Diana's Grave is Empty
ellmo
Diana's Grave is Empty
Where is Di's Body?
The Princess is not buried on the lake, claims shocking US report.
A shocking US report quotes a "Palace source" as saying that Diana's
body is not on the island in the lake, and that the beloved Princess was
cremated - and her ashes put in an urn.
What really happened to Diana's body? A shocking US report claims that
the tragic Princess was not laid to rest on the little island at
Althrop - as the world has believed since her dramatic funeral nearly a
year ago.
Supposedly, she was secretly cremated, and the ashes given to her two
sons, Princes William and Harry!
This claim, according to America's Star magazine, comes from a senior
source at Buckingham Palace. "Diana" was cremated and her ashes put in
an urn and given to her sons" the source claims
According to a report in the Los Angeles Times people in Di's tiny
hometown of Great Brington also don't believe Di's body lies on the
island in the lake near Althrop House
One resident said that very strange things were going on there following
Diana’s funeral - especially at the towns crematorium. "The night they
brought her body back after the big funeral ceremony in London, our
whole
village was invaded by the army and the police and special forces units"
the resident said.
"All the residents were hustled back into their houses to get them well
out of the way. They got the crematorium burning well into the night.
What we think is that they cremated Princess Diana".
It was five days after her tragic August 31 death in a Paris underpass
that Di's funeral procession made its long sad journey past grief
stricken crowds from Westminster Abbey in London to Althrop.
Only her close family members were at the graveside on the grounds of
the house. No details of any ceremony were ever released. It was Diana's
brother Charles Spencer who announced that he had prepared it on the
small island. Today, many people have doubts about the burial.
<snip long quote from wife of head Gardner who declared "an odd feeling
about the whole thing".>
According to the Star, other employees at Althrop suggest that perhaps
Di's body was never even in the coffin. Althrop former cook and
housekeeper, Betty Andrews is quoted as saying "There’s a strange
feeling
amongst all the villagers that we may not be hearing the complete truth.
"It seems very odd to us that Diana would be buried on an island here,
miles from her young sons, in a place where they can hardly ever visit
her.
"Only the Spencers and the royal family really know what happened."
Comment on the article - As stated previously, my ex fiancee met with a
close friend of the family who works in the Crematorium near Althrop and
who in fact WAS expected to undertake a late night cremation, the
circumstances of which were strictly secret, no questions asked or told!
However this in itself whilst being mighty suspicious, does not confirm
that Diana was cremated, whilst it would appear to make it a very strong
possibility!
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ellmo
Joy Bishop
INDIGINITIES AFFORDED HER IN LIFE. ~ BY DISCUSSNG THIS ISSUE. THE
UNRAVELLING OF THE MEANS AND MOTIVES OF HER DEATH AND ANY POSSIBLE
CONSPIRAY ARE ISSUES WITH CONSEQUENCES FOR US ALL. HOWEVER NOW DEAD LEAVE
HER ~ WHEREEVER SHE MAY LAY ~ IN PEACE
HER PERSONA MAY HAVE, IN THEORY, BELONGED TO THE WORLD BUT HER BODY WAS HERS
AND HERS ALONE. THIS VERY DISCUSSION IS EXPLANATION AND JUSTIFICATION AS TO
WHY WE SHOULD NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE BURIAL
JOY.
ellmo wrote in message ...
ellmo
Shoud we take it from your post here, that you agree with the following:
That you would fullly support and agree with the public being lied to in
every regard, when you say and I quote 'we should never know the truth'
as to the circumstances of Princess Diana's funeral, if not the whole
circumstances of her death or dissapearance whichever ay be the case.
Has it not occured to you that as 'mother to the future British heir to
the throne as king of England, she cannot ever be regarded or expect to
be treated as a private person like you or I. Furthemore it would be
perposterous for any family member of Diana to claim as much. Yes, it is
true that she made that cruicial decision that would affect her and her
family forwever more on the day that she agreed to marry the future heir
to the throne, the Prince of Wales.
