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Chive Mynde

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The Last Days of Legal Cannabis

As you now know, the industrial revolution of the 19th Century was a setback for
hemp in world commerce, due to the lack of mechanized harvesting and breaking
technology needed for mass production. But this natural resource was far too
valuable to be relegated to the back burner of history for very long.

By 1916, USDA Bulletin 404 predicted that a decorticating and harvesting machine
would be developed, and hemp would again be America's largest agricultural
industry. In 1938, magazines such as Popular Mechanics, and Mechanical
Engineering introduced a new generation of investors to fully operational hemp
decorticating devices; bringing us to this next bit of history. Because of this
machine, both indicated that hemp would soon be America's number-one crop!

Breakthrough in Papermaking

If hemp were legally cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the
single largest agricultural crop in the United States and world today!

(Popular Mechanics February 1938; Mechanical Engineering, February, 1938; U.S.
Department of Agriculture Reports 1903, 1910, 1913.)

In fact, when the preceding two articles were prepared early in 1937, hemp was
still legal to grow. And these who predicted billions of dollars in new cannabis
businesses did not consider income from medicines, energy (fuel) and food, which
would now add another trillion dollars or more annually to our coming "natural"
economy (compared to our synthetic, environmentally troubled economy).
Relaxational smoking would add only a relatively minor amount to this figure.

The most important reason that the 1938 magazine articles projected billions in
new income was hemp for "pulp paper" (as opposed to fiber or rag paper). Other
reasons were for its fiber, seed and many other pulp uses.

This remarkable new hemp pulp technology for papermaking was invented in 1916 by
our own U.S. Department of Agriculture chief scientists, botanist Lyster Dewey
and chemist Jason Merrill.

This technology, coupled with the breakthrough of G.W.Schlichten's decorticating
machine, patented in 1917, made hemp a viable paper source at less than half the
cost of tree-pulp paper. The new harvesting machinery, along with Schlichten's
machine, brought the processing of hemp down from 200 to 300 man-hours per acre
to just a couple of hours.* Twenty years later, advancing technology and the
building of new access roads made hemp even more valuable. Unfortunately, by
then, opposition forces had gathered steam and acted quickly to suppress hemp
cultivation.

*See Appendix I.

A Plan to Save Our Forests

Some cannabis plant strains regularly reach tree-like heights of 20 feet or more
in one growing season.

The new paper making process used hemp "hurds" - 77 percent of the hemp stalk's
weight - which was then a wasted by-product of the fiber stripping process.

In 1916, USDA Bulletin No. 404 reported that one acre of cannabis hemp, in
annual rotation over a 20-year period, would produce as much pulp for paper as
4.1 acres of trees being cut down over the same 20-year period. This process
would use only 1/7 to 1/4 as much polluting sulfur-based acid chemicals to break
down the glue-like lignin that binds the fibers of the pulp, or even none at all
using soda ash. All this lignin must be broken down to make pulp. Hemp pulp is
only 4-10 percent lignin, while trees are 18-30 percent lignin. The problem of
dioxin contamination of rivers is avoided in the hemp papermaking process, which
does not need to use chlorine bleach (as the wood pulp papermaking process
requires), but instead substitutes safer hydrogen peroxide in the bleaching
process.

Thus, hemp provides four times as much pulp with at lest four to seven times
less pollution.

As we have seen, this hemp pulp paper potential depended on the invention and
the engineering of new machines for stripping the hemp by modern technology.
This would also lower demand for lumber and reduce the cost of housing while at
the same time helping re-oxygenate the planet.1

As an example: If the new (1916) hemp pulp paper process were in use legally
today, it would soon replace about 70 percent of all wood pulp paper, including
computer, printout paper, corrugated boxes and paper bags.

Pulp paper made from 60-100 percent hemp hurds is stronger and more flexible
than paper made from wood pulp. Making paper from wood pulp damages the
environment. Hemp papermaking does not.

(Dewey & Merrill, Bulletin #404, USDA, 1916; New Scientist, 1980; Kimberly Clark
production from its giant French hemp-fiber paper subsidiary De Mauduit, 1937
through 1984.)

Conservation & Source Reduction

Reduction of the source of pollution, usually from manufacturing with
petrochemicals or their derivatives, is a cost-cutting waste control method
often called for by environmentalists.

Whether the source of pollution is CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons) from
refrigeration, spray cans, computers, tritium and plutonium produced for
military uses, or the sulfuric acids used by papermakers, the goal is reducing
the source of pollution.

In the supermarket when you are asked to choose paper or plastic for your bags,
you are faced with an environmental dilemma; paper from trees that were cut, or
plastic bags made from fossil fuel and chemicals could choose a biodegradable,
durable paper from an annually renewable source - the cannabis hemp plant.

The environmental advantages of harvesting hemp annually - leaving the trees in
the ground! - for papermaking, and for replacing fossil fuels as an energy
source, have become crucial for the source reduction of pollution.

A Conspiracy to Wipe Out the Natural Competition

In the mid-1930s, when the new mechanical hemp fiber stripping machines and
machines to conserve hemp's high-cellulose pulp finally became state-of-the-art,
available and affordable, the enormous timber acreage and businesses of the
Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division, Kimberly Clark (USA), St. Regis - and
virtually all other timber, paper and large newspaper holding companies - stood
to lose billions of dollars and perhaps go bankrupt.

Coincidentally, in 1937, DuPont had just patented processes for making plastics
from oil and coal, as well as a new sulfate/sulfite process for making paper
from wood pulp. According to DuPont's own corporate records and historians,*
these processes accounted for over 80 percent of all the company's railroad
carloadings over the next 60 years into the 1990s.

*Author's research and communications with DuPont, 1985-1996.

If hemp had not been made illegal, 80 percent of DuPont's business would never
have materialized and the great majority of the pollution which has poisoned our
Northwestern and Southeastern rivers would not have occurred.

In an open marketplace, hemp would have saved the majority of America's vital
family farms and would probably have boosted their numbers, despite the Great
Depression of the 1930s.

But competing against environmentally-sane hemp paper and natural plastic
technology would have jeopardized the lucrative financial schemes of Hearst,
DuPont and DuPont's chief financial backer, Andrew Mellon of the Mellon Bank of
Pittsburgh.

"Social Reorganization"

A series of secret meetings were held.

In 1931, Mellon, in his role as Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury, appointed
his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to be head of the newly
reorganized Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs (FBNDD), a post he
held for the next 31 years.

These industrial barons and financiers knew that machinery to cut, bale,
decorticate (separate the fiber from the high-cellulose hurd), and process hemp
into paper or plastics was becoming available in the mid-1930s. Cannabis hemp
would have to go.

In DuPont's 1937 Annual Report to its stockholders, the company strongly urged
continued investment in its new, but not readily accepted, petrochemical
synthetic products. DuPont was anticipating "radical changes" from "the revenue
raising power of government. . . converted into an instrument for forcing
acceptance of sudden new ideas of industrial and social reorganization."*

*(DuPont Company, annual report, 1937, our emphasis added.)

In the Marijuana Conviction (University of Virginia Press, 1974), Richard Bonnie
and Charles Whitebread II detailed this process:

"By the fall of 1936, Herman Oliphant (general counsel to the Treasury
Department) had decided to employ the taxing power [of the federal government],
but in a statute modeled after the National Firearms Act and wholly unrelated to
the 1914 Harrison [narcotics] Act. Oliphant himself was in charge of preparing
the bill. Anslinger directed his army to turn its campaign toward Washington.

"The key departure of the marijuana tax scheme from that of the Harrison Act is
the notion of the prohibitive tax. Under the Harrison Act, a non-medical user
could not legitimately buy or possess narcotics. To the dissenters in the
Supreme Court decisions upholding the act, this clearly demonstrated that
Congress' motive was to prohibit conduct rather than raise revenue. So in the
National Firearms Act, designed to prohibit traffic in machine guns, Congress
'permitted' anyone to buy a machine gun, but required him to pay a $200 transfer
tax* and carry out the purchase on an order form.

"The Firearms Act, passed in June 1934, was the first act to hide Congress'
motives behind a prohibitive tax. The Supreme Court unanimously upheld the
anti-machine gun law on March 29, 1937. Oliphant had undoubtedly been awaiting
the Court's decision, and the Treasury Department introduced its marihuana tax
bill two weeks later, April 14, 1937."

Thus, DuPont's** decision to invest in new technologies based on "forcing
acceptance of sudden new ideas of industrial and social reorganization" makes
sense.

* About $5,000 in 1998 dollars.

** It's interesting to note that on April 29, 1937, two weeks after the
Marihuana Tax Act was introduced, DuPont's foremost scientist, Wallace Hume
Carothers, the inventor of nylon for DuPont, the world's number one organic
chemist, committed suicide by drinking cyanide. Carothers was dead at age 41. .
.

A Question of Motive

DuPont's plans were alluded to during the 1937 Senate hearings by Matt Rens, of
Rens Hemp Company:

Mr. Rens: Such a tax would put all small producers out of the business of
growing hemp, and the proportion of small producers is considerable. . . The
real purpose of this bill is not to raise money, is it?

Senator Brown: Well, we're sticking to the proposition that it is.

Mr. Rens: It will cost a million.

Senator Brown: Thank you. (Witness dismissed.)

Hearst, His Hatred and Hysterical Lies

Concern about the effects of hemp smoke had already led to two major
governmental studies. The British governor of India released the Report of the
Indian Hemp Drugs Commission 1893-1894 on heavy bhang smokers in the
subcontinent.

And in 1930, the U.S. government sponsored the Siler Commission study on the
effects of off-duty smoking of marijuana by American servicemen in Panama. Both
reports concluded that marijuana was not a problem and recommended that no
criminal penalties apply to its use.

In early 1937, Assistant U.S. Surgeon General Walter Treadway told the Cannabis
Advisory Subcommittee of the League of Nations that, "It may be taken for a
relatively long time without social or emotional breakdown. Marihuana is
habit-forming. . . in the same sense as. . . sugar or coffee."

