Best Alternative to Thunderbird?

[Bear]

Looks like the best alternative to Thunderbird is a Chinese software called
DreamMail. :)

DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was designed
to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The supported protocols are
SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and Yahoo... With the additional remote
mailbox access function, you might use it to logon your mail account
remotely and check the mail content, preview even to delete it directly
from the server; The combination use of mail filter, blacklist and white
list, can sort out the junk mail effectively. Multi-accounts & Multi-users,
Templates and signatures management, Antispam filter, scan every dangerous
file, Messages filtering, and View in HTML or TEXT mode. Portable version.
Size 8.9 MB. Windows XP/Vista/7.

http://www.dreammail.eu/intl/en/home.html

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[David H. Lipman]

From: "Bear" <bearbo...@gmai.com>

> Looks like the best alternative to Thunderbird is a Chinese software
> called
> DreamMail. :)
>
> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was
> designed
> to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The supported protocols are
> SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and Yahoo... With the additional remote
> mailbox access function, you might use it to logon your mail account
> remotely and check the mail content, preview even to delete it directly
> from the server; The combination use of mail filter, blacklist and white
> list, can sort out the junk mail effectively. Multi-accounts &
> Multi-users,
> Templates and signatures management, Antispam filter, scan every dangerous
> file, Messages filtering, and View in HTML or TEXT mode. Portable version.
> Size 8.9 MB. Windows XP/Vista/7.
>
> http://www.dreammail.eu/intl/en/home.html
>

For the email part the *best* alternative is Pegasus Mail.

http://www.pmail.com/


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[Bear]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:jZednZq4kq6V4mXS...@giganews.com:

> From: "Bear" <bearbo...@gmai.com>
>
>> Looks like the best alternative to Thunderbird is a Chinese software
>> called
>> DreamMail. :)
>>
>> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was
>> designed
>> to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The supported
>> protocols are SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and Yahoo... With the
>> additional remote mailbox access function, you might use it to logon
>> your mail account remotely and check the mail content, preview even
>> to delete it directly from the server; The combination use of mail
>> filter, blacklist and white list, can sort out the junk mail
>> effectively. Multi-accounts & Multi-users,
>> Templates and signatures management, Antispam filter, scan every
>> dangerous file, Messages filtering, and View in HTML or TEXT mode.
>> Portable version. Size 8.9 MB. Windows XP/Vista/7.
>>
>> http://www.dreammail.eu/intl/en/home.html
>>
>
> For the email part the *best* alternative is Pegasus Mail.
>
> http://www.pmail.com/
>
>

If he decides to stay with it or not...I mean how many times....

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Bear" <bearbo...@gmai.com>

20+ years of being freeware and we are waiting on the release of v5.0 with
the last update, v4.63, being posted in January.

David Harris is still supporting and updating the software.

[Bear]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in

news:Bc-dnVgNCZ8LHGXS...@giganews.com:

I know, but how many scares has he put out there about stopping?

Pegasus Mail is the /oldest/ granted, and one of the best. I just don't
want to get committed to something where the author threatens to stop
development if he doesn't get more money.

[Chris Caputo]

Bear, when did you stop lying to ACF?

[Chris Caputo]

[David H. Lipman]

Really only once.
I sent David Harris a check (Postal mail to New Zealand) and he sent me a
very nice thank you letter.

[p-0^0-h the cat]

On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 18:34:49 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>I sent David Harris a check (Postal mail to New Zealand) and he sent me a
>very nice thank you letter.

Bill Gates never writes, and he won't take my calls

any more

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[Bear]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in

news:UvudnVjREsviJGXS...@giganews.com:

He has done it more than once David.

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Bear" <bearbo...@gmai.com>

>>>
>> Really only once.
>> I sent David Harris a check (Postal mail to New Zealand) and he sent
>> me a very nice thank you letter.
>>
> He has done it more than once David.
>

And it's been around for 22 years. You can't say that about a lot of
Windows software.

