Obama Brought Discretionary Spending & Deficit Down, Fat Tubby Bringing Both Right Back Up

[ed...@post.com]

Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/index.html

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
> Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/index.html
>

The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits would
rise as Obama was leaving office.

SHIT... I predicted it. it was easy to predict while Obama was still in
office.








--
That's Karma


When you hold a people at gun point you have become an occupying force.

[ed...@post.com]

On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
> > Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
> >
> > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/index.html
> >
>
> The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits would
> rise as Obama was leaving office.

It's rising because fat Tubby is in office and making it rise, you fuckhead.


>
> SHIT...


Which is all you keep posting.

[Salty Stan]

On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:

Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.

[ed...@post.com]

On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 10:32:07 PM UTC-4, Salty Stan wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> > On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
> > > Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
> > >
> > > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/index.html
> > >
> >
> > The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits would
> > rise as Obama was leaving office.
> >
> > SHIT... I predicted it. it was easy to predict while Obama was still in
> > office.
> >
>

> Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.

Like fat Tubby is doing at the rate he's going. Fuck, you're stupid.

"Trump plans to add $5.088 trillion to the debt in his first term. That's a 30% increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017. If he remains in office for a second term, he plans to add $9.1 trillion."

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

And that $9.1 trillion is over half-a-trillion more than Obama's total debt, optimistically speaking. Fuck, you're a fuckhead.

[Mitchell Holman]

Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:

He was just imitating Reagan, and surely
you cannot complain about THAT.



"While Mr. Reagan was in office this nation’s debt
went from just under 1 trillion dollars to over
2.6 trillion dollars, a 200% increase."
http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

[Salty Stan]

On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:02:12 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty
> > wrote:
> >> On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
> >> > Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
> >> >
> >> > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/in
> >> > dex.html
> >> >
> >>
> >> The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits
> >> would rise as Obama was leaving office.
> >>
> >> SHIT... I predicted it. it was easy to predict while Obama was still
> >> in office.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> That's Karma
> >>
> >>
> >> When you hold a people at gun point you have become an occupying
> >> force.
> >
> > Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.
> >
>
>
> He was just imitating Reagan, and surely
> you cannot complain about THAT.
>

Reagan managed to nearly double government income during the two terms he was in office, but spending by the Democrat-majority congress nearly tripled.

So how is Obama "imitating" Reagan again?

[Salty Stan]

But...but...but...Trump...(whine)...but...but...

[Josh Rosenbluth]

On 9/13/2019 10:46 AM, Salty Stan wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:02:12 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:
>> Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:

{snip}

>>> Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.

The increase in debt was the result of an intentional bipartisan policy
begun under Bush43 in response to the Great Recession.

In contrast, the increase in debt under Trump has happened during good
economic times.

> Reagan managed to nearly double government income during the two
> terms he was in office, but spending by the Democrat-majority
> congress nearly tripled.

Revenue goes up as the economy grows. But as percent of GDP, revenue
under Reagan dropped, and dropped a lot until 1987. That was because of
the tax cuts passed in 1981.

[ed...@post.com]

On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 1:46:16 PM UTC-4, Salty Stan wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:02:12 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:
> >
> > > On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty
> > > wrote:
> > >> On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
> > >> > Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
> > >> >
> > >> > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/in
> > >> > dex.html
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits
> > >> would rise as Obama was leaving office.
> > >>
> > >> SHIT... I predicted it. it was easy to predict while Obama was still
> > >> in office.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> That's Karma
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> When you hold a people at gun point you have become an occupying
> > >> force.
> > >
> > > Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.
> > >
> >
> >
> > He was just imitating Reagan, and surely
> > you cannot complain about THAT.
> >
>
> Reagan managed to nearly double government income during the two terms he was in office, but spending by the Democrat-majority congress nearly tripled.

If so, then Reagan would've been able to have kept up with it if not for his disastrous tax cuts in his first term. Unlike fat Tubby, he learned his lesson and then raised taxes 4 times, but by then the damage had already been done. Good old right wing math - you can always depend on its failure.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

On 9/13/19 1:46 PM, Salty Stan wrote:
> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:02:12 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
>>>>> Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/in
>>>>> dex.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits
>>>> would rise as Obama was leaving office.
>>>>
>>>> SHIT... I predicted it. it was easy to predict while Obama was still
>>>> in office.

>>> Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.
>>>
>>
>>
>> He was just imitating Reagan, and surely
>> you cannot complain about THAT.
>>
>
> Reagan managed to nearly double government income during the two terms he was in office, but spending by the Democrat-majority congress nearly tripled.
>
> So how is Obama "imitating" Reagan again?
>
>>
>>
>> "While Mr. Reagan was in office this nation’s debt
>> went from just under 1 trillion dollars to over
>> 2.6 trillion dollars, a 200% increase."
>> http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm
>

Did you ever notice that Obama FRONT LOADED his deficit spending and
spent TRILLIONS in his first years and slowed to billions in the last
years, it wasn't that Obama was reducing his spendingh it was that he
had Spent in the totality of his deficit spending $10 TRILLION which is
$1.25 TRILLION per year on average....

