Well, Birthers, the Big day is here at last!
Jack
Actually, it's the day when Orly Taitz gets supremely ignored once again
when her case gets distributed for conference amongst the justices and
she will be required to cough up $20,000 for being a crazy dumb cunt
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/10-541.htm
--
"The danger to America is not George W Bush, but a citizenry capable of
entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to
limit and undo the follies of a George W Bush presidency than to restore
the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to
have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far
more serious than Mr. George W Bush, who is a mere symptom of what ails
us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast
confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can
survive a George W Bush. It is less likely to survive a multitude of
fools such as those who made him their president."
-- Author Unknown, but is assumed to be Thessalonian
The PHANTOM
But wait !! I thought that self avowed communist that's currently the
Gubnuh of Hawaii swore he was gonna provide PROOF that your Kenyan
born Messiah was born in Hawaii !! PROOF BY GAWD !! PROOF DO YA HEAR
ME?? But so far all we hear
is..................................................................................crickets.
Lookout
Two completely different topics, dumbass.
X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
Oh..and welcome to my filter.
POOF! The Phantom is no more.
Used Rubber Boner
"The PHANTOM" <hoofhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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=======================
You commie Pugs should keep a lower profile.
The PHANTOM
>
> Two completely different topics, dumbass.
>
> X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>
> Oh..and welcome to my filter.
>
> - Show quoted text -
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!! NOT DREADED
FILTER !!! NNOOOHHHOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH !!!
Buster Norris
wrote:
>Oh..and welcome to my filter.
>POOF! The Phantom is no more.
POOF!!!!! Your lies are forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:01:16 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Message-ID: <o57sq59a3d1nc6o8s...@4ax.com>
>On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:40:19 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
><okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>You also have to "force" people to buy health insurance.
>That's a lie.
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:57:06 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Message-ID: <0cosq59f9ru0opr5n...@4ax.com>
>On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:37:19 -1000, "Jerry Okamura"
><okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>A lie? What the heck do you think the IRS is going to do? How can you get
>>everyone to buy health insurance without know who has insurance and who does
>>not have insurance?
>Show me in the bill where the IRS has anything to do with this.
>Until then YOU'RE lying.
Oops! Caught LYING!
http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/patient-protection-affordable-care-act.pdf
ëë(1) IN GENERAL.óIf an applicable individual fails to meet the
requirement of subsection (a) for 1 or more months during any calendar
year beginning after 2013, then, except as provided in subsection (d),
there is hereby imposed a penalty with respect to the individual in
the amount determined under subsection (c).
ëë(2) INCLUSION WITH RETURN.óAny penalty imposed by this section with
respect to any month shall be included with a taxpayerís return under
chapter 1 for the taxable year which includes such month.
ëë(3) PAYMENT OF PENALTY.óIf an individual with respect to whom a
penalty is imposed by this section for any monthó
ëë(A) is a dependent (as defined in section 152) of another taxpayer
for the other taxpayerís taxable year including such month, such other
taxpayer shall be liable for such penalty, or
ëë(B) files a joint return for the taxable year including such month,
such individual and the spouse of such individual shall be jointly
liable for such penalty.
=============
ëë(g) ADMINISTRATION AND PROCEDURE.ó
ëë(1) IN GENERAL.óThe penalty provided by this section shall be paid
upon notice and demand by the Secretary, and except as provided in
paragraph (2), shall be assessed and collected in the same manner as
an assessable penalty under subchapter B of chapter 68.
ëë(2) SPECIAL RULES.óNotwithstanding any other provision of lawó
ëë(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES.ó
In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty
imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any
criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.
ëë(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES.óThe Secretary shall notó
ëë(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer
by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section,
or
ëë(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.íí.
=============
TITLE 26 > Subtitle F > CHAPTER 68 > Subchapter B > PART I
PART IóGENERAL PROVISIONS
PART IIóFAILURE TO COMPLY WITH CERTAIN INFORMATION REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sup_01_26_10_F_20_68_30_B_40_I.html
Posted from:
The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
http://www.democrathallofshame.com/
Buster Norris
wrote:
>Oh..and welcome to my filter.
>POOF! The Phantom is no more.
POOF!!!!! Your lies are forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:10:01 GMT, Buster Norris <bus...@buster.com>
>wrote:
>>Cor...@Blue.net wrote:
>>>On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:46:52 GMT, Buster Norris <bus...@buster.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>>A real President would have promised victory and return with honor.
>>>Like Bush?
>>Great example. Both, in fact.
>>George Bush I promised victory in the Gulf War, he delivered, we returned with
>>honor.
>Uh..we had to go back. We DIDN'T win. We just put it off for a few
>more years.
No, LIAR. Bush promised the liberation of Kuwait. He delivered.
>>George Bush II promised victory in OIF, he delivered, we're returning with
>>honor.
>
>Define "honor". Losing 4,000+ lives and $15 dollars for what?
For the liberation of Iraq from tyranny. Bush promised it, he
delivered.
>Please..define "honor" for us.
Go read a dictionary.
>>Too bad your Magic Negro is a wuss loser..........
>
>And then the 3rd grade insult. How typical.
It took just 2 posts to catch you lying...
How typical.
You're inferior to dogshit.
Fuck off now.
Buster Norris
wrote:
>Oh..and welcome to my filter.
>POOF! The Phantom is no more.
POOF!!!!! Your lies are forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Courtesy of Buster Norris]
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:35:29 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:44:50 -0400, Patriot Games
><Pat...@america.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:26:42 -0700 (PDT), "Criminal Drivers Murder
>>40,000 Americans a Year" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>On Aug 30, 9:21 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@america.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:06:33 -0700 (PDT), "Criminal Drivers Murder
>>>> 40,000 Americans a Year" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >On Aug 27, 6:04 pm, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >> There was nothing go gain by keeping ANYTHING there.
>>>> >> It was a stupid war to enter into from day one.
>>>> >Not for the profiteers. They made a fortune. All wars are about
>>>> >profiteering. Vietnam was NOT about fighting communism nor WW2 about
>>>> >nazism nor our present iraqistan holocaust about terrorism. All wars
>>>> >are started by the profiteers.
>>>> Are you saying that DemocRAT Kennedy and DemocRAT Johnson were
>>>> profiteers?
>>>Johnson for sure and so was FDR. Maybe not Kennedy. Understand,
>>>presidents don't really run things. Nor does congress. Alll of our
>>>"leaders" are controlled thru bribery and blackmail.
>>Thanks for PROVING you're a totally worthless crackpot...
>>Hahahahahahahhahahaha!!!
>Sure we lost the war.
Who "we?" Sure the FUCK not YOU!!!!!!!!
(Retards aren't drafted or alloed to enlist.)
I was too young.................
>We went there to stop communism and we didn't.
Nope-
"Johnson increasingly focused on the American military effort in
Vietnam. He firmly believed in the Domino Theory and that his
containment policy required America to make a serious effort to stop
all Communist expansion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson
Vietnam became WAR thanks to the Democrat LBJ........
Vietnam was the proof that containment is a failure-
Democrat Cliton's containment in Afghanistan, failed.
Democrat Cliton's containment in Iraq, failed.
Democrat Cliton's containment in Iran, failed.
Democrats ALWAYS fail.
"But the domino theory was disproved--communist governments in Laos,
Cambodia, Vietnam and China do not act as one. After a period of
brutal fighting, most have abandoned communism. Vietnam, remarkably,
is now enthusiastically pro capitalist, and has become what Ho Chi
Mihn promised it would be in the 1950s: a "fertile field for US
investment."
http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/122/vietnam/lecture.html
What did YOU say? "We went there to stop communism and we didn't."
LIAR!!!!!!!!
We have stopped Communism, EVEN IN South Vietnam.
Democrat Cliton TRIED to stop Saddam with containment and FAILED.
Bush TRIED to stop Saddam BY KILLING HIM. (That worked.)
Democrat Cliton TRIED to remove Al Qeada training camps in Afghanistan
by containment and FAILED.
Bush TRIED to remove Al Qeada training camps in Afghanistan bombing,
burning and dismantling eacn and every one. (That worked.)
Current events shows the Democrat Obogus TRYING to stop Iran with
containment and history ensures HE WILL FAIL because Democrats are
cowardly, ignorant, lying pussies.
You were wrong, you lied, thus I shit on your head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buster Norris
wrote:
>Oh..and welcome to my filter.
>POOF! The Phantom is no more.
POOF!!!!! Your lies are forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:04:50 -0500, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:30:51 -0400, Patriot Games
><Pat...@america.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:59:09 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
>>wrote:
>>>On 9/20/2010 7:38 AM, walt tonne wrote:
>>>> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jul/22/the-case-for-impeachment-142967590/
>>>> Old senior statesmen of both parties would be relieved if Obama left
>>>> office. Perhaps a health problem as cover.
>>>There is no case for impeachment.
>>There doesn't need to be a "case" for Impeachment. Impeachment is NOT
>>like a Criminal Trial or even a Civil Suit. His active involvement in
>>suppressing the release of his original birth certificate COULD EASILY
>>be considered Obstruction of Justice, which is a crime, and that ALONE
>>could get him Impeached in the House...
>Not by anyone familiar with the laws.
Oops! Caught LYING!
Obstruction of Justice:
A criminal offense that involves interference, through words or
actions, with the proper operations of a court or officers of the
court.
The integrity of the judicial system depends on the participants'
acting honestly and without fear of reprisals. Threatening a judge,
trying to bribe a witness, or encouraging the destruction of evidence
are examples of obstruction of justice. Federal and state laws make it
a crime to obstruct justice.
Obstruction of justice in the federal courts is governed by a series
of criminal statutes (18 U.S.C.A. งง 1501-1517), which aim to protect
the integrity of federal judicial proceedings as well as agency and
congressional proceedings. Section 1503 is the primary vehicle for
punishing those who obstruct or who endeavor to obstruct federal
judicial proceedings.
Section 1503 proscribes obstructions of justice aimed at judicial
officers, grand and petit jurors, and witnesses. The law makes it a
crime to threaten, intimidate, or retaliate against these participants
in a criminal or civil proceeding. In addition, section 1503 makes it
illegal to attempt the bribery of an official to alter the outcome of
a judicial proceeding.
Besides these specific prohibitions, section 1503 contains the Omnibus
Clause, which states that a person who "corruptly or by threats of
force, or by threatening letter or communication, influences,
obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede,
the due administration of justice" is guilty of the crime of
obstruction of justice. This clause offers broad protection to the
"due administration of justice." Federal courts have read this clause
expansively to proscribe any conduct that interferes with the judicial
process.
To obtain a conviction under section 1503, the government must prove
that there was a pending federal judicial proceeding, the defendant
knew of the proceeding, and the defendant had corrupt intent to
interfere with or attempted to interfere with the proceeding.
Two types of cases arise under the Omnibus Clause: the concealment,
alteration, or destruction of documents; and the encouraging or
rendering of false testimony. Actual obstruction is not needed as an
element of proof to sustain a conviction. The defendant's endeavor to
obstruct justice is sufficient. "Endeavor" has been defined by the
courts as an effort to accomplish the purpose the statute was enacted
to prevent. The courts have consistently held that "endeavor"
constitutes a lesser threshold of purposeful activity than a criminal
"attempt."
Federal obstruction of justice statutes have been used to prosecute
government officials who have sought to prevent the disclosure of
damaging information. The Watergate scandal of the 1970s involving
President Richard M. Nixon is a classic example of this type of
obstruction. A number of Nixon's top aides were convicted of
obstruction of justice, including former attorney general John N.
Mitchell. A federal grand jury named Nixon himself as an unindicted
coconspirator for the efforts to prevent disclosure of White House
involvement in the 1972 burglary of Democratic National Committee
headquarters at the Watergate building complex in Washington, D.C.
http://www.answers.com/topic/obstruction-of-justice
Lookout
wrote:
Nope. You DON'T have to buy insurance. You're reading it wrong.
Lookout
wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:56:38 -0600, Lookout <mrLoo...@yahoo.com>
Post all the crap you want.
EVERYONE knows we lost Viet Nam.
Lookout
wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:56:38 -0600, Lookout <mrLoo...@yahoo.com>
We LOST both Iraq wars.
We lost the first when we had to go back in the 2nd time.
We lost the 2nd because there was no way to win.
Lookout
wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:56:38 -0600, Lookout <mrLoo...@yahoo.com>
Clinton didn't obstruct justice.
If he had he would have been found guilty.
And wrong again.
Econotron
news:g70hi659755i3igml...@4ax.com...
won them.
>
> We lost the first when we had to go back in the 2nd time.
>
>
> We lost the 2nd because there was no way to win.
>
e.
Lookout
Gray Ghost
news:lchei65cug0k69j2q...@4ax.com:
Completely different topics? Do you have any functioning brain cells?
>
> X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>
> Oh..and welcome to my filter.
> POOF! The Phantom is no more.
--
Democrat donkey pontificating:
Americans only oppose Obama because they are racist....
Americans were against the stiumulus because they are uneducated....
Americans oppose socialism because they are greedy....
Americans are against Obamacare because they are stupid....
Americans are opposed to the Ground Zero mosque because they are bigots....
I just can't figure why Americans are opposed to us.
Maybe 'cuz we're racist, uneducated, greedy, stupid bigots.
Or maybe it's 'cuz you morons sound like Nazis talking about Jews in the
1930s.
Gray Ghost
news:g70hi659755i3igml...@4ax.com:
Kuwait was liberated. That was the UN defined victory condition.
> We lost the first when we had to go back in the 2nd time.
The fault of the UN for establishing such a limited goal. Had they chosen
instead to terminate Saddam the first time...
> We lost the 2nd because there was no way to win.
Hmm, Saddam's party destroyed, no rape rooms, no random murders by Saddam's
syncophants, Saddam dead, his spawn dead, the only Democratically elected
government in the Middle East (besides Israel), Kurds not being gassed, marsh
Arabs not being gassed, no payments to the families of Palestinian "martyrs"
(and oddly enough those "martyr" attacks seem to have declined considerably).
Oh yeah, a complete failure.
You do realize that your politically motivated hate in no way reflects how
history will be written.
JohnJohnsn
>
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 10:41:45 -0500, "Econotron" <nore...@nowhere.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> "Lookout" <mrLooko...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:g70hi659755i3igml...@4ax.com...
>
>>> On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:14:46 -0500, Buster Norris <Bus...@Buster.Com>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> Oh..and welcome to my filter.
>>>>> POOF! The Phantom is no more.
>
>>>> POOF!!!!! Your lies are forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>>>> [Courtesy of Buster Norris]
>
>
>>>>> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:10:01 GMT, Buster Norris <bus...@buster.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>Cor...@Blue.net wrote:
>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:46:52 GMT, Buster Norris <bus...@buster.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> A real President would have promised victory and return with honor.
>
>>>>>>>Like Bush?
>
>>>>>> Great example. Both, in fact.
>>>>>> George Bush I promised victory in the Gulf War, he delivered, we
>>>>>> returned with honor.
>
>>>>> Uh..we had to go back. We DIDN'T win. We just put it off for a few
>>>>> more years.
>
>>>> No, LIAR. Bush promised the liberation of Kuwait. He delivered.
>
>>>>>> George Bush II promised victory in OIF, he delivered, we're returning
>>>>>> with honor.
>
>>>>> Define "honor". Losing 4,000+ lives and $15 dollars for what?