But other forces were at work. The war fury that led to the Spanish American War
in 1898 was ignited by William Randolph Hearst, through his nationwide chain of
newspapers, and marked the beginning of "yellow journalism"* as a force in
American politics.

* Webster's Dictionary defines "yellow journalism" as the use of cheaply
sensational or unscrupulous methods in newspapers and other media to attract or
influence the readers.

In the 1920s and '30s, Hearst's newspapers deliberately manufactured a new
threat to America and a new yellow journalism campaign to have hemp outlawed.
For example, a story of a car accident in which a "marijuana cigarette" was
found would dominate the headlines for weeks, while alcohol related car
accidents (which outnumbered marijuana connected accidents by more than 10,000
to 1) made only the back pages.

This same theme of marijuana leading to car accidents was burned into the minds
of Americans over and over again the in late 1930s by showing marijuana related
car accident headlines in movies such as "Reefer Madness" and "Marijuana -
Assassin of Youth."

Blatant Bigotry

Starting with the 1898 Spanish American War, the Hearst newspaper had denounced
Spaniards, Mexican-Americans and Latinos.

After the seizure of 800,000 acres of Hearst's prime Mexican timberland by the
"marihuana" smoking army of Pancho Villa,* these slurs intensified.

*The song "La Cucaracha" tells the story of one of Villa's men looking for his
stash of "marijuana por fumar!" (to smoke!)

Non-stop for the next three decades, Hearst painted a picture of the lazy,
pot-smoking Mexican - still one of our most insidious prejudices.
Simultaneously, he waged a similar racist smear campaign against the Chinese,
referring to them as the "Yellow Peril."

From 1910 to 1920, Hearst's newspapers would claim that the majority of
incidents in which blacks were said to have raped white women, could be traced
directly to cocaine. This continued for ten years until Hearst decided it was
not "cocaine-crazed Negroes" raping white women - it was now "marijuana-crazed
Negroes" raping white women.

Hearst's and other sensationalistic tabloids ran hysterical headlines atop
stories portraying "Negroes" and Mexicans as frenzied beasts who, under the
influence of marijuana, would play anti-white "voodoo-satanic" music (jazz) and
heap disrespect and "viciousness" upon the predominantly white readership. Other
such offenses resulting from this drug-induced "crime wave" included: stepping
on white men's shadows, looking white people directly in the eye for three
seconds or more, looking at a white woman twice, laughing at a white person,
etc.

For such "crimes", hundreds of thousands of Mexicans and blacks spent, in
aggregate, millions of years in jails, prisons and on chain gangs, under brutal
segregation laws that remained in effect throughout the U.S. until the 1950s and
'60s. Hearst, through pervasive and repetitive use, pounded the obscure Mexican
slang word "marijuana" into the English-speaking American consciousness.
Meanwhile, the word "hem" was discarded and "cannabis," the scientific term, was
ignored and buried.

The actual Spanish word for hemp is "canamo." But using a Mexican "Sonoran"
colloquialism - marijuana, often Americanized as "marihuana" - guaranteed that
few would realize that the proper terms for one of the chief natural medicines,
"cannabis," and for the premiere industrial resource, "hemp," had been pushed
out of the language.

The Prohibitive Marijuana Tax

In the secret Treasury Department meetings conducted between 1935 and 1937,
prohibitive tax laws were drafted and strategies plotted. "Marijuana" was not
banned outright; the law called for an "occupational excise tax upon dealers,
and a transfer tax upon dealings in marijuana."

Importers, manufacturers, sellers and distributors were required to register
with the Secretary of the Treasury and pay the occupational tax. Transfers were
taxed at $1 an ounce; $100 an ounce if the dealer was unregistered. The new tax
doubled the price of the legal "raw drug" cannabis which at the time sold for
one dollar an ounce.2 The year was 1937. New York State had exactly one
narcotics officer.*

* New York currently has a network of thousands of narcotics officers, agents,
spies and paid informants - and 20 times the penal capacity it had in 1937,
although the state's population has only doubled since then.

After the Supreme Court decision of March 29, 1937, upholding the prohibition of
machine guns through taxation, Herman Oliphant made his move. On April 14, 1937
he introduced the bill directly to the House Ways and Means Committee instead of
to other appropriate committees such as food and drug, agriculture, textiles,
commerce, etc.

His reason may have been that "Ways and Means" is the only committee that can
send its bills directly to the House floor without being subject to debate by
other committees. Ways and Means Chairman Robert L. Doughton,* a key DuPont
ally, quickly rubber-stamped the secret Treasury bill and sent it sailing
through Congress to the President.

* Colby Jerry, The DuPont Dynasties, Lyle Stewart, 1984.

"Did Anyone Consult the AMA?"

However, even within his controlled Committee hearings, many expert witnesses
spoke out against the passage of these unusual tax laws.

Dr. William G. Woodward, for instance, who was both a physician and an attorney
for the American Medical Association, testified on behalf of the AMA.

He said, in effect, the entire fabric of federal testimony was tabloid
sensationalism! No real testimony had been heard! This law, passed in ignorance,
could possibly deny the world a potential medicine, especially now that the
medical world was just beginning to find which ingredients in cannabis were
active.

Woodward told the committee that the only reason the AMA hadn't come out against
the marijuana tax law sooner was that marijuana had been described in the press
for 20 years as "killer weed from Mexico."

The AMA doctors had just realized "two days before" these spring 1937 hearings,
that the plant Congress intended to outlaw was known medically as cannabis, the
benign substance used in America with perfect safety in scores of illnesses for
over one hundred years.

"We cannot understand yet, Mr. Chairman," Woodward protested, "why this bill
should have been prepared in secret for two years without any intimation, even
to the profession, that it was being prepared." He and the AMA" were quickly
denounced by Anslinger and the entire congressional committee, and curtly
excused.3

*The AMA and the Roosevelt Administration were strong antagonists in 1937.

When the Marijuana Tax Act bill came up for oral report, discussion, and vote on
the floor of Congress, only one pertinent question was asked from the floor:
"Did anyone consult with the AMA and get their opinion?"

Representative Vinson, answering for the Ways and Means Committee replied, "Yes,
we have. A Dr. Wharton [mistaken pronunciation of Woodward?] and {the AMA} are
in complete agreement!"

With this memorable lie, the bill passed, and became law in December 1937.
Federal and state police forces were created, which have incarcerated hundreds
of thousands of Americans, adding up to more than 14 million wasted years in
jails and prisons - even contributing to their deaths - all for the sake of
poisonous, polluting industries, prison guard unions and to reinforce some white
politicians' policies of racial hatred.

(Mikuriya, Tod, M.C., Marijuana Medical Papers, 1972; Sloman, Larry, Reefer
Madness, Grove Press, 1979; Lindsmith, Alfred, The Addict and the Law, Indiana
U. Press; Bonnie & Whitebread; The Marijuana Conviction, U. of VA Press; U.S.
Cong. Records; et al.)

Others Spoke Out, Too

Also lobbying against the Tax Act with all its energy was the National Oil Seed
Institute, representing the high-quality machine lubrication producers, as well
as paint manufacturers. Speaking to the House Ways and Means Committee in 1937,
their general counsel, Ralph Loziers, testified eloquently about the hempseed
oil that was to be, in effect, outlawed:

"Respectable authorities tell us that in the Orient, at least 200 million people
use this drug; and when we take into consideration that for hundreds, yes,
thousands of years, practically that number of people have been using this drug.
It is significant that in Asia and elsewhere in the Orient, where poverty stalks
abroad on every hand and where they draw on all the plant resources which a
bountiful nature has given that domain - it is significant that none of those
200 million people has ever, since the dawn of civilization, been found using
the seed of this plant or using the oil as a drug.

"Now, if there were any deleterious properties or principles in the seed or oil,
it is reasonable to suppose that these Orientals, who have been reaching out in
their poverty for something that would satisfy their morbid appetite, would have
discovered it. . .

"If the committee please, the hempseed, or the seed of the cannabis sativa l.,
is used in all the Oriental nations and also in a part of Russia as food. It is
grown in their fields and used as oatmeal. Millions of people every day are
using hempseed in the Orient as food. They have been doing that for many
generations, especially in periods of famine. . . The point I make is this -
that this bill is too all inclusive. This bill is a world encircling measure.
This bill brings the activities - the crushing of this great industry under the
supervision of a bureau - which may mean its suppression. Last year, there was
imported into the U.S. 62,813,000 pounds of hempseed. In 1935 there was imported
116 million pounds. . ."

Protecting Special Interests

As the AMA's Dr. Woodward had asserted, the government's testimony before
Congress in 1937 had in fact consisted almost entirely of Hearst's and other
sensational and racist newspaper articles read aloud by Harry J. Anslinger,*
director of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics (FBN). (This agency has since
evolved into the Drug Enforcement Administration [DEA]).

*Harry J. Anslinger was director of the new Federal Bureau of Narcotics from its
inception in 1931 for the next 31 years, and was only forced into retirement in
1962 by President John F. Kennedy after Anslinger tried to censor the
publications and publishers of Professor Alfred Lindsmith (The Addict and the
Law, Washington Post, 1961) and to blackmail and harass his employer, Indiana
University. Anslinger had come under attack for racist remarks as early as 1934
by a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, Joseph Guffey, for such things as referring
to "ginger-colored niggers" in letters circulated to his department heads on FBN
stationery.

Prior to 1931, Anslinger was Assistant U.S. Commissioner for Prohibition.
Anslinger, remember, was hand-picked to head the new Federal Bureau of Narcotics
by his uncle-in-law, Andrew Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury under President
Herbert Hoover. The same Andrew Mellon was also the owner and largest
stockholder of the sixth largest bank (in 1937) in the United States, the Mellon
Bank in Pittsburgh, one of only two bankers for DuPont* from 1928 to the
present.

