Jewish Subversion
age...@post.cz
role of Jews in pushing through immigration reform
in America -- which has forever changed the face of
that country, and in which Whites are now projected
to be relegated to racial minority status in 2050,
according to the US Census Bureau -- is a must-read
for anyone who is seriously interested in making a
study of the ways in which the parasitic Jew
contaminates every culture he infests. At any rate,
MacDonald does a masterful job of demonstrating the
extent of Jewish subversion of America and American
culture. The paper is available at his website in
PDF format:
http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/paper/ABERNET3.PDF
It requires the Adobe Acrobat reader, which is
freeware available from Adobe, at:
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html
Cheers,
99
--
"Ye [i.e., the Jews] are of your father the devil, and the
lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the
beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no
truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar, and the father of it."
--John 8:44
Joseph Hertzlinger
>Kevin MacDonald's scholarly paper on the pivotal
>role of Jews in pushing through immigration reform
>in America -- which has forever changed the face of
>that country, and in which Whites are now projected
>to be relegated to racial minority status in 2050,
>according to the US Census Bureau -- is a must-read
>for anyone who is seriously interested in making a
>study of the ways in which the parasitic Jew
>contaminates every culture he infests.
Even if we International Bankers pushed through
pro-immigration laws, why should that be considered
"subversion"?
Pyro 1488
>Even if we International Bankers pushed through
>pro-immigration laws, why should that be considered
>"subversion"?
Add 100 and 75, then divide that by 2. There is your answer.
Pyro
--
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white
children." -- 14 Words
age...@post.cz
>
>On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:00:42 +0200, age...@post.cz
><age...@post.cz> wrote:
>
>>Kevin MacDonald's scholarly paper on the pivotal
>>role of Jews in pushing through immigration reform
>>in America -- which has forever changed the face of
>>that country, and in which Whites are now projected
>>to be relegated to racial minority status in 2050,
>>according to the US Census Bureau -- is a must-read
>>for anyone who is seriously interested in making a
>>study of the ways in which the parasitic Jew
>>contaminates every culture he infests.
>
>pro-immigration laws, why should that be considered
>"subversion"?
Or in other words, if the political machinations of
you Jews cause the adoption of a policy which destroys
the White race in America through a silent genocide of
racial admixture, why should that be considered a bad
thing? And why should the decline of Western culture
itself -- an inevitable consequence of diminishing
White cultural influence and relative numbers --
be considered a bad thing? Perhaps that *is*
unreasonable; but only if you place no value on
the survival of the White race, and Western culture.
However, I have a different opinion.
On the other hand, one may well ask, if this sort of
subversion is discovered by the still-dominant culture,
would not the harshest reprisals be in order? Would
it not be entirely acceptable and perfect justice if
the offending minority were to be purged, or even
destroyed? Hmmm. I think so. ;-)
Regards,
99
--
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians [minnim] and others
who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished
there for all generations.
Joseph Hertzlinger
<age...@post.cz> wrote:
>jher...@ix.netcom.com (Joseph Hertzlinger) schrieb:
>>Even if we International Bankers pushed through
>>pro-immigration laws, why should that be considered
>>"subversion"?
>
>Or in other words, if the political machinations of
>you Jews cause the adoption of a policy which destroys
>the White race in America through a silent genocide of
>racial admixture, why should that be considered a bad
>thing?
Why would letting in non-"Whites" cause racial admixture?
If these non-"Whites" are so inferior why would any "White"
marry them? Maybe this can be considered to be method
of dumping inferior genes from the "White" race into a
mixed-race pool. (The phrase "urinating in the gene pool"
comes to mind.) Think of it a method of increasing the
supply of servants.
OTOH, maybe non-whites aren't inferior after all. There
have been numerous earlier claims that Germans (or Celts or
Mediterraneans or Slavs or Jews) would never be able to fit
into civilization. Why is this nativist claim different from
all other nativist claims?
That might explain the connection between anti-semitism and
racism. If racists can make a case that at least one nativist
claim turned out to be right, they sound far more plausible.
In other words, if Jews should be kept out then we have a
case that Jews should be kept out.
