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Martin S.

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Apr 20, 2004, 10:36:36 AM4/20/04

I've been searching the net for a 'complete' (well, reasonably
comprehensive at least) list of international ATC call signs, but the
only one I've found is very selective, to say the least (it has the
call sign of 'Surrey and Kent Flying Club' but not of Lufthansa, for
instance!). Does anyone know where I could get a list of authentic
call signs for major commercial aviation?

Also, how do I install the names into the FS ATC (or is it the Windows
speech engine?) programme? When I enter the call signs into the
'atc_aircraft=' line in the aircraft.cfg file, some, like Speedbird
and Springbok, are recognised and then spoken by ATC, but others are
clearly not programmed and are either ignored entirely or approximated
(e.g. 'Indair' for Indian Airlines, comes out as 'India').

Thank you.

Martin S.

pr

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Apr 20, 2004, 10:52:37 AM4/20/04

Martin S. (m...@ms.com) wrote:

> I've been searching the net for a 'complete' (well, reasonably
> comprehensive at least) list of international ATC call signs, but the
> only one I've found is very selective, to say the least (it has the
> call sign of 'Surrey and Kent Flying Club' but not of Lufthansa, for
> instance!). Does anyone know where I could get a list of authentic
> call signs for major commercial aviation?

You need EditVoicePack, which is a free utility that allows users to create
their own callsigns.

http://bevelstone.xs4all.nl/FlightSimulator/EditVoicepack/

*BUT!!* before you panic and think you need to do this yourself, EVP comes
with a very comprehensive sound file of already-created ATC callsigns. You
simply install the utility (with FS2004 not running), then open the utility
and hit CTRL-U to update FS2004's sound file with all of the callsigns out
of EVP.

Please note that this step takes awhile to run, so watch the bottom status
bar of EVP to indicate the progress of this step.

After this step completes, choose TOOLS > UPDATE AIRLINES.CFG off EVP's
menu.

> Also, how do I install the names into the FS ATC (or is it the Windows
> speech engine?) programme? When I enter the call signs into the
> 'atc_aircraft=' line in the aircraft.cfg file, some, like Speedbird
> and Springbok, are recognised and then spoken by ATC, but others are
> clearly not programmed and are either ignored entirely or approximated
> (e.g. 'Indair' for Indian Airlines, comes out as 'India').

This is most likely caused by the limited sound file you currently have.
Since not all callsigns are delivered in the default sound file, you need
to follow my suggestion above first.

--
Peter

Major Ursa

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Apr 20, 2004, 11:40:08 AM4/20/04

Martin S. wrote:
> I've been searching the net for a 'complete' (well, reasonably
> comprehensive at least) list of international ATC call signs, but the
> only one I've found is very selective, to say the least (it has the
> call sign of 'Surrey and Kent Flying Club' but not of Lufthansa, for
> instance!). Does anyone know where I could get a list of authentic
> call signs for major commercial aviation?

http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/

Ursa..

Martin S.

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Apr 20, 2004, 12:06:49 PM4/20/04

This looks good - but will it mess up the ATC I have installed in
Ultimate Traffic, which is already very good indeed - but as i say,
missing some call signs I would like?
M.

Martin S.

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Apr 20, 2004, 12:18:03 PM4/20/04

Thanks for the useful information!
M.

pr

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Apr 20, 2004, 12:39:43 PM4/20/04

Martin S. (m...@ms.com) wrote:

> This looks good - but will it mess up the ATC I have installed in
> Ultimate Traffic, which is already very good indeed - but as i say,
> missing some call signs I would like?

No, it will not. I have UT and, IMO, EditVoicePack is a requirement.

You will find that there are a few mistakes in some of the ATC callsigns UT
uses. Installing EVP will help you to identify and correct those mistakes.

--
Peter

scott s.

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Apr 20, 2004, 3:25:01 PM4/20/04

Martin S. <m...@ms.com> wrote in news:2aja80tk0g44nk27t1kch093abn6k8m7e2@
4ax.com:

> Thanks for the useful information!
> M.
>

Here's an interesting site on this stuff:

http://www.aerotransport.org/

but you only get about 5 searches without a subscription.

scott s.
.

Martin S.

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Apr 21, 2004, 8:21:55 AM4/21/04

I downloaded it - but now have to get the .NET package from Microsoft
(23MB!). I'll get round to it at some stage!
M. :-}

pr

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Apr 21, 2004, 9:15:11 AM4/21/04

Martin S. (m...@ms.com) wrote:

Martin, what OS are you running? WinXP Home and (I believe) Pro include
.NET in the standard install. You may already have it.

--
Peter

MajorUrsa

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Apr 21, 2004, 10:04:54 AM4/21/04

I had to dl .NET too, having a brandnew XP Home installation. I don't
know what happens with all the (packed) 23MB but I don't see any
difference, except that EditVoicePack works now. Probably installed a
myriad of security holes, as is usual with M$ bloatware. The actual
essential programming will probably only weigh a few 100K at the most.

Ursa..

pr

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Apr 21, 2004, 10:31:08 AM4/21/04

MajorUrsa (majo...@iname.com) wrote:

> I had to dl .NET too, having a brandnew XP Home installation.

