ISRAEL warned US BEFORE the OKC blast & Who is Dan Spiegelman

[Dr. Jai Maharaj]

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Before we get into the warning from Israel the day before the OKC blast this:

In the summer of 1995 a mysterious American named Daniel
Spiegelman was arrested in the Netherlands for trafficking in stolen
diamonds and antiques. In July of 1995 the Janet Reno Justice
Department quietly applied for Spiegelman's extradition to the
United States IN CONNECTION WITH THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. This was
accompanied by representations at the highest level demanding that
the Netherlands courts hear the case in camera and that the
proceedings be kept completely secret.

Through his attorney Spiegelman fought extradition, a Dutch judge
refused to impose secrecy on the hearing, the media got hold of it,
and Janet Reno allegedly withdrew the extradition request, whereupon
the entire bizarre episode vanished from public view. No more media
blackout in the OKC case has been more complete than the blackout
imposed over the name of Daniel Spiegelman; it is as if he has
stepped off the face of the planet.

Who is Daniel Spiegelman? What connection does he have with
Oklahoma City? Is he John Doe Number Two? Does he know who John Doe
Number Two is? More on Spiegelman at bottom of this message.

)From the petition for the writ of mandamus made by the
attorneys for Oklahoma City Bombing defendant Timothy
McVeigh.

D. Israelis Present at the Bomb Site.

The defense has obtained a memorandum of an interview
with a high ranking Israeli security figure. See D.E.
2482 (Exhibit "J"). This memorandum confirms the
following:

1. The source, who aids the Prime Minister on matters of
counterterrorism, confirmed that Israel gave a general
warning to the United States shortly before the bombing.

2. The United States approached Israeli "for
consultations" and advice concerning the bombing.

3. Although Israel suggested that the bombing was not
"Islamically motivated", Israel conceded that the
bombing could have been implemented "borrowed methods"
or could have been inspired by Islamic actions.

Israel in fact sent two experts, accompanied by the
security officer of the Israeli Embassy in Washington,
D.C., to the bomb site.

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5. Israeli authorities were clearly not pleased that
information had leaked of Israeli experts involvement in
evaluating the bomb site.

6. The source, since the bombing, met with his American
counter-part, Phil Wilcoxl9, on a regular basis to
"compare notes."

It is clear in the defense's view that the Israeli
government sent its experts to evaluate the bomb site
with full knowledge of the United States government. It
is also clear in the defense's view that the one page
report submitted by the government is not the complete
report of the two Israeli experts.

Counsel sought and obtained permission from the District
Court to travel to Israel to investigate the presence of
Israeli officials at the bomb site. In order to avoid
drawing attention to counsel's visit, counsel entered
Israel by a tourist bus over the Allenby Bridge (the
King Hussain Bridge) on the West Bank via Damascus and
Amman and, once in Israel, contacted very senior Israeli
political figures in the late Prime Minister Rabin's
government and others who confirmed the presence of
Israeli bomb experts at the Oklahoma City bomb site. The
defense has learned that two weeks after the bombing,
two Israeli officials toured the bomb site in
collaboration with the ATF. D.E. 2191 at 9. Their
conclusion, as outlined in their report to the United
States government, was that the Oklahoma City bomb bore
the

19 Wilcox is the U.S. State Department's coordinator for
terrorism.

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indisputable earmark of Middle Eastern terrorists.20 The
two Israelis are Dorom Bergerbest-Eliom and Yakov (or
Yaskov) Yerushalmi.

Bergerbest-Eliom was, at the time, Chief of Security for
the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C. Yerushalmi was a
civil engineer whom has been described as a "consultant"
to the Israeli government. The undersigned counsel has
confirmed that these two individuals were in fact sent
by Israel and did in fact tour the bomb site. The two
Israelis prepared a report on their observations.
Counsel for Defendant McVeigh has not obtained a copy of
this report but is informed that the report suggests
details of the explosive device and that the bombing is
a "signature" of Middle Eastern terrorists.