[Bear]

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in

news:EJidnaszsoqFfGXS...@giganews.com:

> From: "Bear" <bearbo...@gmai.com>
>
>>>>
>>> Really only once.
>>> I sent David Harris a check (Postal mail to New Zealand) and he sent
>>> me a very nice thank you letter.
>>>
>> He has done it more than once David.
>>
>
> And it's been around for 22 years. You can't say that about a lot of
> Windows software.
>
>

You are certainly right about that, and that /is/ something.

[Chris Caputo]

[John S]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:28:24 +0200, Yrrah wrote:

> "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>:

>
>> For the email part the *best* alternative is Pegasus Mail.
>>
>> http://www.pmail.com/
>

> Pegasus is an excellent e-mail client, which I've been using for about
> 15 years. It's an "acquired taste" though imho.
>
> Yrrah

I have been using Pegasus for about four years - maybe longer, and don't
want to change, because it has many great features.

However, it (version 4.41) has some annoying (for me) bugs, a couple of
them being:-

1) Some emails display OK on screen but won't print completely, - just a
few lines then nothing more. Have tried forwarding the message when this
happens - same result. If I really want to print in this situation, I have
to resort to copy, then paste into something else.

2) Increasingly I am receiving emails with html content that Pegasus won't
display, or only partially display.

3) I have more than one email account. It would be nice if, when replying
to an email, Pegasus would by default use the same "From" address as the
account which the original email was sent to. Instead, Pegasus uses the
default account as the "From" address in its reply. This can be changed at
the time, but I tend to forget till it's too late.

I found a suggestion somewhere in a forum (maybe here) some time ago which
provided a workaround, involving using filters to send incoming emails into
specific folders, and have been using that workaround OK, but would be
happier if the workaround wasn't necessary.

Just wondering if later versions have dealt with these kinds of irritants.
I feel nervous about downloading a new variety, then messing up my existing
installation if I try to install over the top.

Any comments from more experienced users?

Cheers,

John S

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

Where does he get he money?

Steve

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[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:23:45 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>From: "Bear" <bearbo...@gmai.com>
>
>>>>
>>> Really only once.
>>> I sent David Harris a check (Postal mail to New Zealand) and he sent
>>> me a very nice thank you letter.
>>>
>> He has done it more than once David.
>>
>
>And it's been around for 22 years. You can't say that about a lot of
>Windows software.

My 'Parlog' is as old as Windows because I was told to port it to
Windows by the boss in 1985! It was difficult to get into Windows in
those days.

[p-0^0-h the cat]

On Sun, 8 Jul 2012 17:09:22 +1200, John S <gorb...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Any comments from more experienced users?

Get yourself a copy of Outlook, and don't look back.

[Bear]

Stephen Wolstenholme <st...@npsl1.com> wrote in
news:afjiv7d59d0doc87u...@4ax.com:

I hope it's not freeware he expects income from...it wouldn't be
freeware eh! To hold users hostage by threatening to shut it down if he
doesn't get enough money to keep development going only warns people
that it isn't stable freeware. That's my take anyway...and why I never
bothered with it.

It does look like we have an open freeware category to fill with a
decent email client. Pegasus Email - finances, Thunderbird -
development, and DreamMail - Red Chinese (of course there is always
Stuxnet and Flame.)

[p-0^0-h the cat]

On 08 Jul 2012 11:01:41 GMT, Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:

>I hope it's not freeware he expects income from...it wouldn't be
>freeware eh!

Don't be so fucking stupid. There is nothing that precludes people from
making money from freeware. Neither the users or the producers. Grow up,
and stop peddling your disinfo. You're just a keeper of a list. Know
your place. WTF do you think you are telling us what freeware is, and
whether a man can earn a living from his efforts. Bleeding pinko.

