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Sid.

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Apr 18, 2016, 2:43:26 PM4/18/16
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The curse of ham, not eating pork ?

abelard

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Apr 18, 2016, 2:45:53 PM4/18/16
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 19:42:26 +0100, "Sid." <a.8...@ymail.com> wrote:

>The curse of ham, not eating pork ?

:-)


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Apr 18, 2016, 2:49:52 PM4/18/16
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Sancho Cruz wrote:

> Remember,

Ok Sancho bihatch, get down on your knees and shine my shoe.

If its OK for the bible, then by golly its OK by me.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Apr 18, 2016, 6:23:02 PM4/18/16
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On 04/18/2016 02:42 PM, Sid. wrote:
> The curse of ham, not eating pork ?

It's a test to see if you agree with every rule someone impresses on
you.... NOTICE it's voluntary NOT mandated ownership of slaves. But then
it doesn't specify between a human or donkey as a slave does it?

Aren't they all considered beasts of burden?

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That's Karma

abelard

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Apr 18, 2016, 6:27:59 PM4/18/16
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:22:46 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
<All-Liberal-Policies...@blackhole.nebulax.com>
wrote:

>On 04/18/2016 02:42 PM, Sid. wrote:
>> The curse of ham, not eating pork ?
>
>It's a test to see if you agree with every rule someone impresses on
>you.... NOTICE it's voluntary NOT mandated ownership of slaves.

can you provide a price list with *honest and reliable* descriptions..
and how long is the standard guarantee?


> But then
>it doesn't specify between a human or donkey as a slave does it?
>
>Aren't they all considered beasts of burden?

some people are both beasts and a burden


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Beam Me Up Scotty

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Apr 18, 2016, 8:06:54 PM4/18/16
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On 04/18/2016 06:27 PM, abelard wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:22:46 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <All-Liberal-Policies...@blackhole.nebulax.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/18/2016 02:42 PM, Sid. wrote:
>>> The curse of ham, not eating pork ?
>>
>> It's a test to see if you agree with every rule someone impresses on
>> you.... NOTICE it's voluntary NOT mandated ownership of slaves.
>
> can you provide a price list with *honest and reliable* descriptions..
> and how long is the standard guarantee?

Check with ObamaCare they deal in Fractional slave pools....

Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 18, 2016, 8:07:33 PM4/18/16
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In article <XnsA5EE848F...@46.165.242.91>,
Sancho Cruz <iamth...@xhotmail.com> wrote:

> Remember, The Bible was written long ago by men who were far
> smarter than we are today.


What's your evidence for that statement?

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JD

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream
up a God superior to themselves. Most
Gods have the manners and morals of a
spoiled child.

Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas

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Apr 18, 2016, 8:12:04 PM4/18/16
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Sancho Cruz <iamth...@xhotmail.com> wrote in
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> Remember, The Bible was written long ago by men who were far
> smarter than we are today. That's why they're in The Bible
> and nobody from this century is. There aren't any scientists
> in The Bible either. It's for good reason, survey's show that
> most scientists are leftists.
>
> "Read and Obey The Bible"
>
> http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/1992/issue33/3324.html
>
> *Why Christians Should Support Slavery*
>
> Key reasons advanced by southern church leaders
> by The Editors
> 1/01/1992
>
>
> Many southern Christians felt that slavery, in one Baptist
> minister's words, "stands as an institution of God." Here's
> why.
>
> Biblical Reasons
>
> * Abraham, the "father of faith," and all the patriarchs held
> slaves without God's disapproval (Gen. 21:9-10).
>
> * Canaan, Ham's son, was made a slave to his brothers (Gen.
> 9:24-27).
>
> * The Ten Commandments mention slavery twice, showing God's
> implicit acceptance of it (Ex. 20:10, 17).
>
> * Slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, and yet
> Jesus never spoke against it.
>
> * The apostle Paul specifically commanded slaves to obey their
> masters (Eph. 6:5-8).
>
> * Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master
> (Philem. 12).
>
>
> Charitable and Evangelistic Reasons
>
> * Slavery removes people from a culture that "worshipped the
> devil, practiced witchcraft, and sorcery" and other evils.
>
> * Slavery brings heathens to a Christian land where they can
> hear the gospel. Christian masters provide religious
> instruction for their slaves.
>
> * Under slavery, people are treated with kindness, as many
> northern visitors can attest.
>
> * It is in slaveholders' own interest to treat their slaves
> well.
>
> * Slaves are treated more benevolently than are workers in
> oppressive northern factories.
>
>
> Social Reasons
>
> * Just as women are called to play a subordinate role (Eph.
> 5:22; 1 Tim. 2:11-15), so slaves are stationed by God in their
> place.
>
> * Slavery is God's means of protecting and providing for an
> inferior race (suffering the "curse of Ham" in Gen. 9:25 or
> even the punishment of Cain in Gen. 4:12).
>
> * Abolition would lead to slave uprisings, bloodshed, and
> anarchy. Consider the mob's "rule of terror" during the French
> Revolution.
>
>
> Political Reasons
>
> * Christians are to obey civil authorities, and those
> authorities permit and protect slavery.
>
> * The church should concentrate on spiritual matters, not
> political ones.
>
> * Those who support abolition are, in James H. Thornwell's
> words, "atheists, socialists, communists [and] red
> republicans."
>
>

Yep, and we are going to enslave the libs and finally make them useful
members of society by making them earn thier keep.

