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Sigmund_F

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Jan 31, 2017, 3:50:27 AM1/31/17
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Paul McGeough, writing for the SMH, said:

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[In selecting countries from which to ban muslims entering America] Trump
claims to be motivated by the horrific September 11 attacks on New York
and Washington, but the countries of which the 19 aircraft hijackers were
citizens are not on the list - most came from Saudi Arabia and the rest from
the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Lebanon.

Also absurdly absent are Pakistan, Turkey and Afghanistan - all of them
hotbeds of terror. In excluding them, Trump is grovelling to their leaders,
not making a gesture to their people.

But there's something a bit more sinister in his choice of targets.

In the 40 years to 2015, not a single American was killed on US soil by
citizens from any of the seven countries targeted - Iran, Iraq, Libya,
Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen - according to research by the
conservative-leaning Cato Institute.

But the same research shows that in the same period nearly 3000 Americans
were killed by citizens of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt and Turkey - most
victims of the September 11 attacks.

And oops, wouldn't you know it, Trump has multimillion-dollar business
operations in all those countries...

================== unquote ============================

Read the full article here:
http://www.smh.com.au/world/donald-trumps-muslim-ban-excludes-countries-in-which-he-has-business-ties-20170128-gu0ptl.html


* * * * * *

And then there's Jeremy Bash, former chief of staff at the CIA and
Department of Defense. He said "With the stroke of a pen, the president
has handed ISIS a major propaganda victory."

Source:
http://www.today.com/video/trump-travel-ban-not-going-to-make-us-safer-says-former-cia-chief-of-staff-865742403655







Sigmund Froyd

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Want to see a huge reduction in my off-topic posts here?

Here's the deal: Except for exercising my right of reply
to others' off-topic posts, I will not originate any off-
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every on-topic post.

What does this mean? It means, for instance, that if someone,
anyone, posts a genuine on-topic post every day, you will
never see any off-topic threads originated by me.

That's my best offer. I suggest you take it.

And anyhow...

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING preventing people posting
flightsim and/or aviation related material here except,
maybe, their psychological inability to stop reading threads
they don't like reading and their intolerance of the opinions
of others.

Please do not complain about any lack of flightsim and/or
aviation related material here if _you_ have not posted any
here recently.

In the meantime, please enjoy reading the deep and meaningful
off-topic material I post here in order to keep this place
ticking over. Who knows, it may even improve your mind.
It certainly cannot hurt you... ;-)

The Truth Sayer

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Jan 31, 2017, 11:38:45 AM1/31/17
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On 1/31/2017 2:50 AM, Sigmund_F wrote:

> [In selecting countries from which to ban muslims entering America] Trump
> claims to be motivated by the horrific September 11 attacks on New York
> and Washington,


That quote right there shows walnut has been again taken in by fake
news. If he had taken two minutes to google he would have known the
facts. But facts seem to elude the half-brain nitwit. Par usual... or
does he know the truth and choose to post the lies anyway?

His motivation is only to post propaganda against the United States no
matter that it's untrue. Just like other radical leftists, he
propagates lies and deception. It's been that way for the last 6 years.

It was his mission to destroy this newsgroup, and destroy it he did..

Congrats walnut.... you did a great job. And you continue to lay waste
to the ashes.




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They generally have enough knowledge about the military to fake
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There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING preventing people posting
flightsim and/or aviation related material here except
walnut and the NoT's intolerance of the rights
of others and their psychological inability to stop
posting confrontational, hypocritical, broken logic,
totally unrelated to simming, topically inflammatory
as possible, guaranteed to start another bun war messages
which are constructed solely within the bigoted, deranged,
propaganda-twisted minds of the above mentioned two individuals.

Therefore, please do not complain about any lack of
flightsim and/or aviation related material here if _you_
have not complained directly to walnut and/or to the NoT.
In the meantime, please enjoy the thought provoking
"off-topic" discussions brought to you by the destroyers
of AGMFS, Gerry the walnut, and the NoT.
Who knows, they may even fry your mind.

The facts speak for themselves:

Fact [1]: Two control freaks (Gerry and his flying monkey Cyril),
who thought they owned this newsgroup, attacked the rest of the group
and tried to ostracized them because they occasionally voiced
OT Posts.

