OJ. Free and in the clear!
Totaljust
>Now all that has to be done is for that appeal to go thru.
That's like saying "Now all that has to be done is for me to win the lottery."
Dream on, gruesome.
>I suspect
>the subsequent trial,
Which trial? Are you saying that O.J. is going to kill AGAIN?
>if the Browns and Goldmans have the cojones, will
>come out a little differently.
So he'll go to the gas chamber next time? Tsk tsk.
>Then how are they going to pay their
>attorneys?
Cash. How's O.J. going to pay for his next attorney? With his cocaine money?
Get real.
Diane
news:2275c877...@usw-ex0106-048.remarq.com...
> Now all that has to be done is for that appeal to go thru. I suspect
> the subsequent trial, if the Browns and Goldmans have the cojones, will
> come out a little differently.
Not with all those pictures of him wearing the murder shoes and all his lies
under oath.
Dream on.
> Then how are they going to pay their
> attorneys?
The attys may do it for free....just for the satisfaction of getting a
verdict against the butcher.
That is if the verdict gets appealed...which it probably won't.
..diane
Altconn
Look how many books they've written about the case so far.
je
the world that has the courage to do the right thing on the appeal. No
he probaly will get screwed again.
Fortunatly he has learned to cope with what has happened to him and now
knows who are his true friends and who were fair weather and hanger on
friends.
Something that money cannot buy.
We should all have learned a lot about crowd mentallity, but
unfortunately only some of us did. I can see now how that when the media
is controled and gives out false information to a people who do not
educate themselves, before making a judgement, can install a dictator
like Hitler and eventually loose all rights to freedom.
ken_and...@my-deja.com
Oh, there are several valid grounds for the verdict in the civil trial
to be overturned. But the criminal trial? It is 'all done', sugar
cakes.
>
> ..diane
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
ken_and...@my-deja.com
alt...@aol.comedians (Altconn) wrote:
> Heck, the attorney's will probably do it for free. Why?
>
> Look how many books they've written about the case so far.
The Brown's and Goldman's attorney still need money to play golf on
don't they? 8~) Oh, my word!
John Griffin
>Unfortunately I have to agree. I don't think that there is a judge in
>the world that has the courage to do the right thing on the appeal. No
>he probaly will get screwed again.
To compensate for the dearth of cretin amusement around here today, please
tell us what you think is the "right thing," and most amusingly, why you
think so. Also tell us why someone would even sit on the court of appeals
if he didn't have balls enough to handle what is essentially nothing more
than a trivial matter of a dispute between two individuals.
>Fortunatly he has learned to cope with what has happened to him and now
>knows who are his true friends and who were fair weather and hanger on
>friends.
>Something that money cannot buy.
His butchery was merely something that happened to him, eh?
There's today's example of unrestrained Simpson idolatry.
>We should all have learned a lot about crowd mentallity, but
>unfortunately only some of us did.
You misspelled "fortunately." Also, the sing-song parroting of
Simpson cult speculation and pure bullshit is better described
as "mob," not "crowd" mentality. Mob hysteria would be an even
better description of your (collective) problem.
> I can see now how that when the media
>is controled and gives out false information to a people who do not
>educate themselves, before making a judgement, can install a dictator
>like Hitler and eventually loose all rights to freedom.
Give us an example of some time the media ever failed to give out false
information on any story. Keep in mind the fact that you don't have even
a forlorn hope of being able to tell the difference. Your fear that the
Simpson case is going to set off world war III, or whatever that babbling
was supposed to mean, is another example of Simpson thrall hysteria. Try
to get a grip, even if it takes some heavy duty chemicals.
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* O.J. Simpson's blood dripping from a cut on his left hand? *
* A: Yes. *
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Diane
<ken_and...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8p8i2u$1d7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <oEFt5.2970$%S5.1...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "Diane" <djb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > Backwoods Thinker <nagenor...@email.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:2275c877...@usw-ex0106-048.remarq.com...
