Wake-Up Call For Republicans; 67% of New Yorkers Agree With Protesters

[Bob G.]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/17/poll-most-new-yorkers-side-with-protesters/

81% of Democrats approve.

Bad news for Republicans is 58% of independents approve.

Maybe worse news for Republicans is 35% of Republicans also approve.
There ARE moderates in the Republican Party.

Continue to disdain this movement at your peril, Tea Partiers.

Bob G

[**Dalin**]

I live in New York State and I can tell you that thought the people in
the city may agree with the 'views' of the protesters they do not
agree with their parks being trashed, or with the extra money a broke
city has to pay for overtime for the police. Instead of listening to
a poll which did not say they were in favor of protesting, just the
views, read a couple local newspapers. NYC votes Democrat and
because they outnumber the rest of the people in the state, does not
mean the rest of the people in the state which are mostly Republican
agree with their views at all. Do the same poll in my area and you
will get exact opposite results.

Again, siding with views, does not mean they side with the manner in
which those views are being demonstrated.

Dalin

[Bob G.]

On Oct 17, 2:28 pm, **Dalin** <l...@usa.net> wrote:
 Do the same poll in my area and you
> will get exact opposite results.

You sure? Do the poll and find out.

>
> Again, siding with views, does not mean they side with the manner in
> which those views are being demonstrated.  

Irrelevant if they support the goals.

Bob G

[**Dalin**]

It's not irrelevant. How things are done is very important.

Have you watched any of the multitude of videos available? Take a
close look at these kids. They are not the hippies of the 60s. A few
have long hair and maybe a beard, but not many. They don't have jeans
down around their hips. Most of them are clean cut, no nose rings, no
head bands, no tattoos, no earrings. And that's because in their
hearts they are still part of mainstream America.

When they graduate from college they will cut their hair, put on their
suits and go knocking at large businesses for a job and many of them
will find them. And then they will become the average American
wanting a home, car, family, bank account. Too bad we can't follow a
few of them after they graduate.

How many do you think, after being in debt for thousands of dollars in
student loans, will go volunteer for the Peace Corp? How many will go
apply for a job as a vacuum cleaner salesman as their first choice of
employment?

They are young, idealistic, haven't lost their idealism yet and it's
great they think they can change the world. Hasn't every generation?

But they have no plan that I can see to change things. They are just
costing the taxpayers a great deal of money repairing the damage they
are doing and most of the marches in various cities don't even have a
permit. They are just having fun.

Now as for the ones in Denver chanting "F*** America" do you see any
of them leaving for Canada? No, they'll stay in school and get their
degree and become a suit and laugh at the fun times they had.

Dalin

[NotMe]

"**Dalin**" <lj...@usa.net> wrote in message
news:4ea09b95...@news.individual.net...

If the cost of the policing is too great perhaps you need to talk with the
city management as a bit more enlightened approach might save a lot of
direct expense, the poor PR and the cost of legal action for abuse of police
power.

Recall Rodney King may have been the badest SO* in La but the way the police
handled themselves cost the city how many millions?

[NotMe]

"**Dalin**" <lj...@usa.net> wrote in message

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I've watched several videos made by those inside the movement and from those
outside. I see no evidence of damage much less indications of vandalism or
garbage.

Those in power especially those on Wall street and inside the board rooms of
corporations best pay attention as change is afoot and it does not bode will
for the 1%.

Good indication of which way the wind is blowing is that folk like Cantor
and most of the Pub would be candidates are changing their rhetoric. While
good that along will not help them unless they change their world view as
well.

[ylem]

On Oct 17, 2:06 pm, "Bob G." <rlloydgeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/17/poll-most-new-yorkers...

>
> 81% of Democrats approve.
>
> Bad news for Republicans is 58% of independents approve.
>
> Maybe worse news for Republicans is 35% of Republicans also approve.
> There ARE moderates in the Republican Party.
>
> Continue to disdain this movement at your peril, Tea Partiers.
>
> Bob G

It won't mean much if the justifiable outrage of the Occupy protestors
doesn't translate into votes against the evil Wall Street stooges and
Republican lackeys in congress.

Occupy group should descend upon districts that have voted for right-
wing assholes, like Eric Cantor, and literally shut those districts
down ... better yet, boycott every business in those districts.