Can you say "circular reasoning"? I knew you could.
>And why should the decline of Western culture
>itself -- an inevitable consequence of diminishing
>White cultural influence and relative numbers --
>be considered a bad thing?
According to the noted crackpot Oswald Spengler, Western
Culture died in the early 19th century. What we have now
is Western Civilization. In that case, we clearly need
people who are expert in running civilizations. We
Sumerians have the most expertise, of course, but Chinese,
Indians, Arabs, etc. can also play a role.
>On the other hand, one may well ask, if this sort of
>subversion is discovered by the still-dominant culture,
>would not the harshest reprisals be in order? Would
>it not be entirely acceptable and perfect justice if
>the offending minority were to be purged, or even
>destroyed? Hmmm. I think so. ;-)
Been there. Done that.
"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great historical facts
and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten
to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as
farce." --- Karl Marx
Speaking of Karl Marx:
>Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians [minnim] and others
>who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished
>there for all generations.
The term "minnim" only applies to Jews who believe in
heretical ideas. That means Karl Marx went to hell.
age...@post.cz
>
>On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:57:36 +0200, age...@post.cz
><age...@post.cz> wrote:
>
>>jher...@ix.netcom.com (Joseph Hertzlinger) schrieb:
>
>>>Even if we International Bankers pushed through
>>>pro-immigration laws, why should that be considered
>>>"subversion"?
>>
>>Or in other words, if the political machinations of
>>you Jews cause the adoption of a policy which destroys
>>the White race in America through a silent genocide of
>>racial admixture, why should that be considered a bad
>>thing?
>
>Why would letting in non-"Whites" cause racial admixture?
>If these non-"Whites" are so inferior why would any "White"
>marry them? Maybe this can be considered to be method
>of dumping inferior genes from the "White" race into a
>mixed-race pool. (The phrase "urinating in the gene pool"
>comes to mind.) Think of it a method of increasing the
>supply of servants.
>
>OTOH, maybe non-whites aren't inferior after all. There
>have been numerous earlier claims that Germans (or Celts or
>Mediterraneans or Slavs or Jews) would never be able to fit
>into civilization. Why is this nativist claim different from
>all other nativist claims?
You don't fit into Western culture, and neither
do other non-Whites. That is precisely my point.
You contaminate everything you touch.
>
>That might explain the connection between anti-semitism and
>racism. If racists can make a case that at least one nativist
>claim turned out to be right, they sound far more plausible.
>In other words, if Jews should be kept out then we have a
>case that Jews should be kept out.
The Bolshevik Jews caused up to 60 million Gentiles
to die as a consequence of the Russian Revolution,
not to mention the tens of millions more who have
died in China and Southeast Asia as a result of the
cultural pollution excreted by the criminal JEW Karl
Marx.
Will you now present more evidence of your dishonesty
by not admitting this or more evidence of your
stupidity in not getting it through your head?
>
>Can you say "circular reasoning"? I knew you could.
>
>>And why should the decline of Western culture
>>itself -- an inevitable consequence of diminishing
>>White cultural influence and relative numbers --
>>be considered a bad thing?
>
>According to the noted crackpot Oswald Spengler, Western
>Culture died in the early 19th century. What we have now
>is Western Civilization. In that case, we clearly need
>people who are expert in running civilizations. We
>Sumerians have the most expertise, of course, but Chinese,
>Indians, Arabs, etc. can also play a role.
Well, I'm glad to see that you've read Spengler.
(You have, haven't you?) If you have, you should pay
particular attention to the last few pages of his
magnum opus, wherein he predicts that it is the press
-- i.e., the media, to bring it into contemporary terms
-- which will cause the final decline of the West.
The Jewish control of communications media is undeniable,
even by you. The corruption it purveys is equally
undeniable to anyone with eyes and ears.
>
>>On the other hand, one may well ask, if this sort of
>>subversion is discovered by the still-dominant culture,
>>would not the harshest reprisals be in order? Would
>>it not be entirely acceptable and perfect justice if
>>the offending minority were to be purged, or even
>>destroyed? Hmmm. I think so. ;-)
>
>Been there. Done that.