Let us just imagine that the majority, yes the majoprity (believe it or
not) of the worlds population just happen to be right and that she was
indeed murdered, certainly the great majority of the population of Paris
think this is the case in an offical poll - do you support the approach
NOT to question by the British establishment to allow any discussion of
this matter in the House of Parliament - and NOT support any attempt to
examine whether this is the case as a matter of urgency and NOT support
seeking those responsible and thereby ensuring justice is done. If you
were Diana's sister, would you rest so easily in believing the accident
by drunken drugged driver, chased by photographers approach which seemed
to have been the official line - literally since the first gendarme on
the scene! Or would you be pressing for justice like most families are
regularly reported do when their bereved are suspiciously killed or
murdered abroad.
Going back to yuor 'never know the truth' statement, do you therefore
agree that Spencer is moraly or legaly right to charge visitors to the
site of his sisters burial if this is not true. I am fairly confident
that this would amount to obtaining money by deception for which the
punishment could include a hefty prison sentence. Would you recommend
that the Earl does in fact lie and risk being sent to prison?
I suppose that you also support the concept of charging visitors to
visit the location in which it is claimed that the body may rest. I
wonder if you can think of any other examples in which any family have
sought to 'profit' from the burial of a family member. My own views on
this matter is that the 'profiteering' on the grave of anyone, let alone
the mother of the future King of England to be totally and whollly
moraly repugnant.
In conclusion, it is obviously not Diana who is examined or critisised
in these matters, but those around her and the way in which they have
conducted themselves following her death. Those to blame include the
authorities at home and abroad, the establishment, the royals, the
Spencer family and not least the press, who have abused thier
researching role, not find out and to report the truth, but instead to
relay to the public, the enormous number of lies and misinformation
which is fed to the press by the truck load by those in a position of
power.
Is there a single fool alive who would ever believe - even remoltely
that it is respectful to the memory of Diana, for there to be such
shameless lies produced and published about the circumstances of her
death and her subsequent funeral arrangements (we can be sure that this
is a fact since no two reoprted stories ever appear to be the same, and
romours of conflicting stories abound).
DO you think that it is respectful to Diana's memory for her end to be
so wilfully misrepresented. If you blame us - you are pointing your
finger at the wrong guilty party since we are merely discussing the
enoromous amount of misinformation which only indicates the
establishments total disrespect for both the public and Diana - a woman
who so clearly deserves better.
I think you will find that most of the regular members of this group
hope that the truth will soon emerge regarding both the circumstances of
her death and her burial, because, Diana, her families and the general
public who have so wilfully been prepared to worship and honour her
life, following her death, deserve the truth. Any assailants guity in
this resepect deserve punishment for the sake of justice and all those
mentioned above. DO you think Diana could 'ever' rest in peace if this
was not allowed to happen.
I am sure that if Diana was watching all these deliberations she would
suport all the efforts of ordinary people seeking truth, honnesty,
justice and respect, for someone who so clearly deserves better, in the
face of adversity, challenging only those evil men and women, who who it
would seem, prefer to sit at the table of the devil.
Diana deserves truth, respect anf justice.
In article <6qgrf2$jj5$1...@epos.tesco.net>, Joy Bishop <Hyw...@tesco.net>
writes
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ellmo
kodiak
post. I would like to add only one further thing and that is in reference
to your remark about the press as snipped below:
ellmo <el...@ccvv.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<C59A8CAv...@ccvv.demon.co.uk>...
> Hi Joy,
>
> Shoud we take it from your post here, that you agree with the following:
>
>
> In conclusion, it is obviously not Diana who is examined or critisised
> in these matters, but those around her and the way in which they have
> conducted themselves following her death. Those to blame include the
> authorities at home and abroad, the establishment, the royals, the
> Spencer family and not least the press, who have abused thier
> researching role, not find out and to report the truth, but instead to
> relay to the public, the enormous number of lies and misinformation
> which is fed to the press by the truck load by those in a position of
> power.
>
The press has knowingly reported untruths and disinformation to the
public. This is evidenced by their complete lack of responsibility in
reporting
all facets of the case so far. The press is equally to blame as those in
the position of power. Not for one second do I believe that they are only
acting on what is fed to them, but at their complete and total callous
disregard for the truth.
thanks again Ellmo, great job.