Here Herr Ausblick demonstrates his failure at math: "$15 dollars"
>>>> For the liberation of Iraq from tyranny. Bush promised it, he
>>>> delivered.
>
>>>>> Please..define "honor" for us.
>
>>>> Go read a dictionary.
>
>>>>>> Too bad your Magic Negro is a wuss loser..........
>
>>>>> And then the 3rd grade insult. How typical.
>
>>>> It took just 2 posts to catch you lying...
>
>>>> How typical.
>
>>>> You're inferior to dogshit.
>
>>>> Fuck off now.
>
>>>> Posted from:
>>>> The DemocRATs Hall of Shame!
>>>> http://www.democrathallofshame.com/
>
>>> We LOST both Iraq wars.
>
>> It is always like that - someone wins someone loses. You lost those wars;
>> we won them.
>
>>> We lost the first when we had to go back in the 2nd time.
>
>> Going back in 2nd time means 3rd time. 1st, get your facts straight :-)
>
>>> We lost the 2nd because there was no way to win.
>
>> Whatever the reason - you've lost.
>> e.
>
> The US lost.
Tell that to Sodamn Insane,
Oh, that's right; it's kinda hard for him to respond when his head and
body are resting in two seperate places.
Lookout
We lost because US service men died FOR NO REASON. This incursion had
nothing to do with the US and bush signed up OUR military as
mercinaries. He should have been removed from office for that offence.
>
>> We lost the first when we had to go back in the 2nd time.
>
>The fault of the UN for establishing such a limited goal. Had they chosen
>instead to terminate Saddam the first time...
The country would have fallen into civil war. Then what, dumbass?
>
>> We lost the 2nd because there was no way to win.
>
>Hmm, Saddam's party destroyed, no rape rooms, no random murders by Saddam's
>syncophants, Saddam dead, his spawn dead, the only Democratically elected
>government in the Middle East (besides Israel), Kurds not being gassed, marsh
>Arabs not being gassed, no payments to the families of Palestinian "martyrs"
>(and oddly enough those "martyr" attacks seem to have declined considerably).
And it had NOTHING to do with the safety of the US. There were many
countries doing the same or worse to there people and we did nothing
so you have to ask yourself (or you SHOULD ask yourself) why did we go
in. You're just not smart enough to think that far ahead.
>
>Oh yeah, a complete failure.
Yes. A waste of men and money.
>
>You do realize that your politically motivated hate in no way reflects how
>history will be written.
We had NO RIGHT what so ever to get involved in that situation. The
ONLY reason we went in was because bush and the Saudi Royal family are
booty buddies. Bush and the republican loyalty to the oil companies is
why we went in.
ANd you're a chicken shit.
RM v2.0
>
> Clinton didn't obstruct justice.
> If he had he would have been found guilty.
>
> And wrong again.
So you are saying that the courts and juries are never wrong? Ok, stand on
that point the next time you attempt to disagree with any finding of any
court. Acquittal doesn't mean innocence dumbass.
Billary
Before computers & the internet. It was common for people of that era
to fake resumes, military service, employment records, college
degrees, places of birth, dates of birth, marriages, divorces, deaths,
social security numbers etc. Just ask the phoney Democrat "Vietnam
Vet" in Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal.
FACT: There are NO WITNESSES who can place "Ann" Stanley Dunham,
pregnant, in Honolulu in August 1961. Even Time Magazine could not
find any.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-1,00.html
FACT: Obama's mother used some form of documentation to forge his
Hawaiian birth. Those documents have been referred to as "the original
vital records"
FACT: No one, repeat no one, other than a single gubment bureaucrat
has
seen those "original vital records"
FACT: The world has been denied access to those "original vital
records"
FACT: There are NO WITNESSES who remember the Virgin Ann Dunham
pregnant with Barry in Honolulu at the purported time of the crime:
-No doctors
-No Nurses
-No Professors
-No coworkers
-No Friends
-No welfare workers (she was purportedly on welfare at the time)
-No mailmen (the guys who delivered the checks)
-No landlords (she had to live somewhere)
-No neighbors (Imagine that!)
-No records of an automobile or insurance
-No Bus drivers or cab drivers
-No babysitters
-No hairstylists or other service providers
-No records of a bank or checking account
-No Utility bills, water. electric or phone
-No phone listing in the white pages at the time
THERE IS NOTHING THAT PLACES THE VIRGIN ANN DUNHAM IN HONOLULU IN
AUGUST 1961. NOTHING AT ALL!!!!!!
ray
<d6467b2c-67af-4084...@w29g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
JohnJohnsn <TopCo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yep. They dug him up, put him on trial, executed him, and put him back
in the ground.
--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
ray
Gray Ghost
news:4akhi69qdkds3d4mo...@4ax.com:
I'm sure the veterans appreciate your analysis.
Tim Crowley
Proof positive was supplied years ago.
hint: hide, you cowardly racist. better double hide after today - you
insane racists are being watched like never before.
Iarnrod
> On Jan 7, 9:43 am, Jack <J...@noway.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It's Supreme Court day for the Queen of the Birthers, Orly Taitz
>
> > Actually, it's the day when Orly Taitz gets supremely ignored once again
> > when her case gets distributed for conference amongst the justices and
> > she will be required to cough up $20,000 for being a crazy dumb cunt
>
> >http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/10-541.htm
>
> > --
> > "The danger to America is not George W Bush, but a citizenry capable of
> > entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to
> > limit and undo the follies of a George W Bush presidency than to restore
> > the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to
> > have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far
> > more serious than Mr. George W Bush, who is a mere symptom of what ails
> > us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast
> > confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can
> > survive a George W Bush. It is less likely to survive a multitude of
> > fools such as those who made him their president."
>
> > -- Author Unknown, but is assumed to be Thessalonian
>
> But wait !! I thought that self avowed communist that's currently the
> Gubnuh of Hawaii swore he was gonna provide PROOF that your Kenyan
> born Messiah was born in Hawaii !!
Already provided, fuzznuts:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
Case is closed.
Billary
>
> Case is closed.
No it's not:
Iarnrod
Yes, it is. Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on US soil, the
case is closed and the Constitution REQUIRES that you STFU and accept
it.
> Before computers & the internet. It was common for people of that era
> to fake resumes, military service, employment records, college
> degrees, places of birth, dates of birth, marriages, divorces, deaths,
> social security numbers etc.
It's more common now, shit-for-brains. The computer and internet make
it EASIER.
What's that have to do with Obama?
> FACT: There are NO WITNESSES who can place "Ann" Stanley Dunham,
> pregnant, in Honolulu in August 1961.
Yes there are.
> Even Time Magazine could not
> find any.http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-1,00.html
I'm sorry but you must be incredibly stupid (I've kicked your stupid
kkkooker ass plenty of times before). The article you cited made no
such claim and in fact states the opposite. Please don't try to debate
this with your betters.
> FACT: Obama's mother used some form of documentation to forge his
> Hawaiian birth. Those documents have been referred to as "the original
> vital records"
Proven false. Sorry. The records came from the hospital. There was no
forgery.
> FACT: No one, repeat no one, other than a single gubment bureaucrat
> has
> seen those "original vital records"
FACT: No one needs to. The COLB proves it. Case is closed.
> FACT: The world has been denied access to those "original vital
> records"
Good. That means they are abiding by the law. It's already been
proven. The state has certified it and the matter is settled.
> FACT: There are NO WITNESSES who remember the Virgin Ann Dunham
> pregnant with Barry in Honolulu at the purported time of the crime:
Well, since there was no "crime" that's irrelevant. But the FACT
remains that everyone remembers it. You're lying.
> -No doctors
> -No Nurses
> -No Professors
> -No coworkers
> -No Friends
> -No welfare workers (she was purportedly on welfare at the time)
> -No mailmen (the guys who delivered the checks)
> -No landlords (she had to live somewhere)
> -No neighbors (Imagine that!)
> -No records of an automobile or insurance
> -No Bus drivers or cab drivers
> -No babysitters
> -No hairstylists or other service providers
> -No records of a bank or checking account
> -No Utility bills, water. electric or phone
> -No phone listing in the white pages at the time
Prove it. You're lying. You got NO CITE while I have the birth
certificate.
Case is closed.
> THERE IS NOTHING THAT PLACES THE VIRGIN ANN DUNHAM IN HONOLULU IN
> AUGUST 1961. NOTHING AT ALL!!!!!!
Yes there is:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
Case closed. from now on, because of Obama's proof and transparency,
it is likely that EVERYONE running for president will have to show
their birth certificate. That sure would have given Panama Jack McCain
a significant problem!! THANK YOU President Obama for releasing your
birth certificate and raising the bar for everyone. BWAHAHAAAHAHAHAA!!
Even Canadian-born Sarah Paliban would have sweated bullets!
Lookout
wrote:
The fact is several have including the former REPUBLICAN governor.
They can't admit it for two reasons.
One...they lose the argument and have nothing left to say. THAT would
kill them.
Two..they don't have the ability to say they were wrong or that they
were duped. Saying "I'm wrong" or "I'm sorry" is beyond these immature
little twerps. Remember when bush was asked if he had any regrets
concerning his actions as president and he had none? Even AFTER he had
admitted he was wrong about WMDs he STILL had no regrets about lying
to the US and the world.
His ilk just can't admit they are wrong.
JohnJohnsn
wrote:
>
> On Jan 11, 6:50 am, Billary <billaryclinton2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> -No doctors
>> -No Nurses
>> -No Professors
>> -No coworkers
>> -No Friends
>> -No welfare workers (she was purportedly on welfare at the time)
>> -No mailmen (the guys who delivered the checks)
>> -No landlords (she had to live somewhere)
>> -No neighbors (Imagine that!)
>> -No records of an automobile or insurance
>> -No Bus drivers or cab drivers
>> -No babysitters
>> -No hairstylists or other service providers
>> -No records of a bank or checking account
>> -No Utility bills, water. electric or phone
>> -No phone listing in the white pages at the time
>
You mean like the "CITE" we keep requesting of you to back up your
claim that none of the 43 presidents preceeding BHOJr _never_, _EVER_,
released a copy of their birth certificate?
You mean a "CITE" like that?
> ...while I have the birth certificate.
Wrong, "Rails"!
The Vital Records Section of the Hawai'i Department of Health (HDOH)
has BHOJr's "birth certificate" (actually, the "long-form", original
"Certificate of Live Birth" filed for record by Dr. Rodney T. West,
Stanley Ann Dunhan's obstetrician, on Aigust 8, 1961).
What _you_ have is a busted link to an image of the CERTIFICATION that
the HDOH issues as evidence that THEY have the "birth certificate" in
their files; and here's a link that doesn't "clip" due to being overly
long:
<http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
Iarnrod
Yes. Notice he cannot come up with one, unlike me.
> > ...while I have the birth certificate.
>
> Wrong, "Rails"!
Nope. It's correct. Everything I have said is correct in fact. This is
not even remotely in dispute.
> The Vital Records Section of the Hawai'i Department of Health (HDOH)
> has BHOJr's "birth certificate" (actually, the "long-form", original
> "Certificate of Live Birth" filed for record by Dr. Rodney T. West,
> Stanley Ann Dunhan's obstetrician, on Aigust 8, 1961).
>
> What _you_ have is a busted link to an image of the CERTIFICATION that
> the HDOH issues as evidence that THEY have the "birth certificate" in
> their files; and here's a link that doesn't "clip" due to being overly
> long:
And, as I shoved up your stupid KKKooker ass, TinyJohnsn, under
Hawaiian law it is the same thing as a birth certificate. What
confuses you about this: "Shall be considered for all purposes the
same as the original."
You're pretty stupid. Seek help for your Obama Derangement Syndrome.
JohnJohnsn
You have YET to provide a "CITE" that "none of the 43 presidents
preceeding BHOJr _never_, _EVER_".
All you have done thusfar is reiterate the claim over and Over and
OVER AGAIN, but NEVER providing a single piece of backup PROOF.
In fact, research discovers that the ONLY people making this claim are
the other members of your `Obama COLB Cult'.
Not a single reputable journalist, right _or_ left, has made such a
claim; just you Obama COLB Cultists.
>>> ...while I have the birth certificate.
>
>> Wrong, "Rails"!
>
> Nope. It's correct. Everything I have said is correct in fact.
Right above here you claim to have "the (Obama) birth certificste."
If that is so, take a picture of you holding it and post it for all
the world to see.
Otherwise, my statement below stands.
> This is not even remotely in dispute.
Disputed here.
Your problem is that you are so narrowly focused on sucking Obama's
ass that you fail to see that:
1) There is no dispute from me that Obama is the legitimate POTUS; I
may not like his politics and policies, but he IS legitimate;
2) There is no dispute from me that he was born In the city of
Honolulu in the county of Honolulu on the island of Oahu in the state
of Hawai'i on Agust 4, 1961; and,
3) There is no dispute from me that the released "Certification of
Live Birth" (the link to which you "snipped" for some unexplained
reason) stands as proof of the above for all _legal_ purposes.
And since there is no dispute of the above, your repeatedly calling me
a "KKKooker birther" just proves your overall stupidity, demonstrated
almost daily here in Usenet, "Rails."
>> The Vital Records Section of the Hawai'i Department of Health (HDOH)
>> has BHOJr's "birth certificate" (actually, the "long-form", original
>> "Certificate of Live Birth" filed for record by Dr. Rodney T. West,
>> Stanley Ann Dunhan's obstetrician, on Aigust 8, 1961).
>
>> What _you_ have is a busted link to an image of the CERTIFICATION
>> that the HDOH issues as evidence that THEY have the "birth certificate"
>> in their files; and here's a link that doesn't "clip" due to being overly
>> long:
<Restored link>
<http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
</Restored link>
> And, as I shoved up your stupid KKKooker ass, TinyJohnsn, under
> Hawaiian law it is the same thing as a birth certificate. What
> confuses you about this: "Shall be considered for all purposes the
> same as the original."
Thanks for proving your stupidity and inability to read and comprehend
the written English language; AGAIN!
> You're pretty stupid. Seek help for your Obama Derangement Syndrome.
You are the one with ODS, and you have just REproven it again.
Now, "Rails"; demonstrate your stupidity again by coming back and
arguing with the above FACTS!
ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin
to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because
Liberals are so stupid it is easy work."
-- Steven M. Barry
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
— Ronald Wilson Reagan
"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then
are shocked and offended to discover that there _are_ other views."
— William F. Buckley, Jr.
"A Nation of Sheep will beget a Government of Wolves."
— Edward R. Murrow
Iarnrod
I did, of course, not in dispute. Already given several times. You are
too ignorant or too infected with Obama Derangement Syndrome to
realize it.
What's missing, TinyJohnsn, is YOUR cite to ANY OTHER PRESIDENT'S
birth certificate released by him prior to his election. As I proved,
none ever did so this is why you are doing your widdle kookdance here
pretending I haven't shit down your throat.
> All you have done thusfar is reiterate the claim over and Over and
> OVER AGAIN, but NEVER providing a single piece of backup PROOF.
All proven.
Here it is yet again, to be followed soon I am sure after your glue
sniffing high wears off with yet one more denial post totally lacking
in actual refutation:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others.
QED
> In fact, research discovers that the ONLY people making this claim are
> the other members of your `Obama COLB Cult'.
Nope. Everyone knows it but you IDS sufferers.
> Not a single reputable journalist, right _or_ left, has made such a
> claim; just you Obama COLB Cultists.
