Didn't anyone see that on Bill Murray's head!?
Volfie999
I the only one who saw that? Where the heck was Dr. Aroni(sp)??
Twibil
>
>
> He had a huge laceration there from diving into the dumpster pool.
By "huge laceration" perhaps you mean the circa 1" scratch above his
right temple? The one that didn't bleed much?
> Am I the only one who saw that?
Well, no, there were several million people watching, as usual.
> Where the heck was Dr. Aroni(sp)??
Fear not: someone came out and treated it during the first break.
When the show came back from commercial the blood was no longer as
visible, and you could tell that something had been sprayed (sponged?)
around the area as it now reflected the stage lights in a way that it
had not done before.
It wasn't an injury up there in a class with the time Buck Henry was
hit by Belushi's sword during a Saturday Night LIve Samurai skit, and
Bill acted oblivious to his injury -as did Buck Henry.
"The show must go on" isn't just a cliche'.
~Pete
R H Draney
>
>It wasn't an injury up there in a class with the time Buck Henry was
>hit by Belushi's sword during a Saturday Night LIve Samurai skit, and
>Bill acted oblivious to his injury -as did Buck Henry.
On that occasion, didn't just about every member of the Not Ready For Prime Time
Players have a bandage later in the same show?...
(Related TV trivia: when they shot the first episode of WKRP In Cincinnatii,
Richard "Les Nessman" Sanders had a bandage on his forehead after bumping into a
studio light...they decided to make it a running gag, and from then on, Les
*always* had a bandage somewhere)....
BTW, how *is* Buck Henry doing these days?...r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Alan Page
"R H Draney" wrote...
> BTW, how *is* Buck Henry doing these days?...r
Last seen on television on "30 Rock" in 2007.
--
Alan
~WWWWW~
What a Wonderful Web We Weave
R H Draney
>
>
>"R H Draney" wrote...
>> BTW, how *is* Buck Henry doing these days?...r
>
> Last seen on television on "30 Rock" in 2007.
When he failed to put in an appearance at Don Adams' well-attended funeral back
in '05 because of "health reasons", I started to worry...(Mel Brooks was absent
too, but he was still in the official mourning period for Anne Bancroft at the
time)....r
Twibil
>
>
> >It wasn't an injury up there in a class with the time Buck Henry was
> >hit by Belushi's sword during a Saturday Night LIve Samurai skit, and
> >Bill acted oblivious to his injury -as did Buck Henry.
>
> On that occasion, didn't just about every member of the Not Ready For Prime Time
> Players have a bandage later in the same show?...
You know, I think you're right! I'd forgotten that part. Good catch.
Dave should have probably done the same.
~Pete
Donz5
Tony Calguire
796671...@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
> He had a huge laceration there from diving into the dumpster pool. Am
> I the only one who saw that? Where the heck was Dr. Aroni(sp)??
I was more alarmed by Bill being so out of breath for so long. He panted
through the entire first segment.
Gor
<noway...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jul 22, 9:15 am, Volfie999 <mooseboys...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> He had a huge laceration there from diving into the dumpster pool.
>
>By "huge laceration" perhaps you mean the circa 1" scratch above his
>right temple? The one that didn't bleed much?
>
>> Am I the only one who saw that?
>
>Well, no, there were several million people watching, as usual.
>
>> Where the heck was Dr. Aroni(sp)??
>
>Fear not: someone came out and treated it during the first break.
>
>When the show came back from commercial the blood was no longer as
>visible, and you could tell that something had been sprayed (sponged?)
>around the area as it now reflected the stage lights in a way that it
>had not done before.
I don't think anyone treated it. I read this thread before seeing
this particular show (had it recorded), and what happened was Bill
kept stroking his forehead front-to-back to get the water to stop
dripping in his face. In that process he sort of smeared the blood
around, blending it with his hair. Once it got to a certain point, it
was no longer actively bleeding and the cut never really seemed to
change its state; the reflectivity with regard to stage lights didn't
really seem to change (except for the fact that he was a little dryer
overall).
It was a very minor cut, and I think most of the blood that was
visible throughout the show was remnant of the initial bleeding.
As far as how he did it, it looked to me like he bumped his head on
the ladder as he was climbing out of the dumpster.
Gor
I noticed that as well. He also seemed to grow increasingly aloof as
the interview went on (maybe due to the head injury, although he
blamed it on a "big lunch"...hehe)
Tom Wolper
The theater is kept at 50-55 degrees F and he sat there dripping wet throughout
the interview. I'd be more likely to think he had some sort of temperature shock
or mild hypothermia rather than a head injury.
