Trump Wants New Limits On Free Speech

[Mitchell Holman]

Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
Jan 7 2018


President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
new book detailing the inner workings of the White
House as "fiction".

Suggesting he would like to see tougher laws on
speech, Mr Trump said that if libel laws "were
strong... you wouldn’t have things like that
happen where you can say whatever comes into your
head" – referring to Michael Wolff’s book Fire
and Fury: Inside the Trump White House.

The book has caused a storm of controversy and
has left the President facing questions about
his mental state, with quotes in Fire and Fury –
including from Mr Trump’s former chief strategist
Steve Bannon - suggesting that even those close
to Mr Trump had questioned his capability.

Early on Saturday, Mr Trump wrote a string of
messages on Twitter where he rejected such claims,
saying he was a "very stable genius” whose two
greatest assets are his "mental stability and
being, like, really smart".

http://tinyurl.com/y9w8bxzp

[NoBody]

On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:58:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noe...@verizont.net> wrote:

>
>
>Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
>speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
>Jan 7 2018
>
>
>President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
>libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
>new book detailing the inner workings of the White
>House as "fiction".
>

There is no right to libel someone, Mitchie.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <72l65dtfe3ndfca3j...@4ax.com>,

And it's really, really hard to commit libel in the US.

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[WikiLies]

On 01/08/2018 07:06 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <72l65dtfe3ndfca3j...@4ax.com>,
> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:58:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
>>> speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
>>> Jan 7 2018
>>>
>>>
>>> President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
>>> libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
>>> new book detailing the inner workings of the White
>>> House as "fiction".
>>>
>>
>> There is no right to libel someone, Mitchie.
>
> And it's really, really hard to commit libel in the US.
>

Especially when you're a Liberal in the FBI...

[Mitchell Holman]

Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:chine.bleu-
F19018.040...@reader.eternal-september.org:

> In article <72l65dtfe3ndfca3j...@4ax.com>,
> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:58:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
>> >speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
>> >Jan 7 2018
>> >
>> >
>> >President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
>> >libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
>> >new book detailing the inner workings of the White
>> >House as "fiction".
>> >
>>
>> There is no right to libel someone, Mitchie.
>
> And it's really, really hard to commit libel in the US.
>

Trump accuses Ted Cruz's father of killing JFK
and dares to accuse others of libel.

Oh, the irony............

[#BeamMeUpScotty]

Can you commit libel against a dead person? Cruz's father is dead isn't he?


--
That's Karma

If an illegal alien terrorist blows up a building in a Sanctuary City,
is it illegal or is it just an Undocumented fireworks display?

[Josh Rosenbluth]

Right. So exactly why does Trump think our libel laws are "very weak"?

[Phil Omdahl]

On 1/8/2018 3:22 AM, NoBody wrote:

The unflattering book contains no libel.

[Mitchell Holman]

#BeamMeUpScotty <I'm-With-...@ideocracy.gov> wrote in
news:A_L4C.463631$oE2.4...@fx33.iad:

> On 01/08/2018 09:39 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:chine.bleu-
>> F19018.040...@reader.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> In article <72l65dtfe3ndfca3j...@4ax.com>,
>>> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:58:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>>>> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
>>>>> speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
>>>>> Jan 7 2018
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
>>>>> libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
>>>>> new book detailing the inner workings of the White
>>>>> House as "fiction".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no right to libel someone, Mitchie.
>>>
>>> And it's really, really hard to commit libel in the US.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Trump accuses Ted Cruz's father of killing JFK
>> and dares to accuse others of libel.
>>
>> Oh, the irony............
>
> Can you commit libel against a dead person? Cruz's father is dead
> isn't he?
>
>

Wrong. Rafael Cruz is very much alive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Bienvenido_Cruz

Now tell us why accusing him of murder is NOT libel.

[NoBody]

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:43:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

Ask him.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <1h795d5rajlirvq1i...@4ax.com>,

[crickets]

[Mitchell Holman]

Mitchell Holman <noe...@verizont.net> wrote in
news:XnsA864D80CA49...@216.166.97.131:

Well, Beamer?

[Duane D La Motte]

The book contains no libel.

[Josh Rosenbluth]

On 1/9/2018 2:49 AM, NoBody wrote:

I'm asking you because you responded to "Donald Trump has hit out at
very weak libel laws" by saying "There is no right to libel someone,"
which sounded like a defense of Trump's statement. If your response
wasn't a defense of Trump's statement, what was the relevance of your
response?

[#BeamMeUpScotty]

My thought is that Rafael Cruz should gather up all the documents that
prove he didn't kill JFK and then file the suit and be prepared to be
deposed and spend the rest of his life with lawyers trying to prove his
innocence.... And if he clearly wasn't any where near JFK and didn't
conspire against JFK then he might actually convince some people....
but proving your innocence is far more difficult than proving you are
simply NOT guilty.

looking at that, it would be unlikely that Rafael Cruz would win
anything before he dies.

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You might keep your eyes on the ones with big red shoes, I hear from
some that the bigger the feet the bigger the tool, you might want to
date someone with an orange wig and big shoes. I always figured clowns
must get more action than anyone since they have such
large................ shoes.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <Me65C.137077$Qg.1...@fx19.iad>,

'President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak" libel laws in the US...'

[#BeamMeUpScotty]

if that's his opinion that's fine but I say it's far different to prove
libel as opposed to Criminal guilt. Not only can't TRUMP change that
he would be wasting his time trying so it's a fart in the wind, nothing
here to see, move along.