Nope. All have. Your FAILURE to cite to one single other president's
birth certificate released before his election SPEAKS VOLUMES for you
utter failure and your debilitating case of Obama Derangement
Syndrome.
> >>> ...while I have the birth certificate.
>
> >> Wrong, "Rails"!
>
> > Nope. It's correct. Everything I have said is correct in fact.
>
> Right above here you claim to have "the (Obama) birth certificste."
I never claimed to have an "Obama birth certificste." But I do of
course have the Obama birth certificate, as does the whole sane world.
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
> If that is so, take a picture of you holding it and post it for all
> the world to see.
Fuck you. YOU are MY puppy dog, loon, not the other way around. How
about YOU take a picture of yourself with all previous 43 presidents'
birth certificates you seem to "think" had been released to the
public? <snicker> Hint: Youc an't and you won't because as I have
proven, THIS is the ONLY ONE EVER:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
Lemme do that again.
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
OUCH!! That's GOTTA hurt ya!
> Otherwise, my statement below stands.
None of your statements stands, KKKooker Kleagle.
> > This is not even remotely in dispute.
>
> Disputed here.
Nope, not at all. A disputation, you see, would have to have actual
dispute and you of course have none.
> Your problem is that you are so narrowly focused on sucking Obama's
> ass that you fail to see that:
You are so narrowly focused on your derangement that a black man is
your leader that:
> 1) There is no dispute from me that Obama is the legitimate POTUS; I
> may not like his politics and policies, but he IS legitimate;
Of course. But one must ask, what is it about his policies that have
saved America and capitalism from the second Great Republican
Depression within 80 years' time that you dislike?
Do you truly hate America this much?
> 2) There is no dispute from me that he was born In the city of
> Honolulu in the county of Honolulu on the island of Oahu in the state
> of Hawai'i on Agust 4, 1961; and,
Then it would be time for you to STFU and thank me for kicking your
ass.
> 3) There is no dispute from me that the released "Certification of
> Live Birth" (the link to which you "snipped" for some unexplained
> reason)
WTF?!?
> stands as proof of the above for all _legal_ purposes.
>
> And since there is no dispute of the above, your repeatedly calling me
> a "KKKooker birther" just proves your overall stupidity, demonstrated
> almost daily here in Usenet, "Rails."
No it doesn't.
It proves YOURS because if you accept all this then you should STFU
instead of volunteering day in and day out for me to kick your stupid
KKKooker ass.
> >> The Vital Records Section of the Hawai'i Department of Health (HDOH)
> >> has BHOJr's "birth certificate" (actually, the "long-form", original
> >> "Certificate of Live Birth" filed for record by Dr. Rodney T. West,
> >> Stanley Ann Dunhan's obstetrician, on Aigust 8, 1961).
>
> >> What _you_ have is a busted link
My link is not "busted," kludd; YOU Are the one who is "busted!"
BWAHAAAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> >> to an image of the CERTIFICATION
> >> that the HDOH issues as evidence that THEY have the "birth certificate"
> >> in their files; and here's a link that doesn't "clip" due to being overly
> >> long:
Wow, get yourself something more modern than a Commodore 64, fuzznuts.
> > And, as I shoved up your stupid KKKooker ass, TinyJohnsn, under
> > Hawaiian law it is the same thing as a birth certificate. What
> > confuses you about this: "Shall be considered for all purposes the
> > same as the original."
>
> Thanks for proving your stupidity and inability to read and comprehend
> the written English language; AGAIN!
Projection.
> > You're pretty stupid. Seek help for your Obama Derangement Syndrome.
>
> You are the one with ODS, and you have just REproven it again.
Ummm, I don't quite know how to break this to ya, nutbag, but ODS is
an ailment of you racist scumbags who are frothing and foaming at the
fact that a black man was elected POTUS by a landslide.
> Now, "Rails"; demonstrate your stupidity again by coming back and
> arguing with the above FACTS!
You have no FACTS, TinyJohnsn. I have thoroughly proven that.
r_c_...@hushmail.com
Absolutely.
> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
> certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on US soil,
This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor party
could very well have released his or her birth certification, and we
would never know it.
> the
> case is closed and the Constitution REQUIRES that you STFU and accept
> it.
>
Well, no; the Constitution enumerates the right to freedom of speech.
How a person choses to exercise that right - foolishly or not - is not
addressed by the Constitution.
> Yes there is:http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama...
JohnJohnsn
<r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
>> certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on US soil,
>
> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor party
> could very well have released his or her birth certification, and we
> would never know it.
And _that_ is _exactly_ the point I've been trying to drive into the
thick skull of "Rails" (Iarnród) here.
It has made the claim and has fought tooth and nail to make everyone
believe it without _ever_ providing a single iota of proof to back it
up.
It has backed itself into a corner by trying to claim a negative as a
positive; to-wit: by claiming BHOJr to be the "ONLY" means that there
must also be the accompanying "never" from ALL presedential candidates
since the first election in 1789. Care to hazard a guess as to just
how many persons that might be? <g>
"Rails" is too stupid to admit that it cannot prove, beyond a
reasonable doubt, that no single candidate, no matter how obscure, has
never presented, displayed or released a copy of his birth
certificate.
It never learns and will continue to harp the Obama COLB Cult line
right up until BHOJr gets blown out of the water in the 2012 General
Election.
"Sunday, January 20, 2013: The End of an Error"
Gray Ghost
2b86eb...@i17g2000vbq.googlegroups.com:
Beyond a reasonable doubt? You could have stopped at "it cannot prove".
--
If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
Republicans
You are not part of the solution,
You are not part of the problem.
You ARE the problem.
JohnJohnsn
>
> On Jan 14, 7:19 am, JohnJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Your problem is that you are so narrowly focused on sucking Obama's
>> ass that you fail to see that:
>
> You are so narrowly focused on your derangement that a black man is
> your leader that:
"Appearances often are deceiving"
--Aesop
You racists just cannot get over the fact that despite his physical
appearance, Barack Hussein Obama Jr is WHITE; proven by both his
Certification of Live Birth, which establishes his race as "Caucasian/
African" (with "African" being the "race" listed for his father; and
"African" does NOT equal "black": just ask the white Africans; the
Afrikanners and Boers), as well as the U.S. Department of Health law
that establishes a child's race from that of the mother; to-wit:
"Caucasian":
<http://a11news.com/images/obama-birth-certificate.jpg>
So drop all that racist "Obama is black" bovine excrement!
>> 1) There is no dispute from me that Obama is the legitimate POTUS;
>> I may not like his politics and policies, but he IS legitimate;
>
> Of course. But one must ask, what is it about his policies that have
> saved America and capitalism from the second Great Republican
> Depression within 80 years' time that you dislike?
How about this one?
"US debt passes $14 trillion"
WASHINGTON – The United States just passed a dubious milestone:
Government debt surged to an all-time high, more than $14 trillion.
...
Here's what then-Sen. Barack Obama said on the Senate floor in 2006:
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt
limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S.
government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on
ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance the
government's reckless fiscal policies."
...
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110115/ap_on_re_us/us_debt_wars>
All on BHOJr's watch!
Wonder if BHOJr _still_ believes it's "a sign of leadership failure"?
<vBweg>
"If Ignorance is Bliss, then Liberalism must be Nirvana"
"Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever
redeeming a fallen nation rather than leading a great one."
— Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal, 10/28/2010
Iarnrod
> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
>
> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
> >> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
> >> certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on US soil,
>
> > This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
> > parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor party
> > could very well have released his or her birth certification, and we
> > would never know it.
>
> And _that_ is _exactly_ the point I've been trying to drive into the
> thick skull of "Rails" (Iarnród) here.
And you have been failing, dearie.
I proved my case. There are no other birth certificates available that
were released by any other candidates. QED. You have been unable to
refute this.
> It has made the claim and has fought tooth and nail to make everyone
> believe it without _ever_ providing a single iota of proof to back it
> up.
I provided proof.
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available.
FACT you cannot refute.
> It has backed itself into a corner
I have put YOU in the corner, fuckwit. That's not even a decent try at
evasion by you!! <SNICKER>
> by trying to claim a negative as a
> positive; to-wit: by claiming BHOJr to be the "ONLY" means that there
> must also be the accompanying "never" from ALL presedential candidates
> since the first election in 1789. Care to hazard a guess as to just
> how many persons that might be? <g>
Yet not one single one of them ever released a birth certificate to
the public before the election to prove natural born citizenship until
Obama.
I have proven this and you are impotent in trying to disprove it.
> "Rails" is too stupid to admit that it cannot prove, beyond a
> reasonable doubt, that no single candidate, no matter how obscure, has
> never presented, displayed or released a copy of his birth
> certificate.
Done and done.
> It never learns and will continue to harp the Obama COLB Cult line
> right up until BHOJr gets blown out of the water in the 2012 General
> Election.
He will of course be re-elected by an even bigger landslide than 2008.
> "Sunday, January 20, 2013: The End of an Error"
Saving America was an error?
You are a traitor.
JohnJohnsn
Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult', wrote:
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
>> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
>>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
>>>> certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on
>>>> US soil,
>
>>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
>>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
>>> party could very well have released his or her birth certification, and
>>> we would never know it.
We notice that "Rails" simply ignored the above statement from another
Obama supporter.
Reason? It does not support the claim of "Rails" that BHOJr is "the
FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
certificate".
While he (or rather his campaign staff) most certainly did, "Rails"
cannot proves that BHOJr is the "ONLY" one "EVER" to do so.
>> And _that_ is _exactly_ the point I've been trying to drive into the
>> thick skull of "Rails" (Iarnród) here.
>
> And you have been failing, dearie.
>
> I proved my case. There are no other birth certificates available that
> were released by any other candidates. QED.
Prove it!
>You have been unable to refute this.
I've refuted your false claim over and over again, "Rails"; and you
still cannot provide proof to support your claim that BJHOJr is "the
FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
certificate".
[Now watch it post yet another link to BHOJr's Certification of Live
Birth in an ill-fated attempt at "proof"]
>> It has made the claim and has fought tooth and nail to make everyone
>> believe it without _ever_ providing a single iota of proof to back it
>> up.
>
> I provided proof.
>
> http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama...
> No others available.
"What a Maroon!"
"Will ya get a load of this maroon?"
--Bugs Bunny
That's Obama's, "Rails"; we're discussing all the OTHER presidential
candidates sine 1789 (since you stated that BHOJr is "the FIRST and
ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate").
You're too stupid to realize that just because you cannot find it on
the web _does_NOT_ mean that it does not exist.
Not every document presented since 1789 is web-available, "Rails."
> FACT you cannot refute.
I :"refute" that you have presented evidence that no other
presidential candidate since 1789 has "EVER" presented a birth
certificate.
>> It has backed itself into a corner...
>
> I have put YOU in the corner, fuckwit. That's not even a decent try at
> evasion by you!! <SNICKER>
>
>> ...by trying to claim a negative as a positive; to-wit: by claiming BHOJr
>> to be the "ONLY" means that there must also be the accompanying
>> "never" from ALL presedential candidates since the first election in
>> 1789. Care to hazard a guess as to just how many persons that might
>> be? <g>
>
> Yet not one single one of them ever released a birth certificate to
> the public before the election to prove natural born citizenship until
> Obama.
Prove it!
> I have proven this and you are impotent in trying to disprove it.
I've never claimed that they have; I've just challenged you to PROVE
your claim that they DIDN'T.
Thusfar, you've failed to convince ANYONE that they did not.
>> "Rails" is too stupid to admit that it cannot prove, beyond a reasonable
>> doubt, that no single candidate, no matter how obscure, has never
>> presented, displayed or released a copy of his birth certificate.
>
> Done and done.
Never happened, "Rails."
Back up your claim by "reposting" it here (and just reposting yet
another link to BHOJr's "COLB" is not proof).
>> It never learns and will continue to harp the Obama COLB Cult line
>> right up until BHOJr gets blown out of the water in the 2012 General
>> Election.
>
> He will of course be re-elected by an even bigger landslide than 2008.
"When hell freezes over."
>> "Sunday, January 20, 2013: The End of an Error"
>
> Saving America was an error?
"Record $14 trillion-plus debt weighs on Congress"
By Tom Raum, Associated Press
WASHINGTON – The United States just passed a dubious milestone:
Government debt surged to an all-time high, topping $14 trillion
...
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110115/ap_on_re_us/us_debt_wars>
That's all on Obama's watch, "Rails."
How much _worse_ will it be by 2013-01-20?
> You are a traitor.
I am a PATRIOT, "Rails."
YOU are an Obama COLB Cultist Left-Wing Lying Liberal Socialist LOSER
DimocRat™ (est. 2010-11-02)1D01T!
ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin
to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because
Liberals are so stupid it is easy work."
— Steven M. Barry
Iarnrod
> On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Mighty Iarnrod, aka Ass-Kicker to the Rightards <iarn...@yahoo.com>, proved:
> > On Jan 15, 12:01 am, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
> >> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
> >>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
> >>>>certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on
> >>>> US soil,
>
> >>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
> >>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
> >>> party could very well have released his or her birth certification, and
> >>> we would never know it.
>
> We notice that "Rails" simply ignored the above statement from another
> Obama supporter.
I did no such thing. I confronted it and showed it to be wrong.
American history is well documented. Your continued appearance here to
parade your ongoing failure to refute is duly noted. Obama is the only
presidential candidate in our history to release his birth certificate
to the public at large to confirm his constitutional eligibility. This
is an irrefutable FACT that your continuing lack of refutation only
makes more certain.
> Reason? It does not support the claim of "Rails" that BHOJr is "the
> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
The claim has been proven beyond all doubt, TinyJohnsn.
> While he (or rather his campaign staff) most certainly did, "Rails"
> cannot proves that BHOJr is the "ONLY" one "EVER" to do so.
I already did, Tiny Johnsn.
> >> And _that_ is _exactly_ the point I've been trying to drive into the
> >> thick skull of "Rails" (Iarnród) here.
>
> > And you have been failing, dearie.
>
> > I proved my case. There are no other birth certificates available that
> > were released by any other candidates. QED.
>
> Prove it!
I already did.
Where is your refutation, nut job?
You are Cleopatra, Queen of Denial!! You gots NUTTIN’ kkkook.
> >You have been unable to refute this.
>
> I've refuted your false claim over and over again.
You have not provided one little shred of refutation at all, Tiny
Johnsn. You’ve only provided denial but, alas for you, no citation to
any other candidate in history to release his/her birth certificate.
How can that BE!! You “think” it’s done regularly but yet there is no
historical record whatsoever of this ever happening before your
current president.
Case is closed. I am right, you are wrong.
> you
> still cannot provide proof to support your claim that BJHOJr is "the
> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
**ahem** http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available.
Case closed.
> >> It has made the claim and has fought tooth and nail to make everyone
> >> believe it without _ever_ providing a single iota of proof to back it
> >> up.
>
> > I provided proof.
>
> >http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama...
> > No others available.
>
> "What a Maroon!"
> "Will ya get a load of this maroon?"
> --Bugs Bunny
Bugs is lookin’ squarely atcha, maroon!
> That's Obama's, "Rails"; we're discussing all the OTHER presidential
> candidates sine 1789 (since you stated that BHOJr is "the FIRST and
> ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate").
Yes, of course we are, and as I proved, no others are available. Only
Obama’s. Why is that? Why, it’s because he’s the only one who did
this.
