest idea what you're on about.

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Ben Szeto

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Sep 15, 2001, 12:05:53 AM9/15/01
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Well since you say that there isn't an easy way out for the US here
are a few posers within this article.....

>http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4255855,00.html
>Seumas Milne
>Guardian

>Thursday September 13, 2001

>Nearly two days after the horrific suicide attacks on civilian workers in New York
>and Washington, it has become painfully clear that most Americans simply
>don't get it. From the president to passersby on the streets, the message seems
>to be the same: this is an inexplicable assault on freedom and democracy,
>which must be answered with overwhelming force - just as soon as someone
>can construct a credible account of who was actually responsible.

>Shock, rage and grief there has been aplenty. But any glimmer of recognition
>of why people might have been driven to carry out such atrocities, sacrificing
>their own lives in the process - or why the United States is hated with such
>bitterness, not only in Arab and Muslim countries, but across the developing
>world - seems almost entirely absent. Perhaps it is too much to hope that, as
>rescue workers struggle to pull firefighters from the rubble, any but a small
>minority might make the connection between what has been visited upon them
>and what their government has visited upon large parts of the world.

>But make that connection they must, if such tragedies are not to be repeated,
>potentially with even more devastating consequences. US political leaders are
>doing their people no favours by reinforcing popular ignorance with
>self-referential rhetoric. And the echoing chorus of Tony Blair, whose
>determination to bind Britain ever closer to US foreign policy ratchets up the
>threat to our own cities, will only fuel anti-western sentiment. So will calls for
>the defence of "civilisation", with its overtones of Samuel Huntington's
>poisonous theories of post-cold war confrontation between the west and Islam,
>heightening perceptions of racism and hypocrisy.

>As Mahatma Gandhi famously remarked when asked his opinion of western
>civilisation, it would be a good idea. Since George Bush's father inaugurated
>his new world order a decade ago, the US, supported by its British ally,
>bestrides the world like a colossus. Unconstrained by any superpower rival or
>system of global governance, the US giant has rewritten the global financial
>and trading system in its own interest; ripped up a string of treaties it finds
>inconvenient; sent troops to every corner of the globe; bombed Afghanistan,
>Sudan, Yugoslavia and Iraq without troubling the United Nations; maintained a
>string of murderous embargos against recalcitrant regimes; and recklessly
>thrown its weight behind Israel's 34-year illegal military occupation of the West
>Bank and Gaza as the Palestinian intifada rages.

>If, as yesterday's Wall Street Journal insisted, the east coast carnage was the
>fruit of the Clinton administration's Munich-like appeasement of the
>Palestinians, the mind boggles as to what US Republicans imagine to be a
>Churchillian response.

>It is this record of unabashed national egotism and arrogance that drives
>anti-Americanism among swaths of the world's population, for whom there is
>little democracy in the current distribution of global wealth and power. If it turns
>out that Tuesday's attacks were the work of Osama bin Laden's supporters, the
>sense that the Americans are once again reaping a dragons' teeth harvest they
>themselves sowed will be overwhelming.

>It was the Americans, after all, who poured resources into the 1980s war against
>the Soviet-backed regime in Kabul, at a time when girls could go to school and
>women to work. Bin Laden and his mojahedin were armed and trained by the
>CIA and MI6, as Afghanistan was turned into a wasteland and its communist
>leader Najibullah left hanging from a Kabul lamp post with his genitals stuffed
>in his mouth.

>But by then Bin Laden had turned against his American sponsors, while
>US-sponsored Pakistani intelligence had spawned the grotesque Taliban now
>protecting him. To punish its wayward Afghan offspring, the US subsequently
>forced through a sanctions regime which has helped push 4m to the brink of
>starvation, according to the latest UN figures, while Afghan refugees fan out
>across the world.

>All this must doubtless seem remote to Americans desperately searching the
>debris of what is expected to be the largest-ever massacre on US soil - as must
>the killings of yet more Palestinians in the West Bank yesterday, or even the 2m
>estimated to have died in Congo's wars since the overthrow of the US-backed
>Mobutu regime. "What could some political thing have to do with blowing up
>office buildings during working hours?" one bewildered New Yorker asked
>yesterday.

>Already, the Bush administration is assembling an international coalition for an
>Israeli-style war against terrorism, as if such counter-productive acts of outrage
>had an existence separate from the social conditions out of which they arise.
>But for every "terror network" that is rooted out, another will emerge - until the
>injustices and inequalities that produce them are addressed.

>s.m...@guardian.co.uk

StraxusII

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Sep 15, 2001, 3:44:20 AM9/15/01
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That'l be a no then, whatever the reasons the IRA have, they do attack soft
targets, just like the WTC


Thomas Jardine

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Sep 15, 2001, 10:27:28 PM9/15/01
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Without getting into details, that is just a bunch of political hogwash and
whitewash!!
If I had my way, most of you sods that don't like us and hate us would be
left to your own devices and we would help you not with one grain of wheat
or rice or speck of food or money. Maybe you would have been happier if
Hitler and Nazism had won World War II because we should have kept our
buttinski nose out of your affairs?

The apparent fact that you hate or at least dislike the US does not
automatically make everything we have ever tried to do wrong. As for
Israel, I believe that in '48 they were given back land that had been theirs
some 4000 years before, to try to atone for what part of the world did to
them as a people. It wasn't done to displace the Palestinians. Whether we
approve of war or not, it has been a long standing tradition that war and
warlike acts were to be confined to battlefields, and participants uniformed
and armed , prepared to fight, accept wounds and death to protect their
country and/or ideals. Innocents were not to be attacked, harmed our used
as shields. Ever heard of the Geneva Accords?