Yes, it's deja vu all over again, isn't it? <g>
>
>"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great historical facts
>and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten
>to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as
>farce." --- Karl Marx
>
>Speaking of Karl Marx:
>
>>Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians [minnim] and others
>>who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished
>>there for all generations.
>
>The term "minnim" only applies to Jews who believe in
>heretical ideas. That means Karl Marx went to hell.
>
That is your interpretation. Moses Maimonides, who is
revered by the Jews, and who is the foremost expositor
of the Jewish doctrine of oppression and racial supremacy --
also known as the Talmud -- has another.
Maimonides, in his Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing
Corporation, Brooklyn, New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English
translation, p. 184), delcares: "It is a mitzvah [religious duty],
however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim,
and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since
they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away
from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and
Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the
wicked rot."
Cheers,
99
--
On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer
Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn,
massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children,
while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was
a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane,
who told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are
"dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes,
"Kahane").
Pyro 1488
>OTOH, maybe non-whites aren't inferior after all. There
>have been numerous earlier claims that Germans (or Celts or
>Mediterraneans or Slavs or Jews) would never be able to fit
>into civilization. Why is this nativist claim different from
>all other nativist claims?
Your post is utterly vacuous. Apparently, you need to read up on the
ancient Etruscans, Minoans, and Sumerians. All were -- at least
initially -- Old European, or Mediterranean.
>>And why should the decline of Western culture
>>itself -- an inevitable consequence of diminishing
>>White cultural influence and relative numbers --
>>be considered a bad thing?
>
>According to the noted crackpot Oswald Spengler, Western
>Culture died in the early 19th century. What we have now
>is Western Civilization. In that case, we clearly need
>people who are expert in running civilizations. We
>Sumerians have the most expertise, of course, but Chinese,
>Indians, Arabs, etc. can also play a role.
"We Sumerians"? As I pointed out, the Sumerian civilization -- which arose
c. 3500 B.C. -- was initially comprised of Mediterraneans. At about 2335
B.C., Akkadians, who were Semitic, invaded Sumer and established "The
Kingdom of Sumer and Akkad." Subsequently, Jews began entering in large
numbers along with other Semitic peoples, thus creating a
mediterranean/Semitic race. At about 2200 B.C., an Indo-European tribe
called the Gutians invaded the empire, bringing a significant infusion of
Nordic blood. At about 2000 B.C., the Amorites invaded the empire, adding
more of a Nordic appearance to the people in the region.
It should be noted that Sumerian civilization peaked after the invasions of
Indo-European tribes. Just an FYI, the Sumerians are credited with the
first writing system (which came to influence Egyptian hieroglyphics) called
cuneiform, in addition to inventing the wheel, the plow, and the sailboat.
In Hammurabi's famous law code, he is referred to as "the White King", and
some of the people within the confines of his empire are described as "black
haired."
"The British anthropologists Dudley Buxton and Talbot Rice found skulls
among human remains excavated at the Sumerian palace at Kish in Mesopotamia.
Similar skulls were found by the French anthropologist H.V. Vallois amongst
remains collected at Sialk, halfway between Teheran and Isfahan, north east
of Kish; and in the Indus river valley R.B.S. Sewell and B.S. Guha of the
Zoological Survey of India also found similar skulls: all have been
positively identified as belonging to the (now virtually extinct)
Mediterranean White subrace." (Race, John R Baker, Oxford University Press,
1974, page 511)
(Source: Europa: History of the White Race. Ostara Publications, 1999)
The Hittites (of Asia Minor), who are credited as being the first to use
iron, were an Indo-European people. They helped bring down the Babylonian
empire at about 1600 B.C., but were influenced by Hammurabi's law code.
From the 9th century to about the 7th century B.C., the Assyrians had
control of this region. BTW, the word Assyrian is said to be a corruption
of the word Aryan.
The Phoenicians, who are credited with developing the alphabet, were also in
part Mediterranean.
>>On the other hand, one may well ask, if this sort of
>>subversion is discovered by the still-dominant culture,
>>would not the harshest reprisals be in order? Would
>>it not be entirely acceptable and perfect justice if
>>the offending minority were to be purged, or even
>>destroyed? Hmmm. I think so. ;-)
>
>Been there. Done that.