* DuPont has borrowed money from banks only twice in its entire 190-year
history, once to buy control of General Motors in the 1920s. Its banking
business is the prestigious plum of the financial world.

In 1937, Anslinger testified before Congress saying, "Marijuana is the most
violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

This, along with Anslinger's outrageous racist statements and beliefs, was made
to the southern dominated congressional committee and is now an embarrassment to
read in its entirety.

For instance, Anslinger kept a "Gore File," culled almost entirely from Hearst
and other sensational tabloids - e.g., stories of axe murders, where one of the
participants reportedly smoked a joint four days before committing the crime.

Anslinger pushed on Congress as a factual statement that about 50% of all
violent crimes committed in the U.S. were committed by Spaniards,
Mexican-Americans, Latin Americans, Filipinos, African-Americans and Greeks, and
these crimes could be traced directly to marijuana.

(From Anslinger's own records given to Pennsylvania State University, ref.; Li
Cata Murders, etc.)

Not one of Anslinger's marijuana "Gore Files" of the 1930s is believed to be
true by scholars who have painstakingly checked the facts.4

Self-Perpetuating Lies

In fact, FBI statistics, had Anslinger bothered to check, showed at least 65-75%
of all murders in the U.S. were then - and still are - alcohol related. As an
example of his racist statements, Anslinger read into U.S. Congressional
testimony (without objection) stories about "coloreds" with big lips, luring
white women with jazz music and marijuana.

He read an account of two black students at the University of Minnesota doing
this to a white coed "with the result of pregnancy." The congressmen of 1937
gasped at this and at the fact that this drug seemingly caused white women to
touch or even look at a "Negro."

Virtually no one in America other than a handful of rich industrialists and
their hired cops knew that their chief potential competitor - hemp - was being
outlawed under the name "marijuana."

That's right. Marijuana was most likely just a pretext for hemp prohibition and
economic suppression.

The water was further muddied by the confusion of marijuana with "loco weed"
(Jimson Weed). The situation was not clarified by the press, which continued to
print the misinformation into the 1960s.

At the dawn of the 1990s, the most extravagant and ridiculous attacks on the
hemp plant drew national media attention - such as a study widely reported by
health journals* in 1989 that claimed marijuana smokers put on about a half a
pound of weight per day. Now in 1998, they just want to duck the issue.

*American Health, July/August 1989.

Meanwhile, serious discussions of the health, civil liberties and economic
aspects of the hemp issue are frequently dismissed as being nothing but an
"excuse so that people can smoke pot" - as if people need an excuse to state the
facts about any matter.

One must concede that, as a tactic, lying to the public about the beneficial
nature of hemp and confusing them as to its relationship with "marijuana" has
been very successful.

http://www.jackherer.com/book/ch04.html

Help Wanted: Psychic. You know where to apply.

Ass Torkleson

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Chive Mynde <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> The Last Days of Legal Cannabis
>
Hey, give STIFFY29 a break. He really only has two faults - everything he
says and everything he does.


Charlie Wilkes

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On 17 May 2001 22:48:38 -0700, Chive Mynde <chyve...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

>The Last Days of Legal Cannabis
>
>As you now know, the industrial revolution of the 19th Century was a setback for
>hemp in world commerce, due to the lack of mechanized harvesting and breaking
>technology needed for mass production. But this natural resource was far too
>valuable to be relegated to the back burner of history for very long.
>
>By 1916, USDA Bulletin 404 predicted that a decorticating and harvesting machine
>would be developed, and hemp would again be America's largest agricultural
>industry. In 1938, magazines such as Popular Mechanics, and Mechanical
>Engineering introduced a new generation of investors to fully operational hemp
>decorticating devices; bringing us to this next bit of history. Because of this
>machine, both indicated that hemp would soon be America's number-one crop!
>
>Breakthrough in Papermaking
>
>If hemp were legally cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the
>single largest agricultural crop in the United States and world today!

Chyves, you pig. You're proof that potheads are just another bunch of
monocropping agri-facists after all.

Yes, But others attain a height of three to six feet, and are the ones
of primary interest. They are the ones that grow nice, fat
goobro-licious buds, with a bit of purple on the tips and a rich
dusting of sparkle all around. I've heard all about it.

You stoners make me sick.

Charlie


Charlie Wilkes

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May 18, 2001, 3:14:45 AM5/18/01
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Stop passin' gas, Ass. Smith favors good clean livin', that's all. I
agree with him.

Charlie

Jim W.

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May 18, 2001, 11:17:47 AM5/18/01
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"Chive Mynde" took one huge hit and then exhaled:

> The Last Days of Legal Cannabis

<one-sided history lesson deleted>

You seem to love writing and lecturing. Why don't you spend some time being
productive with those skills, rather than trying to change the opinion of
55% of US citizens who will never agree with you? And get a real name while
you're at it.


Jim W.

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"Ass Torkleson" <number_1_ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Wrong. But even if it were true, it's still a step up from your world.


Chive Mynde

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May 18, 2001, 3:11:35 PM5/18/01
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No, you're both morons.

If you had bothered to read the actual post before posting, you
would have noticed that "good clean living" is the entire reason
why Herer and others encourage the agricultural production of
Hemp (not enought THC to get high with, fool) in order to replace
most of the polluting chemical and paper pulp industries, moron.

You really are dumb.

- Chive

Chive Mynde

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May 18, 2001, 3:13:36 PM5/18/01
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What makes me SICK is the fact that you *choose* to be ignorant.

You cannot get *stoned* from Hemp, moron!

How many times must you be told this, idiot?

- Chive

SMITH29

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May 18, 2001, 8:45:33 PM5/18/01
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xxxx
Every once in a while we get a weed poster like you.
You try to sell people on hemp for commerce so you can grow the illegal
stuff
without attracting attention since it looks like any other hemp plant.
We are supposed to be naive enough to support your cause which really is
laughable.

I really do pity the people that get into the drug scene. It's so
pathetic and
hopeless. The damage to society and country are devastating. They might
as well
put two sticks of dynamite in there mouth and light the fuses.
Such a waste of humanity is a sin.
It's for sure you will never amount to anything but at least you will
have your bong to ease the pain of poverty.
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SMITH29

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May 18, 2001, 10:02:15 PM5/18/01
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Chive Mynde wroted
:

> What makes me SICK is the fact that you *choose* to be ignorant.
>
> You cannot get *stoned* from Hemp, moron!
>
> How many times must you be told this, idiot?
>
> - Chive

xxxx
snicker
29

SMITH29

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xxx
Dang!!! That was a real knee slapper......
29

Chive Mynde

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May 18, 2001, 11:28:21 PM5/18/01
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I am not a 'weed' poster. I don't even do drugs. What I am,
is an individual who is interested in facts and evidence, two
things you simply don't understand. Your own comments reveal
someone who is more interested in propaganda than facts and
evidence. You were debunked months ago when you tried spouting
lies then, and you are being debunked now, for spouting the
same lies, over and over again. You were corrected then,
and you have been corrected now.

>You try to sell people on hemp for commerce so you can grow the illegal
>stuff
>without attracting attention since it looks like any other hemp plant.

Another SMITH29 lie.

>We are supposed to be naive enough to support your cause which really is
>laughable.

Another SMITH29 lie.

>I really do pity the people that get into the drug scene.

Another SMITH29 lie.

>It's so
>pathetic and
>hopeless.

Yes, your continued evasions of truth, facts, evidence, and
statistics *are* pathetic and hopeless.

> The damage to society and country are devastating.

Yes, they are. So why haven't you commented on it?

Here, I'll help you:

In any one year:


27,000 Americans commit suicide.

5,000 attempt suicide; some estimates are higher.

26,000 die from fatal accidents in the home.

23,000 are murdered.

85,000 are wounded by firearms.

38,000 of these die, including 2,600 children.

13,000,000 are victims of crimes including assault, rape, armed
robbery, burglary, larceny, and arson.

135,000 children take guns to school.

5,500,000 people are arrested for all offenses (not including traffic
violations).

125,000 die prematurely of alcohol abuse.

473,000 die prematurely from tobacco-related illnesses; 53,000 of these
are nonsmokers.

6,500,000 use heroin, crack, speed, PCP, cocaine or some other hard
drug on a regular basis.

5,000+ die from illicit drug use. Thousands suffer serious
debilitations.

1,000+ die from sniffing household substances found under the kitchen
sink. About 20 percent of all eighth-graders have "huffed" toxic
substances. Thousands suffer permanent neurological damage.

31,450,000 use marijuana; 3,000,000 of whom are heavy usuers.

37,000,000, or one out of every six Americans, regularly use emotion
controlling medical drugs. The users are mostly women. The pushers are
doctors; the suppliers are pharmaceutical companies; the profits are
stupendous.

2,000,000 nonhospitalized persons are given powerful mind-control
drugs, sometimes described as "chemical straitjackets."

5,000 die from psychoactive drug treatments.

200,000 are subjected to electric shock treatments that are injurious
to the brain and nervous system.

600 to 1,000 are lobotomized, mostly women.

25,000,000, or one out of every 10 Americans, seek help from
psychiatric, psychotherapeutic, or medical sources for mental and
emotional problems, at a cost of over $4 billion annually.

6,800,000 turn to nonmedical services, such as ministers, welfare
agencies, and social counselors for help with emotional troubles. In
all, some 80,000,000 have sought some kind of psychological counseling
in their lifetimes.

1,300,000 suffer some kind of injury related to treatment at hospitals.
2,000,000 undergo unnecessary surgical operations; 10,000 of whom die
from the surgery.

180,000 die from adverse reactions to all medical treatments, more than
are killed by airline and automobile accidents combined.

14,000+ die from overdoses of legal prescription drugs.

45,000 are killed in auto accidents. Yet more cars and highways are
being built while funding for safer forms of mass transportation is
reduced.

1,800,000 sustain nonfatal injuries from auto accidents; but 150,000 of
these auto injury victims suffer permanent impairments.