Fact [2]: Gerry "trolled" insanely for years.
Gerry then blamed everyone else for the destruction
of the newsgroup by claiming he was the victim.

*False Victimization Syndrome*
The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is
harassing him/her. Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a
number of well-known cases. – And yet ANOTHER hallmark of your average
Troll"


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The Truth Sayer

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Jan 31, 2017, 11:50:07 AM1/31/17
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A lot of attention is being paid to President Donald Trump’s executive
order on temporarily barring entry from 7 predominantly Muslim countries.

But there’s a big part to the order that has received almost no attention.

President Trump ordered the Department of Homeland Security Friday to
start releasing information regarding honor killings and other
gender-based acts of violence committed against women by immigrants in
the country.

Trump ordered DHS to track and publicly release data on gender-based
violence against women committed by foreign nationals every six months,
and to produce numbers on foreign nationals in the country charged with
or convicted of terror-related offenses. The command was part of an
order suspending all refugee entry into the country for 120 days.

The goal of the data collection and its public release, according to the
executive order, is to “be more transparent with the American people”
regarding what the government knows about foreign nationals in the
country, and to “more effectively implement policies and practices that
serve the national interest.”

The DHS is supposed to release the information on the number of acts
within 180 days from Friday and every 180 days after.

In addition to accurately cataloging the terroristic attacks, this would
provide a national recording of honor killings, something which isn’t
broken out now, at least not by the government.

The Obama administration spent too much time avoiding the term ‘Islamic’
and missed the real issue of protecting women.

There’s a lot of discussion about the threat of terrorism.

But beyond that, not as much about cases like this, with harm to women.






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The Truth Sayer

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Jan 31, 2017, 11:57:03 AM1/31/17
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http://www.sarahpalin.com/media-goes-bashing-trumps-immigration-order-may-just-backfired/




The media has been hammering Donald Trump for his executive order that
temporarily froze immigration from 7 countries that have been identified
by the Obama Administration as hotbeds of terror.

Many outlets have been incorrectly reporting the order as a “Muslim ban”
despite the fact no such wording exists in the order.

The order may be unpopular in liberal circles but the media might be
severely overplaying their hand on this one.

It turns out that the executive order is far more popular with the
American people than the media is letting on.

--------------------------------------------
From Weasel Zippers via Rasmussen:

Most voters approve of President Trump’s temporary halt to refugees
and visitors from several Middle Eastern and African countries until the
government can do a better job of keeping out individuals who are
terrorist threats.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds
that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters favor a temporary ban on refugees from
Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen until the federal
government approves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from
coming here. Thirty-three percent (33%) are opposed, while 10% are
undecided.

Similarly, 56% favor a temporary block on visas prohibiting
residents of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen from
entering the United States until the government approves its ability to
screen for likely terrorists. Thirty-two percent (32%) oppose this
temporary ban, and 11% are undecided.
-----------------------------------------

The media failed to capture the pulse of the American public leading up
to the 2016 presidential election.

Are they displaying how tone deaf they are yet again on this issue?

The Truth Sayer

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Jan 31, 2017, 12:07:02 PM1/31/17
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During Inauguration Day in Washington, former “Happy Stars” star Scott
Baio was accosted by a group of anarchist thugs who called him a fascist
and reportedly lunged at him.

Speaking on Fox News early Sunday morning, the actor offered up a valid
theory for why protesters at the inauguration had behaved so poorly.

“They are in the last throes of a dying party,” he said. “They don’t
know what to do. They can’t believe that they lost so they’re getting
violent. The ‘tolerant’ people are the most vicious, violent, intolerant
people I’ve ever seen.”

He also described what exactly happened on Inauguration Day. Apparently,
one of the anti-Trump protesters called Baio a “fascist” and then lifted
his arm up as if he was about to swing at the actor. Thanks to the help
of both his wife and Fox Business Network contributor Charlie Gasparino,
however, Baio was able to evade being hurt.

Continuing his statement on Fox News, Baio added, “These people are a
little unhinged.”