E. A Subject of the Investigation in the Philippines.

A subject of the FBI and Grand Jury investigation
("Suspect I") has been linked personally by a Filipino
terrorist to convicted international terrorists Ramzi
Yousef21 and Abdul Hakim Murad22 as well as Philippine
terrorist groups. The defense has learned of

20 The government failed to produce a copy of this
report, or even acknowledge the presence of Israelis in
Oklahoma City--despite defense requests for this
information. See D.E. 2768 at 54; D.E. 1921 (Exhibit "C"
at 16). Instead, a Fort Worth television station
interviewed Moshe Tal and he stated that he was
personally acquainted with the two Israelis who toured
the bomb site, that they had been in Oklahoma City and
he had forwarded a draft of a report to Cristi O'Connor
of Channel 11. Not until this happened did the
government furnish a copy of the report to the defense,
even though the ATF had escorted the two men. The copy
forwarded to the defense does not mention a Middle East
connection to the bombing. The defense believes that the
government has not forwarded a true copy of the entire
report.

21 Ramzi Yousef was convicted in September in New York
City of a conspiracy to blow up 12 American jumbo jets
in one day and he is currently awaiting trial on an
indictment charging him as the "mastermind" of the World
Trade Center bombing.

22 Murad is a co-defendant of Yousef and told the FBI on
April 19, 1995, a Muslim group, the Liberation Army in
the Philippines was responsible for the bombing of the
Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

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evidence suggesting a direct, personal link between a
suspect of the investigation and Ramzi Yousef, the
"mastermind" of the World Trade Center bombing according
to a New York federal grand jury indictment. D.E. 2482
at 1-2. The defense has recently learned, within the
last week, that three FBI agents are in the Philippines
and have contacted the Philippine National Police
Intelligence. The FBI is investigating Yousef's
activities in the Philippines, including reports of
terrorist training in Batansas.

Defense counsel have interviewed in the Philippines a
known terrorist in the custody of the Philippine
government. The purpose of the inquiry was to determine
his knowledge of foreign "mail-to-order bride"
businesses23 and any links between that group and
criminal activity in the Philippines and/or terrorism.
During the course of this interview, (D.E. 2482, Exhibit
"L"), the individual relayed the following:

a. There were definite criminal connections to the
mail-to-order bride business in the Philippines;

b. He was able specifically to identify a photograph of
an individual engaged in smuggling activities;

c. He identified terrorist training as coming from the
International Islamic Academy at Peshawar Pakistan which
has been funded in the past by Saudi Arabia and other
countries;

d. Targets of the Academy are "rich nations in Europe
and Asia and the U.S.";

23 These businesses introduce American males to
Filipinas who are ostensibly "tour guides" for the
visiting foreigners.

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e. The contact between foreign terrorists and local
Muslims was generally initiated when local Muslim
students came to know students from other schools at
various international academies;

f. He stated that Ramzi Yousef is also known as Abdul
Basit and he identified two other members of Ramzi
Yousef's organization including Abdul Hakim Murad, a
codefendant of Ramzi Yousef, who told a security officer
at the detention center in New York that the Liberation
Army was responsible for the bombing in Oklahoma City
(see D.E. 2482 Exhibit "M");

g. He specifically identified J.S., an individual that
the defense has learned knew or knows a subject of the
investigation and has visited in the subject's home in
the Philippines. J.S. has been identified as an arms
dealer for the Moro Liberation Front, a terrorist
organization in the Philippines;

h. He was specifically interrogated as to what other
bombing incidents after New York were attributed to
Muslim terrorists and he specifically cited the bombing
in Oklahoma City and the Saudi Arabia bombings;

I. He also told counsel he knows personally a subject of
the investigation. He met the subject and J.L sometime
in 1992 or 1993 at the vicinity of Del Monte labeling
factory in Davao, Philippines. This was before the New
York City bombing. He (identified in the report as "No.
3") said that the subject introduced himself as a
"farmer." At that time, he said that his companions were
Abdul Basit (Ramzi Yousef), Wali Khan and Abdul Hakim
Murad. They all conferred with J.L and the subject."
Yousef, Khan, and Murad

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were convicted on September 5, 1996, in New York of
conspiracy to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners in a plot
planned in the Philippines;

j. Because the person interviewed (No. 3) identified
himself as knowing that the subject of the investigation
"introduced himself as a farmer," he was asked to reduce
his statement to writing and he did so. A copy of the
written statement is found at D.E. 2482 (Exhibit "N").
His written statement identified three subjects
discussed at the meeting where Ramzi Yousef and the
subject of the investigation among others were present.
These subjects were 1) bombing activities; 2) providing
firearms and ammunition; and 3) training in bomb making
and handling;

k. He was also asked about the statement of Abdul Hakim
Murad that the Oklahoma bombing was the handy work of
the Liberation Army. Mr. Murad was a codefendant to
Ramzi Yousef in the Philippine airline bombing case in
federal court in New York. (Ramzi Yousef was also
charged by separate indictment as the leader of the
attack on the World Trade Center bombing which involved
a Ryder truck carrying a fertilizer bomb). Specifically,
He was asked "What was the identification of Liberation
Army referred to by Murad?" See D.E. 2482 (Exhibit "M").
He stated, according to the interview, "It was the
Palestine Liberation Army and/or the Islamic Jihad which
Murad was referring to. . . . This army is associated
with Hamas and based in Lebanon, he added." Id.