126,000 children are born with a major birth defect, mostly due to
insufficient prenatal care, nutritional deficiency, environmental
toxicity, or maternal drug addiction.

2,900,000 children are reportedly subjected to serious neglect or
abuse, including physical torture and deliberate starvation.
5,000 children are killed by parents or grandparents.

30,000 or more children are left permanently physically disabled from
abuse and neglect. Child abuse in the United States afflicts more
children each year than leukemia, automobile accidents, and infectious
diseases combined. With growing unemployment, incidents of abuse by
jobless parents is increasing dramatically.

1,000,000 children run away from home, mostly because of abusive
treatment, including sexual abuse, from parents and other adults. Of
the many sexually abused children among runaways, 83 percent come from
white families.

150,000 children are reported missing.

50,000 of these simply vanish. Their ages range from one year to mid-
teens. According to the New York Times, "Some of these are dead,
perhaps half of the John and Jane Does annually buried in this country
are unidentified kids."

900,000 children, some as young as seven years old, are engaged in
child labor in the United States, serving as underpaid farm hands,
dishwashers, laundry workers, and domestics for as long as ten hours a
day in violation of child labor laws.

2,000,000 to 4,000,00 women are battered. Domestic violence is the
single largest cause of injury and second largest cause of death to
U.S. women.

700,000 women are raped, one every 45 seconds.

5,000,000 workers are injured on the job; 150,000 of whom suffer
permanent work-related disabilities, including maiming, paralysis,
impaired vision, damaged hearing, and sterility.

100,000 become seriously ill from work-related diseases, including
black lung, brown lung, cancer, and tuberculosis.

14,000 are killed on the job; about 90 percent are men.

100,000 die prematurely from work-related diseases.

60,000 are killed by toxic environmental pollutants or contaminants in
food, water, or air.

4,000 die from eating contaminated meat.

20,000 others suffer from poisoning by E.coli 0157-H7, the mutant
bacteria found in contaminated meat that generally leads to lifelong
physical and mental health problems. A more thorough meat inspection
with new technologies could eliminate most instances of contamination--
so would vegetarianism.

At present:

5,100,000 are behind bars or on probation or parole; 2,700,000 of these
are either locked up in county, state or federal prisons or under legal
supervision. Each week 1,600 more people go to jail than leave. The
prison population has skyrocketed over 200 percent since 1980. Over 40
percent of inmates are jailed on nonviolent drug related crimes.
African Americans constitute 13 percent of drug users but 35 percent of
drug arrests, 55 percent of drug convictions and 74 percent of prison
sentences. For nondrug offenses, African Americans get prison terms
that average about 10 percent longer than Caucasians for similar
crimes.

15,000+ have tuberculosis, with the numbers growing rapidly; 10,000,000
or more carry the tuberculosis bacilli, with large numbers among the
economically deprived or addicted.

10,000,000 people have serious drinking problems; alcoholism is on the
rise.

16,000,000 have diabetes, up from 11,000,000 in 1983 as Americans get
more sedentary and sugar addicted. Left untreated, diabetes can lead to
blindness, kidney failure and nerve damage.

160,000 will die from diabetes this year.

280,000 are institutionalized for mental illness or mental retardation.
Many of these are forced into taking heavy doses of mind control drugs.
255,000 mentally ill or retarded have been summarily released in recent
years. Many of the "deinstitutionalized" are now in flophouses or
wandering the streets.

3,000,000 or more suffer cerebral and physical handicaps including
paralysis, deafness, blindness, and lesser disabilities. A
disproportionate number of them are poor. Many of these disabilities
could have been corrected with early treatment or prevented with better
living conditions.

2,400,000 million suffer from some variety of seriously incapacitating
chronic fatigue syndrome.

10,000,000+ suffer from symptomatic asthma, an increase of 145 percent
from 1990 to 1995, largely due to the increasingly polluted quality of
the air we breathe.

40,000,000 or more are without health insurance or protection from
catastrophic illness.

1,800,000 elderly who live with their families are subjected to serious
abuse such as forced confinement, underfeeding, and beatings. The
mistreatment of elderly people by their children and other close
relatives grows dramatically as economic conditions worsen.
1,126,000 of the elderly live in nursing homes. A large but
undetermined number endure conditions of extreme neglect, filth, and
abuse in homes that are run with an eye to extracting the highest
possible profit.

1,000,000 or more children are kept in orphanages, reformatories, and
adult prisons. Most have been arrested for minor transgressions or have
committed no crime at all and are jailed without due process. Most are
from impoverished backgrounds. Many are subjected to beatings, sexual
assault, prolonged solitary confinement, mind control drugs, and in
some cases psychosurgery.

1,000,000 are estimated to have AIDS as of 1996; over 250,000 have died
of that disease.

950,000 school children are treated with powerful mind control drugs
for "hyperactivity" every year--with side effects like weight loss,
growth retardation and acute psychosis.

4,000,000 children are growing up with unattended learning
disabilities.

4,500,000+ children, or more than half of the 9,000,000 children on
welfare, suffer from malnutrition. Many of these suffer brain damage
caused by prenatal and infant malnourishment.

40,000,000 persons, or one of every four women and more than one of
every ten men, are estimated to have been sexually molested as
children, most often between the ages of 9 and 12, usually by close
relatives or family acquaintances. Such abuse almost always extends
into their early teens and is a part of their continual memory and not
a product of memory retrieval in therapy.

7,000,000 to 12,000,000 are unemployed; numbers vary with the business
cycle. Increasing numbers of the chronically unemployed show signs of
stress and emotional depression.

6,000,000 are in "contingent" jobs, or jobs structured to last only
temporarily. About 60 percent of these would prefer permanent
employment.

15,000,000 or more are part-time or reduced-time "contract" workers who
need full-time jobs and who work without benefits.

3,000,000 additional workers are unemployed but uncounted because their
unemployment benefits have run out, or they never qualified for
benefits, or they have given up looking for work, or they joined the
armed forces because they were unable to find work.

80,000,000 live on incomes estimated by the U.S. Department of Labor as
below a "comfortable adequacy"; 35,000,000 of these live below the
poverty level.

12,000,000 of those at poverty's rock bottom suffer from chronic hunger
and malnutrition. The majority of the people living at or below the
poverty level experience hunger during some portion of the year.
2,000,000 or more are homeless, forced to live on the streets or in
makeshift shelters.

160,000,000+ are members of households that are in debt, a sharp
increase from the 100 million of less than a decade ago. A majority
indicate they have borrowed money not for luxuries but for necessities.
Mounting debts threaten a financial crack-up in more and more families.
A Happy Nation?

Obviously these estimates include massive duplications. Many of the 20
million unemployed are among the 35 million below the poverty level.
Many of the malnourished children are also among those listed as
growing up with untreated learning disabilities and almost all are
among the 35 million poor. Many of the 37 million regular users of mind-
control drugs also number among the 25 million who seek psychiatric
help.

Some of these deprivations and afflictions are not as serious as
others. The 80 million living below the "comfortably adequate" income
level may compose too vague and inclusive a category for some observers
(who themselves enjoy a greater distance from the poverty line). The 40
million who are without health insurance are not afflicted by an actual
catastrophe but face only a potential one (though the absence of health
insurance often leads to a lack of care and eventually a serious health
crisis). We might not want to consider the 5.5 million arrested as
having endured a serious affliction, but what of the 1.5 million who
are serving time and what of their victims? We might want to count only
the 150,000 who suffer a serious job-related disability rather than the
five million on-the-job injuries, only half of the 20 million
unemployed and underemployed so as not to duplicate poverty figures,
only 10 percent of the 1.1 million institutionalized elderly as
mistreated (although the number is probably higher), only 10 per cent
of the 37 million regular users of medically prescribed psychogenic
drugs as seriously troubled, only 5 per cent of the 160 million living
in indebted families as seriously indebted (although the number is
probably higher).

If we consider only those who have endured physical or sexual abuse, or
have been afflicted with a serious disability, or a serious deprivation
such as malnutrition and homelessness, only those who face untimely
deaths due to suicide, murder, battering, drug and alcohol abuse,
industrial and motor vehicle accidents, medical (mis)treatment,
occupational illness, and sexually transmitted diseases, we are still
left with a staggering figure of over 19,000,000 victims. To put the
matter in some perspective, in the 12 years that saw 58,000 Americans
killed in Vietnam, several million died prematurely within the United
States from unnatural and often violent causes.

Official bromides to the contrary, we are faced with a hidden
holocaust, a social pathology of staggering dimensions. Furthermore,
the above figures do not tell the whole story. In almost every category
an unknown number of persons go unreported. For instance, the official
tabulation of 35 million living in poverty is based on census data that
undercount transients, homeless people, and those living in remote
rural and crowded inner-city areas. Also, the designated poverty line
is set at an unrealistically low income level and takes insufficient
account of how inflation especially affects the basics of food, fuel,
housing, and health care that consume such a disproportionate chunk of
lower incomes. Some economists estimate that actually as many as 46
million live in conditions of acute economic want.

Left uncounted are the more than two thousand yearly deaths in the U.S.
military due to training and transportation accidents, and the many
murders and suicides in civilian life that are incorrectly judged as
deaths from natural causes, along with the premature deaths from cancer
caused by radioactive and other carcinogenic materials in the
environment. Almost all cancer deaths are now thought to be from human-
made causes.

Fatality figures do not include the people who are incapacitated and
sickened from the one thousand potentially toxic additional chemicals
that industry releases into the environment each year, and who die
years later but still prematurely. At present there are at least 51,000
industrial toxic dump sites across the country that pose potentially
serious health hazards to communities, farmlands, water tables, and
livestock. One government study has concluded that the air we breathe,
the water we drink, and the food we eat are now perhaps the leading
causes of death in the United States.

AND GUESS WHAT, YOU FUCKING MORON?

NOT ONE DEATH HAS BEEN CAUSED BY HEMP/CANNABIS!

NOT ONE!

>They might
>as well
>put two sticks of dynamite in there mouth and light the fuses.