Kodiak
Joy Bishop
I NEITHER SUPPORT NOR AGREE WITH THE PUBLIC BEING LIED TO IN EVERY
REGARD BUT WHAT I DO ADVOCATE IS THE RIGHT OF A WOMAN TO HAVE CONTROL OVER
HER BODY, A RIGHT I FEEL WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM DIANA IN LIFE. PHOTOGRAHERS,
ROYALTY AND JOE PUBLIC FELT THIER NEEDS OVERRIDED DIANA'S WHICH RESULTED IN
BOTH AN INFRINGEMENT OF HER CIVIL LIBERTIES AND PROVIDED THE CAUSATION OF
MUCH OF HER TRAUMA.
IN DEATH I FEEL SHE SHOULD BE AFFORDED THIS RIGHT AND AS 'HER BLOOD FAMILY',
THE SPENCERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO EXACTLY AS THEY PLEASE WITH HER REMAINS.
HOWEVER THIS DOES NOT DETRACT FROM THE FUNDAMANETAL ISSUE OF THE DISCOVERY
OF BOTH THE MEANS OF AND MOTIVE BEHIND THE INCIDENTS SURROUDING HER ACTUAL
DEATH. THIS ISSUE IS OF PRIME IMPORTANCE AND IS ONE THAT SHOLD BE OPEN FOR
DISCUSSION, REVALATION AND OPINION AS I BELIEVE THAT 'THE BRTISH
ESTABLISHMENT' PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN HER DEATH. AS A COMMITTED SOCIALIST,
I
AM OPOSED TO THE SELF-PERPETUATING AND AUTOCRATIC TENDENCIES OF THE
BRITISH ESTABLISHMENT WHO THROUGH A NETWORK OF INTERMARRIGAE AND SELECTIVE
BREEDING HAVE MANAGED TO SUSTAIN MANY AN ONSLAUGHT. THE DEATH OF DIANA
BEING JUST ONE OF MANY EXAMPLES.
HAVING STATED MY POLITICS, OPINION AND INTENTION I NOW RETURN TO THE MAIN
BODY OF YOUR LETTER AND IT'S QUESTIONS. IF I WERE DIANA'S SISTER (INCIDENTLY
ONE OF WHICH IS MARRIED TO A MEMBER OF THE ESTABLISHMENT) I WOULD PROBABLY
BELIEVE THAT MY SISTER HAD DIED IN AN ' accident by drunken drugged driver,
chased by photographers' FOR TO QUESTION THIS WOULD BE TO RISK MY WHOLE
EXISTANCE IN THE ROYAL HOUSEHOLD ~ AN EXISTANCE I MUST SUBSCRIBE TO.
AS AN ASIDE TO THIS I MUST STATE HERE THAT I AM A PARENT OF A CHILD MOWN
DOWN BY SOME DRUNKEN AND DRUGGED BASTARD WHO WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES FELT THE DIGNIFICATION OF MY SON WAS THE PARAMOUNT CONCERN.
IN ADDITON TO PROVIDING HIM WITH THE PROTECTION I FELT I HAD FAILED TO
PROVIDE ON THE DAY OF THE ACCIDENT. THIS I FEEL IS THE BASIS FOR THE
SPENCER'S ACTIONS. AS TO WHETEHER I AGREE WITH EARL SPENCER'S MORALS IN
CHARGING VISITORS TO SEE THE SITE OF THE ALLEGED BURIAL ~ WELL THE
ARISTOCRACY HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL, UNTIL THE DEMISE COME THE REVOLUTION, MADE
MONEY OFF THE BACKS OF THE PROLATARIAT AND AFTER ALL HE MUST BE PROVIDING
A
DESIRED SERVICE.