Occupy needs to shut down "business as usual."
Ylem

[ylem]

On Oct 17, 4:32 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "**Dalin**" <l...@usa.net> wrote in message

Consider the source.
Ylem

[Jan]

Please don't give them any ideas Dalin? As far as I can see, this whole thing
has been engineered and the people involved can't see the joke. It's a protest
looking for a reason. We've had a few protests here, London had about 15 or 20
turn out, but it was wet and windy so they went home.<g> Toronto has one group,
the priceless comment was, "We need more toilet paper", this is left wing
thinking where someone else has to take care of them.<g>

Jan
"If you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have joined"

[ylem]

On Oct 17, 6:41 pm, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:

> Please don't give them any ideas Dalin? As far as I can see,  this whole thing

> has been engineered ...

Keep lying to yourself ...
Ylem

[Bob G.]

Ylem, it would not surprise me to learn that General Gage had much the
same reaction as Jan and Dalin when he looked up at the campfires
surrounding Boston in April of '75.

Bob G

[4321Geno]

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The one important thing Dalen is not steal elections as do the
Republicans.

[Bob G.]

On Oct 17, 6:29 pm, ylem <primordial_y...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It won't mean much if the justifiable outrage of the Occupy protestors
> doesn't translate into votes against the evil Wall Street stooges and
> Republican lackeys in congress.
>
> Occupy group should descend upon districts that have voted for right-
> wing assholes, like Eric Cantor, and literally shut those districts
> down ... better yet, boycott every business in those districts.
>
> Occupy needs to shut down "business as usual."
> Ylem

I believe they will take a page from General Nathan Forest, "Keep up
the skeer!"

Bob G

[4321Geno]

On Oct 17, 7:32 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "**Dalin**" <l...@usa.net> wrote in message

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Just as the Democratic Blue Dogs killed the Democratic Party, Cantor
is killing the Republican Party. Can you see Cantor kissing Cains ass
should Cain become President.

[4321Geno]

This is what the OWS are looking for. Suggestions. What most of what I
have read so far is that the OWS don't have much to do with either
party. And this is good for America as it keeps both parties guessing
on this unknown and unproved group of voters.And this will be a kiss
of death for the Tea Party.

[Bob G.]

On Oct 17, 7:11 pm, 4321Geno <geno4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> Just as the Democratic Blue Dogs killed the Democratic Party, Cantor
> is killing the Republican Party. Can you see Cantor kissing Cains ass
> should Cain become President

Or maybe the other way around? Cantor wants to be Speaker and the
House holds the purse strings.

Bob G

[4321Geno]

On Oct 17, 9:41 pm, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:

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The pictures that I saw of the London Protests show the numbers in the
tens of thousands. Those pictures came from Aljazeera. Not from the
London Times.

[4321Geno]

On Oct 17, 5:56 pm, **Dalin** <l...@usa.net> wrote:

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Your right, they are America's clean cut educated Youth. And they want
jobs that they accuse politicians and the greed of the Banking
Corporations of destroying. And they being voters themselves are going
to make sure that the politicians that will get elected will create
jobs for them. Meaning that Cantor/Boehner and their Tea Party Blue
Dogs will be sent packing.

[ylem]

Imagine .... 2000 Occupy protestors waiting outside the gated enclaves
of those who support this heinous economic system.
:)
Assholes like Ben Nelson and Eric Cantor should never know a peaceful
day or night ... they should be confronted by the consequences of
their votes in congress every day.
Ylem

[ylem]

Well certainly not with snakes that call themselves Democrats like Ben
Nelson and Joe Lieberman ... as for the Tea Party, where are they?
Cringing in their suburbs?
:)
Ylem

[Bob G.]

On Oct 17, 7:53 pm, ylem <primordial_y...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Imagine .... 2000 Occupy protesters waiting outside the gated enclaves

> of those who support this heinous economic system.
> :)
> Assholes like Ben Nelson and Eric Cantor should never know a peaceful
> day or night ... they should be confronted by the consequences of
> their votes in congress every day.

> Ylem-

Remember how we got Manuel Norina to surrender after he took refuge in
that Panamanian Monastery? Too bad we can't legally subject Cantor to
the same. We will just have to settle for loud staccato protest
chanting, no loud rock music.

Bob G

[**Dalin**]

So you haven't seen what they are doing to the park in NY then? And
the sod that has been ruined in D.C.?

>
>Those in power especially those on Wall street and inside the board rooms of
>corporations best pay attention as change is afoot and it does not bode will
>for the 1%.
>
>Good indication of which way the wind is blowing is that folk like Cantor
>and most of the Pub would be candidates are changing their rhetoric. While
>good that along will not help them unless they change their world view as
>well.
>

What may help them is that they come up with a solution. It's so easy
to complain, but what do they propose to do about that which they
don't like?