Why, so we can end up like you? No thanks.

>Such a waste of humanity is a sin.

Yes, such a waste of environmental resources is a sin.

Legalize Hemp/Cannabis.

>It's for sure you will never amount to anything but at least you will
>have your bong to ease the pain of poverty.
>29

I don't use drugs, as you have been repeatedly informed, but
I have amounted to much more than you ever will, already.

Come on SMITH29, you can do better than this.

How about posting some bogus statistics like you usually do?

That will give me more time to shoot you down, again.

HTH.

Chive Mynde

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What's even funnier is how ignorant you really are.

- Chive

Chive Mynde

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May 18, 2001, 11:41:06 PM5/18/01
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You think its funny to lie, distort, deceive, and promote
propaganda?

Oh, that's right, you know exactly what you're doing and why.

SMITH29

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Chive Mynde wrote:

blather deleted

One thing is certain, The 29 knows how to yank yer chain!!
snicker,
YerPal,
The29

Safe as Milk

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In article <9e3s9...@drn.newsguy.com>, Chive Mynde
<chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 May 2001 03:12:03 -0400, in article
> <rai9gtc0o1ks54ne9...@4ax.com>, Charlie wrote:
> >
> >On 17 May 2001 22:48:38 -0700, Chive Mynde <chyve...@my-deja.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>The Last Days of Legal Cannabis
> >>
> >>As you now know, the industrial revolution of the 19th Century was a
> >>setback for
> >>hemp in world commerce, due to the lack of mechanized harvesting and

snip...


> >>in one growing season.
> >>
> >Yes, But others attain a height of three to six feet, and are the ones
> >of primary interest. They are the ones that grow nice, fat
> >goobro-licious buds, with a bit of purple on the tips and a rich
> >dusting of sparkle all around. I've heard all about it.
> >
> >You stoners make me sick.
> >
> >Charlie
>
> What makes me SICK is the fact that you *choose* to be ignorant.
>
> You cannot get *stoned* from Hemp, moron!
>
> How many times must you be told this, idiot?
>
> - Chive

Hey Chive. You're being baited. In this case, ignorance is not bliss.
Ignorance is calculated. If your opponents were interested in hearing
what you have to say, they'd tell you. Otherwise, it's off to the bait
shop for more colorful wigglers.

E.K.

--
Visit PS Mueller's cartoon site.
http://www.psmueller.com

DrPostman

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May 19, 2001, 1:21:39 PM5/19/01
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On Fri, 18 May 2001 03:14:45 -0400, Charlie Wilkes
<charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:


>Stop passin' gas, Ass. Smith favors good clean livin', that's all. I
>agree with him.
>
>Charlie


As long as that includes the drug alcohol, right?

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Rule 1: Don't tell people everything you know."
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SMITH29

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May 19, 2001, 4:43:08 PM5/19/01
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DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2001 03:14:45 -0400, Charlie Wilkes
> <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
>
> >Stop passin' gas, Ass. Smith favors good clean livin', that's all. I
> >agree with him.
> >
> >Charlie
>
> As long as that includes the drug alcohol, right?
xxx
Wrong!
29

Ass Torkleson

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May 19, 2001, 4:52:02 PM5/19/01
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SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
news:3B06DB26...@home.com...

> >
> > As long as that includes the drug alcohol, right?
> xxx
> Wrong!
> 29

LOL! You are crazy, aren't you? ROTFLMAO!


Richard Neuschaefer

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May 19, 2001, 6:44:09 PM5/19/01
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Hey Smitty,

Got a tip on this punk that couriers dope from Ashville NC to Atlanta. High
grade "dank weed" sticky with resin. $50k in cash! Every Tuesday. Drives
a souped-up Honda Prelude with a fancy spoiler.
The kid packs a Mossberg Defender with a pistol grip. A road stop on I85
would work, ala "The Usual Suspects"

Know anything that'll crack the engine block on a Honda?

Just an idea.............

Rich

SMITH29

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May 20, 2001, 12:37:22 AM5/20/01
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xxxxx
Hornady makes a solid in .44 @ 300 gr. that will hole the fender, tire
and the alum. block and maybe make it out the other side as well. Honda
is thin wall technology to the nines. With the right angle a person
might be able to get the driver in the line of fire as well.

We have deer and elk season, why not dealer season where the government
pays a hunter
$10,000 a head dead or alive for active dealers no questions asked.

Just an idea.............

29

SMITH29

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May 20, 2001, 12:47:41 AM5/20/01
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xxxx
No Mr. Torkleson.. Go to the store and see the booze for sale. THAT'S
reality..
Now pull your head out of your ass and deal with it.
If you and Postie can't face reality, get a room together and work it
out.
And we don't want to know the messy details either.
29

DrPostman

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May 20, 2001, 12:51:38 AM5/20/01
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So, you finally got treatment for your alcohol addiction.

DrPostman

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May 20, 2001, 12:52:24 AM5/20/01
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And how many doctors do you hit up for your scripts till you get
enough?

SMITH29

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May 20, 2001, 1:08:16 AM5/20/01
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DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2001 04:47:41 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >Ass Torkleson wrote:
> >>
> >> SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3B06DB26...@home.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > As long as that includes the drug alcohol, right?
> >> > xxx
> >> > Wrong!
> >> > 29
> >>
> >> LOL! You are crazy, aren't you? ROTFLMAO!
> >
> >xxxx
> >No Mr. Torkleson.. Go to the store and see the booze for sale. THAT'S
> >reality..
> >Now pull your head out of your ass and deal with it.
> >If you and Postie can't face reality, get a room together and work it
> >out.
> >And we don't want to know the messy details either.
> >29
>
> And how many doctors do you hit up for your scripts till you get
> enough?
xxx
Yeah right.
29

SMITH29

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May 20, 2001, 1:09:31 AM5/20/01
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DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Sat, 19 May 2001 20:43:08 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >DrPostman wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 18 May 2001 03:14:45 -0400, Charlie Wilkes
> >> <charlie...@easynews.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Stop passin' gas, Ass. Smith favors good clean livin', that's all. I
> >> >agree with him.
> >> >
> >> >Charlie
> >>
> >> As long as that includes the drug alcohol, right?
> >xxx
> >Wrong!
> >29
>
> So, you finally got treatment for your alcohol addiction.
>
xxx
No, why do you ask?
29

DrPostman

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May 20, 2001, 3:10:42 AM5/20/01
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Then don't lose hope.

SMITH29

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May 20, 2001, 4:03:03 AM5/20/01
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DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2001 05:09:31 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >DrPostman wrote:
> >> So, you finally got treatment for your alcohol addiction.
> >>
> >xxx
> >No, why do you ask?
> >29
>
> Then don't lose hope.
>
xxxx
Go in peace.
29

DrPostman

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May 20, 2001, 12:00:32 PM5/20/01
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On Sun, 20 May 2001 08:03:03 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:

>DrPostman wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2001 05:09:31 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>>
>> >DrPostman wrote:
>> >> So, you finally got treatment for your alcohol addiction.
>> >>
>> >xxx
>> >No, why do you ask?
>> >29
>>
>> Then don't lose hope.
>>
>xxxx
>Go in peace.
>29

My bathroom is a temple of peace.

Buffalo Chilkat

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May 20, 2001, 1:34:20 PM5/20/01
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DrPostman wrote:

> My bathroom is a temple of peace.

And you are a Head Priest.


.S.

SMITH29

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May 20, 2001, 2:33:12 PM5/20/01
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DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2001 08:03:03 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >DrPostman wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 20 May 2001 05:09:31 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >DrPostman wrote:
> >> >> So, you finally got treatment for your alcohol addiction.
> >> >>
> >> >xxx
> >> >No, why do you ask?
> >> >29
> >>
> >> Then don't lose hope.
> >>
> >xxxx
> >Go in peace.
> >29
>
> My bathroom is a temple of peace.
>
xxx
Complete with throne, to each his own.
29;-)

SMITH29

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May 20, 2001, 2:33:54 PM5/20/01
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xxx
Cute!
29

DrPostman

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Regularly dropping a sermon.

DrPostman

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On Sun, 20 May 2001 18:33:12 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:


>Complete with throne, to each his own.
>29;-)


Back in the bad old days I did a LOT of
praying there. Most of my prayers had
to do with the yelling out of the name
Ralph.

Free

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May 24, 2001, 5:14:22 AM5/24/01
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DrPostman wrote in message ...

>On Sun, 20 May 2001 18:33:12 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Complete with throne, to each his own.
>>29;-)
>
>
>Back in the bad old days I did a LOT of
>praying there. Most of my prayers had
>to do with the yelling out of the name
>Ralph.
>

AA humor! You can't beat it.
(The earth is littered with these burnouts)


DrPostman

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Wrong "A", putz.

Free

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DrPostman wrote in message <8p0qgtcleesvmmm9g...@4ax.com>...

>On Thu, 24 May 2001 09:14:22 GMT, "Free" <nos...@deadend.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>DrPostman wrote in message ...
>>>On Sun, 20 May 2001 18:33:12 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Complete with throne, to each his own.
>>>>29;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>Back in the bad old days I did a LOT of
>>>praying there. Most of my prayers had
>>>to do with the yelling out of the name
>>>Ralph.
>>>
>>
>>AA humor! You can't beat it.
>>(The earth is littered with these burnouts)
>>
>
>
>Wrong "A", putz.

Butt I did meen Alkoholic A-Holes.


DrPostman

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On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:20:58 GMT, "Free" <nos...@deadend.com> wrote:


>Butt I did meen Alkoholic A-Holes.
>


I'm not in your fellowship.

Free

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DrPostman wrote in message <6oorgts30l6mrffqm...@4ax.com>...

>On Thu, 24 May 2001 20:20:58 GMT, "Free" <nos...@deadend.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Butt I did meen Alkoholic A-Holes.
>>
>
>
>I'm not in your fellowship.