Hmmm... that is interesting. I have reinstalled XP Home three different
times now and in all cases, had .NET there.

Considering your experience, I wonder now if .NET was installed when I
installed another product, say MS Office XP?

--
Peter

MajorUrsa

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Apr 21, 2004, 10:51:49 AM4/21/04

That is quite possible, since the machine does not have Office on it.
Actually the only thing runnung on it is FS9 and related :-).

I have another machine here with XP Home on it *and* Office. I could
take a look if .NET is installed. But what are the symptoms?

Ursa..

pr

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Apr 21, 2004, 10:58:25 AM4/21/04

MajorUrsa (majo...@iname.com) wrote:

> I have another machine here with XP Home on it *and* Office. I could
> take a look if .NET is installed. But what are the symptoms?

EditVoicePack will work? :-)

Not being a .Net programmer, I would not know what else to suggest.

--
Peter

FlyingAxx

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Apr 21, 2004, 3:33:16 PM4/21/04

This source is good but as well this one
http://www.faa.gov/ATPubs/CNT/3-3.htm

If you like to check out aircraft codes as well, then try
http://www.icao.int/anb/ais/8643/index.cfm
(@Peter: unfortunately EditVoicePack has build in some mistakes in
this field)

There are some other sites but not as complete and reliable.
--
Regards
Axel

Carl Frisk

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Apr 21, 2004, 5:03:27 PM4/21/04

The .NET framework installs the files needed to run .NET programs. The latest development platform from MS. It's
pretty tight security wise so far that I've seen, at least 1.1 is. I've been developing to it for about a year and half
now and it is slowly becoming my language of choice. One of the cool things is that you can program to it in about 17
languages now. I just downloaded a .NET Pascal compiler that looks cool.

Think of it as 'you are getting a glimpse' of the next MS OS.

I have a .NET screen capture program you can have for free at the URL below.
--
...Carl Frisk
Anger is a brief madness.
- Horace, 20 B.C.
http://www.carlfrisk.com

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Bill Denton

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Apr 21, 2004, 9:40:34 PM4/21/04

I have no use for this information, in fact I'm not even sure what it is.

But I think it was very nice of you to post it up for whoever requested it.

Nice job!

Martin S.

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Apr 22, 2004, 6:18:02 PM4/22/04

No, I am 99.9% sure they don't. I have XP Pro and Home editions -
neither have .NET. In fact, Windows Update keeps prompting me to
download it. I will at some stage in the not too distant future -
although I have FS9 in its own partition with its very own Windows
installation and I try to keep other software to a minimum...

M. :-}

Martin S.

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Apr 22, 2004, 6:28:40 PM4/22/04

Well, my original post will tell you why this long list came back as a
reply from some kind person! Thank you for bothering to post it, 'Ed'.
In fact, I got quite a comprehensive list from the sites already
mentioned, but there are some gaps, which this list fills to some
extent. So thanks again for sending it.

Martin :-)

Gregory Abbey

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Apr 29, 2004, 11:09:45 AM4/29/04

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:52:37 -0400, pr <no...@nospam.com> brought the
following to our attention:

>Martin S. (m...@ms.com) wrote:
>
>You need EditVoicePack, which is a free utility that allows users to create
>their own callsigns.
>
>http://bevelstone.xs4all.nl/FlightSimulator/EditVoicepack/
>
>*BUT!!* before you panic and think you need to do this yourself, EVP comes
>with a very comprehensive sound file of already-created ATC callsigns. You
>simply install the utility (with FS2004 not running), then open the utility
>and hit CTRL-U to update FS2004's sound file with all of the callsigns out
>of EVP.
>

Hi Martin..

I saw two versions of EditVoicePack.. one for FS2002

So without reading thru the DOC (I scanned over it briefly) will v2.x
update the sound file in FS2002 as you describe for 04?

It appears the Readme indicates this.

-Gregory

Tom Gibson

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Apr 29, 2004, 12:58:07 PM4/29/04

Hi,

Yes it will. However, you will get none of the additions after v3 came
out - they only go into v3, not v2. And you cannot do web updates.

Hope this helps,

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Gregory Abbey

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Apr 29, 2004, 9:13:36 PM4/29/04

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:58:07 -0700, Tom Gibson <no...@antispam.com>

brought the following to our attention:

>Hi,

>
>Yes it will. However, you will get none of the additions after v3 came
>out - they only go into v3, not v2. And you cannot do web updates.
>
>Hope this helps,

Hey Tom Gibson..

How's the Propliners forum!!

v2 worked GREAT.. I knew about this app some time ago but hesitated.
Even got a few new Voice file ZIPS from avsim.com and burned a couple
in. It seems that each new `call sign' must be added one-by-one.. at
least I could only select one at a time. Can more than one `vcpmod' be
inserted at once?

-Gregory

Michel Viller

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Apr 29, 2004, 4:16:50 AM4/29/04

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Tom Gibson

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Apr 30, 2004, 2:42:02 PM4/30/04

Hi Gregory,

The forum's doing fine - I see you posting elsewhere every so often -
glad you are still around.

No, you can only insert one vcpmod at a time.

Hope this helps,

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