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Sam McClung
Sep 20, 2014, 7:56:39 PM9/20/14
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tracy barnes was fired from the cia in 1966 and by 10-8-67 abe greenbaum retired. were barns and greenbaum the same person?
the following indicates tracy barnes sent nagell to "find out if things real" and indicates tracy barnes was nagell's cia case
officer, making a very strong case for tracy barnes being abe greenbaum
<begin quote>
There is evidence, described by Dick Russell (The Man Who Knew Too Much, pp. 408ff), that Richard Case Nagell was sent by Tracy
Barnes during this period to infiltrate and investigate the Lake Pontchartrain training base. At this point, Nagell apparently was
no longer able to contact his CIA case officer (who was, according to Robert Morrow, Tracy Barnes) ; Nagell then sent the
information that he had uncovered to the FBI.
<end quote>
from footnote 27, page 110 at http://hum.uchicago.edu/jagoldsm/Papers/JFK/6_NewOrleans.pdf
<begin quote>
Middlist Abe [Greenbaum] contacts Triple-Man Zero, sitting on ice because has burned butt. Triple-Man Zero instructed to join Delta
Club, which is affiliate of Bravo Club, find out if things real. Zero does just that, craftily, in guise of crossbow expert.
Discovers Patsy undergoing hypnotherapy by ex-ferry pilot named Hairy De Fairy. Reports to Abe things are for real, yes siree! Abe
passes info on to Dirty Dick (and Snerd). Snerd passes info on to Big Mother Busher.
<end quote>
from nagell 10-8-67 letter
Nagell's chain of command flow chart would look like this:
prescott bush (big mother busher)
richard helms (dirty dick)
and ghw bush (snerd)
tracy barnes (abe greenbaum)
nagell (triple-man zero)
***note that tracy barnes was in yale's scroll and key and prescott bush and ghw bush members of yale's skull & bones***
nagell didn't know whom or didn't say whom gave him the order to kill oswald, nagell simply said:
"Somebody flashes word back for Zero [Nagell] to let go with well-aimed arrow in Patsy's rump."
from nagell 10-8-67 letter
the following indicates tracy barnes sent nagell to "find out if things real" and indicates tracy barnes was nagell's cia case
officer, making a very strong case for tracy barnes being abe greenbaum
<begin quote>
There is evidence, described by Dick Russell (The Man Who Knew Too Much, pp. 408ff), that Richard Case Nagell was sent by Tracy
Barnes during this period to infiltrate and investigate the Lake Pontchartrain training base. At this point, Nagell apparently was
no longer able to contact his CIA case officer (who was, according to Robert Morrow, Tracy Barnes) ; Nagell then sent the
information that he had uncovered to the FBI.
<end quote>
from footnote 27, page 110 at http://hum.uchicago.edu/jagoldsm/Papers/JFK/6_NewOrleans.pdf
<begin quote>
Middlist Abe [Greenbaum] contacts Triple-Man Zero, sitting on ice because has burned butt. Triple-Man Zero instructed to join Delta
Club, which is affiliate of Bravo Club, find out if things real. Zero does just that, craftily, in guise of crossbow expert.
Discovers Patsy undergoing hypnotherapy by ex-ferry pilot named Hairy De Fairy. Reports to Abe things are for real, yes siree! Abe
passes info on to Dirty Dick (and Snerd). Snerd passes info on to Big Mother Busher.
<end quote>
from nagell 10-8-67 letter
Nagell's chain of command flow chart would look like this:
prescott bush (big mother busher)
richard helms (dirty dick)
and ghw bush (snerd)
tracy barnes (abe greenbaum)
nagell (triple-man zero)
***note that tracy barnes was in yale's scroll and key and prescott bush and ghw bush members of yale's skull & bones***
nagell didn't know whom or didn't say whom gave him the order to kill oswald, nagell simply said:
"Somebody flashes word back for Zero [Nagell] to let go with well-aimed arrow in Patsy's rump."
from nagell 10-8-67 letter
Sam McClung
Sep 21, 2014, 12:56:04 AM9/21/14
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<begin quote>
Nagell implied to Russell that he had been ordered to eliminate Oswald before he could pull the trigger. Nagell said this order was
delivered by a Soviet agent, perhaps Mark Gayn, or, more startlingly, Tracy Barnes, of the CIA, Michael Straight's cousin.
<end quote>
from http://www.umsl.edu/~thomaskp/gaynst.htm
Sam McClung
Sep 21, 2014, 8:09:13 PM9/21/14
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>> Nagell's chain of command flow chart would look like this:
>>
>> prescott bush (big mother busher) [yalie, skull&bones}
>>
>> richard helms (dirty dick)
>> and ghw bush (snerd) [yalie, skull&bones]
>> tracy barnes (abe greenbaum) [yalie, scroll&key]
>> nagell (triple-man zero)
>>
>> ***note that tracy barnes was in yale's scroll and key and prescott bush and ghw bush members of yale's skull & bones***
= 3 yalies in secret organizations, dirty dick, and nagell the barbarian
>>
>> ***note that tracy barnes was in yale's scroll and key and prescott bush and ghw bush members of yale's skull & bones***
the pyramid from top to bottom, noting oswald was on the bottom with nagell
this covers motive, means, and patsy
allen dulles, richard helms, and tracy barnes had worked together in switzerland = 2 yalies in secret organizations and dirty dick =
they and germans plotted an assassination of adolf hitler
note "President Johnson appointed Helms to be CIA director, and Helms is the only CIA director convicted of a crime for lying before
Congress."