It doesn't really matter if he spent it all in one year or in 8 years,
he still created that much ($10TRILLION) NATIONAL debt..... it doubled
the national debt.


NOW, will TRUMP at his present rate DOUBLE the NATIONAL DEBT form $20
TRILLION to $40 TRILLION dollars and if NOT then he's doing better than
Obama did.

And remember that Reagan spent more but he also created more revenue
going into the Treasury.


;)

[Mitchell Holman]

Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in

news:e9e79055-6763-4225...@googlegroups.com:

> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:02:12 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:
>> Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty
>> > wrote:
>> >> On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
>> >> > Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august
>> >> > /in dex.html
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits
>> >> would rise as Obama was leaving office.
>> >>
>> >> SHIT... I predicted it. it was easy to predict while Obama was
>> >> still in office.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> That's Karma
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> When you hold a people at gun point you have become an occupying
>> >> force.
>> >
>> > Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.
>> >
>>
>>
>> He was just imitating Reagan, and surely
>> you cannot complain about THAT.
>>
>
> Reagan managed to nearly double government income during the two terms
> he was in office, but spending by the Democrat-majority congress
> nearly tripled.
>

Reagan demanded more military spending,
more foreign aid spending, more domestic
spending while cutting taxes that would pay
for that spending. How are democrats at blame
for given Reagan what he asked for?

[Salty Stan]

Exactly - that was the point. The results of Reaganomics (reduced tax rates, deregulation etc.) spurred on the economy - in fact the longest peacetime period in history. The IRS got a smaller piece of the pie, true, but it was from a much larger pie.

[Salty Stan]

On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 2:23:38 PM UTC-4, ed...@post.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 1:46:16 PM UTC-4, Salty Stan wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:02:12 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:
> > >

ss

> >
> > Reagan managed to nearly double government income during the two terms he was in office, but spending by the Democrat-majority congress nearly tripled.
>
> If so, then Reagan would've been able to have kept up with it if not for his disastrous tax cuts in his first term. Unlike fat Tubby, he learned his lesson and then raised taxes 4 times, but by then the damage had already been done. Good old right wing math - you can always depend on its failure.

This is an American issue, and has nothing to do with you.

Go fix up your own screwed-up 2nd-rate country, instead of sponging off us. Then you can talk.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <795bae5e-b2a0-4252...@googlegroups.com>,

Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > And that $9.1 trillion is over half-a-trillion more than Obama's total
> > debt, optimistically speaking. Fuck, you're a fuckhead.
>
> But...but...but...Trump...(whine)...but...but...

Yeah, it's not he's a president or something.

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[ed...@post.com]

And kicked off the trillion dollar debt machine that keeps on rolling and rolling and rolling up more trillions. But you as a right wing math flunkie can't add up the score that the country is $20 trillion in debt deeper now than when Reagan left office with his $2 trillion debt, all due to his having messed with real world math by believing right wing math could fix everything. The economy being "great," whenever it is, is just an illusion against the hard core reality of $22 trillion the country still has to pay back - with interest. So we're actually talking easily double that figure before it all ever gets paid back at whatever earliest time that might be in the next 50 years. Fuck, you're math stupid.

[Josh Rosenbluth]

I disagree.

Firstly, the pie grew about 3.5% per year. And while that is a good
figure by today's standards, at the time it was not remarkable. For
example, GDP grew the same amount under Clinton. I think it is likely
the economy would have grown the same amount without the tax cuts. But
even if I am wrong about that, the little bit it grew extra because of
them comes nowhere near making up for the lost revenue.

Secondly, there was a big bump in revenue in 1987 because of the
bipartisan Tax Reform Act of 1986. From 1982-1986 under the Reagan tax
cut, revenues tanked.

[Rudy Canoza]

That's a good thing. The measure of good economic management is not for
taxes and federal spending as percentages of GDP to rise - quite the opposite.

[Rudy Canoza]

The purpose of economic activity is not to provide revenue to the government.

[ed...@post.com]

Then the government won't be able to provide any military defense, infrastructure, federal aid money to states like Mississippi which, without it, would sink in a flash and take that phony pastor man Hartung down with it, and a whole slew of things meant for the general welfare of the people and a strong, functioning nation beyond just economic activity and businesses hoarding all the cash for themselves. Fuck, you're stupid.

