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Tom Keske

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Jul 28, 2012, 10:09:07 AM7/28/12
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< Mark Lane is showing that the acceptance of the drawings in place of the
< photographs and X-rays was contrary to normal court procedure, and that
the
< Warren Commission knew that they were inferior to the real evidence.

Really? Inexplicably allow some inferior evidence?
Would the Warren Commission actually do such a thing?
That is really quite remarkable!

Or maybe not, considering that the Warren Commission's
top representative to the shadowy, murderous world of
CIA intrigue and the unfathomably corrupted intelligence empire
was the former CIA Director for whom JFK had such contempt
and low regard that he had dismissed him.

Who is your target audience, here, Ben Holmes?
The Cub Scouts of America?

Tom Keske




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Tom Keske

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< Allen Dulles was put on the Warren Commisson report by LBJ!
< He was the traitor who had hired Nazis to ...


One of the ways that you can realize that LBJ was a 2nd-string
player, mostly just going along for the ride, and not the
real brains behind the operation:

In a world of shadows and mirrors, one of the more reliable
guideposts is that America's *numerous* murky, unnatural
and untimely deaths, of which the JFK assassination is only
one of the more prominent representatives, is that that these
high-probable killings are tied together with a common
thread. JFK, RFK, MLK, included.

Russians would have reason to hate JFK. MLK, not so much.
But American right-wingers do.

LBJ would have had reason to want JFK out of the way.
He also had mutual dislike for RFK. However, what really
motivates the world of criminal wealth is its lust for
its own, personal power.

Enquiring minds would look at the timeline of the election
underway when RFK was killed. LBJ had *already* dropped
out. RFK was killed a few months later.

LBJ's personal lust for power would have given him
little reason to take a chance on a second assassination,
especially if he were acting alone.

Nixon benefitted twice. The JFK assassination got
revenge on the man who had humiliated him.
The RFK assassination paved the way for his
own rise to power.

As long as right-wing Republicans hold power,
increasingly to manipulate news and to pollute internet,
you will never get the truth. Right-wing hate, right-wing
power-lust is the common thread, pointing directly
to the political style of the Republican party.

If they cannot get their way by pandering to cranks,
if they cannot get their way by dirty tricks, if they
cannot get their way by whipping up social hatreds,
if they cannot get their way by character assassination,
then they will get their way by literal assassination.


Tom Keske

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Jul 28, 2012, 10:33:21 AM7/28/12
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"If they cannot get their way by pandering to cranks,
if they cannot get their way by dirty tricks, if they
cannot get their way by whipping up social hatreds,
if they cannot get their way by character assassination,"

The only reason that Americans can maintain their
illusion of having legitimate, above-board leaders, and
the only reason that there have not been more literal
assassinations, is that the American people have been
such easy suckers for the above techniques, which
heretofore have been so sadly successful.





Ben Holmes

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Jul 28, 2012, 11:07:15 AM7/28/12
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In article <7oSQr.1592$Yf7....@newsfe16.iad>, Tom Keske says...
>
>< Mark Lane is showing that the acceptance of the drawings in place of the
>< photographs and X-rays was contrary to normal court procedure, and that
>the
>< Warren Commission knew that they were inferior to the real evidence.
>
>Really? Inexplicably allow some inferior evidence?
>Would the Warren Commission actually do such a thing?
>That is really quite remarkable!
>
>Or maybe not, considering that the Warren Commission's
>top representative to the shadowy, murderous world of
>CIA intrigue and the unfathomably corrupted intelligence empire
>was the former CIA Director for whom JFK had such contempt
>and low regard that he had dismissed him.
>
>Who is your target audience, here, Ben Holmes?
>The Cub Scouts of America?
>
>Tom Keske


My target is the non-kooks. Sorry, you don't fit.


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Ben Holmes

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Jul 28, 2012, 12:50:44 PM7/28/12
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In article <wESQr.48155$ls7....@newsfe11.iad>, Tom Keske says...
>
>
>
>
>< Allen Dulles was put on the Warren Commisson report by LBJ!
>< He was the traitor who had hired Nazis to ...
>
>
>One of the ways that you can realize that LBJ was a 2nd-string
>player, mostly just going along for the ride, and not the
>real brains behind the operation:


Of course!

LBJ wasn't the rabid right winger that you need for your theory...

Those sneaky right-wingers put LBJ and his "Great Society" in office in order to
confuse everyone as to who was responsible. They did a great job, but it didn't
get past you, did it?


>In a world of shadows and mirrors, one of the more reliable
>guideposts is that America's *numerous* murky, unnatural
>and untimely deaths, of which the JFK assassination is only
>one of the more prominent representatives, is that that these
>high-probable killings are tied together with a common
>thread. JFK, RFK, MLK, included.
>
>Russians would have reason to hate JFK. MLK, not so much.
>But American right-wingers do.