Gor
wrote:
That would make sense to me too... there was something about his
demeanor as the interview progressed that left you with the impression
he was thinking the whole dumpster diving gimmick wasn't as good an
idea as he had planned.
Helen Read
It seemed like Dave was trying to get a particular story out of him
(something on the blue cards from the pre-interview), and Bill didn't
quite get what Dave was going for. Dave kept repeating and rephrasing
the question, and it went nowhere.
--
HPR
R H Draney
I often feel, watching Bill in interviews and such, that he wasn't entirely
acting when he played the guy in the "cheeseburger! cheeseburger!" sketch who
didn't speak any English but just kept nodding as if he understood....r
Sally
It's Aronne, I believe, and I think he's there mainly for decorative
purposes.
Ever since he let Dave come out with his eye looking like a
cauliflower because of shingles, and allowed him to "go on with the
show," I decided a potted plant could be the house doctor and do a
better job. The show doesn't have to go on when you're physically
disfigured as badly as Dave was.
I'm just sayin' I was shocked.
Sally
Gor
wrote:
Dave did the show when he had shingles? I remember his extended leave
but I don't remember him coming on the show while he still had them.
Anyone got pics? I missed an important piece of LS history here.
Alan Page
"Gor" wrote...
> Dave did the show when he had shingles? I remember his extended leave
> but I don't remember him coming on the show while he still had them.
He was on for at least a week with his puffy eye.
> Anyone got pics? I missed an important piece of LS history here.
You sure did.
Twibil
>
>
> It's Aronne, I believe, and I think he's there mainly for decorative
> purposes.
>
> Ever since he let Dave come out with his eye looking like a
> cauliflower because of shingles, and allowed him to "go on with the
> show," I decided a potted plant could be the house doctor and do a
> better job. The show doesn't have to go on when you're physically
> disfigured as badly as Dave was.
>
> I'm just sayin' I was shocked.
You misconstrue the doctor's job, Sally. Whatever his name, he has no
power to "let" or "allow" Dave to appear unless Dave is comatose and
cannot make his own decisions.
An in-house doctor is there as an employee: to fix whatever needs
fixing and to give medical advise -if it's asked for. But that's
normally about it.
~Pete
Sally
No, Alan, I remember he was on exactly one night with his eye huge and
swollen, and the next night, Paul guest hosted. No way he was on for a
full week.
S.
Gor
wrote:
>On Jul 23, 4:54 pm, "Alan Page" <alp...@spamsucceed.net> wrote:
Owned!
Sally
I see your point, Pete. Had I been the doctor, however, I would have
wrestled him to the ground before letting him ignore that eye and get
out there.
It would be nice to at least think Dr. Lou gave it a shot. :) I had
horrendous eye problems for a run of 10 years--so I know about serious
eye problems. It was like I was under a curse. I'm just grateful he
got a fast and correct diagnosis, but what he had was really
dangerous. You amuse me when you comment that Dave has to be comatose
to listen to his doctor.
S.
Donz5
Dave hosted on Monday, 2/24/03, and Tuesday, 2/25/03.
Bruce Willis was the last-minute guest-host, not Paul Shaffer, on
Wednesday, February 26, 2003, beginning a month-long series of guest
hosts while Dave recuperated from his shingles. Paul guest-hosted on
March 24.
The guest-host roster during this period:
2/26: Bruce Willis
2/27: John McEnroe
2/28: Regis Philbin
3/10: Whoopi Goldberg
3/11: Vince Vaughn
3/12: Elvis Costello
3/13: Will Ferrell
3/14: Megan Mulally
3/17: Brad Garrett
3/18: Tom Dreesen
3/19: Bonnie Hunt
3/24: Paul Shaffer
3/25: Bill Cosby
3/26: Luke WIlson
Dave returned Monday 3/31.
Alan Page
> > He was on for at least a week with his puffy eye.
"Donz5" wrote...
> Dave hosted on Monday, 2/24/03, and Tuesday, 2/25/03.
I was counting the time it too to fester. Had to be at the end of the
previous week.
I seem to remember that he was afflicted on the Wednesday & Thursday
shows the week before with a remarkable clearing for the Friday broadcast.
Came back on Monday and had his finale on Tuesday.
Can we search those tapes or do I have to do that myself?
Twibil
>
>
> I see your point, Pete. Had I been the doctor, however, I would have
> wrestled him to the ground before letting him ignore that eye and get
> out there.