[hummingbird]

Nice proggy but long in the tooth. You watch it end up going the way of
Eudora.

hb
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and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
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[Karen]

On 7/7/2012 2:10 PM, Bear wrote:
> Looks like the best alternative to Thunderbird is a Chinese software called
> DreamMail. :)
>
> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was designed
> to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The supported protocols are
> SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and Yahoo... With the additional remote
> mailbox access function, you might use it to logon your mail account
> remotely and check the mail content, preview even to delete it directly
> from the server; The combination use of mail filter, blacklist and white
> list, can sort out the junk mail effectively. Multi-accounts & Multi-users,
> Templates and signatures management, Antispam filter, scan every dangerous
> file, Messages filtering, and View in HTML or TEXT mode. Portable version.
> Size 8.9 MB. Windows XP/Vista/7.
>
> http://www.dreammail.eu/intl/en/home.html
>

I am trying Sylpheed, without any problems so far. It's from Japan.

http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/

[Man-wai Chang]

> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was designed
> to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The supported protocols are
> SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and Yahoo... With the additional remote
> mailbox access function, you might use it to logon your mail account

Support for Hotmail is interesting, but what about newsgroups?

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[Bear]

Karen <kp...@nospam.net> wrote in news:jtbsbu$2i6$1...@dont-email.me:

Dang...you use software from Nips?

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It's a joke Karen...to empahsise the prejudice here.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 14:19:48 +0200, FredW <fr...@blackholespam.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:54:52 +0800, Man-wai Chang
><toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was designed
>>> to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The supported protocols are
>>> SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and Yahoo... With the additional remote
>>> mailbox access function, you might use it to logon your mail account
>>
>>Support for Hotmail is interesting, but what about newsgroups?
>

>Why does an email program have to be able to read newsgroups?
>
>There are a lot of separate programs for reading newsgroups.
>
>I use Thunderbird ESR for email.
>I use Forte Agent for (text) newsgroups.

I find Forte Agent to the best application for both newsgroups and
email. Its email junk detection is unbeatable.

[MiniMouse]

FredW <fr...@blackholespam.net> wrote in
news:viuiv7pcvrljrk020...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:54:52 +0800, Man-wai Chang
> <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>>> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was
>>> designed to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The
>>> supported protocols are SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and
>>> Yahoo... With the additional remote mailbox access function, you
>>> might use it to logon your mail account
>>
>>Support for Hotmail is interesting, but what about newsgroups?
>

> Why does an email program have to be able to read newsgroups?
>
> There are a lot of separate programs for reading newsgroups.
>
> I use Thunderbird ESR for email.
> I use Forte Agent for (text) newsgroups.
>

That looks like a good combo.

[Bear]

FredW <fr...@blackholespam.net> wrote in
news:viuiv7pcvrljrk020...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:54:52 +0800, Man-wai Chang
> <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>>> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was
>>> designed to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The
>>> supported protocols are SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and
>>> Yahoo... With the additional remote mailbox access function, you
>>> might use it to logon your mail account
>>
>>Support for Hotmail is interesting, but what about newsgroups?
>

> Why does an email program have to be able to read newsgroups?
>
> There are a lot of separate programs for reading newsgroups.
>
> I use Thunderbird ESR for email.
> I use Forte Agent for (text) newsgroups.
>

So you qualify?

Who is it for?
Thunderbird Extended Support Release (ESR) is intended for groups who
deploy and maintain the desktop environment in large organizations such
as universities and other schools, county or city governments and
businesses.

Who is it not for?
It's not for individuals or smaller organizations that always want the
latest features, performance enhancements and technologies in their
email client. If you want those features, please go to the Thunderbird
download page here. (Which is going away - so how is ESR better even if
you qualify?)

[Bear]

Stephen Wolstenholme <st...@npsl1.com> wrote in

news:24viv7dq9lj74ah2q...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 14:19:48 +0200, FredW <fr...@blackholespam.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:54:52 +0800, Man-wai Chang
>><toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was
>>>> designed to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The
>>>> supported protocols are SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and
>>>> Yahoo... With the additional remote mailbox access function, you
>>>> might use it to logon your mail account
>>>
>>>Support for Hotmail is interesting, but what about newsgroups?
>>
>>Why does an email program have to be able to read newsgroups?
>>
>>There are a lot of separate programs for reading newsgroups.
>>
>>I use Thunderbird ESR for email.
>>I use Forte Agent for (text) newsgroups.
>
> I find Forte Agent to the best application for both newsgroups and
> email. Its email junk detection is unbeatable.
>
> Steve
>

...and the freeware version link is?