Tom (the old guy)

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D2³

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"StraxusII" <markje...@nospamsurfanytime.co.uk> wrote in message
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> That'l be a no then, whatever the reasons the IRA have, they do attack
soft
> targets, just like the WTC
>

Im not saying they dont. Furthermore, the US doesnt support or condone the
actions of the IRA. With Britain as the US's prime allies, they wouldn't
condone any attacks on them. What is happening in Ireland is awful, but is
more like a civil war over one main issue: Britain's control of Northern
Ireland. The people involved in bombing targets with innocent people are
madmen.

Bob

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Sep 17, 2001, 10:20:40 AM9/17/01
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Ben Szeto wrote:

> Well since you say that there isn't an easy way out for the US here
> are a few posers within this article.....

Interesting. VERY Hitlerian. It reads very much like one of his speeches would have
sounded. Just change the names of a few nations, and you have Adolf, speaking in the
'30's
Bob

joe crouse

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Sep 18, 2001, 7:23:56 PM9/18/01
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godwins law is now invoked
this thread is dead


Bob wrote:

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Bob

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Sep 18, 2001, 8:47:07 PM9/18/01
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joe crouse wrote:

> godwins law is now invoked
> this thread is dead

Godwins law does not apply as long as at least one of the people involved has an IQ higher
than room temperature.
Sorry about that.
Secondly, I did not call anyone a Nazi, nor did I invoke WW2. I was discussing
writing/speaking styles and subjects. As much as I despise Adolf, and as little German as I
speak (barely enough to fine a beer hall), Adolf was one hell of speaker.
Bob

joe crouse

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:53:55 PM9/18/01
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adolf = ww2 referances nazism
room temperature can be mesured in kelvin as well so unless you live in a very cold place you iq is usualy less than room temperature

Gene Poole, cubed.

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:56:36 PM9/18/01
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joe crouse wrote:
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> adolf = ww2 referances nazism
> room temperature can be mesured in kelvin as well so unless you live in a very cold place you iq is usualy less than room temperature

Godwin's Law doesn't actually apply unless a psoter is making a direct
comparison between the poster, or their views and Nazism or Hitler or
whatnot.

HTH


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Tom MacIntyre

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:59:42 AM9/19/01
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:53:55 GMT, joe crouse <joecr...@home.com>
wrote:

>adolf = ww2 referances nazism
>room temperature can be mesured in kelvin as well so unless you live in a very cold place you iq is usualy less than room temperature
>

Room temperature in kelvin is about 290...

Tom

Bob

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Sep 19, 2001, 10:38:03 AM9/19/01
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joe crouse wrote:

> adolf = ww2 referances nazism
> room temperature can be mesured in kelvin as well so unless you live in a very cold place you iq is usualy less than room temperature

I use Fahrenheit. If you use exclusively Kelvin, you must have a very difficult time discussing weather with 99% of humanity.

Are you a Moose? Good Organization.
I'm a recently joined American Legion member.

joe crouse

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Sep 19, 2001, 4:27:13 PM9/19/01
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cant be 0 kelvin is set to o c

joe crouse

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Sep 19, 2001, 4:28:59 PM9/19/01
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yep joined last week
you should have seen the blood center when the shit hit the fan
the whole lodge went enmass
about half wernt able to give (due to age related meds )
the other half that could had to be split in to two or three groups and head out to the mobile units
just to keep things sane for the people in the centers

JHEM

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Sep 19, 2001, 4:51:21 PM9/19/01
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To convert from Celsius to Kelvin, add 273. K = ° C + 273.

Ergo, 0° C = 273K

Regards,

James

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Tom MacIntyre

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:27:13 GMT, joe crouse <joecr...@home.com>
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>cant be 0 kelvin is set to o c

Sorry...0k is about -270C...look it up. 0k is absolute zero, the point
at which heat does not exist...

Tom

Tom MacIntyre

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:09:28 PM9/19/01
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:27:13 GMT, joe crouse <joecr...@home.com>
wrote:

>cant be 0 kelvin is set to o c

Sorry...0k is about -270C...look it up. 0k is absolute zero, the point


at which heat does not exist...

http://www.pa.msu.edu/~sciencet/ask_st/012992.html

Tom

joe crouse

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:28:48 PM9/19/01
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actualy absolute zero is -274 k

joe crouse

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Sep 19, 2001, 5:40:24 PM9/19/01
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your right
i goofed never was the greatest at physics

Bob

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Tom MacIntyre wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:27:13 GMT, joe crouse <joecr...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> >cant be 0 kelvin is set to o c
>
> Sorry...0k is about -270C...look it up. 0k is absolute zero, the point
> at which heat does not exist...
>
> Tom
>
>

What I was taught (several millennia ago, it seems), is that 0 Kelvin is where molecular motion stops. IF you define heat as molecular
motion, then you are right.
Bob (ROF)


Tom MacIntyre

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:28:48 GMT, joe crouse <joecr...@home.com>
wrote:

>actualy absolute zero is -274 k

I was going from memory, and I have a bad one, and haven't had to use
this stuff in years. Would anyone be able to tell the difference
between 0k and 4k? :-)

Keith T. Williams

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Bob <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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> What I was taught (several millennia ago, it seems), is that 0 Kelvin
> is where molecular motion stops. IF you define heat as molecular
> motion, then you are right. Bob (ROF)
>
>

You have to. There can't be heat without molecular motion. (nor can there
be molecular motion without atomic motion, nor can there be atomic motion
without molecular motion resulting)

--
You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within
himself.
*Galileo (1564-1642 Italian Astronomer & Mathematician)

Ben Szeto

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Sep 21, 2001, 12:16:03 PM9/21/01
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Errmmm???

And you are refering to??

**Confused** ( tries to find corner to sit down and think but realises
finally he's in a cirular room)

:o)

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wrote:

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