Rockefellerocracy
By Richard James DeSocio
page 138
errata
<begin quote>
According to Robert Morrow, it was Tracy Barnes, second in command of the Bay of Pigs operation under Rostow's friend Richard
Bissell, who was the recipient of Lee Harvey Oswald's information from Minsk. Barnes went on to head the CIA's super secret Domestic
Operations Division (DOD);
<end quote>
http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/17th_issue/rambler2.html
Sam McClung
Sep 22, 2014, 11:29:52 AM9/22/14
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nagell's relationship with the cia as to assassination of jfk, in a hierarchical arrangement:
prescott bush (big mother busher) [skull & bones]
allen dulles* [skull & bones]
cord meyer [scroll & key]
richard helms* (dirty dick) [barbarian]
and ghw bush (single-man snerd,
big mother busher's illegitimate son) [yalie, skull&bones]
tracy barnes* (double-man abe greenbaum) [scroll & key]
nagell (triple-man zero) [barbarian]
oswald (patsy) [barbarian]
the illuminati look upon those who are not illuminati as "barbarians"
* = these 3 worked together in switzerland during ww2 in oss then in the formation of the cia
the following of the above and a few related others who attended groton college preparatory high school:
tracy barnes
eugene rostow, yale law school dean who proposed creation of warren commission
richard bissell of cia, worked under allen dulles in cia, lost job when allen dulles fired from cia as director over bay of pigs
averell harriman [skull & bones] creator of brown brothers harriman, the oldest bank in the usa
mcgeorge bundy (skull & bones]
william bundy [skull & bones]
dean acheson, presidential advisor to johnson
george herbert walker iii, first cousin of ghw bush, worked for brown brothers harriman (prescott bush was a partner in brown
brothers harriman)
prescott bush (big mother busher) [skull & bones]
allen dulles* [skull & bones]
cord meyer [scroll & key]
richard helms* (dirty dick) [barbarian]
and ghw bush (single-man snerd,
big mother busher's illegitimate son) [yalie, skull&bones]
tracy barnes* (double-man abe greenbaum) [scroll & key]
nagell (triple-man zero) [barbarian]
oswald (patsy) [barbarian]
the illuminati look upon those who are not illuminati as "barbarians"
* = these 3 worked together in switzerland during ww2 in oss then in the formation of the cia
the following of the above and a few related others who attended groton college preparatory high school:
tracy barnes
eugene rostow, yale law school dean who proposed creation of warren commission
richard bissell of cia, worked under allen dulles in cia, lost job when allen dulles fired from cia as director over bay of pigs
averell harriman [skull & bones] creator of brown brothers harriman, the oldest bank in the usa
mcgeorge bundy (skull & bones]
william bundy [skull & bones]
dean acheson, presidential advisor to johnson
george herbert walker iii, first cousin of ghw bush, worked for brown brothers harriman (prescott bush was a partner in brown
brothers harriman)
Sam McClung
Sep 22, 2014, 3:05:46 PM9/22/14
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summarizing the aforementioned yalies in birth year order per category:
skull & bones members:
averell harriman 1891 g gs
allen dulles 1893 gs
prescott bush 1895
william bundy 1917 g
mcgeorge bundy 1919 g
ghw bush 1924
george herbert walker iii 1931 g
scroll & key members:
cord meyer 1920 gs
tracy barnes 1911 g gs
dean acheson 1893 g
others
eugene rostow 1913 g gs
richard bissell, jr. 1909 g gs
g = attended Groton gs = member of "Georgetown Set"
<begin quote>
Many wives accompanied their husbands to these gatherings [of the Georgetown Set]. Members of what was later called the Georgetown
Ladies' Social Club included Katharine Meyer Graham, Mary Pinchot Meyer [wife of Cord Meyer], Anne Truitt, Sally Reston, Polly
Wisner, Joan Braden, Lorraine Cooper, Evangeline Bruce, Avis Bohlen, Janet Barnes [wife of Tracy Barnes], Tish Alsop, Cynthia
Helms[wife of Richard Helms], Marietta FitzGerald, Phyllis Nitze, and Annie Bissell [wife of Richard Bissell, Jr.].
<end quote>
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_M._Bissell,_Jr.
<begin quote>
Under the society's [Skull and Bones'] direction, Bonesmen [members of Skull and Bones] developed and dropped the nuclear bomb and
navigated the Bay of Pigs invasion. Skull and Bones members had ties to Watergate and the Kennedy assassination. They control the
Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission...
<end quote>
from http://www.secretsofthetomb.com/excerpt.asp
skull & bones members:
averell harriman 1891 g gs
allen dulles 1893 gs
prescott bush 1895
william bundy 1917 g
mcgeorge bundy 1919 g
ghw bush 1924
george herbert walker iii 1931 g
scroll & key members:
cord meyer 1920 gs
tracy barnes 1911 g gs
dean acheson 1893 g
others
eugene rostow 1913 g gs
richard bissell, jr. 1909 g gs
g = attended Groton gs = member of "Georgetown Set"
<begin quote>
Many wives accompanied their husbands to these gatherings [of the Georgetown Set]. Members of what was later called the Georgetown
Ladies' Social Club included Katharine Meyer Graham, Mary Pinchot Meyer [wife of Cord Meyer], Anne Truitt, Sally Reston, Polly
Wisner, Joan Braden, Lorraine Cooper, Evangeline Bruce, Avis Bohlen, Janet Barnes [wife of Tracy Barnes], Tish Alsop, Cynthia
Helms[wife of Richard Helms], Marietta FitzGerald, Phyllis Nitze, and Annie Bissell [wife of Richard Bissell, Jr.].
<end quote>
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_M._Bissell,_Jr.
<begin quote>
Under the society's [Skull and Bones'] direction, Bonesmen [members of Skull and Bones] developed and dropped the nuclear bomb and
navigated the Bay of Pigs invasion. Skull and Bones members had ties to Watergate and the Kennedy assassination. They control the
Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission...
<end quote>
from http://www.secretsofthetomb.com/excerpt.asp
Sam McClung
Oct 17, 2014, 3:06:25 PM10/17/14
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I've added this in this thread from my other thread because abe greenbaum is really looking more and more like tracy barnes so fits
in this thread:
looks like the first edition of the man who knew too much included the following two things which did not make it into the second
edition, reading the quote from nagell below about abe greenbaum seems to be the reason this stuff was taken out of the second
edition, it points to tracy barnes as abe greenbaum and nagell as the suspected courier
1. "His [arthur gilman greenstein's] partnership in a bar in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not faring well"
from page 229 of tmwktm
2.
