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California's bullet train... multibillion-dollar overrun.. seven years behind schedule
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Steve
Jan 14, 2017, 5:24:47 AM1/14/17
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Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down
and gave it to California..
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
--
Lord, please help me to be even more politically incorrect.
Byker
Jan 14, 2017, 11:00:07 AM1/14/17
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"Steve" wrote in message news:rfuj7c5375knpklrh...@4ax.com...
there's been talk about setting one up in the U.S., usually in California.
These programs never get off square one, no matter how much money and
enthusiasm is thrown at them, primarily because there can be no grade
crossings. All traffic would have to go under it or over it, and cities
would have to be gutted to make way for high-speed rails that can only be
used by high-speed trains. As it stands now, only a third of the route from
L.A. to Frisco can be used for high speed, because it's primarily farmland.
I suppose they'll try to use "eminent domain" laws to clear everything else
out of the way (fat chance).
A Google search tells it all: http://tinyurl.com/p66jk9h
Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
>
> Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down and
> gave it to California..
>
> http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
I swear, ever since Japan introduced its "bullet" train fifty years ago,
> Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down and
> gave it to California..
>
> http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
there's been talk about setting one up in the U.S., usually in California.
These programs never get off square one, no matter how much money and
enthusiasm is thrown at them, primarily because there can be no grade
crossings. All traffic would have to go under it or over it, and cities
would have to be gutted to make way for high-speed rails that can only be
used by high-speed trains. As it stands now, only a third of the route from
L.A. to Frisco can be used for high speed, because it's primarily farmland.
I suppose they'll try to use "eminent domain" laws to clear everything else
out of the way (fat chance).
A Google search tells it all: http://tinyurl.com/p66jk9h
Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
trainguard
Jan 14, 2017, 5:47:11 PM1/14/17
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On Saturday, 14 January 2017 16:00:07 UTC, Byker wrote:
That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
God, that's funny!
>
> Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
Bollocks!
That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
>
> Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
Steve
Jan 14, 2017, 6:25:24 PM1/14/17
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:47:10 -0800 (PST), trainguard
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, 14 January 2017 16:00:07 UTC, Byker wrote:
>
>That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
>
>We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
Europeans like to piss away their money on dumb things.... Most
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, 14 January 2017 16:00:07 UTC, Byker wrote:
>
>That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
>
>We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
passenger trains in the USA operate at a loss....
>> "Steve" wrote in message news:rfuj7c5375knpklrh...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down and
>> > gave it to California..
>> >
>> > http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
>>
>> I swear, ever since Japan introduced its "bullet" train fifty years ago,
>> there's been talk about setting one up in the U.S., usually in California.
>> These programs never get off square one, no matter how much money and
>> enthusiasm is thrown at them, primarily because there can be no grade
>> crossings. All traffic would have to go under it or over it, and cities
>> would have to be gutted to make way for high-speed rails that can only be
>> used by high-speed trains. As it stands now, only a third of the route from
>> L.A. to Frisco can be used for high speed, because it's primarily farmland.
>> I suppose they'll try to use "eminent domain" laws to clear everything else
>> out of the way (fat chance).
>>
>> A Google search tells it all: http://tinyurl.com/p66jk9h
>
>God, that's funny!
>
>>
>> Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
>
>Bollocks!
have a right to be taken care of by other persons.
Dänk 42Ø
Jan 14, 2017, 7:50:26 PM1/14/17
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On 01/14/2017 10:24 AM, Steve wrote:
>
> Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down
> and gave it to California..
>
> http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
It was originally sold to the public as a train from San Francisco to
>
> Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down
> and gave it to California..
>
> http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
Los Angeles, but now it will go between Fresno and Bakersfield. There
is a vague promise that trains from those cities will link up, but right
now the plan for getting to the final destination involves a Greyhound
bus.
Steve
Jan 14, 2017, 8:01:48 PM1/14/17
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Tampa-Orlando-Miami.. Thank goodness Florida recognized it as a
loser...
Byker
Jan 14, 2017, 10:04:05 PM1/14/17
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"trainguard" wrote in message
news:0fb75f62-e044-4fb6...@googlegroups.com...
states. London to Moscow is 1,500 miles, about 200 miles less than from Los
Angeles to Chicago...
news:0fb75f62-e044-4fb6...@googlegroups.com...
>
> That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
>
> We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never
> get that far....