Very unhinged, actually — they are very unhinged. As reported by TMZ,
numerous fights broke out during the inaugural festivities. Moreover,
protesters against the inauguration of President Donald Trump also
destroyed a limo and vandalized property:

At least 200 of these violent leftists were eventually arrested that
otherwise peaceful day, and at least six police officers were injured
“when protesters flung bricks, trash cans and other objects” at them,
according to NBC.

Yet despite all this malarkey, Donald Trump still remains the president
of the United States, and this will not change any time soon — no matter
how “unhinged” the radical left chooses to act.

Nurse Ratched

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Feb 1, 2017, 3:52:06 AM2/1/17
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:49:58 -0600, The Truth Slayer, a.k.a.
Bob_Copter_Six wrote:

> President Trump ordered the Department of Homeland Security Friday to
> start releasing information regarding honor killings and other
> gender-based acts of violence committed against women by immigrants in
> the country.

Interesting...

Will he now also order the Attorney General's Department to start
releasing the stats on _American_ men murdering, raping, and
committing other acts of violence against women?

I can't wait for _those_ stats... Oh, I forgot, Trump only has a
problem if those crimes are committed
by non-Americans.

BTW, what's an "immigrant", Bobby Dearest?

Aren't all non-Native Americans immigrants? Whites, Blacks, Mexicans,
ALL are immigrants or decended from immigrants.

Has Trump pondered the inscription on the Statue of Liberty lately?

Is he gonna rename it the Statue of White Male Supremacy, Bobby
Dearest?

I've got a feeling that life for Trump's apologists is going to get
weirder and weirder soon...

Bwahahahahahahaha...




Love and kisses,

Mildred



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US war cry: "Keep on killin' 'em till
they submit to our superior culture!
Hooah!!!"
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The Truth Sayer

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Feb 1, 2017, 11:57:24 AM2/1/17
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On 2/1/2017 2:52 AM, Nurse Ratched wrote:

> Has Trump pondered the inscription on the Statue of Liberty lately?


What do you give a shit? You would never be allowed to immigrate to the
USA.

We are a Country of LEGAL immigrants. I would guess Australia is sorry
now for letting the likes of you in to their good Country. Like the USA
they want people that assimilate, contribute and love their Country. Not
pieces of shit that suck off the teat all their life then bitch about
everything. No, I think Australia lost when they accepted you into the
fold.



I'd say Australia has had about enough.....

https://www.facebook.com/aussiemongrel.man/photos/a.637266593030594.1073741828.630741863683067/1227650650658849/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/aussiemongrel.man/photos/a.637266593030594.1073741828.630741863683067/1229684607122120/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/aussiemongrel.man/photos/a.637266593030594.1073741828.630741863683067/637316459692274/?type=3&theater





And this is Gerry, sitting on his ass in Australia:

https://www.facebook.com/aussiemongrel.man/photos/a.637266593030594.1073741828.630741863683067/1208429882580926/?type=3&theater

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Nurse Ratched

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Feb 2, 2017, 1:38:08 AM2/2/17
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 10:57:13 -0600, The Truth Slayer
<truth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 2/1/2017 2:52 AM, Nurse Ratched wrote:

> > Has Trump pondered the inscription on the Statue of Liberty lately?

> What do you give a shit? You would never be allowed to immigrate
> to the USA.

No problems. And given its current mental state, I wouldn't even
dream about wanting to go there... This New America? Mate, it's
become a mental asylum taken over by the inmates. Their new
"logic" is "The more un-American you can be, the more American
you are."

> Like the USA they want people that assimilate...

I assimilated perfectly - for a while...

I totally believed the bullshit I was taught in school and by the
media - I blindly hated communists. I went "all the way with LBJ"
and went to Vietnam to help America kill millions in Vietnam, Laos
and Cambodia to try to make those countries safe for American
corporations. You can't be more "Aussie" than that, mate.

Years later, after I'd grown up a bit, after I grew a few more brain
cells, I started to ask myself a few questions.

Like, "why did we go to kill communists in Vietnam when it was
perfectly legal to be a communist in Australia?"

Like, "why do we kill people on the basis of their economic ideology?"

Like, "why do we say "repressive regimes are evil" and then support
and install repressive regimes whenever it's in our 'interests'?"

Like, "why do we actively destroy democracy in countries whose
ideology we don't like?"