The Jews have been purged thousands of times in history, literally.
Apparently, Hitler didn't have the "been there, done that" attitude, and
neither will future generations, if Jews continue to behave as subversively
as they have.
>"Hegel remarks somewhere that all great historical facts
>and personages occur, as it were, twice. He has forgotten
>to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as
>farce." --- Karl Marx
I asked Shadow earlier to name some Jewish intellectuals and artists equal
in rank to Shakespeare, Michaelangelo, Isaac Newton and Mozart. Did this
irk you subconsciously to the point that you felt you must quote a Jewish
thinker on another thread? Ha! Sorry to tell you, Marx is no Socrates,
Plato, or Aristotle! Nowhere near! What's next, are you going to quote Ayn
Rand? (Pyro laughs out loud).
Pyro says: Second-rate, if not third-rate.
By the way, you have a lot in common with Peter, JH.
Pyro
Pyro 1488
>Why would letting in non-"Whites" cause racial admixture?
>If these non-"Whites" are so inferior why would any "White"
>marry them? Maybe this can be considered to be method
>of dumping inferior genes from the "White" race into a
>mixed-race pool. (The phrase "urinating in the gene pool"
>comes to mind.) Think of it a method of increasing the
>supply of servants.
Study what happened to the Sumerians, Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans as a
result of racial admixture. I really believe Egypt would be a formidable
superpower today had it been able to retain its Mediterranean and
Proto-Nordic population.
>OTOH, maybe non-whites aren't inferior after all. There
>have been numerous earlier claims that Germans (or Celts or
>Mediterraneans or Slavs or Jews) would never be able to fit
>into civilization. Why is this nativist claim different from
>all other nativist claims?
Well, this is a bit too general for me. The Celts in large part settled in
western and central Europe, in addition to the British Isles, among other
parts. However, people referred to as "Celtic" today are those who have
retained remnants of the Celtic culture, notably in their language (i.e.,
the Irish, those in Scottish highlands, the Welsh, and some in Gascony).
Thus, plenty of the original European colonists with English ancestry had
Celtic blood in them, in addition to the French that helped Americans out
during the Revolutionary War, who were certainly not considered inferior.
In ancient times, not an insignificant number of Mediterraneans mixed with
Scandinavians. Thus, not all in Northern Europe today are tall with blonde
hair and blue eyes.
While Rome was still a superpower, at least 100,000 Romans (then a
Mediterranean/Germanic mix) were stationed in the British Isles to prevent
insurrections, most of which got absorbed into the population.
German tribes such as the Latins played a role in building and sustaining
ancient Rome. Other related (Indo-European) tribes played a role in
building ancient Greece (i.e., the Mycaenae and Dorians).
Jews today are no longer pure Semites; they have blood in them from all
"white" groups: from Proto-Nordics, Indo-Europeans, Alpines, to
Mediterraneans. Eastern European Jews, known as the Ashkenazim, have some
Turkoslavic blood from the Khazaric nobles who converted to Judaism (c. 750
B.C.) For this reason, many Jews today are indistinguishable from the
average Caucasian, although many Jews do have predominant "Jewish" features
(i.e., hook-nose, thick eyebrows, frizzy hair, and slanted eyes, etc.) Jews
may also have a significant amount of blood from other racial groups.
Pyro
Pyro 1488
"Eastern European Jews, known as the Ashkenazim, have some Turkoslavic blood
from the Khazaric nobles who converted to Judaism (c. 750 B.C.)"
Sorry, meant to say 750 A.D.
Pyro
Joseph Hertzlinger
>Joseph Hertzlinger wrote:
>
>>OTOH, maybe non-whites aren't inferior after all. There
>>have been numerous earlier claims that Germans (or Celts or
>>Mediterraneans or Slavs or Jews) would never be able to fit
>>into civilization. Why is this nativist claim different from
>>all other nativist claims?
>
>Your post is utterly vacuous. Apparently, you need to read up on the
>ancient Etruscans, Minoans, and Sumerians. All were -- at least
>initially -- Old European, or Mediterranean.
I should have specified "American civilization."