Were you born stupid or were you dropped on your head as an infant?
> You're too stupid to realize that just because you cannot find it on
> the web _does_NOT_ mean that it does not exist.
You’re too stupid to realize that this is not the basis of my claim.
You’re too stupid to realize that no other presidential candidate in
history ever did what Obama did in releasing his birth certificate to
the public to prove his natural born citizenship.
Do you stab yourself in the face while trying to feed yourself?
> > FACT you cannot refute.
>
> I :"refute" that you have presented evidence that no other
> presidential candidate since 1789 has "EVER" presented a birth certificate.
No, you refuted no such thing. You merely denied it while I proved it
was true.
> >> It has backed itself into a corner...
>
> > I have put YOU in the corner, fuckwit. That's not even a decent try at
> > evasion by you!! <SNICKER>
>
> >> ...by trying to claim a negative as a positive; to-wit: by claiming BHOJr
> >> to be the "ONLY" means that there must also be the accompanying
> >> "never" from ALL presedential candidates since the first election in
> >> 1789. Care to hazard a guess as to just how many persons that might
> >> be? <g>
>
> > Yet not one single one of them ever released a birth certificate to
> > the public before the election to prove natural born citizenship until
> > Obama.
>
> Prove it!
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available.
Now if only Tiny Johnsn could manage to come up with any evidence that
any other candidate did this. Too bad so sad for Tiny Johnsn that he
cannot find one shred of evidence to back up his claim that I haven’t
proven my point. When only one – ONLY ONE OTHER – would shut me up!!
Yet little Tiny Johnsn cannot even manage one, not one!!
BWAHAHAHHAAAAA!!! Tiny is fuming and foaming in impotent rage, yet
cannot come up with one shred of refutation to accompany his blind
denial of truth!
> > I have proven this and you are impotent in trying to disprove it.
>
> I've never claimed that they have; I've just challenged you to PROVE
> your claim that they DIDN'T.
I already did so, Cleopatra.
> Thusfar, you've failed to convince ANYONE that they did not.
Wrong. I have kicked your stupid kkkooker ass. NO OTHER CANDIDATE
released a birth certificate, and this is a historical fact.
> >> "Rails" is too stupid to admit that it cannot prove, beyond a reasonable
> >> doubt, that no single candidate, no matter how obscure, has never
> >> presented, displayed or released a copy of his birth certificate.
>
> > Done and done.
>
> Never happened, "Rails."
Happens in every single reply I make to your stupid kkkooker ass,
Tiny.
> Back up your claim by "reposting" it here (and just reposting yet
> another link to BHOJr's "COLB" is not proof).
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available.
QED.
Case closed.
Now YOU try to post evidence that any other candidate DID do so.
<tee hee>
<<crickets chirping>>
Sux to be TinyJohnsn!!!
> >> It never learns and will continue to harp the Obama COLB Cult line
> >> right up until BHOJr gets blown out of the water in the 2012 General
> >> Election.
>
> > He will of course be re-elected by an even bigger landslide than 2008.
>
> "When hell freezes over."
America is not about to put the same criminals in charge who casued
this mess.
> >> "Sunday, January 20, 2013: The End of an Error"
>
> > Saving America was an error?
>
> "Record $14 trillion-plus debt weighs on Congress"
Caused by GOP economic policies, of course, not in dispute.
> By Tom Raum, Associated Press
>
> WASHINGTON – The United States just passed a dubious milestone:
> Government debt surged to an all-time high, topping $14 trillion
> ...
> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110115/ap_on_re_us/us_debt_wars>
>
> That's all on Obama's watch, "Rails."
Really? Got a link to your claim that Obama presided over America
moutning $14 trillion in debt?
<snicker>
Now THAT will be more difficult that your trying to come up with
evidence of any other candidate who released his birth certificate!
BWAHAHAAAAHHAAA!!!
Hint: Most of that $14 trillion in debt came from Republican
administrations.
Please provide a link to evidence for your claim that Obama came into
office with $0 in national debt.
> > You are a traitor.
>
> I am a PATRIOT, "Rails."
You are not a patriot, you have already expressed your deep hatred for
America and her president. You are a traitor for sure. Wishing
another incompetent GOP administration into office is treason. It
would finish off the destruction of the American economy that is at
the heart of the Republican platform.
r_c_...@hushmail.com
> On Jan 15, 2:11 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Mighty Iarnrod, aka Ass-Kicker to the Rightards <iarn...@yahoo.com>, proved:
> > > On Jan 15, 12:01 am, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
> > >> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
> > >>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
> > >>>>certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on
> > >>>> US soil,
>
> > >>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
> > >>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
> > >>> party could very well have released his or her birth certification, and
> > >>> we would never know it.
>
> > We notice that "Rails" simply ignored the above statement from another
> > Obama supporter.
>
> I did no such thing. I confronted it and showed it to be wrong.
If you replied to me with respect to my comment, I missed it.
Here is what is purported to be John McCain's birth certificate:
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/06/mccains-citizen.html
> **ahem**http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama...
> http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama...
> http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama...
Iarnrod
wrote:
> On Jan 15, 5:55 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2:11 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Mighty Iarnrod, aka Ass-Kicker to the Rightards <iarn...@yahoo.com>, proved:
> > > > On Jan 15, 12:01 am, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
> > > >> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
> > > >>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release hisbirth
> > > >>>> US soil,
>
> > > >>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
> > > >>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
> > > >>> we would never know it.
>
> > > We notice that "Rails" simply ignored the above statement from another
> > > Obama supporter.
>
> > I did no such thing. I confronted it and showed it to be wrong.
>
> If you replied to me with respect to my comment, I missed it.
>
It remains uncertain whether this is genuine, but don't forget the
question here. Obama is the first and only presidential candidate to
release his birth certificate to the public to prove he is a natural
born citizen. It's immaterial whether this is McCain's real Panamanian
birth certificate or not; the fact remains that McCain not only did
not release one, but he specifically and steadfastly refused. He
allegedly allowed one single newspaper reporter to view it but not
copy it. The one online was not released by McCain for any reason,
whether it's real or not.
So McCain does not fit the parameters of the claim.
JohnJohnsn
>> Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult', wrote:
>>
>
>>>> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
>>>> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
>>>>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
>>>>>> certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on
>>>>>> US soil,
>
>>>>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
>>>>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
>>>>> party could very well have released his or her birth certification, and
>>>>> we would never know it.
>
>> We notice that "Rails" simply ignored the above statement from another
>> Obama supporter.
>
> I did no such thing.
Yes you did.
> I confronted it and showed it to be wrong.
Never happened.
> American history is well documented.
Then show the documents which support your false and unfounded
assertion that Obama "the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to
release his birth certificate".
The ONLY sources for this is from other members of your `Obama COLB
Cult':
<http://tinyurl.com/Obama-COLB-Cultists>
No reputable journalist has made such an outrageous, unsubstantiated
claim; just you OAS (Obama Ass Suckers).
> Your continued appearance here to parade your ongoing failure to refute is duly noted.
You have been refuted at every tirne, "Rails"; especially way back
when you argued with me when I made the statement that Obama is the
legitimate POTUS.
You are so used to "knee-jerking" whenever anyone mentions "Obama" and
"Birth" in the same sentence you fail to read the sentence completely
and merely regurgitate your "Obama is the Annointed One" bullcrap.
> Obama is the only presidential candidate in our history to release his
> birth certificate to the public at large to confirm his constitutional eligibility.
Yet another assertion unsupported by any physical evidence: typical
Obama COLB Cultist Pavlovian reaction.
Say "Obama" and you get "COLB!"
"Rails" probably has to have a waterproof keyboard to keep from
shorting out its computer due to drooling whenever "Onbama" is
mentioned.
> This is an irrefutable FACT that your continuing lack of refutation only
> makes more certain.
What's "certain" is that you continue to fail and refuse to provide
ANY proof to support your constant false assertion that BHOJr is "the
FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
certificate".
>> Reason? It does not support the claim of "Rails" that BHOJr is "the
>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
>
> The claim has been proven beyond all doubt, TinyJohnsn.
False.
>> While he (or rather his campaign staff) most certainly did, "Rails"
>> cannot proves that BHOJr is the "ONLY" one "EVER" to do so.
>
> I already did, Tiny Johnsn.
Not here in Usenet, you haven't.
>>>> And _that_ is _exactly_ the point I've been trying to drive into the
>>>> thick skull of "Rails" (Iarnród) here.
>
>>> And you have been failing, dearie.
>
>>> I proved my case. There are no other birth certificates available that
>>> were released by any other candidates. QED.
>
>> Prove it!
>
> I already did.
Never happened.
> Where is your refutation, nut job?
>
> You are Cleopatra, Queen of Denial!! You gots NUTTIN’ kkkook.
>
>>> You have been unable to refute this.
>
>> I've refuted your false claim over and over again.
>
> You have not provided one little shred of refutation at all, Tiny
> Johnsn. You’ve only provided denial but, alas for you, no citation
> to any other candidate in history to release his/her birth certificate.
> How can that BE!! You “think” it’s done regularly...
No I do not; but that does _not_ mean it "NEVER" happened.
> ...but yet there is no historical record whatsoever of this ever happening
> before your current president.
Still trying to prove a negative, without a single iota of evidence to
back it up, we see.
> Case is closed. I am right, you are wrong.
>
>> you still cannot provide proof to support your claim that BJHOJr is "the
>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
>
> **ahem** http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
**ahem** Link still broken.
But here's what you are trying to find:
<http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
Oh, and BTW: the redacted Certification Number is 151-1961-010641 and
his obstetrician's name was Dr.Rodney T. West.
> No others available.
No actual investigation of all available written records of
presidential candidates since 1789 conducted by "Rails, the Rude Train
Wreck."
If you never look you will never find.
> Case closed.
In your dreams.
>>>> It has made the claim and has fought tooth and nail to make everyone
>>>> believe it without _ever_ providing a single iota of proof to back it
>>>> up.
>
>>> I provided proof.
>
>>> http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
>>> No others available.
>
>> "What a Maroon!"
>> "Will ya get a load of this maroon?"
>> --Bugs Bunny
>
> Bugs is lookin’ squarely atcha, maroon!
>
>> That's Obama's, "Rails"; we're discussing all the OTHER presidential
>> candidates sine 1789 (since you stated that BHOJr is "the FIRST and
>> ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate").
>
> Yes, of course we are, and as I proved, no others are available.
An assertion not supported by ANY documentable evidence; merely your
unsupported false assertions, "Rails" (as usual).
> Only Obama’s. Why is that? Why, it’s because he’s the only one who did this.
Still just an assertion unsupported by _any_ evidence, "Rails".
>> You're too stupid to realize that just because you cannot find it on
>> the web _does_NOT_ mean that it does not exist.
>
> You’re too stupid to realize that this is not the basis of my claim.
It's the EXACT basis for your claim!
> You’re too stupid to realize that no other presidential candidate in
> history ever did what Obama did in releasing his birth certificate to
> the public to prove his natural born citizenship.
Still no evidence to support this assertion, "Rails."
> Do you stab yourself in the face while trying to feed yourself?
>
>>> FACT you cannot refute.
>
>> I "refute" that you have presented evidence that no other presidential
>> candidate since 1789 has "EVER" presented a birth certificate.
>
> No, you refuted no such thing. You merely denied it while I proved it
> was true.
The ONLY thing you have proved is that you think the entire world is
so stupid as to actually believe that you have researched every
available written record throughout the entire United States and found
no record that no other of the presidential candidates since 1789 has
"EVER' released , shown or displayed his birth certificate to ANYONE.
>>>> It has backed itself into a corner...
>
>>> I have put YOU in the corner, fuckwit. That's not even a decent try at
>>> evasion by you!! <SNICKER>
>
>>>> ...by trying to claim a negative as a positive; to-wit: by claiming BHOJr
>>>> to be the "ONLY" means that there must also be the accompanying
>>>> "never" from ALL presedential candidates since the first election in
>>>> 1789. Care to hazard a guess as to just how many persons that might
>>>> be? <g>
>
>>> Yet not one single one of them ever released a birth certificate to
>>> the public before the election to prove natural born citizenship until
>>> Obama.
>
>> Prove it!
>
> http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
As usual, "Rails" posts the same broken link to the image of the
redacted "Certification of Live Birth"; rather than use the working
one I provided:
<http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
Don't like that one? Well here's yet another:
<http://fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg>
Both of those are from Pro-Obama sources.
> No others available.
No evidence provided to support this.
> Now if only Tiny Johnsn could manage to come up with any evidence that
> any other candidate did this.
I don't have to; as I am not claiming that any other presidential
candidate did; just that you cannot prove that they didn't, "Rails."
YOU "painted yourself into the corneer" by claiming something that you
cannot prove.
>Too bad so sad for Tiny Johnsn that he cannot find one shred of evidence to back
> up his claim that I haven’t proven my point.
You have proven it for me time and time again by not posting proof to
support your assertion that BJHOJr is "the FIRST and ONLY US
presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
You are trying your damnedest to apply "circular reasoning" here:
"BHOJr is the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his
birth certificate"
"Since I say BJHOJr is the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to
release his birth certificate, that PROVES that BJHOJr is the FIRST
and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
BJHOJr is the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his
birth certificate because I say so."
Ergo; BJHOJr is the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to
release his birth certificate".
<http://nashath.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/circular-
reasoning11.jpg>
> When only one – ONLY ONE OTHER – would shut me up!!
That's the very reason you won't look for evidence to support your
assertion, "Rails": you're afraid you might actually find one!
> Yet little Tiny Johnsn cannot even manage one, not one!!
No need; as I am _not_ trying to prove there has been one released,
displayed or shown; just that you cannot prove it never happened!
That's the corner YOU painted YOURSELF into; all by yourself.
BTW: you _do_ realize that George W had to produce his Connecticut
birth certificate to the U.S. Air Force when he joined the Air
National Guard; don't you? (You didn't stipulate as to _when_ a
"presidential candidate" had to have "released his birth certificate"
<g>).
Moreover, Ronald Wilson Reagan's birth certificate is on display in
the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library; in the "Early Years" gallery
just to the left of the Dixon arch.
> BWAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!
Abderian laughter: Given to incessant or idiotic laughter; inclined to
foolish or incessant merriment; from Abdera, in Thrace, whose citizens
were proverbial as rustic simpletons who would laugh at anything or
anyone they didn't understand (making their town the Hellenic
equivalent of Gotham).
> Tiny is fuming and foaming in impotent rage, yet cannot come up with one
> shred of refutation to accompany his blind denial of truth!
>
>>> I have proven this and you are impotent in trying to disprove it.
>
>> I've never claimed that they have; I've just challenged you to PROVE
>> your claim that they DIDN'T.
>
> I already did so, Cleopatra.
Not yet.
>> Thusfar, you've failed to convince ANYONE that they did not.
>
> Wrong. I have kicked your stupid kkkooker ass. NO OTHER CANDIDATE
> released a birth certificate, and this is a historical fact.
The show us the "history", Iarnród.
Thusfar the only "history" is your false assertion that there
_is_"history."
>>>> "Rails" is too stupid to admit that it cannot prove, beyond a reasonable
>>>> doubt, that no single candidate, no matter how obscure, has never
>>>> presented, displayed or released a copy of his birth certificate.
>
>>> Done and done.
>
>> Never happened, "Rails."
>
> Happens in every single reply I make to your stupid kkkooker ass,
> Tiny.