> <begin quote>
> It was Walrod who first introduced Greenstein to Richard Nagell. "Nagell and I saw each other just about every day for about two
> months, daytimes and having meals together," Greenstein was saying, shifting his eyes around the Wilmington library to ensure that
> nobody was within earshot. "He had all these silver dollars with him, I think he was collecting them. He had tried to make a big
> thing out of that, as if they could be some kind of intelligence signal. I don't know what it was about.
> <end quote>
from page 231 of tmwktm
knowing this then reading nagell's encrypted letter of 10-8-1967 that says the following seems to lead to the conclusion of who was
who:
> <begin quote>
> Here's a more up-to-date lead on Abe Greenbaum...Informant F-111-B reports subject [abe greenbaum] and suspected courier observed
> at King's Tavern, Wilmington, Del. on 12/6/62, paying for drinks with strange-looking silver dollars taken from bulging briefcase
> carried by subject. Subject now suspected of being Mr. Big in Communist plot to disrupt U.S. economy by flooding country with hard
> cash. /s/ I.M. NEVERWRONG, SAIC, D.C. LAIR."
> <end quote>
> from http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
so:
abe greenbaum (subject) and richard case nagell (suspected courier) were in a bar named king's tavern in wilmington delaware, of
which arthur greenstein was an owner/partner, and while there abe greenbaum had a briefcase bulging with stange looking (russian)
silver dollars?
abe's fee for having nagell forty pieces of silver delivered to the nuclear physicist on 92nd street in new york?
and abe greenbaum was tracy barnes, nagell's cia boss?
and age greenbaum/tracy barnes was fired from cia in 1966 and counting huge pile of american silver dollars in the vault in his
mansion protected by a pack of snarling german shepherds?
you bethca!
in this thread:
looks like the first edition of the man who knew too much included the following two things which did not make it into the second
edition, reading the quote from nagell below about abe greenbaum seems to be the reason this stuff was taken out of the second
edition, it points to tracy barnes as abe greenbaum and nagell as the suspected courier
1. "His [arthur gilman greenstein's] partnership in a bar in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not faring well"
from page 229 of tmwktm
2.
> <begin quote>
> It was Walrod who first introduced Greenstein to Richard Nagell. "Nagell and I saw each other just about every day for about two
> months, daytimes and having meals together," Greenstein was saying, shifting his eyes around the Wilmington library to ensure that
> nobody was within earshot. "He had all these silver dollars with him, I think he was collecting them. He had tried to make a big
> thing out of that, as if they could be some kind of intelligence signal. I don't know what it was about.
> <end quote>
from page 231 of tmwktm
knowing this then reading nagell's encrypted letter of 10-8-1967 that says the following seems to lead to the conclusion of who was
who:
> <begin quote>
> Here's a more up-to-date lead on Abe Greenbaum...Informant F-111-B reports subject [abe greenbaum] and suspected courier observed
> at King's Tavern, Wilmington, Del. on 12/6/62, paying for drinks with strange-looking silver dollars taken from bulging briefcase
> carried by subject. Subject now suspected of being Mr. Big in Communist plot to disrupt U.S. economy by flooding country with hard
> cash. /s/ I.M. NEVERWRONG, SAIC, D.C. LAIR."
> <end quote>
> from http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
so:
abe greenbaum (subject) and richard case nagell (suspected courier) were in a bar named king's tavern in wilmington delaware, of
which arthur greenstein was an owner/partner, and while there abe greenbaum had a briefcase bulging with stange looking (russian)
silver dollars?
abe's fee for having nagell forty pieces of silver delivered to the nuclear physicist on 92nd street in new york?
and abe greenbaum was tracy barnes, nagell's cia boss?
and age greenbaum/tracy barnes was fired from cia in 1966 and counting huge pile of american silver dollars in the vault in his
mansion protected by a pack of snarling german shepherds?
you bethca!
Sam McClung
Oct 28, 2014, 2:03:47 PM10/28/14
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it's pretty obvious what happened, viz:
<begin quote>
There is evidence, described by Dick Russell (The Man Who Knew Too Much, pp.
408ff), that Richard Case Nagell [Triple-Man Zero] was sent by Tracy Barnes
[Abe Greenbaum] during this period to infiltrate and investigate the Lake
Case Nagell] on ice because has burned butt. Triple-Man Zero [Nagell]
instructed [by Barnes, see above] to join Delta Club, which is affiliate of
Bravo Club, find out if things real. Zero [Nagell] does just that, craftily,
in guise of crossbow expert. Discovers Patsy [Oswald] undergoing
hypnotherapy by ex-ferry pilot named Hairy De [David] Fairy. Reports to Abe
[Barnes] things are for real, yes siree! Abe [Barnes] passes info on to
Dirty Dick [Helms] (and Snerd). Snerd [George Herbert Walker Bush] passes
info on to Big Mother Busher [Prescott Bush]. Somebody flashes word back for
Zero [Nagell] to let go with well-aimed arrow in Patsy's [Oswald's] rump . .
. leave Yanquis Land, hubba hubba! Zero [Nagell] chickens out day he is to
arrow Patsy [Oswald], six days before Xmas present to be delivered. Pens Abe
[Barnes] nasty note. Pens Snerd [GHW Bush] nastier note. Pens Dirty Dick
[Helms] even nastier note. Also pens note to Boss of Yanquis Land's Main
Secret Police Bureau [Hoover/FBI], tattles on Xmas Present Caper [JFK
assassination], tattles on Patsy [Oswald], etc.
<begin quote>
There is evidence, described by Dick Russell (The Man Who Knew Too Much, pp.
[Abe Greenbaum] during this period to infiltrate and investigate the Lake
Pontchartrain training base. At this point, Nagell apparently was no longer
able to contact his CIA case officer (who was, according to Robert Morrow,
Tracy Barnes) ; Nagell then sent the information that he had uncovered to
the FBI.
<end quote>
from footnote 27, page 110 at
http://hum.uchicago.edu/jagoldsm/Papers/JFK/6_NewOrleans.pdf
<begin quote>
Middlist Abe [Greenbaum aka Tracy Barnes] contacts Triple-Man Zero [Richard
able to contact his CIA case officer (who was, according to Robert Morrow,
Tracy Barnes) ; Nagell then sent the information that he had uncovered to
the FBI.