>"We Sumerians"?
Didn't Abraham come from Ur?
>From the 9th century to about the 7th century B.C., the Assyrians had
>control of this region. BTW, the word Assyrian is said to be a corruption
>of the word Aryan.
"Assyrian" comes from "Ashur" (aleph shin vav resh).
>I asked Shadow earlier to name some Jewish intellectuals and artists equal
>in rank to Shakespeare, Michaelangelo, Isaac Newton and Mozart. Did this
>irk you subconsciously to the point that you felt you must quote a Jewish
>thinker on another thread? Ha! Sorry to tell you, Marx is no Socrates,
>Plato, or Aristotle! Nowhere near! What's next, are you going to quote Ayn
>Rand? (Pyro laughs out loud).
Okay.
"Look at Europe, you fool. Can't you see past the guff and recognize the
essence? One country is dedicated to the proposition that man has no rights,
that the collective is all. The individual held as evil, the mass --- as God.
No motive and no virtue permitted --- except that of service to the proletariat.
That's one version. Here's another. A country dedicated to the proposition that
man has no rights, that the State is all. The individual held as evil, the race
--- as God. No motive and no virtue permitted --- except that of service to the
race. Am I raving or is this the cold reality of two continents already? Watch
the pincer movement. If you're sick of one version, we'll push you into the
other. We've got you coming and going. We've closed the doors. We've fixed the
coin. Heads --- collectivism, and tails --- collectivism. Fight the doctrine
which slaughters the individual with a doctrine which slaughters the
individual. Give up your soul to a council --- or give it up to a leader. But
give it up, give it up, give it up."
JEW Ayn Rand
The Fountainhead
Joseph Hertzlinger
>Study what happened to the Sumerians, Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans as a
>result of racial admixture. I really believe Egypt would be a formidable
>superpower today had it been able to retain its Mediterranean and
>Proto-Nordic population.
Let's see. If the Mideast declined after Nebuchadnezzar because of race
mixing (which would explain being kicked around by Macedonians and Greeks)
how did the Mideast rise again later in the form of the Caliphate?
For that matter, if Rome fell because of race mixing, how do you explain
the Rennaissance? Did the Italians unmix?
Joseph Hertzlinger
>The Bolshevik Jews caused up to 60 million Gentiles
>to die as a consequence of the Russian Revolution,
Somehow the lists of the Sovnarkom etc. provided by anti-semites
disagree with the lists provided by historians.
>not to mention the tens of millions more who have
>died in China and Southeast Asia as a result of the
>cultural pollution excreted by the criminal JEW Karl
>Marx.
If Karl Marx didn't exist...
We'd be cursing the name of Engels today.
BTW, can you provide any reason for considering Marx part of
a Jewish conspiracy? I doubt if Marx ever asked a rabbi for
advice.
>Well, I'm glad to see that you've read Spengler.
>(You have, haven't you?) If you have, you should pay
>particular attention to the last few pages of his
>magnum opus, wherein he predicts that it is the press
>-- i.e., the media, to bring it into contemporary terms
>-- which will cause the final decline of the West.
>The Jewish control of communications media is undeniable,
>even by you. The corruption it purveys is equally
>undeniable to anyone with eyes and ears.
I read _The Decline of the West_ some time ago. ISTR, the
line: "An estate has instincts, a party has a program, and
a movement has a master." The last act will be the media
putting a dictator in office.
Your hero tried that with radio.
In other words, we helped save Western Civilization from
premature Ceasarism. Our media are standing guard to keep
it from happening until Russian culture matures. (BTW,
did you compare the description of the "Temple of the Human
Spirit" in _The Fountainhead_ with the description of Russian
culture in _The Decline of the West_?)
>>>Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians [minnim] and others
>>>who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished
>>>there for all generations.
>>
>>The term "minnim" only applies to Jews who believe in
>>heretical ideas. That means Karl Marx went to hell.
>>
>
>That is your interpretation. Moses Maimonides, who is
>revered by the Jews, and who is the foremost expositor
>of the Jewish doctrine of oppression and racial supremacy --
Racial?
>also known as the Talmud -- has another.