Dalin

[**Dalin**]

I like that Jan, a protest looking for a reason. :-) In Zucotti Park
they think the city should pay for Porta-Potties. What's to prevent
them from renting their own?

Dalin

[4321Geno]

On Oct 18, 11:01 am, **Dalin** <l...@usa.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:41:29 -0400, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:

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Maybe you can allow them to crap on your front lawn. Smirk

[NotMe]

"**Dalin**"

> the sod that has been ruined in DO.C.?

I have only video 'evidence' which includes claims by Fox News which shows
trash but piled for removal. It also shows what is clamed to be trash but
is clearly personal property. (Who puts trash in $100-$200 suit cases with
luggage tags? But then if you're going to 'trash' a park or any place who
puts a note on the package to the effect Here It's Me, I did this and here's
my home address and my phone number?)

I've seen video about the St. Patties Day Parade, the Gay Pride Parade and
Ethnicity of the Month Day parade in NYC and from all over. Not one
complaint about trash as it's a give that it's a responsibility of the city
to clean up. H*ll NOLA takes pride in the amount of street trash they
collect on Ash Wednesday. Too low and the city fathers begin to question if
the data is indicative that the city is losing the cash cow.

>>
>>Those in power especially those on Wall street and inside the board rooms
>>of
>>corporations best pay attention as change is afoot and it does not bode
>>will
>>for the 1%.
>>
>>Good indication of which way the wind is blowing is that folk like Cantor
>>and most of the Pub would be candidates are changing their rhetoric.
>>While
>>good that along will not help them unless they change their world view as
>>well.
>>
> What may help them is that they come up with a solution. It's so easy
> to complain, but what do they propose to do about that which they
> don't like?

The sins are the 1% are multiple, pick one or many. As to what is wanted I
can speak only for myself. Some of these are accountably, fairness, an end
to got-ch capitalism.

Texas wanted to give foreign interest the right of eminent domain for
private profit. (they did that with the Texas Rangers Ball Park in Arlington
and the Cowboy Stadium-- ranchers had to give up land at pasture prices --
so the sports teams can charge big bucks to park) I'm sure you can find a
lot of past as well as current examples.

[4321Geno]

On Oct 18, 10:57 am, **Dalin** <l...@usa.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:32:08 -0500, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>

> >"**Dalin**" <l...@usa.net> wrote in message

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Change it. As did Obama to get elected then turned tail on his
promises.

[**Dalin**]

Then you should be looking at the amateur videos by New Yorkers of the
trash.

>
>I've seen video about the St. Patties Day Parade, the Gay Pride Parade and
>Ethnicity of the Month Day parade in NYC and from all over. Not one
>complaint about trash as it's a give that it's a responsibility of the city
>to clean up. H*ll NOLA takes pride in the amount of street trash they
>collect on Ash Wednesday. Too low and the city fathers begin to question if
>the data is indicative that the city is losing the cash cow.

The city would like to clean it up. They can't because they would
have to evict the protesters. And to do that would start a riot for
sure.

>
>
>>>
>>>Those in power especially those on Wall street and inside the board rooms
>>>of
>>>corporations best pay attention as change is afoot and it does not bode
>>>will
>>>for the 1%.
>>>
>>>Good indication of which way the wind is blowing is that folk like Cantor
>>>and most of the Pub would be candidates are changing their rhetoric.
>>>While
>>>good that along will not help them unless they change their world view as
>>>well.
>>>
>> What may help them is that they come up with a solution. It's so easy
>> to complain, but what do they propose to do about that which they
>> don't like?
>
>The sins are the 1% are multiple, pick one or many. As to what is wanted I
>can speak only for myself. Some of these are accountably, fairness, an end
>to got-ch capitalism.
>
>Texas wanted to give foreign interest the right of eminent domain for
>private profit. (they did that with the Texas Rangers Ball Park in Arlington
>and the Cowboy Stadium-- ranchers had to give up land at pasture prices --
>so the sports teams can charge big bucks to park) I'm sure you can find a
>lot of past as well as current examples.

That was Texas government, not Wall Street.

Dalin
>
>
>
>

[Jan]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:45:15 -0700 (PDT), ylem <primord...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

You do it enough.

[Jan]

I'm talking about London, Ontario you senile old fool. The numbers in London,
England were estimated at 2-3,000, a far cry from your imaginary tens of
thousands. In Toronto, more people turn out for the marathon.