IN CONCLSUION, ACCEPT THE REALTY OF THE SITUTION AND CLEAR YOUR MIND TO DEAL
WITH THE PRIME OBJECTIVE OF DISCOVERING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DEATH FOR BY
DISCUSSING WHEREVER SHE MAY LAYS DETRACTS FROM THIS. CONTEMPLATE ON THE
THOUGHT THAT THESE RUMOURS HAVE BEEN PURPORTED IN ORDER TO DIVERT
CONCENTRATION UPON THE REAL ISSUES FOR IF DIANA WAS KILLED BY A 'PLOT' THEN
THERE WILL BE CONSPIRACY WITHIN CONSPIRACY WITHIN CONSPIRACY IN ORDER TO
COVER IT UP. I SUGGEST YOU FOCUS YOUR MIND ON
A. WHO WOULD HAVE GAINED FROM HER DEATH?
B. WHO GAINS FROM COVERING UP HER DEATH ?
C. THE LIMITED AND ARISTOCRATIC NATURE OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE MEDIA
D. WHO OR WHAT HAD THE POWER TO INSTIGATE SUCH AN ACTION?
E. HOW THE RECENT PETER SHAYLER/MI6 NEWS REPORTS ~ SO CLOSE TO THE
ANNIVERSARY ~ HAVE DIVERTED ATTENTION AWAY FROM AN ASSINATION OF DIANA TO
GADAFI.
CONSPIRACY ELLMO ~ YOU HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED.
REGARDS ~ JOY
GIVE DIANA THE 'truth, respect anf justice' SHE DESERVES BY UNRAVELLING THE
REALITY OF HER DEATH AND BY ALLOWING HER TO REST IN PEACE ~ AT LAST. JUSTICE
WILL NEVER PREVAIL IF YOU ALLOW THE BOURGEOSIE NATURE AND THE MORALS OF THE
ESTABLISHMENT TO CLOUD THE ISSUE ~ I REPEAT WHERE SHE LIES IS OF NO MATTER ~
HOW SHE DIED AND HOW SHE LIVED IS!
Joy Bishop
READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS THE WAY THOSE AROUND DIANA HAVE 'conducted
themselves following her death' HAS BEEN THE WAY THE ARISTOCRACY HAVE
CONDUCTED THEMSELVES FOR CENTURIES. THE HAVE THE MEANS AND THE POWER TO
CONTROL US ALL ~ THEY AREN'T CALLED THE RULING CLASS FOR NOTHING. THE
LIMITED AND ARISTOCRATIC NATURE OF THE BRITISH PRESS/MEDIA OWNERSHIP MEANS
THAT THE PRESS CAN AND WILL ONLY FEED ' untruths and disinformation to the
public'. THE PRESS ARE EQUALLY TO BLAME BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE
CONSPIRACY ~ NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ATOTAL ' complete and total callous
disregard for the truth' ~ BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE IN PLACE IN ORDER TO DIVERT
ATTENTION AWAY FROM ANY RELEVANT ISSUES.
FOCUS YOUR MIND ~ LOOK AT THE WHOLE ISSUE ~ READ MARX'S ANALOGY OF
HEGEMONY(DAS KAPITAL)
CONSPIRACY KODIAK ~ YOU HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED.
CHEERS JOY.
Kevin Warren
caps! Makes you post easier to read.
About your post, I think you have spoken eloquently of the need to stay focused,
not get drawn off into tagents, to keep our eye on the ball. Di may or may not
lie buried on that isle. Don't know for sure, wasn't there. But I do know that
Diana is dead. And based on the evidence I've seen she was murdered. And the
evidence is overwhelming. Our task then must be to identify who had the motive,
means, and opportunity to kill her. To me, speculation about whether she was
creamated or not, or if she is even dead or not, is pointless; the former,
because it doesn't change the fact she may have been murdered, the latter,
because it is not conceivable that Diana, even in her desire to have some
privacy in her life, would put the world through this kind of anguish, not to
mention her boys. It goes against everything we know about her.
The disinformation machine of the killers is running full time. Let's keep our
eye on that ball!
Kevin Warren
http://www.anaserve.com/~wethepeople/diforum.htm
Joy Bishop
Thank you for you positive comments about and support for my viewpoint. I
look forward to discussing this matter further in the hope of resolving this
as I like you have belived since first hearing the news of her death that
she was murdered.