<end quote>
from footnote 27, page 110 at
http://hum.uchicago.edu/jagoldsm/Papers/JFK/6_NewOrleans.pdf
<begin quote>
Case Nagell] on ice because has burned butt. Triple-Man Zero [Nagell]
instructed [by Barnes, see above] to join Delta Club, which is affiliate of
Bravo Club, find out if things real. Zero [Nagell] does just that, craftily,
in guise of crossbow expert. Discovers Patsy [Oswald] undergoing
hypnotherapy by ex-ferry pilot named Hairy De [David] Fairy. Reports to Abe
[Barnes] things are for real, yes siree! Abe [Barnes] passes info on to
Dirty Dick [Helms] (and Snerd). Snerd [George Herbert Walker Bush] passes
info on to Big Mother Busher [Prescott Bush]. Somebody flashes word back for
Zero [Nagell] to let go with well-aimed arrow in Patsy's [Oswald's] rump . .
. leave Yanquis Land, hubba hubba! Zero [Nagell] chickens out day he is to
arrow Patsy [Oswald], six days before Xmas present to be delivered. Pens Abe
[Barnes] nasty note. Pens Snerd [GHW Bush] nastier note. Pens Dirty Dick
[Helms] even nastier note. Also pens note to Boss of Yanquis Land's Main
Secret Police Bureau [Hoover/FBI], tattles on Xmas Present Caper [JFK
assassination], tattles on Patsy [Oswald], etc.
Sam McClung
Dec 1, 2014, 9:17:32 AM12/1/14
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"Sam McClung" <mcc...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:m2olo...@news4.newsguy.com...
tracy barnes hade a foot in may camps:
the oss to the cia to yale to the u.s. president,
with involvement in:
the 1954 guatemalan coup, the 1960 bay of pigs invasion and the 1963 assassination of jfk, to name a few operations,
and with my latest revelations the cuban missile crisis also (as nagell's abe greenbaum)
tracy barnes
abe tracyrns
abe greenbaum
everything below is excerpts with sources:
"In the period December 10, 1960 to February 8, 1961, former Ambassador Whiting Willauer and Mr. Tracy Barnes of the CIA
were charged with keeping the President and the Secretary of State informed."
Of course we all know that between those dates there were two Presidents, Eisenhower and Kennedy, and two Secretaries of
State, Herter and Rusk.
http://www.prouty.org/bay_pigs.html
Kingman Brewster, the president of Yale University, employed Barnes as his personal assistant.
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKbarnesT.htm
Charles Tracy Barnes (August 2, 1911 - February 18, 1972) was a senior staff member at the United States' Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), serving as principal manager of CIA operations in the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état and the
1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracy_Barnes
The London Station Chief from 1957 to 1959 was Tracy Barnes. Barnes was not only a fellow member of Scroll and Key;[29]
he also happened to be a second cousin to Whitney. Moreover, they had become fast friends during their time together at
the Army Air Corps' intelligence school in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.[30] Barnes returned to the US in 1960, serving
directly under Richard Bissell in the Directorate of Plans (DDP).[31] The nature of the work carried out by the DDP
included covert military operations, sabotage, subversion, terrorism and psychological warfare (psyops). Barnes had
already had one stint in DDP, having been the field commander of Operation Success (PBSUCCESS) in the efforts to
overthrow the Arbenz government in 1954.[32] Working under Barnes on propaganda in that operation was David Atlee
Phillips. The Bay of Pigs operation in 1961 would not only draw on the same methods, but many of the same personnel,
including Barnes and Phillips.[33] Phillips, under the direction of Barnes, had also commenced sting operations against
the Fair Play for Cuba Committee (FPCC) juts prior to the Bay of Pigs.[34] Another in this milieu was Frank Wisner.
Wisner had known Barnes from their days in the so-called "Georgetown Set". A gathering of politicians, top bureaucrats
and journalists, the group also boasted, among others, Richard Bissell, Cord Meyer, Allen Dulles, James Angleton, John
McCloy, Felix Frankfurter, and Joseph and Stuart Alsop.[35]
http://www.reopenkennedycase.net/parker-1.html
the oss to the cia to yale to the u.s. president,
with involvement in:
the 1954 guatemalan coup, the 1960 bay of pigs invasion and the 1963 assassination of jfk, to name a few operations,
and with my latest revelations the cuban missile crisis also (as nagell's abe greenbaum)
tracy barnes
abe tracyrns
abe greenbaum
everything below is excerpts with sources:
"In the period December 10, 1960 to February 8, 1961, former Ambassador Whiting Willauer and Mr. Tracy Barnes of the CIA
were charged with keeping the President and the Secretary of State informed."
Of course we all know that between those dates there were two Presidents, Eisenhower and Kennedy, and two Secretaries of
State, Herter and Rusk.
http://www.prouty.org/bay_pigs.html
Kingman Brewster, the president of Yale University, employed Barnes as his personal assistant.
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKbarnesT.htm
Charles Tracy Barnes (August 2, 1911 - February 18, 1972) was a senior staff member at the United States' Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), serving as principal manager of CIA operations in the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état and the
1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracy_Barnes
The London Station Chief from 1957 to 1959 was Tracy Barnes. Barnes was not only a fellow member of Scroll and Key;[29]
he also happened to be a second cousin to Whitney. Moreover, they had become fast friends during their time together at
the Army Air Corps' intelligence school in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.[30] Barnes returned to the US in 1960, serving
directly under Richard Bissell in the Directorate of Plans (DDP).[31] The nature of the work carried out by the DDP
included covert military operations, sabotage, subversion, terrorism and psychological warfare (psyops). Barnes had
already had one stint in DDP, having been the field commander of Operation Success (PBSUCCESS) in the efforts to
overthrow the Arbenz government in 1954.[32] Working under Barnes on propaganda in that operation was David Atlee
Phillips. The Bay of Pigs operation in 1961 would not only draw on the same methods, but many of the same personnel,
including Barnes and Phillips.[33] Phillips, under the direction of Barnes, had also commenced sting operations against
the Fair Play for Cuba Committee (FPCC) juts prior to the Bay of Pigs.[34] Another in this milieu was Frank Wisner.