Is "kkkoker" your backhanded way of claiming that BJOJr is "black"?
We're already shot that claim down with his oen "Certification of Live
Birth":
<http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
Care to show us where it states his race as "Black", oh Rude One?
It is clearly proof that BHOJr is "Caucasian/African": not "Black."
And U.S. Department of Health LAW requires that the child's race is
determined by the MOTHER's race; which is "Caucasian" (aka:"White").
Research it for yourself: I've posted a link before.
And since you are such an "excellent" researcher .... <snicker>
>> Back up your claim by "reposting" it here (and just reposting yet
>> another link to BHOJr's "COLB" is not proof).
>
> http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
>
> No others available.
>
> QED.
>
> Case closed.
>
> Now YOU try to post evidence that any other candidate DID do so.
Don't have to, Iarnród; as I am not claiming that they did; just that
you CANNOT prove that they DIDN'T!
> <tee hee>
>
> <<crickets chirping>>
That's the sound of Iarnród as it wonders just how to prove the
negative it asserts here.
> Sux to be TinyJohnsn!!!
>
>>>> It never learns and will continue to harp the Obama COLB Cult line
>>>> right up until BHOJr gets blown out of the water in the 2012 General
>>>> Election.
>
>>> He will of course be re-elected by an even bigger landslide than 2008.
>
>> "When hell freezes over."
>
> America is not about to put the same criminals in charge who casued
> this mess.
>
>>>> "Sunday, January 20, 2013: The End of an Error"
>
>>> Saving America was an error?
>
>> "Record $14 trillion-plus debt weighs on Congress"
>
> Caused by GOP economic policies, of course, not in dispute.
Obama has been in charge for twenty-four months now, Iarnród: all the
policies driving us to bankruptcy are his.
>> By Tom Raum, Associated Press
>
>> WASHINGTON – The United States just passed a dubious milestone:
>> Government debt surged to an all-time high, topping $14 trillion
>> ...
>> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110115/ap_on_re_us/us_debt_wars>
>
>> That's all on Obama's watch, "Rails."
>
> Really? Got a link to your claim that Obama presided over America
> moutning $14 trillion in debt?
>
> <snicker>
Are you claiming that the lamestream media, in this case Tom Raum of
the Associated Press, is lying to us?
> Now THAT will be more difficult that your trying to come up with
> evidence of any other candidate who released his birth certificate!
> BWAHAHAAAAHHAAA!!!
>
> Hint: Most of that $14 trillion in debt came from Republican
> administrations.
>
> Please provide a link to evidence for your claim that Obama came into
> office with $0 in national debt.
Didn't say that; now did I?
However, here's the proof of Obama "spendthriftiness:
<http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/zFacts-Reagan-Bush-National-Debt.gif>
You will note that the national debt was $3.8T when George W handed
the reins over to BHOJr.
Now it's $14T+; all under a Democrat administration woth a Democrat
House (where spending bill must originate per the U.S. Constitution)
and a Democrat Senate.
"That's the fact, Jack!" --Bill Murray
>>> You are a traitor.
>
>> I am a PATRIOT, "Rails."
>
> You are not a patriot, you have already expressed your deep hatred for
> America and her president. You are a traitor for sure. Wishing
> another incompetent GOP administration into office is treason. It
> would finish off the destruction of the American economy that is at
> the heart of the Republican platform.
Care to supply a quote from _any_ Republican Party Platform from _any_
year, backing up that false assertion, "Rails"?
Thought not: just another unsupported assertion from a Left-Wing Lying
Liberal Socialist DimocRAt LOSER™ (est. 2010-11-02) Obama COLB
Cultist.
BTW: we ALL noticed that you "snipped" my blowing your lying racist
ass out of the water on your "Obama is black" assertion.
"Run Away!" --Iarnród
ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι
"Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever
redeeming a fallen nation rather than leading a great one."
— Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal, 10/28/2010
"If Ignorance is Bliss, then Liberalism must be Nirvana"
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin
to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because
Liberals are so stupid it is easy work."
-- Steven M. Barry
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
— Ronald Wilson Reagan
"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then
are shocked and offended to discover that there _are_ other views."
— William F. Buckley, Jr.
"A Nation of Sheep will beget a Government of Wolves."
— Edward R. Murrow
r_c_...@hushmail.com
As I mentioned earlier, this would be hard to prove, as there are
currently over 50 political parties in these Unites States. Some
candidate from some minor party could very well have released his or
her birth certification, and we would never know it.
r_c_...@hushmail.com
<snip>
> <http://fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg>
>
While I have no question in my mind that Mr. Obama is a natural born
citizen, I think it's rather ironic that the image at this site has
the Certificate Number redacted, and a large warning at the bottom of
the image: "Any Alterations Invalidate This Certificate".
:-)
<snip>
This is a lousy graphic. The national debt was not $3.8T when Mr.
Bush's term ended; the $3.8T figure is what is being claimed as Mr.
Bush's "contribution" to the debt. It is also incorrect.
On September 28, 2001, the last day of Mr. Clinton's final budget, the
nation debt stood at $5.807T.
On September 30, 2009, the last day of Mr. Bush's final budget, the
national debt stood at $11.909T.
This is an increase of $6.102T, not $3.8T.
The current debt (as of 01/13/2011) is $14.007T, and increase of
$2.098T.
Yikes.
Source: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway
<snip>
JohnJohnsn
While I did not save the link at the time of the discovery, there is
an unredacted copy available, and that is where I copied the
Certification Number: 151-1961-010641 .
What Iarnród the Simpleton cannot seem to grasp is the fact that I,
like you and most Americans, have no problem with the fact Barack
Hussein Obama Jr was born in Hawai'i to U.S. citizen Stanley Ann
Dunham Soetoro¹ Obama and, therefore, legally the POTUS.
My dispute with Iarnród is its constant, unsupported by any factual
evidence outside its incessant rantings and the rantings of the other
`Coama COLB Cultists', assertion that Obama is "the FIRST and ONLY US
presidential candidate to release his birth certificate."
That is a claim that in itself cannot be proven without _extensive_,
personal inspection of paper records of all sources in the United
States from 1789 to present; something Iarnród will _never_ do.
If it would drop that claim there would be no controversy. (Well;
there _is_ that constant claim that Obama's "race"² is "black." :\ )
> <snip>
>
>>>>>> "Sunday, January 20, 2013: The End of an Error"
>
>>>>> Saving America was an error?
>
>>>> "Record $14 trillion-plus debt weighs on Congress"
>
>>> Caused by GOP economic policies, of course, not in dispute.
>
>> Obama has been in charge for twenty-four months now, Iarnród: all the
>> policies driving us to bankruptcy are his.
>
>>>> By Tom Raum, Associated Press
>
>>>> WASHINGTON – The United States just passed a dubious milestone:
>>>> Government debt surged to an all-time high, topping $14 trillion
>>>> ...
>>>> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110115/ap_on_re_us/us_debt_wars>
>
>>>> That's all on Obama's watch, "Rails."
>
>>> Really? Got a link to your claim that Obama presided over America
>>> moutning $14 trillion in debt?
>
>>> <snicker>
>
>> Are you claiming that the lamestream media, in this case Tom Raum of
>> the Associated Press, is lying to us?
>
>>> Now THAT will be more difficult that your trying to come up with
>>> evidence of any other candidate who released his birth certificate!
>>> BWAHAHAAAAHHAAA!!!
Abderian laughter: Given to incessant or idiotic laughter; inclined to
foolish or incessant merriment; from Abdera, in Thrace, whose citizens
were proverbial as rustic simpletons who would laugh at anything or
anyone they didn't understand (making their town the Hellenic
equivalent of Gotham).
>>> Hint: Most of that $14 trillion in debt came from Republican
Interesing: I'll most certainly look into it.
"Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever
redeeming a fallen nation rather than leading a great one."
— Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal, 10/28/2010
“Tolerance is an admirable intellectual gift; but it is of little
worth in politics.
Politics is a war of causes; a joust of principles.
Government is too serious a matter to admit of meaningless
courtesies.”
— Woodrow Wilson
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can
only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves
money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority
always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the
public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses
over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age
of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These
nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage
to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from
courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to
selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to
apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."
— Alexander Tyler
"The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and
by parts."
— Edmund Burke, letter, April 3, 1777, to the Sheriffs of Bristol
"ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the
IRS, the costs of the Pentagon."
— Unknown
¹ S. Ann Soetoro
<http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-1,00.html>
² The people of the world are classified into four distinct racial
groups,
based on their physical characteristics:
Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid, and Australoid
<http://socyberty.com/ethnicity/the-races-of-mankind/#ixzz1BDrBrvsh>
Hence, "African" is not a "race"
Iarnrod
> On Jan 15, 7:55 pm, "Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
> <iarn...@yahoo.com>, Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult',
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2:11 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Train Wreck", aka Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com>,
> >> Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult', wrote:
>
> >>> On Jan 15, 12:01 am, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
> >>>> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
> >>>>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
> >>>>>> certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on
> >>>>>> US soil,
>
> >>>>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
> >>>>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
> >>>>> party could very well have released his or her birth certification, and
> >>>>> we would never know it.
>
> >> We notice that "Rails" simply ignored the above statement from another
> >> Obama supporter.
>
> > I did no such thing.
>
> Yes you did.
Nope. I fully replied and refuted, as I have done with you, of course.
You’re the king of snipping and ignoring, I am surprised you would
pretend to abdicate!
> > I confronted it and showed it to be wrong.
>
> Never happened.
It did of course. You were smoking crack at the time, I guess.
> > American history is well documented.
>
> Then show the documents which support your false and unfounded
> assertion that Obama "the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to
> release his birth certificate".
What? Again?
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available since no others have ever been released.
That was extremely easy. Let me know if you’d like it personally
shoved up your stupid KKKooker ass yet again, TinyJohnsn.
Only you Obama Derangement Syndrome sufferers, who cannot possibly
refute this proven-true statement, remain in denial.
> No reputable journalist has made such an outrageous, unsubstantiated
> claim; just you OAS (Obama Ass Suckers).
You Obama Derangement Syndrome victims are quite amusing to your many
betters, relying now as you seek to do on MSM!! BWAHAHAHAHAAA!
Historical proven FACT: NO other presidential candidate but Obama
released his official state-proven and verified birth certificate to
the general public to prove he is a natural born citizen.
Your abject failure to refute this stands as mute testimony to your
overriding racism and your hatred of America and her Constitution.
FACT.
> > Your continued appearance here to parade your ongoing failure to refute is duly noted.
>
> You have been refuted at every tirne, "Rails";
Really? You “think” so? I must have missed that link. Please post
again where you have refuted that Obama is the FIRST and ONLY
presidential candidate in our history to release his proven certified
birth certificate to the public to prove he is a natural born citizen.
This can only come in the form of someone else’s precedent to June
2008. I guess I missed that post of yours since you deny herein that
you even have such evidence.
Sux to be TinyJohnson!!
> especially way back
> when you argued with me when I made the statement that Obama is the
> legitimate POTUS.
I of course did no such thing nor are you capable of showing anywhere
that I did. This must be the effects of racism rotting your
rationality.
> You are so used to "knee-jerking" whenever anyone mentions "Obama" and
> "Birth" in the same sentence you fail to read the sentence completely
> and merely regurgitate your "Obama is the Annointed One" bullcrap.
What is it about you rightards that makes you deify the president? Is
it simply because he saved America from gross GOP malfeasance? Must
be.
> > Obama is the only presidential candidate in our history to release his
> > birth certificate to the public at large to confirm his constitutional eligibility.
>
> Yet another assertion unsupported by any physical evidence: typical
> Obama COLB Cultist Pavlovian reaction.
Proven FACT to which you have repeatedly failed to offer even the
first shred of refutation.
Hint: It is because you cannot.
> Say "Obama" and you get "COLB!"
Say “Obama” to a rightard and you get frothing foaming racist hatred,
which you clearly demonstrate.
> "Rails" probably has to have a waterproof keyboard to keep from
> shorting out its computer due to drooling whenever "Onbama" is
> mentioned.
Projection. It is you who must have a waterproof keyboard to keep from
shorting out yer computer due to all the forth and foam produced by
your documented case of ODS.
> > This is an irrefutable FACT that your continuing lack of refutation only
> > makes more certain.
>
> What's "certain" is that you continue to fail and refuse to provide
> ANY proof to support your constant false assertion that BHOJr is "the
> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth
> certificate".
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
There are no others.
Case is closed.
Your failure to refute in the form of any prior examples in history is
of course very telling.
> >> Reason? It does not support the claim of "Rails" that BHOJr is "the
> >> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
>
> > The claim has been proven beyond all doubt, TinyJohnsn.
>
> False.
It takes more than simple denial, TinyJohnsn, to overcome the massive
weight of proof I have given.
If only you could come up with just one more example in history, then
you can refute But in your frustration at realizing you have been
wrong, all you can do is froth and foam.
> >> While he (or rather his campaign staff) most certainly did, "Rails"
> >> cannot proves that BHOJr is the "ONLY" one "EVER" to do so.
>
> > I already did, Tiny Johnsn.
>
> Not here in Usenet, you haven't.
I did, of course, while you have failed to refute. All you have
offered is denial. That doesn’t rise to the moment, I’m afraid. You’ll
have to seek treatment for your Obama Derangement Syndrome.
> >>>> And _that_ is _exactly_ the point I've been trying to drive into the
> >>>> thick skull of "Rails" (Iarnród) here.
>
> >>> And you have been failing, dearie.
>
> >>> I proved my case. There are no other birth certificates available that
> >>> were released by any other candidates. QED.
>
> >> Prove it!
>
> > I already did.
>
> Never happened.
Happened.
> > Where is your refutation, nut job?
>
> > You are Cleopatra, Queen of Denial!! You gots NUTTIN’ kkkook.
>
> >>> You have been unable to refute this.
>
> >> I've refuted your false claim over and over again.
>
> > You have not provided one little shred of refutation at all, Tiny
> > Johnsn. You’ve only provided denial but, alas for you, no citation
> > to any other candidate in history to release his/her birth certificate.
> > How can that BE!! You “think” it’s done regularly...
>
> No I do not;
Yes you do.
> but that does _not_ mean it "NEVER" happened.
It did happen. Once and only once and here it is:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
BWAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!! SUCK on it, KKKook!!! PROOF that cannot be denied.
> > ...but yet there is no historical record whatsoever of this ever happening
> > before your current president.
>
> Still trying to prove a negative, without a single iota of evidence to
> back it up, we see.
All the evidence backs it up while your inability to refute it shouts
loudly to your stupidity.
> > Case is closed. I am right, you are wrong.
>
> >> you still cannot provide proof to support your claim that BJHOJr is "the
> >> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
>
> > **ahem**http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
>
> **ahem** Link still broken.
It is not of course. You likely need to upgrade from Netscape
Navigator 3.0
> But here's what you are trying to find:
>
> <http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
Not at all. I am sending you to this:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
I know more than you. All liberals know more than you because your
masters keep you in the dark and feed you shit, mushroom.
> Oh, and BTW: the redacted Certification Number is 151-1961-010641 and
> his obstetrician's name was Dr.Rodney T. West.
And…?
> > No others available.
>
> No actual investigation of all available written records of
> presidential candidates since 1789 conducted by "Rails, the Rude Train
> Wreck."
All others have of course been investigated and no others have done
what Obama did. FACT that you cannot refute.