l. He also placed the meeting of the subject and J.L
with Murad and Ramzi Yousef in Davao and noted, "It was
also the place where Muslims were taught in bomb
making." This statement tends to be corroborative of the
truthfulness of the Filipino terrorist because the
defense has interviewed two individuals who claimed that
the subject

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asked them if they knew anyone who made bombs, and one
individual confirmed to a friend of his that the subject
had with him a book on making explosives. See D.E. 2482
(Exhibit "K" at 10, 12);

m. There are a number of factors that indicate that the
Filipino's statement is truthful. First, he has no
reason to lie as he is a cooperating witness with the
Philippine investigation, and there is sufficient
documentation to indicate that he was the co-founder and
second-ranking member in Ramzi Yousef's organization,
Abu Sayyaf. See D.E. 2482 (Exhibits "S" and "M"). His
statement that Muslims were being trained in Pakistan at
a charitable organization through the international
Islamic academy is consistent with the intelligence
information of the Saudi Arabian General that Iraq had
hired Pakistanis who might not know they were actually
operating on behalf of Iraq. The use of an intermediary,
i.e. the International Islamic Academy, and Islamic
charity organizations would certainly disguise the role
of Iraq. See D.E. 2482 (Exhibit "U").

His statement that the United States is a target country
is hardly surprising. The dates that he claims to have
seen the subject of the investigation are consistent
with the subject being in the Philippines (see D.E. 2482
(Exhibit "V')), and his statement that the subject
identified himself as a "farmer" is likewise
corroborative. Perhaps most important the fact that he
saw them near a place where Muslims make bombs is
consistent with statements by other witnesses who claim
that the subject had a book on bomb making with him and
wanted to know how or where he could find someone that
knew how to make bombs. See D.E. 2482 at 25. In
addition, the Filipino identified correctly Yousef's
real name as Abdul Basit. See D.E. 2482 (Exhibit "W").

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Finally, the arrest of McVeigh and Nichols is not
necessarily inconsistent with this report. The district
court has correctly summarized in the past that the
defense theory is that once McVeigh was arrested, the
government ceased pursuing an international connection
because the arrest of McVeigh, and later Nichols, would
seem to preclude a foreign involvement. However,
material the defensne [sic] has submitted to the
district court, indicates that there is a relationship
between neo-Nazis in this country and foreign terrorist
groups in Iraq and the Philippines. Moreover, the
subject's actions as articulated at D.E. 2482 (Exhibit
"AA") are entirely consistent with his seeking to find
assistance in the Philippines on how to make a bomb.

The fact that Murad, while in custody, is a co-defendant
and a close associate of the alleged ringleader of the
bombing on the World Trade Center (and not incidently
[sic] also the federal building in Manhattan) were a
Ryder truck was used to carry a fertilizer bomb is also
highly relevant. The materials also indicate that
terrorist groups in the Philippines have been trained in
Pakistan, and that some of these same Pakistanis fought
in Afghanistan. See D.E. 2482 (Exhibit "X").

The revelations by the New York Times that the FBI was
pulling out of the investigation in Saudi Arabia because
of lack of cooperation by the Saudi government further
tends to support this intelligence information. See D.E.
2482 (Exhibit "Y"); see also Exhibit "Z" (discussing the
anti-American climate in Saudi Arabia). The Saudis would
be greatly embarrassed if it should develop that either
directly or indirectly they have been financing a
training area of terrorists in Pakistan, which may have
led to deaths of Americans, or they may simply fear that
they will be upsetting Iran or Iraq if the finger of

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suspicion of the investigation should point specifically
to those two governments. The important point is these
reports from the Philippines inferentially support the
Saudi intelligence report.