Hate to be the one to inform you of this, but MLK was hated by Democrats too.

Indeed, historically, it was the Democrats who where far more the racists than
Republicans. The Republican party was *FOUNDED* on an anti-slavery platform,
something you may not know having been educated in our left-wing government
educational system.

And while being a Democrat doesn't mean that you're racist, it certainly has
historically been far more true than not.


>LBJ would have had reason to want JFK out of the way.
>He also had mutual dislike for RFK. However, what really
>motivates the world of criminal wealth is its lust for
>its own, personal power.
>
>Enquiring minds would look at the timeline of the election
>underway when RFK was killed. LBJ had *already* dropped
>out. RFK was killed a few months later.
>
>LBJ's personal lust for power would have given him
>little reason to take a chance on a second assassination,
>especially if he were acting alone.


It would be particularly damaging to LBJ's image if RFK got into office, and
launched a *real* investigation to find out what happened to his brother.

So don't try to understate LBJ's motives... they were indeed quite powerful.


>Nixon benefitted twice. The JFK assassination got
>revenge on the man who had humiliated him.
>The RFK assassination paved the way for his
>own rise to power.
>As long as right-wing Republicans hold power,
>increasingly to manipulate news and to pollute internet,
>you will never get the truth.


So when President Obama held majorities in both the House and the Senate, we got
the truth?

Can you cite it? ... I must have missed it...

Indeed, it's only been since the rise of the Internet that the main-stream news
has not *dominated* the landscape.

One of the most famous pieces of news that the mainstream didn't want you to
hear was the infamous blue dress of Monica Lewinsky. If it hadn't been for the
Internet, Clinton would probably have never been impeached.

And what is the one news channel that everyone on the left HATES. It's the only
news channel that has both left *AND* right views provided... yep, the infamous
"Fox News". (My guess is that you've never watched it)

Can you point to any similar hatred by the right-wing towards any left-leaning
news outlet?


>Right-wing hate, right-wing
>power-lust is the common thread, pointing directly
>to the political style of the Republican party.


Wanna try a little experiment? Pick any three conservative talk-show hosts, and
any three liberal talk-show hosts. Listen to them.

You'll quickly discover that it's not the right that's spewing hatred.

I hear more hatred in 10 minutes of listening to Randi Rhodes that I do all
month long listening to Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Praeger, Michael Medved, Larry
Elder, etc.


>If they cannot get their way by pandering to cranks,
>if they cannot get their way by dirty tricks, if they
>cannot get their way by whipping up social hatreds,
>if they cannot get their way by character assassination,
>then they will get their way by literal assassination.


I'm guessing that you're a liberal... right?

aeffects

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Jul 28, 2012, 3:57:16 PM7/28/12
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On Jul 28, 9:50 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
> In article <wESQr.48155$ls7.22...@newsfe11.iad>, Tom Keske says...
glad you left mark levin, michael savage and glen the beckster out of
your lineup.... LMAO! :)