> > > Now all that has to be done is for that appeal to go thru. I
> suspect
> > > the subsequent trial, if the Browns and Goldmans have the cojones,
> will
> > > come out a little differently.
> >
> > Not with all those pictures of him wearing the murder shoes and all
> his lies
> > under oath.
> >
> > Dream on.
> >
> > > Then how are they going to pay their
> > > attorneys?
> >
> > The attys may do it for free....just for the satisfaction of getting a
> > verdict against the butcher.
> >
> > That is if the verdict gets appealed...which it probably won't.
>
> Oh, there are several valid grounds for the verdict in the civil trial
> to be overturned.
Name them.
> But the criminal trial? It is 'all done', sugar
> cakes.
Only if they can't find some other grounds to try him on.
I wonder if he can be tried in federal court for violating their civil
rights, just like the cops were tried in federal court on the King beating.
..diane
Diane
news:3543-39B...@storefull-155.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> Unfortunately I have to agree. I don't think that there is a judge in
> the world that has the courage to do the right thing on the appeal. No
> he probaly will get screwed again.
List what was illegal about the civil trial that you believe caused him to
get "screwed".
> We should all have learned a lot about crowd mentallity, but
> unfortunately only some of us did.
We learned that some will believe anything in spite of hundreds of pieces of
evidence to the contrary.
Why they will ignore evidence and cling to their beliefs is certainly an
interesting and worrying phenonema.
> I can see now how that when the media
> is controled and gives out false information to a people who do not
> educate themselves, before making a judgement,
There has been plenty of information in this case that anyone who is able to
think can evalutate and come to the conclusion that simpson butchered those
people.
> can install a dictator
> like Hitler and eventually loose all rights to freedom.
Anyone who butchers two people should lose all rights to freedom.
..diane
Portctygirl
> alt...@aol.comedians (Altconn) wrote:
>> Heck, the attorney's will probably do it for free. Why?
>>
>> Look how many books they've written about the case so far.
>
>The Brown's and Goldman's attorney still need money to play golf on
>don't they? 8~) Oh, my word!
>>
Now here's some brain power at work:) I'll never understand people who try to
attack or be sarcastic about people who have had their children murdered. Well,
I do understand a little. They have nothing great and wonderful to say about
Simpson (understandable) so they attack the victims' families. I wonder if they
know how transparent this is? BTW, Simpson is the one who plays golf every day,
is it a crime? Somrthing to be ashamed of? I seriously doubt you know at all
what the Goldman or Brown attorneys do, but I'd bet they don't play near as
much golf as the murderer.
Carol
Only one person in 170 million has the genetic characteristics of the blood
found near Ron and Nicole's bodies; the defendant's blood matched those
characteristics.
From, His Name Is Ron---The Goldman Family
Slice and dice
portc...@aol.com (Portctygirl) wrote:
> >From: ken_and...@my-deja.com
>
> > alt...@aol.comedians (Altconn) wrote:
> >> Heck, the attorney's will probably do it for free. Why?
> >>
> >> Look how many books they've written about the case so far.
> >
> >The Brown's and Goldman's attorney still need money to play golf on
> >don't they? 8~) Oh, my word!
> >>
>
> Now here's some brain power at work:) I'll never understand people
who try to
> attack or be sarcastic about people who have had their children
murdered. Well,
> I do understand a little. They have nothing great and wonderful to
say about
> Simpson (understandable) so they attack the victims' families. I
wonder if they
> know how transparent this is? BTW, Simpson is the one who plays golf
every day,
> is it a crime? Somrthing to be ashamed of? I seriously doubt you know
at all
> what the Goldman or Brown attorneys do, but I'd bet they don't play
near as
> much golf as the murderer.
>
> Carol
Sounds like it has been a very, very long time since you had a real
good spasm, if you know what I mean Carol. But with Robert in charge
of that department, it surprises me not at all.