> If you never look you will never find.
That describes you and all rightard racists to a “t.”
> > Case closed.
>
> In your dreams.
In reality, of course, a place you will never even have a chance to
visit as long as you are in the thrall of the conservatard movement.
> >>>> It has made the claim and has fought tooth and nail to make everyone
> >>>> believe it without _ever_ providing a single iota of proof to back it
> >>>> up.
>
> >>> I provided proof.
>
> >>>http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
> >>> No others available.
>
> >> "What a Maroon!"
> >> "Will ya get a load of this maroon?"
> >> --Bugs Bunny
>
> > Bugs is lookin’ squarely atcha, maroon!
>
> >> That's Obama's, "Rails"; we're discussing all the OTHER presidential
> >> candidates sine 1789 (since you stated that BHOJr is "the FIRST and
> >> ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate").
>
> > Yes, of course we are, and as I proved, no others are available.
>
> An assertion not supported by ANY documentable evidence; merely your
> unsupported false assertions, "Rails" (as usual).
Nope, fully supported by the historical records which shows no other
candidates released their birth certificates to the public to prove
constitutional eligibility. FACT that you cannot even attempt to
refute since no refutation of truth exists.
> > Only Obama’s. Why is that? Why, it’s because he’s the only one who did this.
>
> Still just an assertion unsupported by _any_ evidence, "Rails".
Nope, a historical FACT as I have shown that stands unassailed by any
of your puny acts of mere denial.
> >> You're too stupid to realize that just because you cannot find it on
> >> the web _does_NOT_ mean that it does not exist.
>
> > You’re too stupid to realize that this is not the basis of my claim.
>
> It's the EXACT basis for your claim!
It is not of course. That is YOUR statement of the basis for my claim
but as I have proven, you have yet to say anything true.
> > You’re too stupid to realize that no other presidential candidate in
> > history ever did what Obama did in releasing his birth certificate to
> > the public to prove his natural born citizenship.
>
> Still no evidence to support this assertion, "Rails."
No evidence to support your claim, you mean, TinyJohnsn.
And what is with the “rails” reference all the time? Are you supposed
to get a fuckjin’ medal for realizing what my screen name means?
Forget it.
> > Do you stab yourself in the face while trying to feed yourself?
<I guess the answer tot hat is “yes!”>
> >>> FACT you cannot refute.
>
> >> I "refute" that you have presented evidence that no other presidential
> >> candidate since 1789 has "EVER" presented a birth certificate.
>
> > No, you refuted no such thing. You merely denied it while I proved it
> > was true.
>
> The ONLY thing you have proved is that you think the entire world is
> so stupid as to actually believe that you have researched every
> available written record throughout the entire United States and found
> no record that no other of the presidential candidates since 1789 has
> "EVER' released , shown or displayed his birth certificate to ANYONE.
Yet it stands as proven FACT that you cannot refute.
BWAHAAAAAAHAAAA!!!
Duly noted that you cannot offer any refutation, only your continuing
race-based denial.
> >>>> It has backed itself into a corner...
>
> >>> I have put YOU in the corner, fuckwit. That's not even a decent try at
> >>> evasion by you!! <SNICKER>
>
> >>>> ...by trying to claim a negative as a positive; to-wit: by claiming BHOJr
> >>>> to be the "ONLY" means that there must also be the accompanying
> >>>> "never" from ALL presedential candidates since the first election in
> >>>> 1789. Care to hazard a guess as to just how many persons that might
> >>>> be? <g>
>
> >>> Yet not one single one of them ever released a birth certificate to
> >>> the public before the election to prove natural born citizenship until
> >>> Obama.
>
> >> Prove it!
>
> >http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
>
> As usual, "Rails" posts the same broken link to the image of the
> redacted "Certification of Live Birth"; rather than use the working
> one I provided:
The link of course is not broken. It works for all. You need something
newer than a 286 processor.
> <http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
That’s the same one. Why are you going through the trouble of
providing even more proof that Obama proved he is a natural born
citizen rather than searching for one shred that would allow you to
actually refute my claim that he’s the first and only one to do so?
Hint: We know why. It’s because you cannot since no refutation of
proven FACT is possible.
> Don't like that one? Well here's yet another:
>
> <http://fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg>
>
> Both of those are from Pro-Obama sources.
Actually no they are not. Snopes is not “pro-Obama.”
> > No others available.
>
> No evidence provided to support this.
All evidence supports this of course. Your continuing denial in the
face of total lack of refutation shouts this to the world.
> > Now if only Tiny Johnsn could manage to come up with any evidence that
> > any other candidate did this.
>
> I don't have to;
Correction: You are UNABLE to since, as I proved, it does not exist.
> as I am not claiming that any other presidential
> candidate did; just that you cannot prove that they didn't, "Rails."
Yet I have proven it already.
> YOU "painted yourself into the corneer" by claiming something that you
> cannot prove.
I did prove it. YOU painted YOURSELF into the “corneer” whatever that
is by claiming it wasn’t proven but failing to offer evidence that it
has not.
> >Too bad so sad for Tiny Johnsn that he cannot find one shred of evidence to back
> > up his claim that I haven’t proven my point.
>
> You have proven it for me time and time again by not posting proof to
> support your assertion that BJHOJr is "the FIRST and ONLY US
> presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
OOOOS for you!
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available.
Case is closed.
> You are trying your damnedest to apply "circular reasoning" here:
>
> "BHOJr is the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his
> birth certificate"
>
> "Since I say BJHOJr is the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to
> release his birth certificate, that PROVES that BJHOJr is the FIRST
> and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his birth certificate".
That is not of course anything remotely like what I am saying. It is
what YOU are saying. I have proven it by showing that there are no
others available. You can only refute this by doing one thing and one
thing only: Providing any shred of evidence that any other previous
candidate did so.
You can’t and you won’t.
> BJHOJr is the FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release his
> birth certificate because I say so."
Nope. Because it has never ever happened before in the history of the
American Republic until Obama’s precedent-setting disclosure.
Your inability to refute and substitution of incredulous denial is
DISMISSED as lacking in substance. Better luck next time., Never try
to take on a liberal in the “smarts” department, KKKooker. You ill
always LOSE.
> > When only one – ONLY ONE OTHER – would shut me up!!
>
> That's the very reason you won't look for evidence to support your
> assertion, "Rails": you're afraid you might actually find one!
I looked and there are none. YOU looked and there are none. We know
this because if there were you would be parading it around in a ticker-
tape shower down Broadway!!
But…
You can’t and you wont!
You will merely come back again and again with nothing but denial for
me to kick your stupid KKKooker ass. You are so PWNED!!
> > Yet little Tiny Johnsn cannot even manage one, not one!!
>
> No need;
No ABILITY!!
> as I am _not_ trying to prove there has been one released,
> displayed or shown; just that you cannot prove it never happened!
Yet I did.
> That's the corner YOU painted YOURSELF into; all by yourself.
You’re in the corner. I am outside laughing at you and your complete
lack of refutation.
Hint: Mere denial is not refutation.
> BTW: you _do_ realize that George W had to produce his Connecticut
> birth certificate to the U.S. Air Force when he joined the Air
> National Guard; don't you? (You didn't stipulate as to _when_ a
> "presidential candidate" had to have "released his birth certificate"
> <g>).
Prove that he did.
You made a totally unsupported assertion.
You made a mere assumption.
Plus you again are completely ignorant of the assertion I shoved up
your ass: RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC to PROVE CONSTITUTIONAL ELIGIBILITY
for POTUS.
Try to stop smoking crack when you reply, mmmm-kay, dearie?
> Moreover, Ronald Wilson Reagan's birth certificate is on display in
> the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library; in the "Early Years" gallery
> just to the left of the Dixon arch.
And it was generated AFTER his presidency in 1991, you incredible
FUCKWIT!!! BWAHAAAHAHAHA!!
You see, I HAVE done all the research.
LOOK at the fuckin DATE on the Reagan birth certificate copy, you
fucking MOE-RON rightard!
BWAHAHHAHAAAA!!
June 20, 1991!!
You are STUPIDER THAN SHIT!!
Your TASK is NOT to find presidential birth certificates, but any that
have been released BY THE CANDIDATE prior to the election TO THE
GENERAL PUBLIC to demonstrate natural born citizenship.
Hint: There is only one and here it is:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
BWAHAHAHAAHAAHHAAHAAAA!!! uhBWAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
> > Tiny is fuming and foaming in impotent rage, yet cannot come up with one
> > shred of refutation to accompany his blind denial of truth!
>
> >>> I have proven this and you are impotent in trying to disprove it.
>
> >> I've never claimed that they have; I've just challenged you to PROVE
> >> your claim that they DIDN'T.
>
> > I already did so, Cleopatra.
>
> Not yet.
At the start and always, of course.
> >> Thusfar, you've failed to convince ANYONE that they did not.
>
> > Wrong. I have kicked your stupid kkkooker ass. NO OTHER CANDIDATE
> > released a birth certificate, and this is a historical fact.
>
> The show us the "history", Iarnród.
Please post in the English language, TinyJohnsn. I no speaka da
Kookinese.
> Thusfar the only "history" is your false assertion that there
> _is_"history."
It is of course proven FACT that you have been impotently unable to
refute.
QED.
> >>>> "Rails" is too stupid to admit that it cannot prove, beyond a reasonable
> >>>> doubt, that no single candidate, no matter how obscure, has never
> >>>> presented, displayed or released a copy of his birth certificate.
>
> >>> Done and done.
>
> >> Never happened, "Rails."
>
> > Happens in every single reply I make to your stupid kkkooker ass,
> > Tiny.
>
> Is "kkkoker" your backhanded way of claiming that BJOJr is "black"?
Huh? Please explain.
He *is* black, nutjob. You’re not one of them “Luos is Arabs” KKKooks,
is ya? Oh and BTW, it’s KKKoooker, not KKKoker. Try not to be so
spastic in your frothing impotent rage, mmmm-kay?
> We're already shot that claim down with his oen "Certification of Live
> Birth":
>
> <http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg>
>
> Care to show us where it states his race as "Black", oh Rude One?
>
> It is clearly proof that BHOJr is "Caucasian/African": not "Black."
BWAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAA!!!! More denial from a proven demonstrated
racist!!
> And U.S. Department of Health LAW requires that the child's race is
> determined by the MOTHER's race; which is "Caucasian" (aka:"White").
Again with not citation to your mythical “law!”
You’re really batting 0.000 here,TinyJohnsn.
> Research it for yourself: I've posted a link before.
No you didn’t.
Prove Obama is not black.
BWAHAHAAAHAAHAAAA!!!
> And since you are such an "excellent" researcher .... <snicker>
Well, that is the first true thing you’ve said.
> >> Back up your claim by "reposting" it here (and just reposting yet
> >> another link to BHOJr's "COLB" is not proof).
>
> >http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama
>
> > No others available.
>
> > QED.
>
> > Case closed.
>
> > Now YOU try to post evidence that any other candidate DID do so.
>
> Don't have to,
Aren’t ABLE to since what I have claimed is the proven FACT.
> Iarnród; as I am not claiming that they did; just that
> you CANNOT prove that they DIDN'T!
I already did.
> > <tee hee>
>
> > <<crickets chirping>>
>
> That's the sound of Iarnród as it wonders just how to prove the
> negative it asserts here.
Here’s how:
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available.
You cannot refute because you cannot post a link to any others. QED.
> > Sux to be TinyJohnsn!!!
<<and still does!!>>
> >>>> It never learns and will continue to harp the Obama COLB Cult line
> >>>> right up until BHOJr gets blown out of the water in the 2012 General
> >>>> Election.
>
> >>> He will of course be re-elected by an even bigger landslide than 2008.
>
> >> "When hell freezes over."
>
> > America is not about to put the same criminals in charge who caused
> > this mess.
>
> >>>> "Sunday, January 20, 2013: The End of an Error"
>
> >>> Saving America was an error?
>
> >> "Record $14 trillion-plus debt weighs on Congress"
>
> > Caused by GOP economic policies, of course, not in dispute.
>
> Obama has been in charge for twenty-four months now, Iarnród: all the
> policies driving us to bankruptcy are his.
Wrong. Policies driving us to bankruptcy are GOP platform since
Reagan. Obama pulled us away from the brink of Great Republican
Depression II. FACT.
> >> By Tom Raum, Associated Press
>
> >> WASHINGTON – The United States just passed a dubious milestone:
> >> Government debt surged to an all-time high, topping $14 trillion
Nearly all of it on the Republicans’ watch!!
You must be so proud to trumpet your hatred of America.
> >> <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110115/ap_on_re_us/us_debt_wars>
>
> >> That's all on Obama's watch, "Rails."
>
> > Really? Got a link to your claim that Obama presided over America
> > mounting $14 trillion in debt?
>
> > <snicker>
>
> Are you claiming that the lamestream media, in this case Tom Raum of
> the Associated Press, is lying to us?
You don’t know how to read, I suppose. But Raum did not say that Obama
is responsible for $14 trillion in debt. Nearly all of it came under
Republican administrations. That Obama is in office when it surpasses
$14 trillion does not make Obama responsible for the first $11
trillion.
> > Now THAT will be more difficult that your trying to come up with
> > evidence of any other candidate who released his birth certificate!
> > BWAHAHAAAAHHAAA!!!
>
> > Hint: Most of that $14 trillion in debt came from Republican
> > administrations.
>
> > Please provide a link to evidence for your claim that Obama came into
> > office with $0 in national debt.
>
> Didn't say that; now did I?
Yes, you did. You claimed Obama is responsible for $14 trillion in
national debt, ignoring that when he came into office, Republicans
already had run it up to $11.3 trillion.
> However, here's the proof of Obama "spendthriftiness:
>
> <http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/zFacts-Reagan-Bush-National-Debt.gif>
>
> You will note that the national debt was $3.8T when George W handed
> the reins over to BHOJr.
BWAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID!! You don’t even know
how to READ!! Un-fuckin-believable!
The national debt INCREASED by $3.8 trillion under AWOL. That wasn’t
the TOTAL debt, it was what he added to what Reagan and Poppy had
mounted up!!
Holy SHIT, KKKooker denial in full bloom!
> Now it's $14T+; all under a Democrat administration woth a Democrat
> House (where spending bill must originate per the U.S. Constitution)
> and a Democrat Senate.
All necessary of course to combat the Republican Recession that
threatened to destroy this nation!
> "That's the fact, Jack!" --Bill Murray
And the FACTS favor Democrats, who saved the nation once again from
GOP economic disaster!
> >>> You are a traitor.
>
> >> I am a PATRIOT, "Rails."
>
> > You are not a patriot, you have already expressed your deep hatred for
> > America and her president. You are a traitor for sure. Wishing
> > another incompetent GOP administration into office is treason. It
> > would finish off the destruction of the American economy that is at
> > the heart of the Republican platform.
>
> Care to supply a quote from _any_ Republican Party Platform from _any_
> year, backing up that false assertion, "Rails"?
Reaganomics.
> Thought not:
Ooops. You didn’t think, apparently!
> BTW: we ALL noticed that you "snipped" my blowing your lying racist
> ass out of the water on your "Obama is black" assertion.
You did no such thing, of course, since your racism is in full flower
here.
> "Run Away!" –Iarnród
BWAHAHAHHAAA!! Tiny, I am here to kick your stupid kkkooker ass day in
and day out. Never fear. I enjoy it. And you make it so easy too by
being such a stupid liar!