I've had shingles (oog!), and that makes me suspect that Dave wasn't
"ignoring" his condition. FYO, it's pretty darned difficult to ignore
shingles. Hurts like hell and itches like mad when it's not hurting.
But given Dave's self-admitted hypochondria, I suspect he asked the
Doc if working on stage would aggravate the condition and was told
"No"; so he decided to try toughing it out. The fact that he didn't
come back after that night tells us how well *that* idea worked
out....
> It would be nice to at least think Dr. Lou gave it a shot. :) I had
> horrendous eye problems for a run of 10 years--so I know about serious
> eye problems. It was like I was under a curse. I'm just grateful he
> got a fast and correct diagnosis, but what he had was really
> dangerous.
I know. I was lucky in that my outbreak confined to my back and rib
cage, but five years later I *still* get unpredictable attacks of
shooting pains and violent itching that can last for days.
I felt very put-upon until I read up on shingles and realised how
lucky I'd been to have only a relatively light case that lasted only a
month and only involved my none-too-attractive-anyway epidermis.
> You amuse me when you comment that Dave has to be comatose
> to listen to his doctor.
Welllll, that's not *quite* what I said. Seeing as how he *is* a
hypochondriac, I suspect that in truth Dave actually listens to his
doctors more than do most of us. But recall that we also know that
Dave is both stubborn and determined when he's confronted with a
challenging situation, that there really-and-truly *is* a powerful
show-business tradition of going on with the show if you possibly can,
and that Dave has been in the business for a *long* time.
I think that he just objectively decided to give it his best try,
shingles and all, and quickly discoved that it was a bad idea.
~Pete
Wiseguy
9b7e7f...@p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
advise - verb
advice - noun
Helen Read
> On Jul 23, 9:20 pm, Sally<SallyDr...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I see your point, Pete. Had I been the doctor, however, I would have
>> wrestled him to the ground before letting him ignore that eye and get
>> out there.
>
> I've had shingles (oog!), and that makes me suspect that Dave wasn't
> "ignoring" his condition. FYO, it's pretty darned difficult to ignore
> shingles. Hurts like hell and itches like mad when it's not hurting.
It depends how bad it is. I've had shingles _twice_. The first time, I
was about 5 years old, so I barely remember it. I'm told that the pain
was so bad that they almost gave me morphine for it (but didn't). All I
really remember is that a teenage cousin was painting our house that
summer, and everyone made jokes that I should watch out because Peter
would paint anything with shingles on it.
The second time I had shingles was about 5 years ago. I was on a lot of
meds at the time, including one that was given monthly by injection. One
month the clinic was out of the drug that I usually got, and gave me a
substitute in a different form, a little pellet that was injected under
the skin of the abdomen (I was usually given a thick suspension injected
into the rear end). Soon after that, I developed a nasty rash in a large
band across my abdomen. I thought it was a reaction to the drug, and
just ignored it and went on about my life. (In retrospect, I probably
should have called the nurse, but hey.) I only found out it was shingles
a month later (by which time the rash was nearly gone) when I went in
for my next shot and saw my doctor. My point is, it just wasn't that
bad, and I was completely able to ignore it. It would have had to be a
*lot* worse for me to even consider say, staying home from work.
(Granted, I had just come off chemotherapy and radiation -- and worked
all through all of it -- so shingles was nothing by comparison, but
still, it just wasn't that bad.)
Shingles can be horrendous, but it isn't always so. Dave probably felt
OK enough to work for a while, until it got worse.
--
HPR
Sally
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Kathy Lee Gifford also co-hosted, and Paul hosted the show by himself
immediately after Dave went into seclusion while he started his
recovery. Talk to Paul yourself. I saw him sitting behind the desk.
Whatever you noted, if you leave out Kathy Lee and Paul, your list is
incomplete.
Second, I said he hosted one night with his eye looking like a
carbunkle, not for even ones extra night. I know I'm right on that, no
matter what you have on your computer. Your data may be based on some
other criteria. Not to start a fight, just to compare memories. I
remember Paul hosted, that Kathy Lee (forgive me) hosted, too, and it
was one night of that horrible eye on TV, not two.
S.
Sally
Don't get mad at me for saying this, but you poor baby. To have
shingles and such terrible pain at the age of 5 is very tough. But my
back is now starting to feel funny, so I'd better shut up.
Btw, I have an erroneous bill on my computer desk as I type this, for
$219. for a shingles shot I never got, so I'm gonna have to go to
Walgreen's, which is currently giving preventative shingles shots.