Speak soon
Joy
Chris Jericho
Chris Jericho
drs.scha...@gmail.com
She became a target of Britain's domestic intelligence agency - MI5. But not only was Diana seen to be attacking the Public State, she was doing something far, far more dangerous - she was attacking the most evil sector of the Private State - the Arms industry. Now she was to be targeted on a much higher level - she was to cross the path of the world-wide secret government where intelligence agencies, big corporations, Royal Houses, powerful individuals, neo-Chivalraic Orders, and powerful secret societies merge into a blur.
The British wing was to act on both worldwide and domestic concerns through the infamous MI6. With Diana's death, Charles and his mother would be set to gain complete control over the Princes, the increasing popularity of Diana over Charles could be curtailed, the British Arms Industry could lance an irritating boil.
Then Diana became involved with Mohammed Al Fayed, in his former days a establishment darling, now it's victorious enemy. It had now gone too far for the establishment. Diana had undermined the British constitutional system and was threatening a key industry, the weapon industry, and, to top it all, this Al Fayed, had made them look like fools. Not only this, a possible Al-Fayed half-brother to the Heir would have been just too unsettling for the Establishment. Diana had to be terminated. If they could get Al-Fayed too, so much the better. So the British establishment kills her.
Best referenced compilation of Princess Diana´s assassination so far of all police enquiries and inquest and mercifully short is indeed The
Paris-London Connection: The Assassination of Princess Diana by John Morgan
Princess Diana was in the tunnel for 81 minutes from 00:23 - 01:44. She was in the ambulance for an hour - from 01:06-02:06, before she was delivered to Hospital in an unsurvivable condition. Had this been Jaque Chirac, would thy have left him the Alma Tunnel for 81 minutes ? They left Princess Diana for 01:43 minutes, before they delivered her to La Pitie Salpetriere Hospital with no cardio-thorac surgeon present. Dr, Alan Pavie was asleep at home when he received a call, at 02:10. Diana died at 02:12. This is her effective time of death, her offical time of death was 04:00. Dr. Alan Pavie arrived at 02:22, ten minutes after Princess Diana had died. At 04:03, the Queen turns dead Diana back into a Royal. Why ? On the 28.august 1996, the Queen had stripped Diana off her Royal Title, on the 30th of august 1997, Diana wasnt a Royal but then on the 31. august 1997, the Queen suddenly turns Diana back into a Royal. Again why ? This is the woman who refuses to flag on half mast for Diana. Because this is the only way the Queen can control Diana´s toxicology samples, her pathology and autopsy, her embalming and the later Royal Inquest. Thats why she turned Diana back into a Royal. THAT was her agenda. Dr. Frederic Mailliez, Arnoud Derossi and Jean Marc Martino were agents for the French DGSE. They all committed perjury at the London Inquest, without any apparent accountability. Had this been Jacque Chirac woud they have put a medical student in charge of his medical treatment ? Dr. Jean Marc Martino was a medical student on the 31.august 1997. This was the doctor responsible for Princess Diana´s medical treatment. It went down like this: Tony Blair was the conduit between the Queen and David Spedding, head of MI6, who ordered Sherad Cowper-Coles ( Richard Spearman ) and Richard Dearlove, to come up with a plot to kill Diana, Princess of Wales. They set it in Paris with the help of the French DGSE and DST in conjunction with MI6/SIS. The rest is history. I believe that the protection given to MI6 files under the Official Secrets Act should be set aside in the public interest in uncovering once and for all the truth behind the dramatic and historically momentous events that lead to the murder of Diana, princess of Wales. Princess Diana was cremated for the same reasons, the Alma Tunnel was wasjed Down twice before opening justy 4 hours after the crash. To remove forensic evidence.
drs.scha...@gmail.com
tesla sTinker
the freemason party. It is part of the plan to destroy the true
Catholic Church. And the fact that Christ had His Church built first
in Rome, in the temple of Diana, a pagan Goddess, as they threw her out
and then Christianity began way back then. It has much to do with the
witches that stand in Rome now, posing as popes. Of which, they are
nothing of the sort.
And the rape of a child on the backwards altar, they did, of which now,
because of many sins, to many to list of, God Almighty, has removed the
true Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and there is no more sacraments in
those horror places that they do possess claiming them to be catholic,
of which is not true....