Your cities are closer together and your countries are the size of American
> That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
>
> We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never
> get that far....
states. London to Moscow is 1,500 miles, about 200 miles less than from Los
Angeles to Chicago...
Fred Oinka
Jan 14, 2017, 11:57:10 PM1/14/17
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Must be all those black men, eh?
SLURP
SLURP
SLURP
BURP
trainguard
Jan 15, 2017, 2:08:18 AM1/15/17
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trainguard
Jan 15, 2017, 2:10:13 AM1/15/17
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trainguard
Jan 15, 2017, 2:10:51 AM1/15/17
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Alt Right
Jan 15, 2017, 10:15:08 AM1/15/17
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In article <0fb75f62-e044-4fb6-a7b0-
202a2c...@googlegroups.com>
> We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
Let's refine that, "dumb democrat Americans who live in shit
> > "Steve" wrote in message news:rfuj7c5375knpklrh...@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down and
> > > gave it to California..
> > >
> > > http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
> >
> > I swear, ever since Japan introduced its "bullet" train fifty years ago,
> > there's been talk about setting one up in the U.S., usually in California.
> > These programs never get off square one, no matter how much money and
> > enthusiasm is thrown at them, primarily because there can be no grade
> > crossings. All traffic would have to go under it or over it, and cities
> > would have to be gutted to make way for high-speed rails that can only be
> > used by high-speed trains. As it stands now, only a third of the route from
> > L.A. to Frisco can be used for high speed, because it's primarily farmland.
> > I suppose they'll try to use "eminent domain" laws to clear everything else
> > out of the way (fat chance).
> >
> > A Google search tells it all: http://tinyurl.com/p66jk9h
>
> God, that's funny!
>
> >
> > Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
>
> Bollocks!
Not bollocks, fact you math deficient knuckle-dragger.
On the fastest train (AmTrak) it takes 9 hours and 45 minutes to
get up there, mostly because of the mountains out of Los
Angeles, lack of tangent track, and all the stops it has to
make. Depending on your route, you might even have to take a
fucking bus from the station in LA to Bakersfield. Tehachapi
will see AmTrak #11 & #14 for two weeks in 2017 amongst all the
freight. Other PAX trains go up the coast route.
As for flying, it's not much better.
You spend 2 hours at the airport with the useless TSA union
asswipes before you get to board the plane, 1.5 hours flight
time with no delays, another hour to get your bags, rental car
or transportation to BART. It will be another 30 minutes, hour,
or two hours before reaching your destination in the congested
San Francisco/bay area. That's 5-6+ hours from start to finish
and you get there all pissed off, usually late. Flying is a
horrible trip in the modern era.
It is 5 h 30 min (379 miles) drive time between LAX and SFO
assuming you average around 70 MPH.
If you average between 75-80 MPH as many of us do, you can get
there in a little less than 5 hours. I know that for a fact
because I've done it numerous times in rental cars.
On a Kawaski KZ motorcycle my best time is 3 hours and 52
minutes. On a bike I average about 4 hours 20-30 minutes between
LA from the 101/405 interchange and fringes of SF.
I can ride a motorcyle to SF, fix hardware, and get back to the
SoCal region in less than 12 hours.
202a2c...@googlegroups.com>
trainguard <barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
>
> On Saturday, 14 January 2017 16:00:07 UTC, Byker wrote:
>
> That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
Homosexual Syphilis Test, something Euro homos specialize in.
>
> On Saturday, 14 January 2017 16:00:07 UTC, Byker wrote:
>
> That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
> We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
holes never get that far...."
Now it's accurate.
> > "Steve" wrote in message news:rfuj7c5375knpklrh...@4ax.com...
> > >
> > > Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down and
> > > gave it to California..
> > >
> > > http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
> >
> > I swear, ever since Japan introduced its "bullet" train fifty years ago,
> > there's been talk about setting one up in the U.S., usually in California.
> > These programs never get off square one, no matter how much money and
> > enthusiasm is thrown at them, primarily because there can be no grade
> > crossings. All traffic would have to go under it or over it, and cities
> > would have to be gutted to make way for high-speed rails that can only be
> > used by high-speed trains. As it stands now, only a third of the route from
> > L.A. to Frisco can be used for high speed, because it's primarily farmland.
> > I suppose they'll try to use "eminent domain" laws to clear everything else
> > out of the way (fat chance).
> >
> > A Google search tells it all: http://tinyurl.com/p66jk9h
>
> God, that's funny!
>
> >
> > Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
>
> Bollocks!