Like, "why did we allow Australia to become a vassal state of America
- a country which legalises communism on its own soil and then sends
its armies to kill communists in other countries; a country which says
it believes in "the rule of law" and then breaks every one of its laws
in its insane pursuit to dominate the world?"

Like, "why did we allow ourselves to become a vassal state of America
- a country which supports and installs repressive regimes whenever
it's in its own 'interests'?"

Like, "why did we allow ourselves to become a vassal state of America
- a country which actively destroys democracy in countries whose
ideology we don't like?"

I've since "assimilated" more noble values. Values which I believe
all Australians would be well advised to embrace.

But here's the joke, Bobby Dearest: You know how you've got Mexican
blood in you? You know how TrumpTrumpTrump is building that wall?
What makes you think he's not going to DNA test all Americans and
expell those who have "un-American genes"?

Be afraid, Bobby Dearest, be very afraid.

Oh, and whilst we're on the subject, I hear tell that TrumpTrumpTrump
is going to issue a decree, in the interests of purifying Amercan
culture, to ban the making and eating of Tex-Mex food.

Here's something poetic for you to ponder, Bobby Dearest:

============================

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
- because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out
- because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
- because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out
- because I was not a Muslim.

Then they came for the Mexicans, and I did not speak out
-because I was not a full-blood Mexican.

Then they came for me
- and the "patriots" looked the other way.

- - - - - - -

Bwahahahahahaha...

[Apologies to Martin Niemöller]

============================

NEWSFLASH !!! TrumpTrumpTrump disses Australia's Prime Minister.

If I were the PM, I'd shut the US bases here and send the arrogant
pricks packing!!! Watch TrumpTrumpTrump start grovelling _then_ !

The Truth Sayer

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Feb 2, 2017, 12:51:36 PM2/2/17
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On 2/2/2017 12:38 AM, Nurse Ratched wrote:

> But here's the joke, Bobby Dearest: You know how you've got Mexican
> blood in you?


Bwahahahahahahah!!!! That would come as a surprise to my ancestors. :)
But do you know, being Austrian, you have a significant amount of
Neanderthal in you...... It explains a lot actually. :)

The Truth Sayer

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Feb 2, 2017, 1:03:47 PM2/2/17
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Thousands of Scientists Declare Obama a LIAR: ‘Climate Change a Complete
Hoax and Scam’



http://truthuncensored.net/thousands-of-scientists-declare-obama-liar-climate-change-a-complete-hoax-and-scam/


President Obama declared in his State of the Union Address in December,
“No challenge – no challenge – poses a greater threat to future
generations than climate change.”

Not the growing threat of radical Islamic terrorism, not an ever-growing
debt that is quickly approaching $20 trillion, none of that. According
to Obama, the greatest threat facing Americans today is climate change,
which was previously referred to global warming.

Obama went on to say:

“Look, if anybody still wants to dispute the science around climate
change, have at it,” Obama said. “You’ll be pretty lonely, because
you’ll be debating our military, most of America’s business leaders, the
majority of the American people, almost the entire scientific community
and 200 nations around the world who agree it’s a problem and intend to
solve it.”

Well, guess what Obama, over 30,000 scientists have come forward and
said that ‘catastrophic man-made global warming’ is a complete hoax and
science lie.

According to Natural News, one of these experts is Weather Channel
founder John Coleman, who is now warning that the election could prove
to be a “tipping point” in favor of people like Al Gore, who continues
to amass vast fortunes based on the global warming scam.

In a recent interview with Climate Depot, Coleman said:

“Al Gore may emerge from the shadows to declare victory in the ‘global
warming’ debate if Hillary Clinton moves into the White House. Yes, if
that happens and the new climate regulations become the law of the land,
they will be next to impossible to overturn for four to eight years.”

Climate change proponents remain undeterred in their mission, ignoring
numerous recent scientific findings indicating that there has been no
warming trend at all for nearly two decades.

Al Gore’s dire predictions of the melting of polar ice on a massive
scale have proved to be completely false. In fact, in 2014 – a year that
was touted as being “the hottest ever” in the Earth’s history – there
were record amounts of ice reported in Antarctica, an increase in Arctic
ice, and record snowfalls across the globe.
Debunking the “97 percent” lie

On top of those “inconvenient truths,” the White House’s assertion that
97 percent of scientists agree that global warming is real has been
completely debunked. Several independently-researched examinations of
the literature used to support the “97 percent” statement found that the
conclusions were cherry-picked and misleading.