>
> Only one person in 170 million has the genetic characteristics of the
blood
> found near Ron and Nicole's bodies; the defendant's blood matched
those
> characteristics.
> From, His Name Is Ron---The Goldman Family
>
--
innocence until found guilty
verdict of not guilty
therefore, verdict of innocence
BSchnb
Mojay>Only one person in 170 million has the genetic characteristics of the
MARG0349
>From: bsc...@aol.com (BSchnb)
>Date: 10/1/00 11:27 AM US Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <20001001122717...@ng-cb1.aol.com>
Mojay, I was going to comment on your statement and the remark--the other
person made, but then I saw your source of information...There was too much the
Goldman family didn't understand about the blood evidence.
Mr. Goldman was blinded by his grief, and believed everything that Garcetti and
Co.fed him. Garcetti used Goldman as his vehicle to encite the public.
Some simple investigating proves Garcetti was even the one that was responsible
for Petrocelli, Krupp etc, contacting Fred Goldman, offering their services in
the civil suit. Further checking turns up some very interesting clients of
Petrocelli's law firm.
marg
marzipan{H}
responsible
> for Petrocelli, Krupp etc, contacting Fred Goldman, offering their
services in
> the civil suit. Further checking turns up some very interesting clients
of
> Petrocelli's law firm.
> marg
marg,
Check your sources. The company responsible for putting Goldman in contact
with Petrocelli is none other than -- ta-da! -- the Gap. Yes, you read that
right: the Gap's CEO was so convinced of Simpson's guilt that he urged Fred
Goldman to contact Petrocelli, set up a 1-800 number where people could
contribute money towards the cost of the civil trial and even gave his own
Gap employees time, during their workday, to take shifts manning the phones.
marzipan
Diane
news:20001001143827...@ng-cg1.aol.com...
> >Subject: Re: OJ. Free and in the clear!
> >From: bsc...@aol.com (BSchnb)
> >Date: 10/1/00 11:27 AM US Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <20001001122717...@ng-cb1.aol.com>
> >
> >Yes, but how did the blood get there?
> >Mojay>Only one person in 170 million has the genetic characteristics of
the
> >blood
> >>found near Ron and Nicole's bodies; the defendant's blood matched those
> >>characteristics.
> >> From, His Name Is Ron---The Goldman Family
> >
> >
> >
>
> Mojay, I was going to comment on your statement and the remark--the other
> person made, but then I saw your source of information...There was too
much the
> Goldman family didn't understand about the blood evidence.
What didn't he understand about the blood evidence?
..diane
BSchnb
prior to me. I was commenting on the quote.
Mojay
Portctygirl
>.There was too much the
>Goldman family didn't understand about the blood evidence.
What didn't they understand, if you could be specific?
>Mr. Goldman was blinded by his grief, and believed everything that Garcetti
>and
>Co.fed him. Garcetti used Goldman as his vehicle to encite the public.
>
I think Mr. Goldman believed the DNA as it doesn't lie. You may want to write
"IMO" or something like that after your statements, you are presenting them as
fact and it makes you look pretty foolish.
>Some simple investigating proves Garcetti was even the one that was
>responsible
>for Petrocelli, Krupp etc, contacting Fred Goldman, offering their services
>in
>the civil suit.
Some really simple reading would tell you truth, Marg. How Mr. Goldman and
Petrocelli got together has been described in the Goldman's book as well as in
Petrocelli's, and it wasn't Garcetti who united them.
> Further checking turns up some very interesting clients of
>Petrocelli's law firm.
That's ominous, care to elaborate? And as you do, please tell us what these
"other clients" have to do with this case.
Carol
John Griffin
>>.There was too much the
>>Goldman family didn't understand about the blood evidence.
>What didn't they understand, if you could be specific?
Does this mean that you forgot all about marg during her absence,
or was that some sarcasm?
>>Mr. Goldman was blinded by his grief, and believed everything that Garcetti
>>and
>>Co.fed him. Garcetti used Goldman as his vehicle to encite the public.