Wisner had known Barnes from their days in the so-called "Georgetown Set". A gathering of politicians, top bureaucrats
and journalists, the group also boasted, among others, Richard Bissell, Cord Meyer, Allen Dulles, James Angleton, John
McCloy, Felix Frankfurter, and Joseph and Stuart Alsop.[35]
http://www.reopenkennedycase.net/parker-1.html
Sam McClung
Dec 1, 2014, 10:22:18 AM12/1/14
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"you'd better contact Tidbit [tippit] and have him execute alternate . . . plan."
richard helms in his cia langley virginia office, giving the order to kill jfk to tracy barnes aka abe greenbaum on
11-21-63
per my interpretation of nagell's 10-8-67 letter here:
http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
richard helms in his cia langley virginia office, giving the order to kill jfk to tracy barnes aka abe greenbaum on
11-21-63
per my interpretation of nagell's 10-8-67 letter here:
http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
Sam McClung
Apr 5, 2015, 11:58:12 PM4/5/15
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Another indicator tracy barnes was abe greenbaum:
<begin quote>
Born in 1911, C. Tracy Barnes attended Yale University amd Harvard Law School. His career in intelligence began during
WOrld War II, when he served in the U.S. Army Air Forces. He also worked for the Special OPerations Branch of the Office
of Strategic Services (OSS), participating in several parachute operations behind enemy lines in France, and assisting
Allen Dulles in Bern, Switzerland.
<end quote>
from
The Central Intelligence Agency: Security Under Scrutiny
page 241
<begin quote>
<end quote>
from http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/tracy_barnes
Original post of 9-20-2014:
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earlier posts:
Sam McClung
9/6/14
> It appears Arthur Greenstein could be Abe Greenbaum aka "subject" and Nagell, acting in a double or triple agent
> capacity, could be "suspected courier"
> <begin quote> Here's a more up-to-date lead on Abe Greenbaum: "Informant F-HC reports subject handed suspected courier
> forty pieces of silver on 10/21/62 at Laredo, Mexico, for delivery to nuclear physicist residing in house on 92nd
> Street, New York City. S/A B. O. Schernnn, Washington, D.C. Field Office, reports subject seen 11/28/62 walking east
> on Beacon Street, constantly checking for tail, suddenly dashing into parked limousine sporting U.S.S.R. Embassy
> license plates, which speeds away, runs red light, terminating surveillance as Agent Schernnn forced to brake bicycle
> to avoid breaking the law. Informant F-111-B reports subject and suspected courier observed at King's Tavern,
> teeming land where Moctezuma met Cortes. Multicolored mosaic walls mix with the cold steel-and-glass facades of
> skyscrapers. Suffering Christian saints and grotesque pre-Christian gods alike adorn old stone carvings. it is the
> oldest city in North America and, already in 1962, was one of the world's most populous. When Arthur Greenstein
> arrived in Mexico City that August, he was twenty-nine years old and still undecided about his future.
...Arthur Gilman Greenstein...His partnership in a bar in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not faring well
9/6/14
maybe nagell was subject or courier, since nagell and subject or courier had silver dollars, and whichever nagell
wasn't, subject or
courier, arthur greenstein was
<begin nagell quote>
subject and suspected courier observed at King's Tavern, Wilmington, Del. on 12/6/62, paying for drinks with
"Nagell... had all these silver dollars with him, I think he was collecting them. He had tried to make a big thing out
of that, as
if they could be some kind of intelligence signal. I don't know what it was about....
Arthur Gilman Greenstein...His partnership in a bar [King's Tavern?] in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not
faring
well..."
from tmwktm, 1st edition, p. 231
9/6/14
maybe abe greenbaum was a name used by more than one cia operative, like the name alek hidel
<bgin quote>
Nagell continued:
"In the past, and among other fictitious names, I have used and/or have ,been documented with the following names an
variations
thereof: Ben Blum [next name blanked out in the photocopy], Robert C. Corsa [next two names blanked out], Alek Hidell,
Aleksei
Hidel, Joseph Kramer [next name blank],Victor Nadell, Vic Nadelli, N. Nagel, Robert C. Nolan, Paul Schmedke."
Nagell was admitting that he himself had used the same alias as Oswald, in two different variations!" A Garrison
memorandum, setting
down notes of his conversations with Nagell, added: "A number of people were using the name Hidel."
<end quote from p. 95 of The Man Who Knew Too Much>
note the aliases nagell mentions are in alphabetical order, and the name abe greenbaum fits between "Robert C. Corsa"
and "Alek
Hidel", so nagell could have used the alias abe greenabaum
9/6/14
- show quoted text -
on november 27, 1997 as per The Dallas Morning News There is an article "Document supports conspiracy claim" says a
long-secret government document released Wednesday lends credence to a favorite theory of conspiracy advocates on JFK
assassination:the connection: that Lee Harvey Oswald WAS SEEN in Dallas with a US intelligence agent two months before
the murder. The Agent was Maurice Bishop (David Atlee Phillips) and met Antonio Veciana (Alpha 66)and Oswald in Dallas
around September 1963.
9/6/14
<mattsh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ce358e36-ca61-488b...@googlegroups.com...
- show quoted text -
http://web.newsguy.com/mcclung/wrinkled.html
9/7/14
<begin quote>
Record: GREENSTEIN, ARTHUR GILMAN
Sources: The Man Who Knew Too Much, Russell, pp. 26, 187, 229-233, 236, 238-241, 250-251, 260-261, 263, 265, 289, 294,
344-345,
354, 369-370, 372-374, 392-393, 399-400, 409, 421, 445-447, 461, 476, 602, 644, 652, 656, 664, 666=667, 671, 710
Mary's Comments:
Greenstein knew Nagell in Mexico. Nagell wrote numerous letters to Greenstein while in Leavenworth. In 1990 Greenstein
had been
operating an adult book store in Wilmington, DE, until the police closed it.