Iarnrod
And no other examples exist. Only Obama.
> Some
> candidate from some minor party could very well have released his or
> her birth certification, and we would never know it.
We would know it. that's what "released to the public" means.
Iarnrod
When his campaign issued the digital image of it, it had been advised
by privacy experts to redact the number to prevent any potential fraud
by others trying to use it to generate false IDs. This later turned
out not to be a substantial concern and it was released to others with
the number visible.
> and a large warning at the bottom of
> the image: "Any Alterations Invalidate This Certificate".
The certificate was not altered.
Thank you for correcting him and me on this point.
JohnJohnsn
>
>>> On Jan 15, 10:13 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> On Jan 15, 5:55 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> On Jan 15, 2:11 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult', wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
>>>>>>>> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
>>>>>>>>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release hisbirth
>>>>>>>>>> US soil,
>
>>>>>>>>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
>>>>>>>>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
>>>>>>>>> we would never know it.
>
>>>>>> Obama supporter.
>
>>>>> I did no such thing. I confronted it and showed it to be wrong.
>
>>>> If you replied to me with respect to my comment, I missed it.
>
>>>> Here is what is purported to be John McCain's birth certificate:
>
>>> It remains uncertain whether this is genuine, but don't forget the
>>> question here. Obama is the first and only presidential candidate to
>>> release his birth certificate to the public to prove he is a natural
>>> born citizen.
>
>> As I mentioned earlier, this would be hard to prove, as there are
>> currently over 50 political parties in these Unites States.
>
> And no other examples exist. Only Obama.
Only if one chooses to ignore the one R.C. posted above, as well as
the copy of Ronald Wilson Reagan's birth certificate on display in the
Ronald Reagan Presidential Library; in the "Early Years" gallery just
to the left of the Dixon arch, as two examples.
>> Some candidate from some minor party could very well have released his or
>> her birth certification, and we would never know it.
>
> We would know it. that's what "released to the public" means.
Here Iarnród the Simpleton tries to limit "public" to only the ones it
recognizes.
Meanwhile - public: a group of people who, in facing a similar
problem,
recognize it and organize themselves to
address it
--John Dewey <http://en.wikipedia.org/
wiki/John_Dewey>
Face it, R.C.; to the Obama COLB Cult, _any_ evidence that disagrees
with their claim that "Obama is the first and only presidential
candidate to release his birth certificate to the public" will be
summarily dismissed and the presenter challenged as a "KKKooker
Birther."
BTW: the McCain birth certificate <http://
dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/mccain%20birth.html> is just as
believable as the Obama COLB <http://fightthesmears.com/images/
28.jpg>, seeing as it is a reproduction of the _actual_, _original_
"Certificado de Nacimiento Vivo" (Certificate of Live Birth), while
the Obama COLB is a computer-generated Certification attesting to the
fact that Obama's _original_ birth certificate is on file for record
with the Vital Records Section of the Hawai'i Department of Health.
Both are equally valid for pirposes of proof of live birth for the
therein-named individual.
Finally, the Democrats (which obviously includes `Iarnród the
Simpleton') have no room to talk, as _they_ tried this same "not a
natural born citizen" ploy on Republicans Chester A. Arthur, Charles
Evans Hughes, George Romney, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker _and_
John McCain.
"What goes around comes around." (But _still_ no justification for the
challenge to Obama's legitimacy as POTUS)
ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι
r_c_...@hushmail.com
>
> >>> It remains uncertain whether this is genuine, but don't forget the
> >>> question here. Obama is the first and only presidential candidate to
> >>> release his birth certificate to the public to prove he is a natural
> >>> born citizen.
>
> >> As I mentioned earlier, this would be hard to prove, as there are
> >> currently over 50 political parties in these Unites States.
>
> > And no other examples exist. Only Obama.
>
> Only if one chooses to ignore the one R.C. posted above, as well as
> the copy of Ronald Wilson Reagan's birth certificate on display in the
> Ronald Reagan Presidential Library; in the "Early Years" gallery just
> to the left of the Dixon arch, as two examples.
Well, Mr. Reagan's birth certificate on display in his Library isn't a
copy released as a candidate, which seems to violate the rules. Which
isn't to say that - let's take the 1980 election - none of the five
(six?) Republican candidates, two Democratic candidates, major third
party (John Anderson; the name of his party escapes me at the moment),
or the herd of minor party candidates released their birth
certificates. Which is my point: there have been hundreds of
political parties since 1789, many of which ran multiple candidates
(in the primaries, of course), and I can bet with certainty that no
one has researched them all to verify that none ever released their
birth certificates before the elections. Who has that kind of time?
As far as I know, Ms. Iarnród is correct about Mr. Obama, but her
assertion is more like a hypothesis rather than a theory, using
scientific terminology. It would be difficult to prove, and too damn
much work to disprove.
Iarnrod
> On Jan 16, 1:01 pm, "Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
> <iarn...@yahoo.com>, Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult',
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 8:54 am, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 15, 9:55 pm, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jan 15, 10:13 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
>
> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2:11 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton' <iarn...@yahoo.com>,
> >>>>>> Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult', wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> On Jan 15, 12:01 am, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 11:11 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com"
> >>>>>>>> <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 13, 5:21 am, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Conclusively so. Since Obama made history by being the
> >>>>>>>>>> FIRST and ONLY US presidential candidate to release hisbirth
> >>>>>>>>>> certificate and PROVE BEYOND DOUBT that he was born on
> >>>>>>>>>> US soil,
>
> >>>>>>>>> This would be hard to prove, as there are currently over 50 political
> >>>>>>>>> parties in these Unites States. Some candidate from some minor
> >>>>>>>>> party could very well have released his or her birth certification, and
> >>>>>>>>> we would never know it.
>
> >>>>>> We notice that "Rails" simply ignored the above statement from another
> >>>>>> Obama supporter.
>
> >>>>> I did no such thing. I confronted it and showed it to be wrong.
>
> >>>> If you replied to me with respect to my comment, I missed it.
>
> >>>> Here is what is purported to be John McCain's birth certificate:
>
> >>> It remains uncertain whether this is genuine, but don't forget the
> >>> question here. Obama is the first and only presidential candidate to
> >>> release his birth certificate to the public to prove he is a natural
> >>> born citizen.
>
> >> As I mentioned earlier, this would be hard to prove, as there are
> >> currently over 50 political parties in these Unites States.
>
> > And no other examples exist. Only Obama.
>
> Only if one chooses to ignore the one R.C. posted above
Hey KKKOOK, Panama Jack McCain REFUSED to release his birth
certificate. You know, that’s the kind of thing you falsely accuse
OBAMA of doing, yet Obama released his while McCain REFUSED. In any
case, McCain’s Panamanian birth certificate IS INCAPABLE of proving
his natural born citizenship. Being born in Panama does not make you
eligible to be president, fuckwit. Try to keep up.dd not post one
above, KKKook.
> as well as
> the copy of Ronald Wilson Reagan's birth certificate on display in the
> Ronald Reagan Presidential Library; in the "Early Years" gallery just
> to the left of the Dixon arch, as two examples.
BWAHAHAHHAAAAAA!!! Apparently you cannot READ. I replied to that.
So tell us, TinyJohnsn, why you seem to “think” that Ronald Reagan ran
for president in 1991?
Reagan’s birth certificate on display in his library is CLEARLY
STAMPED as having been produced in JUNE 1991!!
You amazingly stupid shit-for-brains… Reagan ran for president in
1980. By 1991 he didn’t even know his fuckin’ name, as if he knew
anything when he was in office starting the destruction of the US
middle class.
Hint for the rightarded: 1991 comes AFTER 1980. Reagan DID NOT RELEASE
his birth certificate when he was running for office; the copy in the
library IS CLEARLY STAMPED with the June 1991 date.
YOU LOSE AGAIN.
> >> Some candidate from some minor party could very well have released his or
> >> her birth certification, and we would never know it.
>
> > We would know it. that's what "released to the public" means.
>
> Here Iarnród the Simpleton tries to limit "public" to only the ones it
> recognizes.
Here TonyJohnsn tries to run away from his abject FAILURE to refute my
proven claim.
Hint: If something is released to the public, then by very definition
it would be known to the public.
Stop abusing drugs.
> Face it, R.C.; to the Obama COLB Cult, _any_ evidence that disagrees
> with their claim that "Obama is the first and only presidential
> candidate to release his birth certificate to the public" will be
> summarily dismissed and the presenter challenged as a "KKKooker
> Birther."
You HAVE no evidence that disagrees with my claim. You admit it. You
even state you’re not interested in even trying to refute my proven
claim. How humiliating life must be for you!
> BTW: the McCain birth certificate <http://
> dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/mccain%20birth.html> is just as
> believable as the Obama COLB <http://fightthesmears.com/images/
> 28.jpg>, seeing as it is a reproduction of the _actual_, _original_
> "Certificado de Nacimiento Vivo" (Certificate of Live Birth),
HEY SHITHEAD, my claim is NOT that one cannot find other candidates’
birth certificates; it’s that Obama is the FIRST and ONLY one to
RELEASE HIS TO THE PUBLIC. It would help you greatly if you could
actually understand what is being discussed hewer, dearie.
It is a fully documented historical FACT that Panama Jack McCain
REFUSED to release his. What you link to is a leaked, and possibly
fraudulent, document NOT RELEASED BY MCCAIN. In addition, a Panamanian
birth certificate is LEGALLY INCAPABLE of proving US natural born
citizenship. Hint: Panama is not US soil.
> while
> the Obama COLB is a computer-generated Certification attesting to the
> fact that Obama's _original_ birth certificate is on file for record
> with the Vital Records Section of the Hawai'i Department of Health.
> Both are equally valid for pirposes of proof of live birth for the
> therein-named individual.
Of course, which makes Obama the FIRST and ONLY presidential candidate
in our history to fully document his eligibility in this manner.
Iarnrod
wrote:
> On Jan 16, 1:10 pm, JohnJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 1:01 pm, "Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
> > <iarn...@yahoo.com>, Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult',
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 16, 8:54 am, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> On Jan 15, 9:55 pm, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> On Jan 15, 10:13 pm, "r_c_br...@hushmail.com" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
>
It also is dated June 1991, well after Reagan left office as a
blithering idiot, which is how he served in office. This also makes it
completely irrelevant since obviously he did not release it tot he
public in 1980 when he ran.
> Which
> isn't to say that - let's take the 1980 election - none of the five
> (six?) Republican candidates, two Democratic candidates, major third
> party (John Anderson; the name of his party escapes me at the moment),
> or the herd of minor party candidates released their birth
> certificates.
None of them did.
> Which is my point: there have been hundreds of
> political parties since 1789, many of which ran multiple candidates
> (in the primaries, of course), and I can bet with certainty that no
> one has researched them all to verify that none ever released their
> birth certificates before the elections. Who has that kind of time?
I do.
JohnJohnsn
>
> On Jan 16, 1:10 pm, JohnJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 1:01 pm, "Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
>> <iarn...@yahoo.com>, Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult',
>> wrote:
>
>
>>>> On Jan 15, 9:55 pm, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>> On Jan 15, 5:55 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2:11 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
You do realize, don't you, that an elected president _was_ a
"candidate" for the office? <g>
Another thing here: Iarnród has changed "the rules" so many times here
I don't think even _it_ remembers what the original "rules" were.
And remember: the Democrats started this _WAY_ back when _they_ tried
this same "not a natural born citizen" ploy on Republicans Chester A.
Arthur, Charles
Evans Hughes, George Romney, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker _and_
John McCain.
"What goes around comes around."
> Which isn't to say that - let's take the 1980 election - none of the five
> (six?) Republican candidates, two Democratic candidates, major third
> party (John Anderson; the name of his party escapes me at the moment),
> or the herd of minor party candidates released their birth certificates.
Of course, that was before the Internet (originating as "ARPANet") was
widespread and predates the "Information Superhighway."
> Which is my point: there have been hundreds of political parties since
> 1789, many of which ran multiple candidates (in the primaries, of course),
> and I can bet with certainty that no one has researched them all to verify
> that none ever released their birth certificates before the elections.
> Who has that kind of time?
>
> As far as I know, Ms. Iarnród is correct about Mr. Obama, but her
> assertion is more like a hypothesis rather than a theory, using
> scientific terminology. It would be difficult to prove, and too damn
> much work to disprove.
And that is _exactly_ what the Obama COLB Cultists, like Iarnród here,
are counting on with their campaign of `Obama is the FIRST and ONLY'
propaganda.
While it _may_ be true, the constant assertion that we _must_ accept
it to be true, merely because Iarnród says so, is what I "buck up"
against.
Hence, my "prove it or drop it" attitude.
Iarnród will not prove it and will not drop it, as it goes against its
agenda (I use the descriptive "it" because we have no evidence that
Iarnród is either male _or_ female, as most all the liberal socialist
gun ban proponents go out of their way to hide their _true_
identities).
>>>> Some candidate from some minor party could very well have released
>>>> his or her birth certification, and we would never know it.
>
>>> We would know it. that's what "released to the public" means.
>
>> Here Iarnród the Simpleton tries to limit "public" to only the ones it
>> recognizes.
>
>> Meanwhile - public: a group of people who, in facing a similar problem,
>> recognize it and organize themselves to address it
>> --John Dewey <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey>
>
>> Face it, R.C.; to the Obama COLB Cult, _any_ evidence that
>> disagrees with their claim that "Obama is the first and only
>> presidential candidate to release his birth certificate to the public"
>> will be summarily dismissed and the presenter challenged as a
>> "KKKooker Birther."
>
>> BTW: the McCain birth certificate
>> <http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/mccain%20birth.html>
>> is just as believable as the Obama COLB
>> <http://fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg>,
>> seeing as it is a reproduction of the _actual_, _original_
>> "Certificado de Nacimiento Vivo" (Certificate of Live Birth), while
>> the Obama COLB is a computer-generated Certification attesting to
>> the fact that Obama's _original_ birth certificate is on file for record
>> with the Vital Records Section of the Hawai'i Department of Health.
>> Both are equally valid for pirposes of proof of live birth for the
>> therein-named individual.
>
>> Finally, the Democrats (which obviously includes `Iarnród the
>> Simpleton') have no room to talk, as _they_ tried this same "not a
>> natural born citizen" ploy on Republicans Chester A. Arthur, Charles
>> Evans Hughes, George Romney, Barry Goldwater, Lowell Weicker _and_
>> John McCain.
>
>> "What goes around comes around." (But _still_ no justification for the
>> challenge to Obama's legitimacy as POTUS)
>
>> ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι
>
>> "Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever
>> redeeming a fallen nation rather than leading a great one."
>> — Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal, 10/28/2010-
r_c_...@hushmail.com
That is what I was referring to in my previous sentence.
>
> > Which
> > isn't to say that - let's take the 1980 election - none of the five
> > (six?) Republican candidates, two Democratic candidates, major third
> > party (John Anderson; the name of his party escapes me at the moment),
> > or the herd of minor party candidates released their birth
> > certificates.
>
> None of them did.
>
> > Which is my point: there have been hundreds of
> > political parties since 1789, many of which ran multiple candidates
> > (in the primaries, of course), and I can bet with certainty that no
> > one has researched them all to verify that none ever released their
> > birth certificates before the elections. Who has that kind of time?
>
> I do.
Really? You must be retired or independently wealthy or both.
Whichever it may be, congratulations!