--
That's Karma


*Rumination*
129 - *Thanks for the advice it was worth every penny I paid for it*

[Mitchell Holman]

#BeamMeUpScotty <Not-...@ideocracy.gov> wrote in news:Me65C.137077
$Qg.1...@fx19.iad:

That isn't the way it works.

Trump accused Cruz of murder.

Where is the proof?

[NoBody]

On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 03:04:27 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <1h795d5rajlirvq1i...@4ax.com>,
> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:43:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 1/8/2018 3:22 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:58:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman
>> >> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
>> >>> speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
>> >>> Jan 7 2018
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
>> >>> libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
>> >>> new book detailing the inner workings of the White
>> >>> House as "fiction".
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> There is no right to libel someone, Mitchie.
>> >
>> >Right. So exactly why does Trump think our libel laws are "very weak"?
>>
>> Ask him.
>
>
>[crickets]

Another evasion and fleeing from the thread is so noted.

[NoBody]

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 13:47:24 -0500, #BeamMeUpScotty

Libs do have to whine about everything or they wouldn't be libs.

[NoBody]

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 08:00:35 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>

Josh you are a confusing person. Stating that there is no right to
libel someone is NOT the same as defending Trump's statement. He can
do that himself. Can you show where there is a right to libel
someone? You're demanding that I support something someone else said
which is ridiculous.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <dfsb5d9i6rr1d4ptc...@4ax.com>,

Geeze, you're an idiot. Libel is tort and therefore actionable. However libel is
difficult to commit. Publishing unflattery truth is not libel. Publishing lies
is also not libel.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <edsb5dl52ca9ldee0...@4ax.com>,

Weak libel laws are what are protecting Drumpf slurring people.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <rasb5d5e98h70hplp...@4ax.com>,

NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 03:04:27 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <1h795d5rajlirvq1i...@4ax.com>,
> > NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 07:43:25 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 1/8/2018 3:22 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:58:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> >> >> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
> >> >>> speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
> >> >>> Jan 7 2018
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
> >> >>> libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
> >> >>> new book detailing the inner workings of the White
> >> >>> House as "fiction".
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> There is no right to libel someone, Mitchie.
> >> >
> >> >Right. So exactly why does Trump think our libel laws are "very weak"?
> >>
> >> Ask him.
> >
> >
> >[crickets]
>
> Another evasion and fleeing from the thread is so noted.

[Josh Rosenbluth]

Of course there is no right to libel someone. But, why did you respond

to "Donald Trump has hit out at very weak libel laws" by saying "There

is o right to libel"?

[Robert Sollinger]

On 1/10/2018 3:01 AM, NoBody wrote:

There are no federal libel laws upon which can be "very strict".

"Trump Once Again Threatens to Change Federal Libel Laws That Don’t Exist"

In the latest in a long line of attacks on freedom of the press,
President Trump has once again threatened today to change libel laws
to make it easier to sue news organizations, publishers, and others
after the publication of an unflattering book.

“We are going to take a strong look at our country’s libel laws so
that when somebody says something that is false and defamatory about
someone, that person will have meaningful recourse in our courts,”
Trump said.

Fortunately, there are two strong obstacles standing in his way.
Chief among them is the First Amendment, which clearly protects
freedom of the press. But the other main barrier is the inconvenient
fact that there is no federal libel law for President Trump to bully
Congress to change. Libel cases are based on state laws, which
neither the president nor Congress has control over because of our
nation’s federalist system.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/freedom-press/trump-once-again-threatens-change-federal-libel-laws-dont-exist

The stupid fucktard Bit of Nothingess will never be an adult.

[Rudy Canoza]

There are no federal libel laws on which Trumpchev can be "very strict".
He can't do a thing.

[Robert Söllinger]

Trumpchev is just pissy because the libel laws are quite strong enough,
and they don't prevent anyone from saying what a shitbag Trumpchev is.

Mr. Wolff says that someone else said Trumpchev referred to the First
Pole Dance as his "trophy wife". That is not libel.

[Fred Oinka]

On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 7:06:36 AM UTC-5, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <72l65dtfe3ndfca3j...@4ax.com>,

> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:58:49 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> > <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Donald Trump suggests he wants US law to limit free
> > >speech in wake of publication of explosive new book
> > >Jan 7 2018
> > >
> > >
> > >President Donald Trump has hit out at "very weak"
> > >libel laws in the US as he branded an explosive
> > >new book detailing the inner workings of the White
> > >House as "fiction".
> > >
> >
> > There is no right to libel someone, Mitchie.
>

> And it's really, really hard to commit libel in the US.
>

That's true, and why CNN and MSNBC don't spend all their time in court.

[NoBody]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 05:10:08 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

That would be for a court to decide, not you.

[NoBody]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:16:06 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth

Perhaps you should review the thread.

[NoBody]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 05:10:59 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>

Oh, ok. If it makes you feel better you can be hard on yourself.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <a8ge5d1ogogsjbn7u...@4ax.com>,

[Siri Cruise]

In article <d6ge5dp05d5e6qm47...@4ax.com>,

[crickets]

[NoBody]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 07:11:04 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>

At least you know you have nothing to offer.

[Siri Cruise]

In article <u74h5d5pjoh76433d...@4ax.com>,

[NoBody]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:04:19 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>

Fortunately you at least know that you have nothing to offer.