<end quote>
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do;jsessionid=40E65AFB163268A0ED60E8BF1942D7CC?id=4375
"...in 1962...When Arthur Gilman Greenstein arrived in Mexico City that August, he was twenty-nine years old and still
undecided
about his future...His partnership in a bar in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not faring well"
from tmwktm p. 229
could that bar have been King's Tavern where subject and courier met per nagell's 10-8-67 letter?
while imprisoned nagell wrote arthur greenstein aka arturo verdestein on 10-8-67; meaning greenstein would have to be on
nagell's
approved correspondents list
<begin quote>
"Seriously, Arturo, I had better give with a plausible lead on this Abe Greenbaum fella, in spite of this business about
plausible
denial, or "they" are liable to drop his name from my approved correspondents list. That would be catastrophic,
considering that he
is the only other person besides sis who is so approved.
<end quote>
so nagell said only two people were on his approved correspondents list: abe greenbaum; and nagell's sister
and since nagell was approved to write arthur greenstein by the factthaqt nagell wrote greenstein, greenstein was on
nagell's
approved correspondents list, so greenstein was greenbaum
"Nagell was, to borrow Churchill's phrase, a mystery wrapped in an enigma..."
tmktm, p. 232
richard case nagell
radical green clash
9/20/14
<begin quote>
"Informant F-HC reports subject [abe greenbaum] handed suspected courier [nagell?] forty pieces of silver on 10/21/62 at
Laredo,
Mexico, for delivery to nuclear physicist residing in house on 92nd Street, New York City...Informant F-111-B reports
subject [abe
greenbaum] and suspected courier [nagell?] observed at King's Tavern, Wilmington, Del. on 12/6/62, paying for drinks
with
strange-looking silver dollars taken from bulging briefcase carried by subject [abe greenbaum].
nagell was known to have lots of silver dollars
<begin quote>
It was Walrod who first introduced Greenstein to Richard Nagell. "Nagell...had all these silver dollars with him, I
By Dick Russell
pp. 137+
maybe nagell was a courier in laredo (nagell's cia alias, per other sources, was "laredo"?) and for taking the silver
dollars to the
92nd street n.y. nuclear physicist, the nuclear physicist gave nagell the silver dollars which nagell gave to abe
greenbaum in the
king's tavern in wilmington delaware?
arthur gilman greenstein was in a partnership that owned a bar in wilmington, delaware, the bar could have been King's
Tavern, which
may explain nagell meeting with greenstein in king's tavern, if this interpretation is correct
arthur gilman greenstein had just completed a course in spanish (making greenstein more valuable to the cia in mexico)
at yale
university (guess who else went to yale?) and enrolled in the university of mexico when he met nagell at the hotel luma
in mexico
was arthur gilman greenstein in the cia?
if so, was he the man who helm's gave the jfk murder order to, greenstein then giving the order to tippit on 11-21-63?
9/20/14
looks like greenstein didn't retire as of 10-8-67 (date of nagell's letter to arthur greenstein) so greenstein wasn't
abe greenbaum,
who had retired by 10-8-67, per nagell
" In 1990 Greenstein had been operating an adult book store in Wilmington, DE, until the police closed it."
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do;jsessionid=40E65AFB163268A0ED60E8BF1942D7CC?id=4375
tracy barnes, on the other hand, had been fired from the cia in 1966...
10/17/14
Re: arthur greenstein as abe greenbaum (make that tracy barnes as abe greenbaum)
<begin quote>
Born in 1911, C. Tracy Barnes attended Yale University amd Harvard Law School. His career in intelligence began during
WOrld War II, when he served in the U.S. Army Air Forces. He also worked for the Special OPerations Branch of the Office
of Strategic Services (OSS), participating in several parachute operations behind enemy lines in France, and assisting
Allen Dulles in Bern, Switzerland.
<end quote>
from
The Central Intelligence Agency: Security Under Scrutiny
page 241
<begin quote>
Charles Tracy Barnes (August 2, 1911 - February 18, 1972) was a senior staff member at the United States' Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), serving as principal manager of CIA operations in ]the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état and the
1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion. [and the jfk assassination.]
Intelligence Agency (CIA), serving as principal manager of CIA operations in ]the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état and the
<end quote>
from http://self.gutenberg.org/articles/tracy_barnes
Original post of 9-20-2014:
Nagell's chain of command flow chart would look like this:
prescott bush (big mother busher)
prescott bush (big mother busher)
richard helms (dirty dick)
and ghw bush (snerd)
tracy barnes (abe greenbaum)
and ghw bush (snerd)
nagell (triple-man zero)
***note that tracy barnes was in yale's scroll and key and prescott bush and ghw bush members of yale's skull & bones***
***note that tracy barnes was in yale's scroll and key and prescott bush and ghw bush members of yale's skull & bones***
<begin quote>
Nagell implied to Russell that he had been ordered to eliminate Oswald before he could pull the trigger. Nagell said
this order was delivered by a Soviet agent, perhaps Mark Gayn, or, more startlingly, Tracy Barnes, of the CIA, Michael
Straight's cousin.
<end quote>
from http://www.umsl.edu/~thomaskp/gaynst.htm
Nagell implied to Russell that he had been ordered to eliminate Oswald before he could pull the trigger. Nagell said
this order was delivered by a Soviet agent, perhaps Mark Gayn, or, more startlingly, Tracy Barnes, of the CIA, Michael
Straight's cousin.