Did you really investigate all of the candidates from all of the
parties for all of the Presidential elections since 1789? That is an
amazing feat. You should publish your results. I'm serious; just
having all of those candidate names and associated political parties -
never mind the birth certificate business - in one place would be of
significant historical importance.
Gray Ghost
2b61-47f1-a06...@r40g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
Well played, sir!
JohnJohnsn
>
> On Jan 16, 9:20 pm, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 16, 3:21 pm, R.C. Brown" <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> On Jan 16, 1:10 pm, JohnJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>> On Jan 16, 1:01 pm, "Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
>>>> <iarn...@yahoo.com>, Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult',
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 5:55 pm,Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2:11 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 1:48 pm, Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 12:01 am, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Ad hominem attacks on Republican presidents: a liberal's stock in
trade.
>> This also makes it completely irrelevant since obviously he did not
>> release it tot he public in 1980 when he ran.
BUT; it _was_ "released to the public", regardless of the timeline now
desired by Iarnród.
> That is what I was referring to in my previous sentence.
One thing here, "Rails" (aka Iarnród) has "moved the goalposts" so
often it's difficult to remember the original "rules".
>>> Which isn't to say that - let's take the 1980 election - none of the five
>>> (six?) Republican candidates, two Democratic candidates, major third
>>> party (John Anderson; the name of his party escapes me at the moment),
>>> or the herd of minor party candidates released their birth certificates.
>
>> None of them did.
Once again, assertion without _any_ corroborating _evidence_.
>>> Which is my point: there have been hundreds of political parties since
>>> 1789, many of which ran multiple candidates (in the primaries, of course),
>>> and I can bet with certainty that no one has researched them all to verify
>>> that none ever released their birth certificates before the elections.
>>> Who has that kind of time?
>
>> I do.
>
> Really? You must be retired or independently wealthy or both.
> Whichever it may be, congratulations!
>
> Did you really investigate all of the candidates from all of the
> parties for all of the Presidential elections since 1789? That is an
> amazing feat. You should publish your results. I'm serious; just
> having all of those candidate names and associated political parties -
> never mind the birth certificate business - in one place would be of
> significant historical importance.
Check! And MATE!
Come on, "Rails", tell us all about these presidential candidates from
1789: John Adams, James Armstrong, George Clinton, John Hancock,
Robert H. Harrison, Samuel Huntington, Benjamin Lincoln, John Milton,
John Rutledge, Edward Telfair, and George Washington
Give us their places of birth, birthdates, times of birth, fathers'
names, mothers' names; you know, all those things present on BHOJr's
"COLB."
Then jump to the 1796 presidential election and fill us in on these
candidates: Samuel Adams, Aaron Burr, Oliver Ellsworth, John Henry,
James Iredell, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Johnston, Charles
Cotesworth Pinckney, and Thomas Pinckney.
Now, don't leave _any_ out; as a "serious researcher" you _must_ have
found _all_ their information!
Don't worry; it gets easier the later you go, as there are fewer
national candidates.
Uh oh: I forgot about all the `obscure' parties included in R.C.'s "50
political parties in these Unites States."
Well, if you start now, you _might_ have traversed the entire United
States and completed your reasearch just in time to see the next
Republican president sworn into office on Sunday, January 20th, 2013.
<g>
Iarnrod
> On Jan 16, 4:21 pm, R.C. Brown <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 16, 1:10 pm, JohnJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 16, 1:01 pm, "Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
> >> <iarn...@yahoo.com>, Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult',
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jan 16, 8:54 am, R.C. Brown <r_c_br...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Jan 15, 9:55 pm, Iarnród <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Jan 15, 10:13 pm, R.C. Brown <r_c_br...@hushmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
>
Holy shit but you're dumb, aren't you! <tee hee>
Are you claiming time travel here?
In 1991, when the Reagan birth certificate now on display at the
Reagan library, was produced, the amnesiac moron was already long out
of office and his damage done. This document could not have been
released to the public in 1980 when he was a candidate.
The parameters here include that it must be released to the general
public while a candidate to document birth on US soil. ONLY OBAMA did
this. Reagan's 1991 birth certificate is not possible to do this.
Get off drugs and stop letting me kick your stupid kkkooker ass so
easily please. I need more of a challenge if you nutbags are to keep
up my interest.
> Another thing here: Iarnród has changed "the rules" so many times here
> I don't think even _it_ remembers what the original "rules" were.
Sorry, KKKook, I have changed nothing. I have been the only consistent
one here: Obama is the FIRST and ONLY presidential candidate in US
history to release to the public his birth certificate to prove he was
born on US soil. You cannot refute this. Nor can your weaseling about
a Reagan birth certificate produced ELEVEN YEARS AFTER he ran possibly
stand even the lightest scrutiny.
You're a loser. Get used to it.
> > As far as I know, Ms. Iarnród is correct about Mr. Obama, but her
> > assertion is more like a hypothesis rather than a theory, using
> > scientific terminology. It would be difficult to prove, and too damn
> > much work to disprove.
>
> And that is _exactly_ what the Obama COLB Cultists, like Iarnród here,
> are counting on with their campaign of `Obama is the FIRST and ONLY'
> propaganda.
He is. QED. No other candidate in history has done this. You cannot
refute it.
> While it _may_ be true, the constant assertion that we _must_ accept
> it to be true, merely because Iarnród says so, is what I "buck up"
> against.
You "buck up" against truth because you're an America hating racist.
> Hence, my "prove it or drop it" attitude.
I proved it. That's what eats at ya, that you know there's no other
example of a candidate doing what Obama did. That's why your racism
compels you to argue your fruitless impotent rage with me. That's why
I enjoy kicking your stupid racist ass.
> Iarnród will not prove it and will not drop it,
I proved it.
> as it goes against its
> agenda (I use the descriptive "it" because we have no evidence that
> Iarnród is either male _or_ female, as most all the liberal socialist
> gun ban proponents go out of their way to hide their _true_
> identities).
You say "it" because that's what mouth-breather racist rightards do to
de-humanize their many betters.
I win. Again.
Iarnrod
You apparently are such a racist lunatic that you don't know what an
ad hominem attack is, you frothing kkkooker.
Hint: Personal attacks are the stock in trade of REPUBLITARDS and
conservaloons on their intellectual betters on the left. FACT. Google
Lee Atwater.
> >> This also makes it completely irrelevant since obviously he did not
> >> release it tot he public in 1980 when he ran.
>
> BUT; it _was_ "released to the public", regardless of the timeline now
> desired by Iarnród.
"Now" desired? BWAHAHAHAHAA!! Hey TinyJohnsn, look up "as a
candidate!" You fuckin' loon, a 1991 birth certificate could not have
been used by Reagan to release to the public in 198 when he ran. You
have the stink of desperation all over you.
The claim is NOT that no president's birth certificate has EVER been
released, but that Obama is the FIRST and ONLY presidential candidate
in history to release it to the general public to prove he was born on
US soil. Reagan's 1991 birth certificate does not even BEGIN to
fulfill a single one of these parameters.
Stop using drugs. You're being humiliated here.
> > That is what I was referring to in my previous sentence.
>
> One thing here, "Rails" (aka Iarnród) has "moved the goalposts" so
> often it's difficult to remember the original "rules".
Hey liar,the goal posts are right where I planted them in my very
first post. You are the one trying to move them so that somehow
Reagan's 1991 birth certificate can comply with being released in
1980. This is the lying tactic of every rightard. QED.
> >>> Which isn't to say that - let's take the 1980 election - none of the five
> >>> (six?) Republican candidates, two Democratic candidates, major third
> >>> party (John Anderson; the name of his party escapes me at the moment),
> >>> or the herd of minor party candidates released their birth certificates.
>
> >> None of them did.
>
> Once again, assertion without _any_ corroborating _evidence_.
http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg
No others available.
QED.
> >>> Which is my point: there have been hundreds of political parties since
> >>> 1789, many of which ran multiple candidates (in the primaries, of course),
> >>> and I can bet with certainty that no one has researched them all to verify
> >>> that none ever released their birth certificates before the elections.
> >>> Who has that kind of time?
>
> >> I do.
>
> > Really? You must be retired or independently wealthy or both.
> > Whichever it may be, congratulations!
>
> > Did you really investigate all of the candidates from all of the
> > parties for all of the Presidential elections since 1789? That is an
> > amazing feat. You should publish your results. I'm serious; just
> > having all of those candidate names and associated political parties -
> > never mind the birth certificate business - in one place would be of
> > significant historical importance.
>
> Check! And MATE!
On you of course. All have been checked and no others ever released a
birth certificate as a candidate to prove birth on US soil. QED. Only
Obama, who raised the bar for all future candidates!
> Come on, "Rails", tell us all about these presidential candidates from
> 1789: John Adams, James Armstrong, George Clinton, John Hancock,
> Robert H. Harrison, Samuel Huntington, Benjamin Lincoln, John Milton,
> John Rutledge, Edward Telfair, and George Washington
Nope, no birth certificates available for any of them. QED. BTW, shit-
for-brains, Washington, Adams, Hancock, Clinton, Rutledge, in fact ALL
of the people who were born before 1787 never needed to be natural
born citizens. READ YOUR CONSTITUTION THAT YOU HATE SO MUCH,
TinyJohnsn,
> Give us their places of birth, birthdates, times of birth, fathers'
> names, mothers' names; you know, all those things present on BHOJr's
> "COLB."
Huh? Most of them never released a birth certificate at all -- most
never had one, That's the point. For most, their BC's were NEVER made
public so you wouldn't know any of that. Have you gone off the deep
end here from my severe ass-kickings. Tiny?
> Then jump to the 1796 presidential election and fill us in on these
> candidates: Samuel Adams, Aaron Burr, Oliver Ellsworth, John Henry,
> James Iredell, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Johnston, Charles
> Cotesworth Pinckney, and Thomas Pinckney.
Nope, no birth certificates available for them either. Most had none.
And again, because they were born before the Constitution was adopted,
they could have been born on the moon of Martian aliens and still be
eligible.
> Now, don't leave _any_ out; as a "serious researcher" you _must_ have
> found _all_ their information!
Ummm. the point was that NONE of their information is available.
That's what the total lack of having released a birth certificate as a
candidate means, fuckwit. Please do us all a favor and try to keep up
with which side of the argument you're on! <chortle>
> Don't worry; it gets easier the later you go, as there are fewer
> national candidates.
None of whom ever released a birth certificate as a candidate to prove
natural born citizenship. The FACT that you haev started to actually
research in a futile effort to refute me shows you should know this by
now!! Howzit feel to come to the realization that I was right all
along, fuzznuts?
> Uh oh: I forgot about all the `obscure' parties included in R.C.'s "50
> political parties in these Unites States."
>
> Well, if you start now, you _might_ have traversed the entire United
> States and completed your reasearch just in time to see the next
> Republican president sworn into office on Sunday, January 20th, 2013.
> <g>
Won't happen. With nutters like you on the other side, Obama is headed
for a victory even larger than his 2008 landslide. Then in 2017,
Hillary can start her administration!
JohnJohnsn
> The claim is NOT that no president's birth certificate has EVER been
> released, but that Obama is the FIRST and ONLY presidential candidate
> in history to release it to the general public to prove he was born on US soil.
>
>> often it's difficult to remember the original "rules".
>
> Hey liar,the goal posts are right where I planted them in my very first post.
False!
"In fact, I can't think of ANY OTHER elected president who has EVER
made his birth certificate public like Obama has. he has done MORE
than any other. "
iar...@yahoo.com
Thursday, 28 Apr 2009 08:00:43 -0700 (PDT),
"Obama, of all presidents, is the only one ever in history to document
that he is eligible. Where was Bush's birth certificate? Clinton's?
Nowhere. Only Obama released his birth certificate. "
--iar...@yahoo.com
Sun, 12 Dec 2010 13:17:04 -0800 (PST)
"Case closed. Obama is the FIRST and ONLY president in history to
release his birth certificate."
--iar...@yahoo.com
Wed, 22 Dec 2010 05:35:20 -0800 (PST)
"Obama is the FIRST and ONLY president in our history to prove he is a
natural born citizen."
--iar...@yahoo.com
Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:20:12 -0800 (PST)
I didn't have to go back any further to prove you to be the liar you
truly are, "Rails."
And as your cohort, Lee Douglas "The Lone Weasel", so often posts:
"Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"
(False in one thing, false in all)
Oh, BTW:
"Hawaii settled it for all time and under the Constitution you are
required to STFU and accept it."
"The state records speak for themselves and the Constitution requires
that you STFU and accept it."
"The Constitution requires that you accept it and STFU."
--iar...@yahoo.com
Wed, 22 Dec 2010 05:24:57 -0800 (PST)
Still haven't found anywhere in the Unites States Constatution that
states "When Iarnród the Simpleton' claims something to be, `STFU and
accept it'."
ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι
Iarnród ignored.
"Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever
redeeming a fallen nation rather than leading a great one."
— Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal, 10/28/2010
"Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin
to clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because
Liberals are so stupid it is easy work."
-- Steven M. Barry
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
— Ronald Wilson Reagan
"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then
are shocked and offended to discover that there _are_ other views."
— William F. Buckley, Jr.
"A Nation of Sheep will beget a Government of Wolves."
— Edward R. Murrow
Iarnrod
> On Jan 17, 6:24 pm, "Train Wreck", aka `Iarnród the Simpleton'
> <iarn...@yahoo.com>, Head Cheerleader of the `Obama COLB Cult',
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 12:44 pm, TinyJohnsn <TopCop1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <Snip>
> > The claim is NOT that no president's birth certificate has EVER been
> > released, but that Obama is the FIRST and ONLY presidential candidate
> > in history to release it to the general public to prove he was born on US soil.
>
> >> One thing here, "Rails" (aka Iarnród) has "moved the goalposts" so
> >> often it's difficult to remember the original "rules".
>
>
> False!
True of course. You are the one desperately seeking to move the goal
posts – AND AFTER I ALREADY WON THE GAME and the stadium lights have
been turned off!! BWAHAAAHAHAHAA!!
TinyJohnsn here “thinks” that the moron Reagan’s birth certificate
released in **1991** somehow means Reagan released it himself eleven
years earlier!!
TinyJohnsn is a TIME TRAVEL KOOK!
He is getting very desperate to cling to his lies, so much so that he
must MAKE UP his own rules of the game AFTER Mighty Iarnrod already
kicked his stupid KKKooker ass!
> And as your cohort, Lee Douglas "The Lone Weasel", so often posts:
>
> "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"
> (False in one thing, false in all)
That makes you false in all things, then, Tiny!!
Congrats, LIAR!!
> Oh, BTW:
>
> "Hawaii settled it for all time and under the Constitution you are
> required to STFU and accept it."
> "The state records speak for themselves and the Constitution requires
> that you STFU and accept it."
> "The Constitution requires that you accept it and STFU."
> Wed, 22 Dec 2010 05:24:57 -0800 (PST)
>
> Still haven't found anywhere in the Unites States Constatution that
> states "When Iarnród the Simpleton' claims something to be, `STFU and
> accept it'."
Well then I guess you’re just a moron. The Constitution requires that
you accept Hawaii’s certification that Obama is a natural born
citizen, the first and ONLY presidential candidate ever in American
history to so document his claim. You are required to accept it and
STFU about it … unless of course you hate America, which you already
have demonstrated.
Too bad, so sad, for TinyJohnsn the LUZER!!