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David Hartung

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Aug 2, 2019, 7:50:11 AM8/2/19
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[...]
Advocates, state lawmakers and legal organizations are setting up the
infrastructure to prepare for potential changes to the landmark 1973
abortion rights case Roe v. Wade.

Four major conservative advocacy groups will host an event next January
that will train abortion opponents on policies and activism strategies
to implement under the assumption that the Supreme Court eventually may
change its precedent and expand states’ authority over abortion.

The focus beyond Roe v. Wade comes after Republican officials
successfully pushed for state laws this year that could challenge the
1973 case and liberal groups have played defense. Activists are planning
more state initiatives next year.

“We know that Roe v. Wade will become a historical footnote in our
nation, and this summit is part of our preparation for the day when
abortion returns to the states and when Americans can have a voice and a
vote for life,” said Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life of
America, which is spearheading the event.
[...]

It seems that despite the claims of the pro-abortion people, Roe is not
"settled" law.

ed...@post.com

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Aug 2, 2019, 8:34:42 AM8/2/19
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So whatever happened to this fantasy of yours of Maximum Freedom for the individual? Did it just go poof all of a sudden for you?

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 2, 2019, 8:52:16 AM8/2/19
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David Hartung <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/this-is-the-post-roe-army-grassroot
Roe v Wade was a product of a GOP-dominated
Supreme Court, and has remained the law during
the following 45 years of GOP-dominated Supreme
Courts. Entire generations of women have grown
up knowing nothing but the safety of legal
abortion should they need it. Do not expect it
to go away soon.



B Hasselback

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Aug 2, 2019, 8:54:58 AM8/2/19
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Your religious-zealot-clergy-pervs are anti-abortion simply because there will be fewer children for them to molest.

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 2, 2019, 9:04:33 AM8/2/19
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"ed...@post.com" <ed...@post.com> wrote in
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Hartung hates Big Government. Except for
the abortion restrictions he likes, the drug
restrictions he likes, the immigration
restrictions he likes, the Death With Dignity
restrictions he likes, the voting restrictions
he likes........











Siri Cruise

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Aug 2, 2019, 9:14:27 AM8/2/19
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In article <q6idnQuPi5jwvtnA...@giganews.com>,
David Hartung <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Advocates, state lawmakers and legal organizations are setting up the
> infrastructure to prepare for potential changes to the landmark 1973
> abortion rights case Roe v. Wade.

Naw. California legalised abortions years ago. Regardless of what happens to
you, we don't waste time and money on this crap. Meanwhile iDJT continues to
throw his orangesuckers into turmoil and poverty.

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David Hartung

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Aug 2, 2019, 10:41:21 AM8/2/19
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As is usual, the pro-abortion "zealots"have no argument.

I have no idea if Roe will be overturned, but doing so would be the
right thing to do. That would throw the issue back to the several
states, to do as they deem proper.

Rudy Canoza

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Aug 2, 2019, 11:03:29 AM8/2/19
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On 8/2/2019 7:41 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 8/2/19 6:50 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/this-is-the-post-roe-army-grassroots-groups-prep-for-a-post-roe-v-wade-america
>>
>>
>> [...]
>> Advocates, state lawmakers and legal organizations are setting up the
>> infrastructure to prepare for potential changes to the landmark 1973
>> abortion rights case Roe v. Wade.
>>
>> Four major conservative advocacy groups will host an event next January
>> that will train abortion opponents on policies and activism strategies to
>> implement under the assumption that the Supreme Court eventually may
>> change its precedent and expand states’ authority over abortion.
>>
>> The focus beyond Roe v. Wade comes after Republican officials
>> successfully pushed for state laws this year that could challenge the
>> 1973 case and liberal groups have played defense. Activists are planning
>> more state initiatives next year.
>>
>> “We know that Roe v. Wade will become a historical footnote in our
>> nation, and this summit is part of our preparation for the day when
>> abortion returns to the states and when Americans can have a voice and a
>> vote for life,” said Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life of
>> America, which is spearheading the event.
>> [...]
>>
>> It seems that despite the claims of the pro-abortion people, Roe is not
>> "settled" law.
>
> As is usual,

Fuck off, troll.

ed...@post.com

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Aug 2, 2019, 11:28:10 AM8/2/19
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So that wouldn't eliminate abortion. It just means women would have to travel farther for it, or choose the alternative of being butchered in back alleys again. So what's the point of overturning Roe v. Wade, then? It can't be for something as stupidly lame a reason as throwing the issue back to the "several states" if not all the states are going to fall in line.


BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 2, 2019, 12:15:28 PM8/2/19
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It means they can live in what ever State they choose that offers the
killing of a baby in the uterus... the same with choosing any STATE
PROVIDED HEALTH CARE depending on whether it's available in the State
they live in. And the Federal Government will NOT be involved. I'm sure
that like a gambling cruise, the Leftist NON PROFITS will create a bus
rout so that once a wee they'll pick up in front of their
Socialist-Democrat PARTY headquarters, and drive them to the State line
where there will be a clinic.... and there will be a payment plan
worked out and they will get a State subsidy for it and then sell the
baby parts for money that they can donate to the Socialist-Democrats...
election funds.

And since the CONSTITUTION DOESN'T delegate the United States the powers
to Regulate or fund or ban "public health care" or abortion.... then
the Socialists Marxists will have to have enough money to fund it in the
States where they live. But the Supreme Court will be following the U.S.
Constitution on those subjects for the first time in decades. And if a
State can fund it's policies with it's State TAXES then they can
Constitutionally do it.

And we will see how it works... Which will in turn show us how
Socialism and Marxism works. And rest assured that the Socialists and
Marxists will try to take over other States as they did in NY and
California. But they'll lose people that produce and gain people who
live off of the States subsidies.... so they'll become just like
California where the Middle Class and a good deal of the wealthy will
leave. The resulting lack of a tax base will cause the State government
to collapse. And the Constitution will be working as it's supposed to
work.

The Welfare subsidies and the public schools will also need to revert
back to being funded and implemented entirely by the States since the
Federal Government has no delegated powers to meddle in education or the
welfare of any person or State. It's part of what gives us freedom,
less government over our daily lives.

Then the Feds can concentrate and regulate and put all their attention
and funding on what the CONSTITUTION does delegate Congress the powers
to do.








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Byker

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Aug 2, 2019, 2:13:59 PM8/2/19
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"David Hartung" wrote in message
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>
> http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/this-is-the-post-roe-army-grassroots-groups-prep-for-a-post-roe-v-wade-america
>
> “We know that Roe v. Wade will become a historical footnote in our nation,
> and this summit is part of our preparation for the day when abortion
> returns to the states and when Americans can have a voice and a vote for
> life,” said Kristan Hawkins, president of Students for Life of America,
> which is spearheading the event.

Now if only SCOTUS will shitcan Brown vs. Board of Education
and reinstate Plessy vs. Ferguson...

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 2, 2019, 10:57:23 PM8/2/19
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David Hartung <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:VKydnQ4Xj6oX1tnA...@giganews.com:
You support abortion if a state chooses
to keep it legal?



David Hartung

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Aug 3, 2019, 7:41:10 AM8/3/19
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On 8/2/19 9:57 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> David Hartung <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:VKydnQ4Xj6oX1tnA...@giganews.com:
>
>> On 8/2/19 6:50 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/this-is-the-post-roe-army-grassroo
>>> ts-groups-prep-for-a-post-roe-v-wade-america
>>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> Advocates, state lawmakers and legal organizations are setting up the
>>> infrastructure to prepare for potential changes to the landmark 1973
>>> abortion rights case Roe v. Wade.
>>>
>>> Four major conservative advocacy groups will host an event next
>>> January that will train abortion opponents on policies and activism
>>> strategies to implement under the assumption that the Supreme Court
>>> eventually may change its precedent and expand states’ authority
>>> over abortion.
>>>
>>> The focus beyond Roe v. Wade comes after Republican officials
>>> successfully pushed for state laws this year that could challenge the
>>> 1973 case and liberal groups have played defense. Activists are
>>> planning more state initiatives next year.
>>>
>>> “We know that Roe v. Wade will become a historical footnote in our
>>> nation, and this summit is part of our preparation for the day when
>>> abortion returns to the states and when Americans can have a voice
>>> and a vote for life,†said Kristan Hawkins, president of Students
>>> for Life of America, which is spearheading the event.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> It seems that despite the claims of the pro-abortion people, Roe is
>>> not "settled" law.
>>
>> As is usual, the pro-abortion "zealots"have no argument.
>>
>> I have no idea if Roe will be overturned, but doing so would be the
>> right thing to do. That would throw the issue back to the several
>> states, to do as they deem proper.
>>
>
> You support abortion if a state chooses
> to keep it legal?

Of course not.

ed...@post.com

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Aug 3, 2019, 10:02:01 AM8/3/19
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You make absolutely zero sense.