The arrest warrant of Abraham Ahmad as a material
witness makes reference to three Middle Eastern men
running from the Murrah building shortly after the
explosion. See D.E. 2482 (Exhibit "EE" at 1). Several
eye witnesses, including the next to last survivor
pulled from the wreckage, have identified an "olive
complected" dark haired man (variously described as
Middle Eastern, Indian, Hawaiian) as being the driver
and/or occupant of a Ryder truck shortly before the
explosion and seen outside the Murrah Building. The FBI
authorized an All Points Bulletin ("APB"), which was
broadcast on police radio, seeking information about a
full-size brown pickup truck occupied by Middle Eastern
males. See D.E. 2406 (Exhibit "C").

The subject of the investigation was present in the
Philippines in November, 1994 until January, 1995.
During this same period of time, Ramzi Yousef was also
in the Philippines. See D.E. 2763 at 22. Yousef and two
co-defendants, Abdul Hakim Murad and Wali Khan Amin
Shah, were convicted on September 5, 1996 in New York
City with conspiring to blow up eleven (11) United
States jetliners. Yousef is generally regarded as the
mastermind behind the World Trade Center bombing and the
government plans to try him for that crime. Id. at 15.

Vince Cannistraro, the former Chief of Counterterrorism
for the CIA (D.E. 2406 (Exhibit "B")), authored an
article which appeared in The Boston Globe in April of
1995, suggesting the probability of foreign terrorist
involvement, particularly Iraq, in the Oklahoma

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City bombing, while observing its similarity to the
World Trade Center bombing. Cannistraro wrote, "Yousef
had carefully prepared his escape, leaving under another
name from New York the evening of the bombing. He
abandoned his comrades to the police. If the Oklahoma
bombing follows the same pattern, the foreign sponsors
will have covered their trail carefully, leaving only
the support cells of local adherents to face the
prosecutor." D.E. 2406 at 3.

Ramzi Yousef was a Pakistani terrorist based in the
Philippines. D.E. 2763 at 15-16. The Philippines is also
the base camp for the Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG). Id. Abu
Sayyaf consists of between 500 and 600 fighters and is
funded by radical Middle Eastern Muslims. D.E. 2191 at
21; see general) D.E. 2763. ASG was formed in 1991 and
is based on the Philippine island of Mindanao, which is
a largely Muslim region which has been for all intents
and purposes at war with the Philippines for regional
autonomy. Abu Sayyaf has been linked to an international
terrorist cell which is alleged to have plotted the
assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II when he
visited the Philippines in January, 1995. Ramzi Yousef
made contact with the Abu Sayyaf Group in the
Philippines through his "Afghan connections." Id.

It has been reported reliably by Jane's Intelligence
Review, a highly respected source for intelligence
information, that "by all accounts, [Yousef] had
ambitious plans to intensify his own Jihad against the
U.S.A." In addition to the plot to assassinate the Pope,
Yousef and his team, together with Abu Sayyaf support,
were planning to attack the U.S. Embassy and other
facilities throughout Asia. The bombing of Philippine
Airlines Flight 434 on

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December 11, 1994 was simply a "test run" to smuggle a
bomb through the Manila Airport. Id.

Abu Sayyaf's funding includes support from Muslim
billionaires in the Persian Gulf including Osama bin
Laden. Id.; see also D.E. 2763 at 17. Arab intelligence
sources report that Osama bin Laden's funding of Islamic
terrorist groups is "considerable" and is conducted
through several companies he owns in Africa, Europe and
the Arab world. During the Afghan War, bin Laden was a
"driving force" behind recruiting young Muslim zealots
to join the Mujhedeen and he operated out of the
northwest frontier province of Pakistan along the
Afghanistan border. Bin Laden became a close associate
of Sheikh Omar Abdullah Rahman, the blind Egyptian
cleric who has been tried in New York and whom U.S.
authorities believe is a kingpin in an international
Islamic terrorist network. Id.

In February, 1995, United States authority named bin
Laden and his Saudi brother-in-law, Mohammed Jamal
Khalifa, among 172 unindicted co-conspirators with the
eleven (11) Muslims charged for the World Trade Center
bombing and the associated plot to blow up other New
York landmarks. At the time Khalifa was linked to the
World Trade Center bombing, he was already in prison in
San Francisco because his visa was revoked on the
grounds that he had failed to disclose when he obtained
it in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia and that he was wanted in
Jordan for a series of bombings carried out in Amman in
1993. Incredibly, Khalifa's presence in California went
unnoticed until Abu Sayyaf attacked the Christian town
of Ipil in April, 1995. Id. Philippine intelligence
documents indicate that Khalifa, who had at one time ran
a Muslim religious center in the Philippines, was linked

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to Islamic organizations in a number of countries,
including Iraq and Jordan. Khalifa was deported to
Jordan and was cleared of all charges. Id. at 22.