Their computer generated a completely incorrect bill. I didn't take
the shot after all, and if I had, it would've cost me $80, but this is
boring, so I won't go on.
Had a favorite uncle (sad story) named Dave. My uncle Dave lived in
Syracuse, NY and was my favorite "grand-uncle." My mother told me,
briefly, that Uncle Dave had killed himself because he thought he had
cancer. They later found out he had been suffering from shingles, so
I've heard about how terrible the pain can be. Wish Mom had prepared
me better for that bit of news, plus telling me his son found him
hanging in the garage. I was a young adolescent at the time. Terrible
reaction.
Sometimes my mother was a bit on the insensitive side, y'know? You
remember the show "Make Room For Daddy?" Well, in my house, it was
"Don't Make Room For Emotions."
Glad you're feeling well now, Helen,
Sally
Twibil
Twibil
>
>
> Sometimes my mother was a bit on the insensitive side, y'know? You
> remember the show "Make Room For Daddy?" Well, in my house, it was
> "Don't Make Room For Emotions."
Huh! Our moms might be related...
After breaking up with the first real love of my life I began drinking
heavily and -not surprisingly- feeling terribly depressed. Didn't want
to get out of bed in the mornings.
I mentioned this to my mom while taking her out to dinner one evening,
and she replied, "Oh! Your great uncle Paul got depressed once and he
couldn't stop drinking and he took poison and it took him a *week* to
die and he was in such *terrible* agony the whole time......and that's
why we never talk about him!"
Yeah, "insensitive" is good.
~Pete
Donz5
Kathie Lee Gifford guest-hosted (not co-hosted) on February 24, 2000,
during Dave's recovery from his heart surgery. She never guest- (or
co-) hosted again.
Your memory about Paul hosting the show immediately after Dave's
shingles attack is incorrect; it was a month later.
Perhaps you're confusing this with Paul's last-minute guest-hosting
the show on November 3, 2003, just after Harry was born, or January
19, 2005, when Dave was in Deerborn, Michigan to accept the Borg
Warner Team Driver's Trophy for Buddy Rice's Indianapolis 500 win four
months earlier.
Whatever beef you have re what Dave's eye looked like is with Alan,
not my computer.
Wiseguy
624134...@k1g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
Wiseguy - correct
Sally
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes, I did get mixed up with what illness brought forth Kathie Lee,
you are right. It was, as you said, after his heart attack.
I have no beef with your computer. I have no beef with Alan. I had a
beef with Dr. Lou.
But the one person who gives out the beef is the one to blame, for
sure. I'm talking about Dave. He's smart enough to know that toughing
things out is one thing. Repulsing the audience is another. Basing my
experience as an actress, and I've done plenty of acting and acting
study (believe it or not,)--you never go onstage when your face is
wildly out of shape so that the audience has one shocked, sudden
intake of breath. "My God, Linda, what the hell is wrong with him?"
Some hypochondriac. He's no hypochondriac if he let the eye advannce
to the condition it did.. His statements of hypochondria are exactly
as true as are his claims of incompetence on the computer or his lack
of success with the ladies.
Your Honor, may I request a continuance? No?? Well, how 'bout
dismissing the case?
Sally
Sally
Another TV series comes to mind after I read your unbelievable story:
"Mother Doesn't Always Know Best."
Sorry about that, Pete, but it was very nice to hear that you had a
real love, and you got over the heartbreak with time. My sympathies to
you for the rough stuff you went through.
Sally
Steve Curtis
>Basing my experience as an actress, and
>I've done plenty of acting and acting
>study (believe it or not,)--you never go
>onstage when your face is wildly out of
>shape so that the audience has one
>shocked, sudden intake of breath. "My
>God, Linda, what the hell is wrong with
>him?"
Lon Chaney ("man of a thousand faces") never had to worry about that
problem.
R H Draney
Somebody cue Will Lee:
http://members.cox.net/dadoctah/images/cheneychaney.jpg
Dick Cheney...Lon Chaney...more than coincidence?...r
Steve Curtis
>>"Sally" wrote:
>Somebody cue Will Lee:
>http://members.cox.net/dadoctah/images/cheneychaney.jpg
Nope, just two different surnames with the same pronunciation.
Sally
You made me LOL!
Sally
Sally
>
> - Show quoted text -
Really nice catch.
S.
Sally
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wait a minute....what have I said? Cue Will Lee again! My error. The
spelling may be different, but any Veep who wants to turn torture into
legal, recognized American foreign policy deserves to be placed side
by side with a monster, even an actor who plays one.
Sally
Sally