Rudy Canoza

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Aug 3, 2019, 2:01:44 PM8/3/19
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On 8/2/2019 7:57 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> David Hartung <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:VKydnQ4Xj6oX1tnA...@giganews.com:
>
>> On 8/2/19 6:50 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/this-is-the-post-roe-army-grassroo
>>> ts-groups-prep-for-a-post-roe-v-wade-america
>>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> Advocates, state lawmakers and legal organizations are setting up the
>>> infrastructure to prepare for potential changes to the landmark 1973
>>> abortion rights case Roe v. Wade.
>>>
>>> Four major conservative advocacy groups will host an event next
>>> January that will train abortion opponents on policies and activism
>>> strategies to implement under the assumption that the Supreme Court
>>> eventually may change its precedent and expand states’ authority
>>> over abortion.
>>>
>>> The focus beyond Roe v. Wade comes after Republican officials
>>> successfully pushed for state laws this year that could challenge the
>>> 1973 case and liberal groups have played defense. Activists are
>>> planning more state initiatives next year.
>>>
>>> “We know that Roe v. Wade will become a historical footnote in our
>>> nation, and this summit is part of our preparation for the day when
>>> abortion returns to the states and when Americans can have a voice
>>> and a vote for life,†said Kristan Hawkins, president of Students
>>> for Life of America, which is spearheading the event.
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> It seems that despite the claims of the pro-abortion people, Roe is
>>> not "settled" law.
>>
>> As is usual, the pro-abortion "zealots"have no argument.
>>
>> I have no idea if Roe will be overturned, but doing so would be the
>> right thing to do. That would throw the issue back to the several
>> states, to do as they deem proper.
>>
>
> You support abortion if a state chooses
> to keep it legal?

Of course he doesn't, you fucking moron. But that has nothing to do with a
belief that the federal government and overreaching federal courts should
not dictate this kind of policy.

This is why Ruth Bader Ginsburg is an inconsistent lying cunt. She
criticized Roe v. Wade on exactly those grounds: this really belonged with
the states, and the states were incrementally moving in what she sees as
the right direction. Then along comes queer marriage and Obergfell, and
what does the vile cunt do? Exactly the same as Roe, despite the fact that
the states, once again, were moving - faster this time - in the directly
she likes. The stupid cunt needs to get sick and die, now - worst justice
on the court in half a century.

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 3, 2019, 9:55:48 PM8/3/19
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Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con> wrote in
news:b_j1F.143701$ej3.1...@fx36.iad:
Funny how conservatives scream about states
rights and local control until a state or city
enacts a law THEY don't like, following which
THEY run screaming to federal courts for relief.







David Hartung

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Aug 4, 2019, 5:20:28 AM8/4/19
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On 8/3/19 8:55 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con> wrote in
> news:b_j1F.143701$ej3.1...@fx36.iad:
>
>> On 8/2/2019 7:57 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> David Hartung <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:VKydnQ4Xj6oX1tnA...@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> On 8/2/19 6:50 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/this-is-the-post-roe-army-grassr
>>>>> oo ts-groups-prep-for-a-post-roe-v-wade-america
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Advocates, state lawmakers and legal organizations are setting up
>>>>> the infrastructure to prepare for potential changes to the landmark
>>>>> 1973 abortion rights case Roe v. Wade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Four major conservative advocacy groups will host an event next
>>>>> January that will train abortion opponents on policies and activism
>>>>> strategies to implement under the assumption that the Supreme Court
>>>>> eventually may change its precedent and expand states’
>>>>> authority over abortion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The focus beyond Roe v. Wade comes after Republican officials
>>>>> successfully pushed for state laws this year that could challenge
>>>>> the 1973 case and liberal groups have played defense. Activists are
>>>>> planning more state initiatives next year.
>>>>>
>>>>> “We know that Roe v. Wade will become a historical footnote
>>>>> in our nation, and this summit is part of our preparation for the
>>>>> day when abortion returns to the states and when Americans can have
>>>>> a voice and a vote for life,†said Kristan Hawkins, president
>>>>> of Students for Life of America, which is spearheading the event.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that despite the claims of the pro-abortion people, Roe is
>>>>> not "settled" law.
>>>>
>>>> As is usual, the pro-abortion "zealots"have no argument.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea if Roe will be overturned, but doing so would be the
>>>> right thing to do. That would throw the issue back to the several
>>>> states, to do as they deem proper.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You support abortion if a state chooses
>>> to keep it legal?
>>
>> Of course he doesn't, you fucking moron. But that has nothing to do
>> with a belief that the federal government and overreaching federal
>> courts should not dictate this kind of policy.
>
>
> Funny how conservatives scream about states
> rights and local control until a state or city
> enacts a law THEY don't like, following which
> THEY run screaming to federal courts for relief.

What has this to do with Roe being settled law?

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 4, 2019, 9:27:59 AM8/4/19
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David Hartung <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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You are the only one here talking
about settled law, you tell us.



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