While the brother-in-law of one of the financier's of
Abu Sayyaf was being deported by the Americans after
spending time in solitary confinement in a prison in San
Francisco, one of Ramzi Yousef's co-defendants, Abdullah
Hakim Murad, then on trial in New York City for
conspiracy to blow up American airliners, readily
admitted to a prison guard that he was a member of the
Liberation Army, and that the Liberation Army was
responsible for the bombing of the Murrah Building in
Oklahoma City. Id. at 22-23.

The prison guard had asked Hakim Murad what he thought
about the bombing when it was reported on the radio,
and, according to a FBI 302, Murad responded to the
guard's question by stating that the Liberation Army was
responsible for the bombing and, a short time later,
confirmed in writing that the Liberation Army was
responsible for the bombing of the Murrah Building in
Oklahoma City. Id.

The manager of the Great Western Inn at Grandview Plaza,
Kansas, told the FBI that he observed the composite
sketches of John Doe #1 and #2 when they were released,
and stated that one of the sketches looked like a man
who had checked into the motel on Monday, April 17, 1995
or Tuesday, April 18, 1995, the same time Tim McVeigh
was staying at the Dreamland Motel. According to Mistry,
the man was driving a Ryder rental truck which he parked
in front of the motel and the man reminded Mistry of a
"Moslem" and had a Middle Eastern accent. Mistry advised
the FBI that the composite sketch of John Doe #2 "looked
just like the man he described as having checked into
the Great Western Inn on April 17, 1995 or April 18,
1995." D.E. 2191 at 23.

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===== More on Spiegelman

Subject: Re: OKC Bombing Suspect Arrested in Holland
From: mc...@qns.com (Michael Carpenter)
Date: 1996/01/03
Message-Id: <30ea12e9...@ion2.ionet.net>
Newsgroups:
alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.org.fbi,alt.politics.org.batf,alt.activism
[More Headers]

I tried to respond to this message the other night, but the news
spooler was full. In any event, here's some more recent stuff re:
Spiegelman.

Daniel Spiegelman, aka Daniel Kikabidze (this spelling is
correct), aka William Taylor, aka Andreas Kessler, aka Craig
Wesley Hesseltine, was arrested in June after he allegedly tried
to sell documents stolen from the manuscript library of Columbia
University in October of 1994. The documents ranged from medieval
European manuscripts to a 12th century copy of the Koran to
Thomas Edison's handwritten patent applications. (An inventory of
the stolen documents is on the WWW... try an AltaVista search if
you're interested, because I've lost the URL.)

DOJ says he has a prior conviction for forging government
documents.

Spiegelman is being held in the Netherlands' maximum security
prison after he allegedly tried to escape from a lower security
prison earlier in the year.

He's trying to stop extradition to the U.S. to face charges. The
extradition, on charges pertaining to the manuscript theft and
unlawful possession of firearms after a felony conviction, has
already been approved by a Dutch court, and is on appeal.

The Justice Department says Spiegelman used the Craig Hesseltine
alias to purchase six pistols in Phoenix and Scottsdale, Arizona
in September, 1994. DOJ says it has no information linking
Spiegelman to the OKC bombing.

But Spiegelman claims a visitor from an FBI office in Brussels
advised him November 21 that he was considered a suspect in the
bombing, and that a list of names of people previously identified
as suspects had been found in either a safe in his New York
apartment, or in safety deposit box in his name. The agent's name
was Joe Smith. One of our reporters found Joe Smith by phone in
Brussels, but he declined to comment.

The Netherlands does not have the death penalty, and will not
extradite suspects who face capital punishment in other
countries. Both prosecutors and defense attorneys have speculated
Moscowicz is using the Murrah bombing link to block his client's
return to the U.S.

But as Stephen Jones told me yesterday, "It's rather unusual for
an attorney to claim his client killed 169 people if he didn't do
it."

We're trying to locate people in this country who may know more
about Spiegelman and his past.

Michael Carpenter-------------------------------------------------
KWTV, Oklahoma City
mc...@qns.com / mc...@ionet.net / mc...@well.com
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