On the fastest train (AmTrak) it takes 9 hours and 45 minutes to
get up there, mostly because of the mountains out of Los
Angeles, lack of tangent track, and all the stops it has to
make. Depending on your route, you might even have to take a
fucking bus from the station in LA to Bakersfield. Tehachapi
will see AmTrak #11 & #14 for two weeks in 2017 amongst all the
freight. Other PAX trains go up the coast route.
As for flying, it's not much better.
You spend 2 hours at the airport with the useless TSA union
asswipes before you get to board the plane, 1.5 hours flight
time with no delays, another hour to get your bags, rental car
or transportation to BART. It will be another 30 minutes, hour,
or two hours before reaching your destination in the congested
San Francisco/bay area. That's 5-6+ hours from start to finish
and you get there all pissed off, usually late. Flying is a
horrible trip in the modern era.
It is 5 h 30 min (379 miles) drive time between LAX and SFO
assuming you average around 70 MPH.
If you average between 75-80 MPH as many of us do, you can get
there in a little less than 5 hours. I know that for a fact
because I've done it numerous times in rental cars.
On a Kawaski KZ motorcycle my best time is 3 hours and 52
minutes. On a bike I average about 4 hours 20-30 minutes between
LA from the 101/405 interchange and fringes of SF.
I can ride a motorcyle to SF, fix hardware, and get back to the
SoCal region in less than 12 hours.
Byker
Jan 15, 2017, 12:43:44 PM1/15/17
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"trainguard" wrote in message
news:bd12f509-7317-4543...@googlegroups.com...
your excuse is...
news:bd12f509-7317-4543...@googlegroups.com...
>
> Actually, I like taking the piss out of dumb colonials like you!
Our ancestors had the sense to move to a better place. I don't know what
> Actually, I like taking the piss out of dumb colonials like you!
your excuse is...
abelard
Jan 15, 2017, 12:48:39 PM1/15/17
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Steve
Jan 15, 2017, 4:16:51 PM1/15/17
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anywhere but on the Internet.
Steve
Jan 15, 2017, 4:18:12 PM1/15/17
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 23:10:11 -0800 (PST), trainguard
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
Most passenger trains run at a loss in the USA...
<barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
trainguard
Jan 15, 2017, 8:16:12 PM1/15/17
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trainguard
Jan 15, 2017, 8:25:35 PM1/15/17
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On Sunday, 15 January 2017 15:15:08 UTC, Alt Right wrote:
> In article <0fb75f62-e044-4fb6-a7b0-
> 202a2c...@googlegroups.com>
> trainguard <barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, 14 January 2017 16:00:07 UTC, Byker wrote:
> >
> > That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
>
> Homosexual Syphilis Test, something Euro homos specialize in.
>
> > We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
>
> Let's refine that, "dumb democrat Americans who live in shit
> holes never get that far...."
>
> Now it's accurate.
And now you have revealed your mental age to us....
> In article <0fb75f62-e044-4fb6-a7b0-
> 202a2c...@googlegroups.com>
> trainguard <barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, 14 January 2017 16:00:07 UTC, Byker wrote:
> >
> > That he is another idiot who doesn't know what a HST is........
>
> Homosexual Syphilis Test, something Euro homos specialize in.
>
> > We have them in Europe, but dumb Americans who live in shit holes never get that far....
>
> Let's refine that, "dumb democrat Americans who live in shit
> holes never get that far...."
>
> Now it's accurate.
>
> > > "Steve" wrote in message news:rfuj7c5375knpklrh...@4ax.com...
> > > >
> > > > Canyon Note: Thankfully, Florida turned this Federal boondoggle down and
> > > > gave it to California..
> > > >
> > > > http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-cost-overruns-20170106-story.html
> > >
> > > I swear, ever since Japan introduced its "bullet" train fifty years ago,
> > > there's been talk about setting one up in the U.S., usually in California.
> > > These programs never get off square one, no matter how much money and
> > > enthusiasm is thrown at them, primarily because there can be no grade
> > > crossings. All traffic would have to go under it or over it, and cities
> > > would have to be gutted to make way for high-speed rails that can only be
> > > used by high-speed trains. As it stands now, only a third of the route from
> > > L.A. to Frisco can be used for high speed, because it's primarily farmland.
> > > I suppose they'll try to use "eminent domain" laws to clear everything else
> > > out of the way (fat chance).