[Jan]

Simple answer, they are liberals/socialists/Marxists who want someone else to
pay for their convenience, no doubt they want toilet paper provided as well.
Next will be someone to wipe their behinds.<g>

[**Dalin**]

Ylem's answer to anyone who puts forth a statement that he cannot
refute is to call them a liar or go away for a few days on a trip.
LOL!

Dalin

[NotMe]

"**Dalin**" <lj...@usa.net> wrote in message

news:4ea0d721...@news.individual.net...

Do you really believe that? There are interlocking directorships in the 1%
that engineer these deals.

FWIW it was the Bush Family Deal which is how GWB got his good old boy 5%
interest in the Ball Team. Which was BTW the only business young George
ever had an interest the did not lose money.

[**Dalin**]

I believed YOU when you said it was the Texas government that was
responsible for the eminent domain grab, and we have sold many of our
major corporations to foreign companies. My husband used to work for
Mutual of New York which was sold to France I believe.

Dalin
>

[ylem]

I respect the British commanders too much to use them in this
context ... I'd prefer to compare the right-wingers to their
ideological counterparts ... Field Marshall Friedrich Paulus, waking
up one morning to discover that he was surrounded by the armies of
General Georgy Zhukov at Stalingrad.
:)
But let's not get ahead of ourselves...these neo-Fascist swine are
actively trying (and may succeed) in suppressing the vote.

And if they succeed - they could elect an illegal right-wing
government.
Then watch the shit hit the fan!
They think it's bad now?
Just wait.
Ylem

[ylem]

Play Rap music at him ... that terrible stuff can kill a billy goat.
Ylem

[NotMe]

"**Dalin**" <lj...@usa.net> wrote in message

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The point was as an example, Texas being but one and the reality was there
was/is a big money connection. Another good example is the Keystone Pipe
line project. Even though the deal has not been approve those behind that
deal have something on the order of 30 court cases attempting to exercise
rights of imminent domain.

[4321Geno]

On Oct 18, 4:05 pm, Music Lover <a...@hushmail.com> wrote:

> > Change it. As did Obama to get elected then  turned tail on his
> > promises.
>

> Then that's where they should be. At the doorstep of those that control
> what Wall Street can and cannot do.

You're not a very astute person when it comes to politics.

[4321Geno]

On Oct 18, 4:51 pm, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:01:50 GMT, **Dalin** <l...@usa.net> wrote:
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:41:29 -0400, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:

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Do you really believe that Malarkey.

[4321Geno]

On Oct 18, 4:48 pm, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:

And I'm telling you the pictures I saw the group that was shown A
(panorama) the size had to be in the tens of thousands. Nit Pick all
you wish as numbers that are accurate are the actual persons who did
attended. The next demonstration should be interesting as It's called
Withdraw you account and place it in a small local bank or Credit
Union. That should play hell with big size banks balance sheets such
as BOA and the likes.

[4321Geno]

On Oct 18, 5:09 pm, **Dalin** <l...@usa.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:42:29 -0400, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:45:15 -0700 (PDT), ylem <primordial_y...@yahoo.com>

> >wrote:
>
> >>On Oct 17, 6:41 pm, Jan <johnr...@bell.net> wrote:
>
> >>> Please don't give them any ideas Dalin? As far as I can see,  this whole thing
> >>> has been engineered ...
>
> >>Keep lying to yourself ...
> >>Ylem
>
> >You do it enough.
>
> >Jan
> >"If you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have joined"
>
> Ylem's answer to anyone who puts forth a statement that he cannot
> refute is to call them a liar or go away for a few days on a trip.
> LOL!
>

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Boy the Occupiers certainly got to You. Never have seen so much foot
stomping from you ever before.

[4321Geno]

On Oct 18, 9:13 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "**Dalin**" <l...@usa.net> wrote in message

>
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>
>
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>
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> > On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:05:48 -0500, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>

> >>"**Dalin**" <l...@usa.net> wrote in message

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Do you know how many world wide Oil Corporations have their
Headquarters in Huston Texas? It's more likely that the King of Saudi
Arabia rules Texas than American Texan politicians.

[NotMe]

"4321Geno" <geno...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:47550a8a-318b-4f52...@a25g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

{{

Right now the Big Banks don't give a rats behind about losing the small
accounts. At some point the world will reset and they will come back
trolling for the small accounts. At that point it will be a lost cause.

[NotMe]

"4321Geno" <geno...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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{{

I've been in the oil patch going back to the late 50's and have done
business in Houston almost as long. The reality is that oil industry
controls not the politicians much less King Abdullah.

[Jan]

Truth really shocks you union goons doesn't it?

[**Dalin**]

Wait until I start waving my arms too. <g>
Dalin