Ben Holmes

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Jul 28, 2012, 4:36:11 PM7/28/12
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In article <7a0b7d85-d205-453e...@wt8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
aeffects says...
>
>On Jul 28, 9:50=A0am, Ben Holmes <ad...@burningknife.com> wrote:
>> In article <wESQr.48155$ls7.22...@newsfe11.iad>, Tom Keske says...
>>
>>
>>
>> >< Allen Dulles was put on the Warren Commisson report by LBJ!
>> >< He was the =A0traitor who had hired Nazis to ...
>>
>> >One of the ways that you can realize that LBJ was a 2nd-string
>> >player, mostly just going along for the ride, and not the
>> >real brains behind the operation:
>>
>> Of course!
>>
>> LBJ wasn't the rabid right winger that you need for your theory...
>>
>> Those sneaky right-wingers put LBJ and his "Great Society" in office in o=
>rder to
>> confuse everyone as to who was responsible. They did a great job, but it =
>didn't
>> get past you, did it?
>>
>> >In a world of shadows and mirrors, one of the more reliable
>> >guideposts is that America's *numerous* murky, unnatural
>> >and untimely deaths, of which the JFK assassination is only
>> >one of the more prominent representatives, is that that these
>> >high-probable killings are tied together with a common
>> >thread. =A0 JFK, RFK, MLK, included.
>>
>> >Russians would have reason to hate JFK. =A0MLK, not so much.
>> >But American right-wingers do.
>>
>> Hate to be the one to inform you of this, but MLK was hated by Democrats =
>too.
>>
>> Indeed, historically, it was the Democrats who where far more the racists=
> than
>> Republicans. The Republican party was *FOUNDED* on an anti-slavery platfo=
>rm,
>> something you may not know having been educated in our left-wing governme=
>nt
>> educational system.
>>
>> And while being a Democrat doesn't mean that you're racist, it certainly =
>has
>> historically been far more true than not.
>>
>> >LBJ would have had reason to want JFK out of the way.
>> >He also had mutual dislike for RFK. =A0However, what really
>> >motivates the world of criminal wealth is its lust for
>> >its own, personal power.
>>
>> >Enquiring minds would look at the timeline of the election
>> >underway when RFK was killed. =A0 LBJ had *already* dropped
>> >out. =A0RFK was killed a few months later.
>>
>> >LBJ's personal lust for power would have given him
>> >little reason to take a chance on a second assassination,
>> >especially if he were acting alone.
>>
>> It would be particularly damaging to LBJ's image if RFK got into office, =
>and
>> launched a *real* investigation to find out what happened to his brother.
>>
>> So don't try to understate LBJ's motives... they were indeed quite powerf=
>ul.
>>
>> >Nixon benefitted twice. =A0The JFK assassination got
>> >revenge on the man who had humiliated him.
>> >The RFK assassination paved the way for his
>> >own rise to power.
>> >As long as right-wing Republicans hold power,
>> >increasingly to manipulate news and to pollute internet,
>> >you will never get the truth.
>>
>> So when President Obama held majorities in both the House and the Senate,=
> we got
>> the truth?
>>
>> Can you cite it? ... I must have missed it...
>>
>> Indeed, it's only been since the rise of the Internet that the main-strea=
>m news
>> has not *dominated* the landscape.
>>
>> One of the most famous pieces of news that the mainstream didn't want you=
> to
>> hear was the infamous blue dress of Monica Lewinsky. If it hadn't been fo=
>r the
>> Internet, Clinton would probably have never been impeached.
>>
>> And what is the one news channel that everyone on the left HATES. It's th=
>e only
>> news channel that has both left *AND* right views provided... yep, the in=
>famous
>> "Fox News". (My guess is that you've never watched it)
>>
>> Can you point to any similar hatred by the right-wing towards any left-le=
>aning
>> news outlet?
>>
>> >Right-wing hate, right-wing
>> >power-lust is the common thread, pointing directly
>> >to the political style of the Republican party.
>>
>> Wanna try a little experiment? Pick any three conservative talk-show host=
>s, and
>> any three liberal talk-show hosts. Listen to them.
>>
>> You'll quickly discover that it's not the right that's spewing hatred.
>>
>> I hear more hatred in 10 minutes of listening to Randi Rhodes that I do a=
>ll
>> month long listening to Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Praeger, Michael Medved, La=
>rry
>> Elder, etc.
>
>glad you left mark levin, michael savage and glen the beckster out of
>your lineup.... LMAO! :)


Didn't come to mind... but even their ravings can't match Randi Rhodes.

Although to be honest, Randi is a raving lunatic, and perhaps not representative
at all.

By the way, Glen Beck doesn't belong with Mark Levin and Michael Savage. I don't
listen to any three of them often, but I've heard enough to make *that*
judgement.

Tom Keske

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< I'm guessing that you're a liberal... right?

I do not wear labels, do not identify, affiliate or follow anyone,
do not answer to anyone. I have been accused of being
both right-wing and radical left. I ignore the accusations,
think for myself and say what I think.

Tom Keske

Ben Holmes

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In article <1n1Rr.92870$l_1....@newsfe21.iad>, Tom Keske says...
But the one thing you *won't* do is defend your assertions.


Rather cowardly of you, isn't it?

Tom Keske

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< But the one thing you *won't* do is defend your assertions.
< Rather cowardly of you, isn't it?

Rather bullshitting of you to throw out a propaganda line
like that. I have yet to see any assertion seriously challenged.
Perfectly happy to make my case for anything that I ever say.

As for "cowardice", I will describe one of the ways in which
I have been stalked by intelligence world games.

Found a penny with a bullet-hole on my porch, once.
A police officer who looked at it agreed - probably
a small-caliber bullet, not a drill.

Then started finding pennies, everywhere, like Easter eggs,
even travelling abroad. Paris. Belgium. Raining pennies
from heaven.

Clear message: "We are watching you, we can take out
any time, we are expert marksmen, we know everything
that you do and everywhere that you go."

The smiley-faces in the media will ignore such things
such as the above description without even being so curious
as to ask to see the original penny. Whether they are
blind fools or cowards, they are hardly worth their lives.

At this point, however, I have no fear whatever.
It is a delightful freedom to beyond the fear of
death, a freedom that most people will never know.

It became an ironic turnaround. The government
watches my every move, and is bewildered. Things
happen "like magic". Such is the world of intrigue
and the wild world of high-tech "mind control".