<end quote>
from http://www.umsl.edu/~thomaskp/gaynst.htm
"Somebody flashes word back for Zero [Nagell] to let go with well-aimed arrow in Patsy's rump."
from nagell 10-8-67 letter
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
from nagell 10-8-67 letter
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
earlier posts:
Sam McClung
9/6/14
> It appears Arthur Greenstein could be Abe Greenbaum aka "subject" and Nagell, acting in a double or triple agent
> capacity, could be "suspected courier"
> <begin quote> Here's a more up-to-date lead on Abe Greenbaum: "Informant F-HC reports subject handed suspected courier
> forty pieces of silver on 10/21/62 at Laredo, Mexico, for delivery to nuclear physicist residing in house on 92nd
> Street, New York City. S/A B. O. Schernnn, Washington, D.C. Field Office, reports subject seen 11/28/62 walking east
> on Beacon Street, constantly checking for tail, suddenly dashing into parked limousine sporting U.S.S.R. Embassy
> license plates, which speeds away, runs red light, terminating surveillance as Agent Schernnn forced to brake bicycle
> to avoid breaking the law. Informant F-111-B reports subject and suspected courier observed at King's Tavern,
> Wilmington, Del. on 12/6/62, paying for drinks with strange-looking silver dollars taken from bulging briefcase
> carried by subject. Subject now suspected of being Mr. Big in Communist plot to disrupt U.S. economy by flooding
> country with hard cash. /s/ I.M. NEVERWRONG, SAIC, D.C. LAIR." <end quote> from
> http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
> <begin quote> Mexico City, splendid and squalid, seems to epitomize double images. Twin volcanoes keep watch over the
> carried by subject. Subject now suspected of being Mr. Big in Communist plot to disrupt U.S. economy by flooding
> country with hard cash. /s/ I.M. NEVERWRONG, SAIC, D.C. LAIR." <end quote> from
> http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
> teeming land where Moctezuma met Cortes. Multicolored mosaic walls mix with the cold steel-and-glass facades of
> skyscrapers. Suffering Christian saints and grotesque pre-Christian gods alike adorn old stone carvings. it is the
> oldest city in North America and, already in 1962, was one of the world's most populous. When Arthur Greenstein
> arrived in Mexico City that August, he was twenty-nine years old and still undecided about his future.
...Arthur Gilman Greenstein...His partnership in a bar in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not faring well
9/6/14
maybe nagell was subject or courier, since nagell and subject or courier had silver dollars, and whichever nagell
wasn't, subject or
courier, arthur greenstein was
<begin nagell quote>
subject and suspected courier observed at King's Tavern, Wilmington, Del. on 12/6/62, paying for drinks with
strange-looking silver
dollars taken from bulging briefcase carried by subject. Subject now suspected of being Mr. Big in Communist plot to
disrupt U.S.
economy by flooding country with hard cash.
<end nagell quote>
dollars taken from bulging briefcase carried by subject. Subject now suspected of being Mr. Big in Communist plot to
disrupt U.S.
economy by flooding country with hard cash.
"Nagell... had all these silver dollars with him, I think he was collecting them. He had tried to make a big thing out
of that, as
if they could be some kind of intelligence signal. I don't know what it was about....
Arthur Gilman Greenstein...His partnership in a bar [King's Tavern?] in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not
faring
well..."
from tmwktm, 1st edition, p. 231
9/6/14
maybe abe greenbaum was a name used by more than one cia operative, like the name alek hidel
<bgin quote>
Nagell continued:
"In the past, and among other fictitious names, I have used and/or have ,been documented with the following names an
variations
thereof: Ben Blum [next name blanked out in the photocopy], Robert C. Corsa [next two names blanked out], Alek Hidell,
Aleksei
Hidel, Joseph Kramer [next name blank],Victor Nadell, Vic Nadelli, N. Nagel, Robert C. Nolan, Paul Schmedke."
Nagell was admitting that he himself had used the same alias as Oswald, in two different variations!" A Garrison
memorandum, setting
down notes of his conversations with Nagell, added: "A number of people were using the name Hidel."
<end quote from p. 95 of The Man Who Knew Too Much>
note the aliases nagell mentions are in alphabetical order, and the name abe greenbaum fits between "Robert C. Corsa"
and "Alek
Hidel", so nagell could have used the alias abe greenabaum
9/6/14
- show quoted text -
on november 27, 1997 as per The Dallas Morning News There is an article "Document supports conspiracy claim" says a
long-secret government document released Wednesday lends credence to a favorite theory of conspiracy advocates on JFK
assassination:the connection: that Lee Harvey Oswald WAS SEEN in Dallas with a US intelligence agent two months before
the murder. The Agent was Maurice Bishop (David Atlee Phillips) and met Antonio Veciana (Alpha 66)and Oswald in Dallas
around September 1963.
9/6/14
<mattsh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ce358e36-ca61-488b...@googlegroups.com...
- show quoted text -
http://web.newsguy.com/mcclung/wrinkled.html
9/7/14
<begin quote>
Record: GREENSTEIN, ARTHUR GILMAN
Sources: The Man Who Knew Too Much, Russell, pp. 26, 187, 229-233, 236, 238-241, 250-251, 260-261, 263, 265, 289, 294,
344-345,
354, 369-370, 372-374, 392-393, 399-400, 409, 421, 445-447, 461, 476, 602, 644, 652, 656, 664, 666=667, 671, 710
Mary's Comments:
Greenstein knew Nagell in Mexico. Nagell wrote numerous letters to Greenstein while in Leavenworth. In 1990 Greenstein
had been
operating an adult book store in Wilmington, DE, until the police closed it.
<end quote>
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do;jsessionid=40E65AFB163268A0ED60E8BF1942D7CC?id=4375
"...in 1962...When Arthur Gilman Greenstein arrived in Mexico City that August, he was twenty-nine years old and still
undecided
about his future...His partnership in a bar in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware, was not faring well"
from tmwktm p. 229
could that bar have been King's Tavern where subject and courier met per nagell's 10-8-67 letter?
while imprisoned nagell wrote arthur greenstein aka arturo verdestein on 10-8-67; meaning greenstein would have to be on
nagell's
approved correspondents list
<begin quote>
"Seriously, Arturo, I had better give with a plausible lead on this Abe Greenbaum fella, in spite of this business about
plausible
denial, or "they" are liable to drop his name from my approved correspondents list. That would be catastrophic,
considering that he
is the only other person besides sis who is so approved.