>
>Maimonides, in his Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing
>Corporation, Brooklyn, New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English
>translation, p. 184), delcares: "It is a mitzvah [religious duty],
>however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim,
>and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since
>they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away
>from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and
>Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the
>wicked rot."
Are you claiming that it doesn't count unless Maimonides
specifies Marx or Trotsky by name? I don't think he's
considered a prophet.
RenoDeCaro
Hertzlinger wrote:
According to the noted crackpot Oswald Spengler, Western
Culture died in the early 19th century. What we have now
is Western Civilization. In that case, we clearly need
people who are expert in running civilizations. We
Sumerians have the most expertise, of course, but Chinese,
Indians, Arabs, etc. can also play a role.
Max wrote:
Just when I was starting to take you seriously, you make a statement exposing
your monumental ignorance. If you call Spengler, who had a prophetic foresight
into this century matched by no one ( read "Years of Decision") and an
unsurpassed understanding of the history of cultures (read "The Decline of the
West," or "Uhrfragen") a crackpot, you can’t possibly expect someone to take
you serious intellectually. I refuse to believe anyone who has ever read,
never mind studied Spengler, would make such a statement.
Spengler’s only shortcoming was that he did not see the problem of race and the
problem of the Jews clearly enough to be a racist or anti-Semite. But he was
German and he was a nationalist and, for some Jews, this is enough to slander
him.
As to the logic of your writing, it once again has a shortcoming. First you
call Spengler a crackpot; then you take an insight of this "crackpot" as
evidence (that we now have Western civilization) to make the rest of your
argument. My lawyer friends would say you impeached your own witness.J
It appears that the Jewish strategy in dealing with great thinkers of the past
who don’t fit into their world view is to ridicule them. Nietzsche should not
be taken seriously because he was not familiar with John von Neumann and his
game theory. Ezra Pound should have been hung because he did not join the
Jewish side during their holy crusade (WWII) for a new world order--a world
order designed to benefit them and them ONLY. Oswald Spengler’s writing cannot
be distorted enough to be useful for their agenda so he is labeled a crackpot.
I’m sure the list will go on until all that is left are great minds like Baruch
Goldstein.
Pyro 1488
>Pyro 1488 <Vald...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>
>>Study what happened to the Sumerians, Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans as a
>>result of racial admixture. I really believe Egypt would be a formidable
>>superpower today had it been able to retain its Mediterranean and
>>Proto-Nordic population.
>
>Let's see. If the Mideast declined after Nebuchadnezzar because of race
>mixing (which would explain being kicked around by Macedonians and Greeks)
>how did the Mideast rise again later in the form of the Caliphate?
Well, the Sumerians fell due to nomadic incursions. From then on the
kingdom was controlled by one kingdom after another, until finally the
Persians under Cyrus grabbed ahold of the region. Later it was the Greeks
under Alexander the Great, with the defeat of Darius III. Around the Middle
Ages, with Islam was spreading throughout the region, there was a resurgence
of learning and culture. From the Mideast many scholars emigrated to Spain
and Sicily, where they translated Greek works and paved the way for a
European Renaissance.
So, perhaps it was inaccurate for me to write: "Look what happened to the
Sumerians due to racial admixute." What I really meant was: "Look at how
powerful and innovative the Mesopotamia was when there was a Mediterraneran
and Nordic population, compared to now, a feeble region barely able to
attain basic means for the general population, especially following the Gulf
War."
If you look at the portraits of the great artists, scientists, writers and
explorers of the Italian Renaissance, you will find most, if not all, had a
Nordic/Mediterranean appearance (i.e., Michelangelo). During and after the
fall of the Roman empire, Italy received large infusions of Germanic peoples
(i.e. Lombards). Christopher Columbus had blond hair.
Due to the importation of Nonwhite slaves, as well as incoming foreigners
from regions under the hegemony of Rome, the color of the Italian people
gradually began to change, particularly in the southern parts of the
country. Many blacks also got absorbed into the population. Italy
essentially became a bi-racial region. Indeed, in the north people are
described as taller, with blond hair and blue eyes; and in the south people
have a darker hue. However, till this day one can find persons in southern
Italy with a Nordic appearance, but they are mostly atavistic.