More objective surveys have revealed that there is a far greater
diversity of opinion among scientists than the global warming crowd
would like for you to believe.

From the National Review:

“A 2008 survey by two German scientists, Dennis Bray and Hans von
Storch, found that a significant number of scientists were skeptical of
the ability of existing global climate models to accurately predict
global temperatures, precipitation, sea-level changes, or extreme
weather events even over a decade; they were far more skeptical as the
time horizon increased.”

Other mainstream news sources besides the National Review have also been
courageous enough to speak out against the global warming propaganda –
even the Wall Street Journal published an op-ed piece in 2015
challenging the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) pseudoscience being
promulgated by global warming proponents.

And, of course, there are the more than 31,000 American scientists (to
date) who have signed a petition challenging the climate change
narrative and 9,029 of them hold PhDs in their respective fields. But
hey, Obama, Al Gore and his cronies have also ignored that inconvenient
truth, as well.

Many of those scientists who signed the petition were likely encouraged
to speak out in favor of the truth after retired senior NASA atmospheric
scientist John L. Casey revealed that solar cycles are largely
responsible for warming periods on Earth – not human activity.
Al Gore and his cronies continue getting richer from the global warming hoax

But the global warming crowd continues to push their agenda on the
public while lining their pockets in the process. If you’re still
inclined to believe what Al Gore has to say about global warming, please
consider the fact that since he embarked on his crusade, his wealth has
grown from $2 million in 2001 to $100 million in 2016 – largely due to
investments in fake “green tech” companies and the effective
embezzlement of numerous grants and loans.

President Donald Trump on the climate change policy: ‘I believe it’s a
big scam for a lot of people to make a lot of money.”


Over 30,000 scientists say 'Catastrophic Man-Made Global Warming' is a
complete hoax and science lie
http://www.naturalnews.com/055151_global_warming_science_hoax_climate_skepticism.html


Soros Paid Al Gore Millions to Push Global Warming Policies
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55357

Load of bollocks: 2016 allegedly ‘hottest year’ by unmeasureable 1/100
of a degree
http://www.climatedepot.com/


Cancer researcher now crusading against fake science journals after
discovering cesspool of published “fake science” papers
http://www.climatesciencenews.com/


Top university stole millions from taxpayers by faking global warming
research
http://www.naturalnews.com/global_warming.html


The REAL FAKE NEWS exposed: '97% of scientists agree on climate change'
is an engineered hoax... here's what the media never told you
http://www.naturalnews.com/scientists.html



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The Truth Sayer

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On 2/2/2017 12:38 AM, Nurse Ratched wrote:



First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Muslim.

Then they came for the Social Justice Warriors, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Social Justice Warrior.

Then they stopped coming, because everything was peaceful. Ahh, peace.

Nurse Ratched

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Feb 3, 2017, 7:35:09 AM2/3/17
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On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:54:42 -0600, The Truth Sayer
<truth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
> because I was not a Socialist.
>
> Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out
> because I was not a Muslim.
>
> Then they came for the Social Justice Warriors, and I did not speak out
> because I was not a Social Justice Warrior.
>
> Then they stopped coming, because everything was peaceful. Ahh, peace.

In your hypothetical, why did they stop coming, Bobby Dearest?

[1] Because "they" got sick of the killing?

[2] Because "they" killed all of them?

[3] Because "they" woke up to themselves?

Nurse Ratched

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Feb 3, 2017, 7:40:00 AM2/3/17
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On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:51:20 -0600, The Truth Sayer
<truth...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> But do you know, being Austrian, you have a significant amount of
> Neanderthal in you...... It explains a lot actually. :)

I'm Australian. Neither of my parents were Austrian. My genetic
lineage would be closer to Gabriela's than the average Austrian's.
It could be you married one of my cousins' daughters..

Bwahahaha...

The Truth Sayer

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Feb 3, 2017, 1:35:19 PM2/3/17
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On 2/3/2017 6:35 AM, Nurse Ratched wrote:

> In your hypothetical, why did they stop coming, Bobby Dearest?


Then they came
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