>I think Mr. Goldman believed the DNA as it doesn't lie. You may want to write
>"IMO" or something like that after your statements, you are presenting them as
>fact and it makes you look pretty foolish.
These aren't actually her opinions, so "IMO" wouldn't be accurate.
I suggest "IHIOTR" - "I heard it on the radio."
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Diane
John Griffin <hilb...@bigger.aa.net> wrote in message
news:39d90aa6$1...@huge.aa.net...
> Portctygirl <portc...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>From: marg...@aol.com
>
> >>.There was too much the
> >>Goldman family didn't understand about the blood evidence.
>
> >What didn't they understand, if you could be specific?
>
> Does this mean that you forgot all about marg during her absence,
> or was that some sarcasm?
>
> >>Mr. Goldman was blinded by his grief, and believed everything that
Garcetti
> >>and
> >>Co.fed him. Garcetti used Goldman as his vehicle to encite the public.
>
> >I think Mr. Goldman believed the DNA as it doesn't lie. You may want to
write
> >"IMO" or something like that after your statements, you are presenting
them as
> >fact and it makes you look pretty foolish.
>
> These aren't actually her opinions, so "IMO" wouldn't be accurate.
> I suggest "IHIOTR" - "I heard it on the radio."
LOL. Or RHI - Rumor has it
Or IPSISOHS - I'm parroting something I saw or heard somewhere
Or EIBS - Engaging in baseless speculation
..diane
Ron
<L%MB5.1317$DX4....@wagner.videotron.net>, "marzipan{H}"
<marz...@dog.com> wrote:
>> Some simple investigating proves Garcetti was even the one that was
>responsible
>> for Petrocelli, Krupp etc, contacting Fred Goldman, offering their
>services in
>> the civil suit. Further checking turns up some very interesting clients
>of
>> Petrocelli's law firm.
>> marg
>
>marg,
>
>Check your sources. The company responsible for putting Goldman in contact
>with Petrocelli is none other than -- ta-da! -- the Gap. Yes, you read that
>right: the Gap's CEO was so convinced of Simpson's guilt that he urged Fred
>Goldman to contact Petrocelli, set up a 1-800 number where people could
>contribute money towards the cost of the civil trial and even gave his own
>Gap employees time, during their workday, to take shifts manning the phones.
>
>marzipan
>
Actually, MSK client Paul Marciano, owner of Guess? Inc., spontaneously put
Petrocelli together with Goldman when Petrocelli was in his office on
another matter.
>
10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times closer than margpossipmonger
(clothes-maker Guess?, not clothes-seller Gap) but still no cigar.
BSchnb
only Guess was connected to this case, but that some of the woman wore Guess
clothing to the trial. I have a feeling that her information comes from
another connection that reveals a lot more information concerning the people
involved.
Thomas P. Jabine
BSchnb <bsc...@aol.com> wrote:
>I believe that it was Marge who found the information, many moons ago, that not
>only Guess was connected to this case, but that some of the woman wore Guess
>clothing to the trial.
You can't mean it.
John Griffin
LOL!! Really!
BSchnb
>>You can't mean it.
>
>LOL!! Really!
You were treating her post as if she wasn't aware of these facts. I was just
reminding everyone that she is well aware of these facts and more surrounding
that particular subject.
Mojay
Ron
<20001004103950...@ng-ff1.aol.com>, bsc...@aol.com (BSchnb)
wrote:
>>
>>>You can't mean it.
>>
>>LOL!! Really!
>
>You were treating her post as if she wasn't aware of these facts.
Hmmmmmmmm......do you think the fact that cretin marg posted a version of
events that was dead-assed wrong (as usual) might have something to do with
that? What, are people supposed to read her mindless?
> I was just
>reminding everyone that she is well aware of these facts and more surrounding
>that particular subject.