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"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,
with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."--
Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Apr 18, 2016, 8:45:59 PM4/18/16
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On 04/18/2016 06:27 PM, abelard wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 18:22:46 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <All-Liberal-Policies...@blackhole.nebulax.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/18/2016 02:42 PM, Sid. wrote:
>>> The curse of ham, not eating pork ?
>>
>> It's a test to see if you agree with every rule someone impresses on
>> you.... NOTICE it's voluntary NOT mandated ownership of slaves.
>
> can you provide a price list with *honest and reliable* descriptions..
> and how long is the standard guarantee?

Check with ObamaCare they deal in Fractional slave pools....

Or maybe child support at family services since they also manage a
fractional slavery Temp-service.


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That's Karma





*Rumination*
#61.0.2 - Democrats have created a Matrix to convince you life is
good... you might call it the Liberal-Socialist "MACHINE" that has
created your Democrat Matrix. Neo... swallow the bitter RED pill in the
post above, and see reality.

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Apr 18, 2016, 9:31:50 PM4/18/16
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That's like trying to milk a dead cow....

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That's Karma





*Rumination*
#16 - I'm not a genius "but I know how to hire them".

︰ones

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Apr 18, 2016, 10:52:01 PM4/18/16
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X-NO-IDIOTS

On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 17:02:30 +0000 (UTC), in talk.politics.guns Sancho
Cruz <iamth...@xhotmail.com> wrote:

> It's for good reason, survey's show that
>most scientists are leftists.

"surveys"

Ted&Alice

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Apr 18, 2016, 11:03:55 PM4/18/16
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<koo...@maricaibo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 21:31:34 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <All-Liberal-Policies...@blackhole.nebulax.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Yep, and we are going to enslave the libs and finally make them useful
>>> members of society by making them earn thier keep.
>>>
>> That's like trying to milk a dead cow....
>
> The only citizens who "milk the system"---are idiots like you
>
>

What are you talking about?? He works for a living. You don't.

Baron Mind

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Apr 19, 2016, 12:12:30 AM4/19/16
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On 4/18/2016 10:03 PM, Ted&Alice wrote:
>
> What are you talking about?? He works for a living. You don't.

You sound like Bill Bonde..

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which seek to resemble ideas" -Lionel Trilling

DoD

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Apr 19, 2016, 12:14:15 AM4/19/16
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"Baron Mind" <baron.v...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:nf4b12$stv$1...@dont-email.me...
> On 4/18/2016 10:03 PM, Ted&Alice wrote:
>>
>> What are you talking about?? He works for a living. You don't.
>
> You sound like Bill Bonde..

You sound like an ass....

Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 19, 2016, 6:07:42 AM4/19/16
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In article <eo6bhbd1a6r253s3o...@4ax.com>,
koo...@maricaibo.com wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 17:07:31 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <XnsA5EE848F...@46.165.242.91>,
> > Sancho Cruz <iamth...@xhotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Remember, The Bible was written long ago by men who were far
> >> smarter than we are today.
> >
> >
> >What's your evidence for that statement?
>
> God said so.

In other words, none.

Ted&Alice

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Apr 19, 2016, 7:31:56 AM4/19/16
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LOL! :)

Gronk

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Apr 24, 2016, 11:56:29 PM4/24/16
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Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
> On 04/18/2016 02:42 PM, Sid. wrote:
>> The curse of ham, not eating pork ?
>
> It's a test to see if you agree with every rule someone impresses on
> you.... NOTICE it's voluntary NOT mandated ownership of slaves. But then
> it doesn't specify between a human or donkey as a slave does it?


Leviticus 25:44-46 - Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt
have, [shall be] of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye
buy bondmen and bondmaids. (Read More...)

Exodus 21:20-21 - And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod,
and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. (Read More...)

Exodus 21:16 - And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be
found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

Galatians 5:1 - Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath
made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Ephesians 6:5 - Servants, be obedient to them that are [your] masters
according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your
heart, as unto Christ;

Colossians 4:1 - Masters, give unto [your] servants that which is just and
equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.

Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor
free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 2:18 - Servants, [be] subject to [your] masters with all fear; not
only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

Titus 2:9-10 - [Exhort] servants to be obedient unto their own masters,
[and] to please [them] well in all [things]; not answering again; (Read
More...)

Luke 4:18 - The Spirit of the Lord [is] upon me, because he hath anointed
me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the
brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of
sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Exodus 21:1-36 - Now these [are] the judgments which thou shalt set before
them. (Read More...)


> Aren't they all considered beasts of burden?
>

People are beasts of burden?

Olrik

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Apr 25, 2016, 12:48:07 AM4/25/16
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Blacks were, for a lot of religious people at least. After all, US xians
and jews, at one point, based their whole economy on using dark skinned
people as beasts.

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Olrik
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EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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