Until yu can get the membership fee togetur just staple yursulf shut at both
ends.
That shuud hold you four a w hile


DrPostman

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On Fri, 25 May 2001 06:27:14 GMT, "Free" <nos...@deadend.com> wrote:


>>I'm not in your fellowship.
>
>
>Until yu can get the membership fee togetur just staple yursulf shut at both
>ends.
>That shuud hold you four a w hile
>


The price you pay is too high.

Major Margaret Houlihan

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In article <l%4N6.2179$rA2.3...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca>, Ass Torkleson
<number_1_ric...@hotmail.com> wrote:

-> Chive Mynde <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
-> news:9e2d3...@drn.newsguy.com...
-> > The Last Days of Legal Cannabis
-> >
-> Hey, give STIFFY29 a break. He really only has two faults - everything he
-> says and everything he does.

He may be a delusional lunatic, but he's OUR delusional lunatic, and we
need to keep him around in case we run out of WD-40 when Iggie runs
nekkid through the newsgroup.

--
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SMITH29

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May 25, 2001, 8:40:36 PM5/25/01
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Major Margaret Houlihan wrote:
>
> In article <l%4N6.2179$rA2.3...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca>, Ass Torkleson
> <number_1_ric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> -> Chive Mynde <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> -> news:9e2d3...@drn.newsguy.com...
> -> > The Last Days of Legal Cannabis
> -> >
> -> Hey, give STIFFY29 a break. He really only has two faults - everything he
> -> says and everything he does.
>
> He may be a delusional lunatic, but he's OUR delusional lunatic, and we
> need to keep him around in case we run out of WD-40 when Iggie runs
> nekkid through the newsgroup.
>
> --
> Hotlipz "Puritan wench" Houlihan BsD, BFD, LMAO, ULC, ZOG
>
xxxx
Gosh Hotlipz, My WD-40 tricks seem to hit home with you.
Yeah, the left wing contingent around her don't think much of my drug
policy. It would probably get a few of them injected. And I don't mean
"fuel".
I can tell the anemic limp wristed sweaty stinkin bong suckers just by
the response when I air my desire to have the penalty for dealing the
death sentence. Too harsh for their
temperament and health.
This is what I get for clean livin and I love it.
I love money not weed.
YerPal,
The29

Free

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DrPostman wrote in message ...
>On Fri, 25 May 2001 06:27:14 GMT, "Free" <nos...@deadend.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>I'm not in your fellowship.
>>
>>
>>Until yu can get the membership fee togetur just staple yursulf shut at
both
>>ends.
>>That shuud hold you four a w hile
>>
>
>
>The price you pay is too high.
>


I got plenty of Rupees


Chive Mynde

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May 26, 2001, 1:40:26 AM5/26/01
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Agent Smith, it just so happens that *legal" pharmaceuticals
kill more people *yearly* than any illegal drug.

And I suppose, you make alot of money from pharmaceutical drug
investments.

Welcome to reality, Agent Smith.

YOU are the drug dealer.

- Chive

You will be discombobulated.
Resistance is futile.

R Sumner

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May 26, 2001, 11:32:28 AM5/26/01
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Smitty can't help it. He's so conflicted between his desire to see Dubya oil
butt buddies prosper and his financial inability to pay for $3 gas for the 15
year old SUV. Drug therapy would help, but his HMO at the Burger Hut dropped
the benefit and, at minimum wage, he is overqualified for the free clinic.

His only hope is that a tornado will waste the trailer and he and Jimbo can
qualify for government cheese.

SMITH29

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May 26, 2001, 12:17:41 PM5/26/01
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xxxx
That's the best you can do, bong sucker?
You need help.
29

J.P.R. Jenkins

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May 26, 2001, 3:46:33 PM5/26/01
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R Sumner wrote:

As amazing as it seems, Smitty seems to be pretty well off financially. He has a
successful medical equipment service business, (Baffles me as to why somebody in
that business would be afraid of cutting medical costs, it would mean more
machine maintenance, and less replacement).

I don't think you can apply the same white trash insults to Smitty, that you
could to Jimbo, or his silver spoon fed, and the never/rarely employed, Captain
Dickless.


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the CIA ... -- John F Kennedy

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lawful political activities of individual Americans and groups to
discredit them, using dangerous and degrading tactics which are abhorrent in a
free and decent society .... The sustained use of such tactics by
the FBI in an attempt to destroy Dr Martin Luther King Jr, violated the law and
fundamental human decency. -- Church Committee


SmartOne

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May 26, 2001, 4:26:35 PM5/26/01
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>As amazing as it seems, Smitty seems to be pretty well off financially. He
>has a
>successful medical equipment service business, (Baffles me as to why somebody
>in
>that business would be afraid of cutting medical costs, it would mean more
>machine maintenance, and less replacement).
>

That explains much - but for the bible thumpers, the small business owners
would be the most extreme of the right. Seems they always have a view they are
totally self made and the government only hinders them. Let's see - medical
equipment - no benefit there from medicare, medicaid, etc. Everyone is at the
trough. Many just won't admit it.

Chive Mynde

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May 26, 2001, 6:41:08 PM5/26/01
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On 26 May 2001 20:26:35 GMT, in article

It's much, much, much, worse that this.

Smitty makes his money off of *legal* drug dealers, aka pharmaceutical
companies.

Without the subsidies, entitlements, and kickbacks from the government,
Smitty would be 'spanging for spare change in the streets.

HTH.

J.P.R. Jenkins

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May 26, 2001, 7:50:44 PM5/26/01
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SmartOne wrote:

Very true, Smitty would be much poorer if it weren't for all the people on
Medicare, and Medicaid who use various medical facilities at government expense.

R Sumner

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May 26, 2001, 9:00:30 PM5/26/01
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>Smitty makes his money off of *legal* drug dealers, aka pharmaceutical
>companies.

Oh, a real drug pimp.

SMITH29

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May 26, 2001, 10:37:10 PM5/26/01
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xxx
Not only are you of low capability, you don't know anything either. I'm
gonna leave it that way too.
The29;-)

SMITH29

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May 26, 2001, 10:39:41 PM5/26/01
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xxxx
Hopped up Cadillac too!!
Neener,
The 29

Richard Neuschaefer

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May 26, 2001, 11:42:41 PM5/26/01
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SmartOne <

>
> That explains much - but for the bible thumpers, the small business owners
> would be the most extreme of the right. Seems they always have a view
they are
> totally self made and the government only hinders them.


Typical of someone who has never met a payroll. Bullshit paperwork takes
TIME. That is the most valuable quantity. Each employee costs $8/hour
BEFORE they receive one penny to their pocket. Why? Regulatory bullshit.
That is real money that could be used to generate more wealth.

Would you like a $320 a week raise?


--

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your
side, kid."

xman Charlie

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May 26, 2001, 10:57:33 PM5/26/01
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I just thought I drop in in say .... hello....

xman Charlie

"Free" <nos...@deadend.com> wrote in message
news:I%FP6.44$IZ5.273...@news.onr.com...

Free

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An X Man, huh? What are you now?

xman Charlie wrote in message <9epqd...@enews2.newsguy.com>...

R Sumner

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May 27, 2001, 8:03:04 AM5/27/01
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>Hopped up Cadillac too!!
>Neener,
>The 29

Cadillac. How Republican. Most druggies go for something with a little more
style and engineering. That's the real problem with America - too many people
like the soft, mushy ride.

R Sumner

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May 27, 2001, 8:05:17 AM5/27/01
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>Typical of someone who has never met a payroll. Bullshit paperwork takes
>TIME. That is the most valuable quantity. Each employee costs $8/hour
>BEFORE they receive one penny to their pocket. Why? Regulatory bullshit.

Whine, Whine, Whine. The only people who whine more than small business types
are the farmers who complain about lack of subsidies on the way to deposit the
checks they get for not growing anything.

SMITH29

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May 27, 2001, 12:05:26 PM5/27/01
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xxx
You don't know very much about cars.
29

R Sumner

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May 27, 2001, 12:48:20 PM5/27/01
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>You don't know very much about cars.
>29

Actually, I do. While the STS has some redeeming values, the rest of the line
is gas guzzling crap.

Cap'n TrVth

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May 27, 2001, 1:57:30 PM5/27/01
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"R Sumner" <rsu...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20010527124820...@ng-ci1.aol.com...

Sumner is a 17 year old red-headed stepchild, -lives with his mommy and
never steps outside for fear of neighborhood bullies.

Nice websearch on the STS just the same dipshit.
Did your Mommy have to use the AOL keyword to get that for ya?

-You're excused now.

PS: Stop interupting the adults.

-Cap


R Sumner

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May 27, 2001, 2:08:27 PM5/27/01
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>Sumner is a 17 year old red-headed stepchild, -lives with his mommy and
>never steps outside for fear of neighborhood bullies.
>
>Nice websearch on the STS just the same dipshit.
>Did your Mommy have to use the AOL keyword to get that for ya?
>
>-You're excused now.
>
>PS: Stop interupting the adults.
>
>-Cap
>
Crunch, Crunch, Crunch. Is there no end to your moronic attempts at insult.
We've been through the AOL thing before - find new material - or at least
consider the irony of a hotmail user dumping on an AOL user. I'm well over
17, though, based upon Cadillac owner demos, probably much younger than Smitty,
and my momma lives 250 miles away. As for neighborhood bullies - around here
we banish them all to trailer parks and other redneck enclaves where they can
listen to Rush on AM truck radios and otherwise do no harm.

-RSumner

Cap'n TrVth

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May 27, 2001, 2:46:31 PM5/27/01
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"R Sumner" <rsu...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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Hehe.. The lil' stepchild gets angry when you tease him about AOL, I get
such a kick out of that!

When you figure out that hotmail isn't an ISP you can get back to me, now
scuttle off to your AOL chatroom before ya get your feelings hurt again.

-I'd put ya back in the killfile but yer just too goddamned much fun!