At this point, it is really more for me to intimidate
them than for them to intimidate me.

The mighty shall be humbled. A child shall lead.

Tom Keske

Tom Keske

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< My target is the non-kooks. Sorry, you don't fit.


Eat shit and die, Ben Holmes. The lie of that statement
is obvious. Our government has unleashed a veritable
army of paid trolls on the internet to kill any vestige
of the free speech that would threat their monopoly
on official propaganda.

They have whipped up the whole country in similar
mind-set, like Nazis whipping up the German people
to a hateful frenzy.

Consequently, there is hardly such a thing left
on Usenet at all as a person who wants to be
taken seriously. Nobody with a reputation to worry
about could be caught dead in this feces-flinging,
juvenile food fight. That means you, too, Ben Holmes.

I am here because I see through the game and
here in deep alienation. You, I think are here either
because you are egotistical kook, or a paid troll.

Tell me who you think killed Kennedy, and I will
tell you more precisely what I think that you are.

Tom Keske


Ben Holmes

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Jul 29, 2012, 1:55:26 PM7/29/12
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In article <IudRr.37627$cE7....@newsfe13.iad>, Tom Keske says...
>
>
>
>< But the one thing you *won't* do is defend your assertions.
>< Rather cowardly of you, isn't it?
>
>Rather bullshitting of you to throw out a propaganda line
>like that. I have yet to see any assertion seriously challenged.
>Perfectly happy to make my case for anything that I ever say.


Ironically, you snipped everything rather than reply to it.


>As for "cowardice", I will describe one of the ways in which
>I have been stalked by intelligence world games.
>
>Found a penny with a bullet-hole on my porch, once.
>A police officer who looked at it agreed - probably
>a small-caliber bullet, not a drill.
>
>Then started finding pennies, everywhere, like Easter eggs,
>even travelling abroad. Paris. Belgium. Raining pennies
>from heaven.
>
>Clear message: "We are watching you, we can take out
>any time, we are expert marksmen, we know everything
>that you do and everywhere that you go."


I think you need to put your aluminum foil hat back on.



>The smiley-faces in the media will ignore such things
>such as the above description without even being so curious
>as to ask to see the original penny. Whether they are
>blind fools or cowards, they are hardly worth their lives.
>
>At this point, however, I have no fear whatever.
>It is a delightful freedom to beyond the fear of
>death, a freedom that most people will never know.
>
>It became an ironic turnaround. The government
>watches my every move, and is bewildered. Things
>happen "like magic". Such is the world of intrigue
>and the wild world of high-tech "mind control".
>
>At this point, it is really more for me to intimidate
>them than for them to intimidate me.
>
>The mighty shall be humbled. A child shall lead.
>
>Tom Keske


This guy is kookier than Robby Caprio!!! And that's not easy to do!

Ben Holmes

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In article <5AdRr.66172$iI7....@newsfe03.iad>, Tom Keske says...
>
>
>
>
>< My target is the non-kooks. Sorry, you don't fit.
>
>
>Eat shit and die, Ben Holmes. The lie of that statement
>is obvious. Our government has unleashed a veritable
>army of paid trolls on the internet to kill any vestige
>of the free speech that would threat their monopoly
>on official propaganda.


Yep. That's it. I'm on a government payroll to demonstrate that the government
was involved in the conspiracy to murder JFK.

Brilliant expose' there, Tom.



>They have whipped up the whole country in similar
>mind-set, like Nazis whipping up the German people
>to a hateful frenzy.


Since poll after poll puts an acceptance of conspiracy in this case in an
overwhelming majority, your claim that the government has managed to "whip up
the whole country" seems rather silly.



>Consequently, there is hardly such a thing left
>on Usenet at all as a person who wants to be
>taken seriously. Nobody with a reputation to worry
>about could be caught dead in this feces-flinging,
>juvenile food fight. That means you, too, Ben Holmes.


You are, in a written only forum, only known by the words you use, the arguments
you can raise, and the citations you can cite.

My guess is that the ordinary person will be easily able to differentiate me
from you.



>I am here because I see through the game and
>here in deep alienation. You, I think are here either
>because you are egotistical kook, or a paid troll.


Other than the fact that I quickly categorized you by your own words, just what
evidence do you have for your assertion?



>Tell me who you think killed Kennedy, and I will
>tell you more precisely what I think that you are.
>
>Tom Keske


Coming from the kook who disclaimed "labels", this is hilarious!!!


If the evidence frightens you so much, run away to a censored forum where you
won't hear the truth.

In the meantime, tell us what the accurate description of the original bullet
wound in JFK's throat looked like.

Give me the answer to *THAT* question, and EVERYONE will know more precisely
just who you are.
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