[Rudy Canoza]

You didn't understand what I wrote, *shithead*. I said: the purpose of
economic activity is not to provide revenue to the government. That's a
true statement. I don't get up and go to work every day thinking, "I don't
really want to go to work, but goddamnit, if I don't go out and earn some
income for the government to tax, then the government will have less
revenue, so it's my *duty* to engage in economic activity so the government
will have a source of revenue." You fucking cunt: we do not live our
lives to serve the government. The government exists to serve *us*,
minimally - by preserving order and safety, and *NOTHING* more.

Someone really needs to kill you, you fucking thieving cunt.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Do you remember that Clinton cut WELFARE and he was spending the PEACE
DIVIDEND from REAGAN winning the COLD WAR.... closing military bases.
and reducing the military spending? Oh and Clinton did raise taxes
when they first took office only to have NEWT GINGRICH get Clinton to
sign a tax cut later on.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

The Constitution required the United States to provide MILITARY DEFENSE.

It doesn't require FEDERAL AID MONEY TO THE STATES.

And there is NO "general welfare of the people" in the Constitution, if
you can find that wording then post it here for me please.


Then there is HOARDING CASH as if it were a a static amount... the
amount of CASH rises and falls depending on the economy and the increase
in productivity and money shifted away from depreciating inflation from
the FEDERAL RESERVE.... into assets that appreciate and don't lose
buying power as the "CASH" known as the U.S. dollar does. For instance
Gold doesn't lose 2% on average.... but cash does. When you have a lot
of money and you turn half into gold, How have you hoarded the CASH?

I don't think you understand finance as well as you think you do...

That gold can then be used for other things as well as just a non
depreciating asset, and if it's made into jewelry that might require a
factory and workers and that might grow the economy rather than just "be
hoarding cash" and that person doing all this will be creating new cash
and new wealth by the fact that they are helping the brick and mortar
assets and the economy expand... which means that the Federal Reserve
needs to expand the M2 money supply and increase the available cash
creating more cash for people other than themselves.

Your view of a limited pie that is divided among us is NOT based in
reality, it's simplistic and inaccurate. It barely rates a 6th grade
education level.

[ed...@post.com]

The government can't serve "us" unless the government is fed revenue from "us," which would include businesses and millionaires and billionaires, fuckhead. Ptoo! I spit on your grave.

[Josh Rosenbluth]

If you don't cut spending, it's not a good thing.

[Matthew Louis Gaetz II]

ed...@post.com wrote

>
> Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/index.h
> tml
>
>

rightists always raid the treasury and steal as much as they can get away
with. borrow and spend rightist socialism will be the end of the USA.

[BeamMeUpScotty]

And yet it was the ObamaRegime that printed and then borrowed $4
Trillion dollars that didn't exist? It was created from thin air then,
borrowed by the Government and wasted on Shovel ready jobs and Obama
Phones and ObamaCare that didn't exist or help America..... And then
Obama, Pelosi and Reid raised taxes on working Americans to pay for it.


Raising taxes in a Depression sounds like a bad idea to me.

--
That's Karma

[Matthew Louis Gaetz II]

[Nom]

You def got some misinformation ..... lol 'one person' doubled the debt, ya
thats how it works....especially if you are ignorant, thats how it works
LOOOOOL

usa = culture of ignorance buahhahahaha its starting to become quite funny as
i start seeing it more and more over the last 10 years BUHAHAH oh you guys are
fuuuucked... and not b/c of ur gov.... b/c of your own stupid asses hahaha

In article <S8ReF.269886$dp3....@fx05.iad>, NOT-...@idiocracy.gov says...

[algorithmic behavior]

On 9/13/2019 11:23 AM, #ReamMeUpTheAssSnotty, brain-damaged fucktard who
rode his scooter into a tree while not wearing a helmet, stupidly bawled
and lied:

> On 9/13/19 1:46 PM, Salty Stan wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 11:02:12 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Salty Stan <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:51fafea3-b1f2-4b15...@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 9:26:59 PM UTC-4, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/12/19 7:17 PM, ed...@post.com wrote:
>>>>>> Another right wing math flunkie, LOL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/12/business/us-federal-deficit-august/in
>>>>>> dex.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The ObamaRegime's own forecast and the CBO predicted that deficits
>>>>> would rise as Obama was leaving office.
>>>>>
>>>>> SHIT... I predicted it.  it was easy to predict while Obama was still
>>>>> in office.
>
>>>> Actually, Obama doubled the debt while he was in office.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      He was just imitating Reagan, and surely
>>> you cannot complain about THAT.
>>>
>>
>> Reagan managed to nearly double government income during the two terms he
>> was in office

That's a lie.

>>>
>>> "While Mr. Reagan was in office this nation’s debt
>>> went from just under 1 trillion dollars to over
>>> 2.6 trillion dollars, a 200% increase."
>>> http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm
>>
>
> Did you ever notice that Obama FRONT LOADED his deficit spending and

Your subject line is a lie. Debt went up about 74% under President Obama.
It nearly *tripled* under Reagan.