OK, have it your way. I'll just remind you that if margossipmonger was
aware of the fact Goldman got hooked up with Petrocelli by Marciano of
Guess?, she ws deliberately lying when she claimed Garcetti was responsible.
>Mojay
Are you the fool that operates the Beauty Parlor?
Ron
<20001003225056...@ng-fm1.aol.com>, bsc...@aol.com (BSchnb)
wrote:
Nitwit, if marg-ossipmonger "found the information many moons ago", why the
hell is she claiming Garcetti's responsible now? It's in Petrocelli's book,
Horace, and you can be damn sure "marge" never read that over to the beauty
parlor.
Some women wore Guess? clothes to the trial? That'd be a BLOCKBUSTER....if
the trial had been in Cuba. I hate to break this to you cretin, but if they
don't have gigantic asses, women in general like to blow perfectly good
money on Guess? drawers because they're "in". They make lots and lots of
cash selling them, and I'd be willing to bet they sell more in La-De-Da LA
than they do in Poughkeepsie.
You could look it up.
John Griffin
>>>You can't mean it.
>>
>>LOL!! Really!
>You were treating her post as if she wasn't aware of these facts. I was just
>reminding everyone that she is well aware of these facts and more surrounding
>that particular subject.
>Mojay
Good grief...cretins are dense.
MARG0349
<R_E...@Ireland.com> writes:
>Subject: Re: OJ. Free and in the clear!
>From: Ron <R_E...@Ireland.com>
>Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:27:39 -0500
<Petroman's wisecrack in court
>near the
>> jury:
>> "the jeans I was wearing in court were "GUESS? JEANS", TOO">>
And Guess? Jeans Just happend to be Garcetti's biggest campaign donor,
($225,000 buck a crack), and had an office right in Garcetti's workplace,
exclusivly, for hunting down and prosecuting clothing
counterfeiters.-------not gossip sir, just facts. The phone call came from
Guess ? Jeans friend of Marciano.
Even about who represents who ... the obit for Arthur Groman puts the lie
to petrocelli's spin that he was going it alone ... but we aready know
Petrocelli lies about everything ... he was a shill for the firm that backed
GARCETTI in the LA DA elections and for GUESS JEANS who paid for Garcetti's
election and for the Goldman case ... all because GUESS was under
investigation in LA for its labor practices....
<<
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Arthur Groman, the trial lawyer whose entertainment and
business clients included major Hollywood studios, Howard Hughes, Judy
Garland and Armand Hammer, died Tuesday. He was 84.
Groman had been with the law firm Mitchell, Silberberg & Knupp since 1944.
His most recent well-known client was the Fred Goldman family, in its civil
lawsuit against O.J. Simpson over the slaying of Goldman's son Ron along
with Nicole Brown Simpson.
Groman served on the board of directors of Hammer's Occidental Petroleum
Co., and was secretary of the Armand Hammer Museum. When Hammer faced
federal prosecution in the 1970s for campaign financing violations, Groman
and Washington lawyer Louis Nizer defended him and arranged a guilty plea to
misdemeanors.
Groman's other clients included RKO, Columbia, Paramount and MGM studios,
Norton Simon, Edward G. Robinson, Warren Beatty, Paul Newman, Mick Jagger
and Jack Kent Cooke.>>
marg
missmarple1986
From His Name is Ron: "The same corporate CEO who had recommended Dan
pointed out that the money we had raised for the Ron Goldman Justice
Fund was woefully insufficient. And we knew that the defense would do
everything they could to drive our expenses as high as possible.
With our grateful permission our new friend set up an office inside his
corporate headquarters and called it the Ron Goldman Justice Fund
Room. He established a toll-free telephone number for contributors to
call, placed ads in newspapers across the country, and even allowed
some of his employers to act as volunteers during company time.
Sadly we cannot thank him publicly, for fear that his company might
suffer a backlash from people so short-sighted in their view that
they would boycott a certain brand name."
Petrocelli had no problem naming the GUESS company publicly in his book.
Miss Marple