<end quote>
so nagell said only two people were on his approved correspondents list: abe greenbaum; and nagell's sister
and since nagell was approved to write arthur greenstein by the factthaqt nagell wrote greenstein, greenstein was on
nagell's
approved correspondents list, so greenstein was greenbaum
"Nagell was, to borrow Churchill's phrase, a mystery wrapped in an enigma..."
tmktm, p. 232
richard case nagell
radical green clash
9/20/14
<begin quote>
"Informant F-HC reports subject [abe greenbaum] handed suspected courier [nagell?] forty pieces of silver on 10/21/62 at
Laredo,
Mexico, for delivery to nuclear physicist residing in house on 92nd Street, New York City...Informant F-111-B reports
subject [abe
greenbaum] and suspected courier [nagell?] observed at King's Tavern, Wilmington, Del. on 12/6/62, paying for drinks
with
strange-looking silver dollars taken from bulging briefcase carried by subject [abe greenbaum].
nagell was known to have lots of silver dollars
<begin quote>
It was Walrod who first introduced Greenstein to Richard Nagell. "Nagell...had all these silver dollars with him, I
think he was
collecting them. He had tried to make a big thing out of that, as if they could be some kind of intelligence signal. I
don't know
what it was about.
<end quote>
The Man who Knew Too Much
collecting them. He had tried to make a big thing out of that, as if they could be some kind of intelligence signal. I
don't know
what it was about.
<end quote>
By Dick Russell
pp. 137+
maybe nagell was a courier in laredo (nagell's cia alias, per other sources, was "laredo"?) and for taking the silver
dollars to the
92nd street n.y. nuclear physicist, the nuclear physicist gave nagell the silver dollars which nagell gave to abe
greenbaum in the
king's tavern in wilmington delaware?
arthur gilman greenstein was in a partnership that owned a bar in wilmington, delaware, the bar could have been King's
Tavern, which
may explain nagell meeting with greenstein in king's tavern, if this interpretation is correct
arthur gilman greenstein had just completed a course in spanish (making greenstein more valuable to the cia in mexico)
at yale
university (guess who else went to yale?) and enrolled in the university of mexico when he met nagell at the hotel luma
in mexico
was arthur gilman greenstein in the cia?
if so, was he the man who helm's gave the jfk murder order to, greenstein then giving the order to tippit on 11-21-63?
9/20/14
looks like greenstein didn't retire as of 10-8-67 (date of nagell's letter to arthur greenstein) so greenstein wasn't
abe greenbaum,
who had retired by 10-8-67, per nagell
" In 1990 Greenstein had been operating an adult book store in Wilmington, DE, until the police closed it."
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do;jsessionid=40E65AFB163268A0ED60E8BF1942D7CC?id=4375
tracy barnes, on the other hand, had been fired from the cia in 1966...
10/17/14
Re: arthur greenstein as abe greenbaum (make that tracy barnes as abe greenbaum)
Sam McClung
Apr 6, 2015, 12:00:12 AM4/6/15
to
> Another indicator tracy barnes was abe greenbaum:
> <begin quote>
> Born in 1911, C. Tracy Barnes attended Yale University amd Harvard Law School. His career in intelligence began during
> WOrld War II, when he served in the U.S. Army Air Forces. He also worked for the Special OPerations Branch of the
> Office of Strategic Services (OSS), participating in several parachute operations
" Abe shifts weight to left foot, uncomfortably. "
> <begin quote>
> Born in 1911, C. Tracy Barnes attended Yale University amd Harvard Law School. His career in intelligence began during
> WOrld War II, when he served in the U.S. Army Air Forces. He also worked for the Special OPerations Branch of the
> Office of Strategic Services (OSS), participating in several parachute operations
http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
Sam McClung
Apr 12, 2015, 12:58:46 AM4/12/15
to
>> Another indicator tracy barnes was abe greenbaum:
>> <begin quote>
>> Born in 1911, C. Tracy Barnes attended Yale University amd Harvard Law
>> School. His career in intelligence began during WOrld War II, when he
>> served in the U.S. Army Air Forces. He also worked for the Special
>> OPerations Branch of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS),
>> participating in several parachute operations
>
> " Abe shifts weight to left foot, uncomfortably. "
> http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
both having been in airborne operations in ww2 europe, maybe tracy barnes
>> <begin quote>
>> Born in 1911, C. Tracy Barnes attended Yale University amd Harvard Law
>> School. His career in intelligence began during WOrld War II, when he
>> served in the U.S. Army Air Forces. He also worked for the Special
>> OPerations Branch of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS),
>> participating in several parachute operations
>
> " Abe shifts weight to left foot, uncomfortably. "
> http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-nagltr.html
and j.d. tippit first met back then
<begin quote>
[Tippit]...entered the United States Army on July 21, 1944, and was assigned
to the 513th Parachute Infantry Regiment[PIR] of the US 17th Airborne
Division. He saw combat in Operation Varsity, the airborne crossing of the
Rhine River in March 1945, earning a Bronze Star, and remained on active
duty until June 20, 1946.
<end quote>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Tippit
tippit was in a meeting on 11-14-1963 in jack ruby's club, with jack ruby
and bernard weisman
so tippit knowing tracy barnes, who met with richard helms early the morning
of 11-21-1963 in helms' c.i.a. langley virginia office per nagell's
10-8-1967 letter, to discuss what tippit was to do on frame oswald day,
pretty well details the involvement of the c.i.a. and its "soldier" j.d.
tippit, another of its soldiers being roscoe white, and still another being
oswald, noting the first two were snipers who shot at jfk while the last one
was the patsy
note snerd's aka scherff's aka bush's involvement as well as his adopted
dad's, big mother 6'5" tall prescott busher
from
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/subindex/news/fox_4_projects/jfk_video
under Conspiracies then the Roscoe White video:
Roscoe White's Minister, reverend Jack Shaw,
"He said that he had done it what he had done he had done in the line of
duty he had done uh for his country. He had thought all the time that he had
been working with the CIA. He later discovered he had been tricked."
seems oswald also thought he was involved in what roscoe white was tricked
into
<begin quote>
Contrary to popular opinion, Oswald, Mooney added, had been a bright kid.
His downfall had been his unyielding patriotism and malleability; he was
easily manipulated.
<end quote>
sam "mooney" giancana being quoted in double cross
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