> > >
> > > A Google search tells it all: http://tinyurl.com/p66jk9h
> >
> > God, that's funny!
> >
> > >
> > > Even if it was built, it would still be faster to fly from LAX to SFO...
> >
> > Bollocks!
>
> Not bollocks, fact you math deficient knuckle-dragger.
>
> On the fastest train (AmTrak) it takes 9 hours and 45 minutes to
> get up there, mostly because of the mountains out of Los
> Angeles, lack of tangent track, and all the stops it has to
> make.
> Depending on your route, you might even have to take a
> fucking bus from the station in LA to Bakersfield. Tehachapi
> will see AmTrak #11 & #14 for two weeks in 2017 amongst all the
> freight. Other PAX trains go up the coast route.
Why are most of its opponents as thick as pig shit?
>
> As for flying, it's not much better.
>
> You spend 2 hours at the airport with the useless TSA union
> asswipes before you get to board the plane, 1.5 hours flight
> time with no delays, another hour to get your bags, rental car
> or transportation to BART. It will be another 30 minutes, hour,
> or two hours before reaching your destination in the congested
> San Francisco/bay area. That's 5-6+ hours from start to finish
> and you get there all pissed off, usually late. Flying is a
> horrible trip in the modern era.
>
> It is 5 h 30 min (379 miles) drive time between LAX and SFO
> assuming you average around 70 MPH.
>
> If you average between 75-80 MPH as many of us do, you can get
> there in a little less than 5 hours. I know that for a fact
> because I've done it numerous times in rental cars.
>
> On a Kawaski KZ motorcycle my best time is 3 hours and 52
> minutes. On a bike I average about 4 hours 20-30 minutes between
> LA from the 101/405 interchange and fringes of SF.
>
> I can ride a motorcyle to SF, fix hardware, and get back to the
> SoCal region in less than 12 hours.
Steve
Jan 16, 2017, 5:35:46 AM1/16/17
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colonists tow the line, a bunch of them got buried here and the rest
got their asses kicked out with their redcoat tails between their
legs.... Fruitcake losers like Worthington see that as another
indication of his country's inferiority.. similar to how he feels
about the Brits having to beg for our help twice to fight off the
Huns.
Cherry PopTart
Jan 17, 2017, 2:46:57 PM1/17/17
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On 1/15/2017 6:25 PM, trainguard wrote:
> And now you have revealed your mental age to us....
Shaddup, filthy shit-dick.
> And now you have revealed your mental age to us....
Cherry PopTart
Jan 17, 2017, 2:47:18 PM1/17/17
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On 1/15/2017 6:16 PM, trainguard wrote:
>> Our ancestors had the sense to move to a better place. I don't know what
>> your excuse is...
> Like a lot of European countries, we sent our maniacs overseas.....
To eastern Yurop on sex junkets, perv?
>> Our ancestors had the sense to move to a better place. I don't know what
>> your excuse is...
> Like a lot of European countries, we sent our maniacs overseas.....
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Matt
Jan 17, 2017, 4:11:29 PM1/17/17
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On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Steve wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:16:11 -0800 (PST), trainguard
> <barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, 15 January 2017 17:43:44 UTC, Byker wrote:
> >> "trainguard" wrote in message
> >> news:bd12f509-7317-4543...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Actually, I like taking the piss out of dumb colonials like you!
> >>
> >> Our ancestors had the sense to move to a better place. I don't know what
> >> your excuse is...
> >
> >Like a lot of European countries, we sent our maniacs overseas.....
>
> <chuckles> When the inbred British king sent his soldiers to make the
> colonists tow the line,
^^^
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:16:11 -0800 (PST), trainguard
> <barry_wo...@sky.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, 15 January 2017 17:43:44 UTC, Byker wrote:
> >> "trainguard" wrote in message
> >> news:bd12f509-7317-4543...@googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Actually, I like taking the piss out of dumb colonials like you!
> >>
> >> Our ancestors had the sense to move to a better place. I don't know what
> >> your excuse is...
> >
> >Like a lot of European countries, we sent our maniacs overseas.....
>
> <chuckles> When the inbred British king sent his soldiers to make the
> colonists tow the line,
"toe"
It is a pet peeve.
Matt
Kurt Nicklas
Jan 17, 2017, 4:33:20 PM1/17/17
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But there you are "ruled" by the degenerate, inbred Windsor / Battenberg blubbering morons with Sharia waiting in the wings.
Poor lil you, Harry.
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