-Cap

SMITH29

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May 27, 2001, 3:34:54 PM5/27/01
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xxx
Exactly my point. You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when
it comes to cars.
STS is a poorly engineered highly touted front wheel go to Safeway in
style parking lot lizard.
The aluminum engine is pure throw away stuff and a lot of people quit
buying Cadillac
because of the front wheel drive and aluminum engine problems.
Cadillac sales have been so poor they decided to go back to making rear
wheel drive cars again. About time I say.

My Cadillac is of the vintage when they made REAL cars and it has a 507
inch engine
with a few modifications and no aluminum thank you very much.
Now go read up on cars.
29

R Sumner

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May 27, 2001, 4:37:13 PM5/27/01
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>My Cadillac is of the vintage when they made REAL cars and it has a 507
>inch engine
>with a few modifications and no aluminum thank you very much.

Gas guzzling piece of GM crap. Best used as a boat anchor. All the RWD/FWD
arguments are just between people who don't know the performance
characteristics (i.e. how to drive) the one they don't have.

Stick with the European heavy iron and you have an automobile.

R Sumner

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May 27, 2001, 4:39:46 PM5/27/01
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>When you figure out that hotmail isn't an ISP you can get back to me, now
>scuttle off to your AOL chatroom before ya get your feelings hurt again.

Who said hotmail was an ISP? Everyone know's it's just a mailbox for idiots
who have used up all their wanker alias' on their ISP.

xman Charlie

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"Richard Neuschaefer" <ric...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> SmartOne <
>
> >
> > That explains much - but for the bible thumpers, the small business
owners
> > would be the most extreme of the right. Seems they always have a view
> they are
> > totally self made and the government only hinders them.
>
>
> Typical of someone who has never met a payroll. Bullshit paperwork takes
> TIME. That is the most valuable quantity. Each employee costs $8/hour
> BEFORE they receive one penny to their pocket. Why? Regulatory bullshit.
> That is real money that could be used to generate more wealth.
>
> Would you like a $320 a week raise?

I get more than that one day overtime!!!

I did 4 days overtime this month, some of my pals did 15 days overtime$$$$$$

xman Charlie


SMITH29

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May 27, 2001, 8:16:01 PM5/27/01
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xxx
Yer so smart, why are you here?
29

R Sumner

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>> Stick with the European heavy iron and you have an automobile.
>
>xxx
>Yer so smart, why are you here?
>29
>
For the humor.

SMITH29

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May 27, 2001, 10:16:24 PM5/27/01
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xxx
Your knowledge of automobiles IS amusing all right.
Now in three words or less tell us everything you know about women.
29;-)

DrPostman

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Why not a Mercedes? My family used to be
rich and we had both. I LOVED my mom's
450SLC. She also had one of the last convertible
Caddy El dorado (75?) - black with a red interior. As much
as I liked that I still loved her 450.


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SMITH29

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May 28, 2001, 12:45:04 AM5/28/01
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DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 May 2001 02:39:41 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >R Sumner wrote:
> >>
> >> >Smitty makes his money off of *legal* drug dealers, aka pharmaceutical
> >> >companies.
> >>
> >> Oh, a real drug pimp.
> >
> >xxxx
> >Hopped up Cadillac too!!
> >Neener,
> >The 29
>
> Why not a Mercedes? My family used to be
> rich and we had both. I LOVED my mom's
> 450SLC. She also had one of the last convertible
> Caddy El dorado (75?) - black with a red interior. As much
> as I liked that I still loved her 450.
>
xxxx
Europe's idea of a powerful car becomes very expensive.( Ferrari, etc.
)
Insurance is out of this world expensive as well as parts. The cars are
finicky and
require more maintenance than American cars.

So, I chose to take the worlds largest passenger car production engine
and build it using today's technology with all new parts and a two
profile cam and tricked heads.
Massaged intake and a rebuilt carb configured to the increased air
handling capability.
The parts were balanced to make a quiet smooth torque engine.
Then I put that huge engine in a little 78 Seville along with a fresh
T-400 tranny.
Presently I'm getting ready to make changes to the carb after installing
a fresh 4-row
high efficiency radiator from the Bodine group.
The end result is a smooth running quiet car that is quite capable of
keeping up with just about anything out there and faster than but a few
of Europe's sedans.
BMW makes a quick sedan and my neighbor sells BMW so one day I will
drive one of the quick ones to see how they handle on Americas rotten
roads. My neighbor is looking for
a clean 76 Coupe Deville to pull a trailer. His 12 cylinder 750-iL isn't
up to the job at only 5 liter. He wants the 76 Cad 8.2 liter for the
job.
When it comes to power we use American iron which in my opinion had the
best engines in
the world until CAFE came in and aluminum was used to make engines.
Toady's aluminum engines suck.
29

R Sumner

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>Your knowledge of automobiles IS amusing all right.
>Now in three words or less tell us everything you know about women.
>29;-)

You're a virgin.

SmartOne

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May 28, 2001, 10:20:12 AM5/28/01
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>So, I chose to take the worlds largest passenger car production engine
>and build it using today's technology with all new parts and a two
>profile cam and tricked heads.
>Massaged intake and a rebuilt carb configured to the increased air
>handling capability.
>The parts were balanced to make a quiet smooth torque engine.
>Then I put that huge engine in a little 78 Seville along with a fresh
>T-400 tranny.
>Presently I'm getting ready to make changes to the carb after installing
>a fresh 4-row
>high efficiency radiator from the Bodine group.
>The end result is a smooth running quiet car that is quite capable of
>keeping up with just about anything out there and faster than but a few
>of Europe's sedans.

What you seem to have is a Winnebago (albeit, a better looking one) that goes
fast. The mettle of an automobile is not 0-60 - especially on US roads.
Without major modifications to both suspension and brakes - it's just a faster
Cadillac. Also, it seems your rants against CAFE and aluminium have far more
to do with politics than automotive engineering. If you require significant
towing capacity, I suggest the Dodge Ram with the Cummins upgrade.

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)

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May 28, 2001, 4:36:55 PM5/28/01
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On 28 May 2001 02:01:46 GMT, rsu...@aol.comnojunk (R Sumner) dropped
trou in alt.fan.art-bell and left the following steaming pile:

So when, exactly, are you planning on supplying a little?
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Richard Neuschaefer

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SMITH29 <

> >
> xxxx
> Europe's idea of a powerful car becomes very expensive.( Ferrari, etc.
> )
> Insurance is out of this world expensive as well as parts. The cars are
> finicky and
> require more maintenance than American cars.

You won't buy a Mercedes because you're tired of people mistaking you for an
African cabinet minister.

Rich

Richard Neuschaefer

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May 28, 2001, 8:24:33 PM5/28/01
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DrPostman <

>
>
> Why not a Mercedes? My family used to be
> rich and we had both. I LOVED my mom's
> 450SLC. She also had one of the last convertible
> Caddy El dorado (75?) - black with a red interior. As much
> as I liked that I still loved her 450.

I am going to buy a Honda Insight with the profits I made on El Paso
Petroleum and Haliburton stock. 70MPG and it looks like it fell out of
Liberace's ass.

Play both ends off the middle just like a "Super Jew".

Rich

AB

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May 28, 2001, 9:15:25 PM5/28/01
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Richard Neuschaefer <ric...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> SMITH29 <

>> Europe's idea of a powerful car becomes very expensive.( Ferrari,
>> etc.) Insurance is out of this world expensive as well as parts. The

>> cars are finicky and require more maintenance than American cars.
>
> You won't buy a Mercedes because you're tired of people mistaking you
> for an African cabinet minister.

Smitty don't even look Afrikaaner. But he'd look as out of place in a
Mercedes sedan as the Queen Mum would in a Charger Daytona.
Smitty in a Unimog, OTOH...

--
drop ego to email me

J.P.R. Jenkins

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May 28, 2001, 10:10:38 PM5/28/01
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Richard Neuschaefer wrote:

I hate it when I agree with Smitty, but I think Mercedes suck for the money and
the headaches.

If I were in Europe, I'd like a Mercedes, otherwise, I'll stick to AmeriJap
vehicles. I love older American cars. I've learned to really hate newer Fords
though.

I would also love a hybrid car.


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or the CIA ... -- John F Kennedy

The Committee finds that covert action programs have been used to disrupt the
lawful political activities of individual Americans and groups to
discredit them, using dangerous and degrading tactics which are abhorrent in a
free and decent society .... The sustained use of such tactics by
the FBI in an attempt to destroy Dr Martin Luther King Jr, violated the law and
fundamental human decency. -- Church Committee


J.P.R. Jenkins

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Richard Neuschaefer wrote:

Before you buy the Honda, look at the Toyota Pria (sp?), it's much better
looking, and has similar performance. The owners are nuts about them.

SMITH29

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May 28, 2001, 10:40:35 PM5/28/01
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xxxx
We have a 4 wheel "RASCAL" electric.( Parked in the living room ).
I drive it to the store if it's a nice day.
Damn thing cost $5,000 but momma wanted it for conventions and shows as
she has bad knees.
I can honestly say it looks better than the Insight.
I want to see a pic of you driving that thing...... <::::::::::::::::>
29

SMITH29

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May 28, 2001, 10:52:39 PM5/28/01
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xxxx
I was driving the Seville one day last week and a big coon stuck his
head out the window of his Plymouth Voyager and yelled at me "I'M A
PIMP!!"....
I laughed real good over that one. Him in a Voyager putt putt....HEH!
His Voyager was a piece of filthy crap too. It creaked as it passed me
going the opposite direction. Typical....
29;-)

SMITH29

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May 28, 2001, 11:47:04 PM5/28/01
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Richard Neuschaefer wrote:
>
> SMITH29

> >
> > xxxx
> > We have a 4 wheel "RASCAL" electric.( Parked in the living room ).
> > I drive it to the store if it's a nice day.
> > Damn thing cost $5,000 but momma wanted it for conventions and shows as
> > she has bad knees.
>
> My mom got a RASCAL to replace her wheelchair when she grew tired of my Dr.
> Strangelove imitations. She could never appreciate a good film.
xxxx
First time I saw that film it took a few moments for me to understand
about the arm flying up in the air. Good thing we were in a car because
I became hysterical..
>
> Those things are the lazy man's GoPed. The cops really hate it when you
> drink beer while driving one. :O Alas, her RASCAL was a rental and it had
> to go back when she died.