Like Rome, Greece absorbed many Nonwhites into its population. The
darkening of Greece was worsened by centuries of rule under the Ottoman
Turks. However, as in southern Italy, it is not unusual to find persons
with Nordic features.
Pyro
ps. Before the arrival of Indo-Europeans, there were plenty of Mediterranean
and Alpine peoples in the British Isles. The Alpines themselves are a
mixture of Mediterranean and Nordic.
pss. The French themselves are half Nordic and half Mediterranean.
psss. The Mycenaeans were basically descendents of Indo-European invaders
referred to as Achaeans by Homer.
age...@post.cz
>give it up, give it up, give it up.\"
She must have watched a lot of Hollywood propaganda
film to have developed this idea of fascism under
the beneficent leader Adolf Hitler, and his very
popular administration. But maybe she\'s just got
her geography a bit wrong and is talking about the
despicable Roosevelt regime. Ya think?
>
>JEW Ayn Rand
>The Fountainhead
But what did the Jew-bitch think of Zionism then?
Let me guess. THAT form of racial nationalism is
A-OK with her, right? \'Twas ever thus with Jews,
hypocrites and liars to the last, all of them.
Cheers,
99
--
\"Ye [i.e., the Jews] are of your father the devil, and the
lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the
beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no
truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his
own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.\"
John 8:44
Joseph Hertzlinger
>--
>\"Ye [i.e., the Jews] are of your father the devil, and the
>lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the
>beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no
>truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his
>own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.\"
>John 8:44
"Salvation is of the Jews." --- same guy
oste...@my-deja.com
the greatest admirers of the likes of Spengler, Nietzsche, Heidegger,
and even Gobineau are Jewish intellectuals such as Steiner, Bloom, Oscar
Levy, Otto Strauss etc etc. The idea that the Jews have sought to
undermine the greatness of German philosphy (outside Marx and Freud)
is as absurd as the idea that there were no patriotic German Jews in the
First World War.
Richard Leviathan
http://sites.netscape.net/osterraed/ostara
In article <19991004212446...@ng-cq1.aol.com>,
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Before you buy.
RenoDeCaro
I have always found this perspective rather peculiar given that among
the greatest admirers of the likes of Spengler, Nietzsche, Heidegger,
and even Gobineau are Jewish intellectuals such as Steiner, Bloom, Oscar
Levy, Otto Strauss etc etc.
Hello, Richard:
I am confused who or what you are replying to. Since you appear to have a need
to defend Jews, I assume it is my post you’re criticizing rather than
Hertzlinger’s. So, for the sake of avoiding a misunderstanding, let me ask
what perspective do you find peculiar?
I would certainly not claim that the philosophers listed by you above had NO
Jewish admirers, but those were a minority while their greatest detractors were
Jews and Jews totally disproportionately to their numbers.
And while it is unusual to find Jews TODAY who admirer Heidegger, Spengler and
Gobineau, one will see them leading the pack of those who slander them.
My post below was in reply to some of the detractors.
Richard wrote:
The idea that the Jews have sought to
undermine the greatness of German philosphy (outside Marx and Freud)
is as absurd as the idea that there were no patriotic German Jews in the
First World War.
Max wrote:
I agree with you that it would be absurd if anyone had claimed "that there
were no patriotic German Jews in the First World War." The problem is that I
am unaware that anyone has made such a claim.
oste...@my-deja.com
of that in the mass media. The point is that no universal herd
instinct applies here - the Jews were a divided peope from the
start, some of them tenaciously defending the faith and exclusion
from other races, others drifting in the opposite direction.
There were Jews in Mussolin's Fascist Party (a minority to be sure)
just as there were Jews involved in the Communist International.
Of course, this does to a certain extent place these exceptions under
the dominant influence of a non-Jeiwsh culture, but I have never had a
problem with that and still despise Orthodox Jewish separatism to this
day.
Richard
http://sites.netscape.net/osterraed/ostara
In article <19991104161528...@ng-cs1.aol.com>,
oste...@my-deja.com
As to the bit about WW1, that is purely a rhetorical analogy
used to illustrate the point.