>
> > I can honestly say it looks better than the Insight.
>
> The couriers around Atlanta love'em. I saw one that already had 100,000
> miles on it and the battery tray had just been replaced. Maybe
> www.autowraps.com can put a Preperation H advertisment on it. The
> suppository jokes are endless.

>
> > I want to see a pic of you driving that thing...... <::::::::::::::::>
>
> Replete with a sticker of Calvin pissing on a bowtie.
xxx
Yep!
>
> > 29

Matt Kriebel

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In article <3B13131B...@home.com>, "J.P.R. Jenkins"
<jprje...@home.com> wrote:

> Richard Neuschaefer wrote:
>
> > SMITH29 <
> > > >
> > > xxxx
> > > Europe's idea of a powerful car becomes very expensive.( Ferrari,
> > > etc.
> > > )
> > > Insurance is out of this world expensive as well as parts. The cars
> > > are
> > > finicky and
> > > require more maintenance than American cars.
> >
> > You won't buy a Mercedes because you're tired of people mistaking you
> > for an
> > African cabinet minister.
> >
> > Rich
>
> I hate it when I agree with Smitty, but I think Mercedes suck for the
> money and
> the headaches.
>
> If I were in Europe, I'd like a Mercedes, otherwise, I'll stick to
> AmeriJap
> vehicles. I love older American cars. I've learned to really hate newer
> Fords
> though.

Mercedes is not know exclusively as a Luxury vehicle in Europe. Remind
me tell you the tale of the Mercedes Battle-Bus that I and a few others
had to contend with on a 1995 trip to Germany.

--
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SMITH29

>
> xxxx
> We have a 4 wheel "RASCAL" electric.( Parked in the living room ).
> I drive it to the store if it's a nice day.
> Damn thing cost $5,000 but momma wanted it for conventions and shows as
> she has bad knees.

My mom got a RASCAL to replace her wheelchair when she grew tired of my Dr.


Strangelove imitations. She could never appreciate a good film.

Those things are the lazy man's GoPed. The cops really hate it when you


drink beer while driving one. :O Alas, her RASCAL was a rental and it had
to go back when she died.

> I can honestly say it looks better than the Insight.

The couriers around Atlanta love'em. I saw one that already had 100,000


miles on it and the battery tray had just been replaced. Maybe
www.autowraps.com can put a Preperation H advertisment on it. The
suppository jokes are endless.

> I want to see a pic of you driving that thing...... <::::::::::::::::>

Replete with a sticker of Calvin pissing on a bowtie.

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SMITH29

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xxxx
How true.
Over here they cost plenty and repair is also high. In Europe people
want Cadillacs.
I still contend that we made the most durable cars and trucks in the
world.
One of my Astro vans went almost 230,000 with no engine OR tranny work.
The tranny went one week and the engine the week after the tranny. Who
can complain about service like that. Cast iron works for me.
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DrPostman

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My 90 Nissan 240sx which I bought new got totaled by an
idiot running a stop sign - I had it for 10 years and I still miss
it. I got $3,400 for it from the insurance and bought a decent
used 92 Olds Achiva - I must be getting old because I went from
a sports car to a car with gadgets, which I like. I dearly love
cruise control.

SMITH29

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DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 May 2001 20:24:33 -0400, "Richard Neuschaefer"
> <ric...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >DrPostman <
> >>
> >>
> >> Why not a Mercedes? My family used to be
> >> rich and we had both. I LOVED my mom's
> >> 450SLC. She also had one of the last convertible
> >> Caddy El dorado (75?) - black with a red interior. As much
> >> as I liked that I still loved her 450.
> >
> >I am going to buy a Honda Insight with the profits I made on El Paso
> >Petroleum and Haliburton stock. 70MPG and it looks like it fell out of
> >Liberace's ass.
> >
> >Play both ends off the middle just like a "Super Jew".
> >
> >Rich
>
> My 90 Nissan 240sx which I bought new got totaled by an
> idiot running a stop sign - I had it for 10 years and I still miss
> it. I got $3,400 for it from the insurance and bought a decent
> used 92 Olds Achiva - I must be getting old because I went from
> a sports car to a car with gadgets, which I like. I dearly love
> cruise control.
>
> Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD;
xxx
Uh huh!!
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Major Margaret Houlihan

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In article <3B0EFBD7...@home.com>, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com>
wrote:

> Major Margaret Houlihan wrote:
> >
> > In article <l%4N6.2179$rA2.3...@news-rep.ab.videon.ca>, Ass Torkleson
> > <number_1_ric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > -> Chive Mynde <chyve...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> > -> news:9e2d3...@drn.newsguy.com...
> > -> > The Last Days of Legal Cannabis
> > -> >
> > -> Hey, give STIFFY29 a break. He really only has two faults - everything he
> > -> says and everything he does.
> >
> > He may be a delusional lunatic, but he's OUR delusional lunatic, and we
> > need to keep him around in case we run out of WD-40 when Iggie runs
> > nekkid through the newsgroup.
> >
> > --
> > Hotlipz "Puritan wench" Houlihan BsD, BFD, LMAO, ULC, ZOG
> >
> xxxx
> Gosh Hotlipz, My WD-40 tricks seem to hit home with you.

I'm easily amused and try to get along with everybody.

> Yeah, the left wing contingent around her don't think much of my drug
> policy. It would probably get a few of them injected. And I don't mean
> "fuel".
> I can tell the anemic limp wristed sweaty stinkin bong suckers just by
> the response when I air my desire to have the penalty for dealing the
> death sentence. Too harsh for their
> temperament and health.

Lethal injection wood be a impediment to one's health, doncha think?
I've personally seen the horror and misery that substance abuse
(including alcohol) brings, but you won't eliminate the demand by
killing off the small time "anemic limp wristed sweaty stinkin bong
suckers" who are growing a few plants for their own use and selling the
excess to supplement their income.

If you're referring to the people who knowingly profit as they peddle
this poison and misery in our society then, by all means, line 'em up
and make it a pay-per-view event. Just make sure that you include the
tobacco company executives and, to make me really happy, throw in all
of the sexual predators and pedophiles, and I'll buy a ticket and make
the popcorn.

> This is what I get for clean livin and I love it.

I have a clean lifestyle too, but I don't presume to know what's best
for everyone else.

> I love money not weed.

I love my family, my home, my friends, and my life.

> YerPal,
> The29

--
Hotlipz "Puritan wench" Houlihan BsD, BFD, LMAO, ULC, ZOG

Sir Major Margaret of the Mighty Comeback,
Archangel of the Sitcom Allusion,
Slayer of the Evil Username,
SKEP-TI-CULT® Member Emeritus Cum Loudie #03-51542-015
Beautiful Assistant to the True/False Prophet
yadda...yadda...yadda

"Shut up, Frank!"

SMITH29

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May 30, 2001, 12:28:16 PM5/30/01
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xxxx
You don't kill just half of the snake.

>
> If you're referring to the people who knowingly profit as they peddle
> this poison and misery in our society then, by all means, line 'em up
> and make it a pay-per-view event. Just make sure that you include the
> tobacco company executives and, to make me really happy, throw in all
> of the sexual predators and pedophiles, and I'll buy a ticket and make
> the popcorn.
xxx
I'd like to deal with just one item at a time. If we clean up the
nations drug scene we will have done an enormous part of returning the
nation to having safe streets again.
And believe me when I note that the drug pushers would bust into a sweat
if we invoke the death penalty for first conviction class 1. felony.
Prison population would fall almost immediately and some could close.
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>
> > This is what I get for clean livin and I love it.
>
> I have a clean lifestyle too, but I don't presume to know what's best
> for everyone else.
xxx
I don't either but just think what would happen if we could invoke death
for dealers.
You smoke weed how often?

Major Margaret Houlihan

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In article <3B151FF8...@home.com>, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com>
wrote:

> > > This is what I get for clean livin and I love it.
> >
> > I have a clean lifestyle too, but I don't presume to know what's best
> > for everyone else.
> xxx
> I don't either but just think what would happen if we could invoke death
> for dealers.
> You smoke weed how often?

I haven't smoked anything, including marijuana, since 1979, and we
still have half of a bottle of wine left in the fridge from New Year's
Eve. I told you that I have a clean lifestyle, and you ask about how
often I smoke weed. bwahahahahahaha! Do you do this with everyone who
disagrees with your opinions?

> > > I love money not weed.
> >
> > I love my family, my home, my friends, and my life.

What...no snotty comment about me being too loaded to appreciate the
blessings in my life, Smitty? Maybe you were too busy examining your
"portfolio" to take another cheap shot.

SMITH29

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Major Margaret Houlihan wrote:
>
> In article <3B151FF8...@home.com>, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > > This is what I get for clean livin and I love it.
> > >
> > > I have a clean lifestyle too, but I don't presume to know what's best
> > > for everyone else.
> > xxx
> > I don't either but just think what would happen if we could invoke death
> > for dealers.
> > You smoke weed how often?
>
> I haven't smoked anything, including marijuana, since 1979, and we
> still have half of a bottle of wine left in the fridge from New Year's
> Eve. I told you that I have a clean lifestyle, and you ask about how
> often I smoke weed. bwahahahahahaha! Do you do this with everyone who
> disagrees with your opinions?
xxx
Even those that don't so please don't feel interrogated.

>
> > > > I love money not weed.
> > >
> > > I love my family, my home, my friends, and my life.
>
> What...no snotty comment about me being too loaded to appreciate the
> blessings in my life, Smitty? Maybe you were too busy examining your
> "portfolio" to take another cheap shot.
xxxx
I didn't see anything to remark on. Sorry...
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