[Bear]

Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote in
news:XnsA08A50CEDBFAEbe...@130.225.254.104:

If you qualify for Thunderbird Extended Support Release, follow these
steps Step 1.

Before proceeding, we strongly encourage Thunderbird ESR users to sign
up for the Thunderbird Enterprise (tb-enterprise) mailing list. The
tb-enterprise list is a great place to discuss deploying Thunderbird
with other community members and is the only way to receive regular
communications regarding Thunderbird ESR updates and support.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/organizations/

[Bill Day]

On 07 Jul 2012 18:10:35 GMT, Bear <bearbo...@gmai.com> wrote:

>Looks like the best alternative to Thunderbird is a Chinese software called
>DreamMail. :)
>

>DreamMail is one of the best Chinese email client software. It was designed
>to handle multi-user and multi email accounts. The supported protocols are
>SMTP, eSMTP, POP 3, Gmail Hotmail and Yahoo... With the additional remote
>mailbox access function, you might use it to logon your mail account

>remotely and check the mail content, preview even to delete it directly
>from the server; The combination use of mail filter, blacklist and white
>list, can sort out the junk mail effectively. Multi-accounts & Multi-users,
>Templates and signatures management, Antispam filter, scan every dangerous
>file, Messages filtering, and View in HTML or TEXT mode. Portable version.
>Size 8.9 MB. Windows XP/Vista/7.
>
>http://www.dreammail.eu/intl/en/home.html

I tried Pegasus about 8-10 years ago. It was fine, but more than I
needed.

I have used Eudora for most of my 16 years online. It works fine and
has many features. I'm not sure why it lately is ignored. I barely
noticed the change to open source using the basic Thunderbird code.

If choosing is difficult, just check this list..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients
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[Bear Bottoms]

To make it even more difficult?

[M.L.]

>If choosing is difficult, just check this list..
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients

That list is outdated enough to question its usefulness.

[Bear]

Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid> wrote in
news:leijv7lfi5ldm01jr...@net.com:

> WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid>:
>
>> Still haven't found anything to beat Eudora.
>
> Please tell us about it in your own words.
>
> Eudora used to be a commercial program (Qualcomm). It is a Mozilla
> project now. No update since July 2010.
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases
>
>
> Yrrah
>

Why should he answer your questions laddie? You don't answer any one else's
by your own words laddie. Now be a good boy and go outside and play laddie.

[Chris Caputo]

Bear, when did you stop your lies to ACF?

[al]

On 7/8/2012 4:16 PM, Chris Caputo wrote:
> Bear, when did you stop your lies to ACF?
>

He'll probably stop when you stop being such an annoying asshole.

[Chris Caputo]

[Craig]

On 07/09/2012 03:31 AM, FredW wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:07:26 +0200, FredW <fr...@blackholespam.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 20:09:37 -0400, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Eudora 7.1.0.9 is a fantastic e-mail program and free.
>>
>>
>> A link would be nice.
>
> Version from 10/11/2006 ?
> http://www.eudora.com/download/
>
> Isn't that a little bit old?
> (Runs on Microsoft Windows XP/2000)

I think the last version can be found here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases.

hth,
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[telsar]

On 7/8/2012 1:04 PM, Yrrah wrote:
> WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid>:
>
>> Still haven't found anything to beat Eudora.
>
> Please tell us about it in your own words.
>
> Eudora used to be a commercial program (Qualcomm). It is a Mozilla
> project now. No update since July 2010.
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases
>
>
> Yrrah
>

Thanks for that. I used to use it (our company used it and their lame
pop3 server) years ago. So it sent to moz land. cool.... free again...


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[iNcReDuLoUs]

FredW <fr...@blackholespam.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:07:26 +0200, FredW <fr...@blackholespam.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 20:09:37 -0400, WaIIy <WaIIy@(nft).invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>Eudora 7.1.0.9 is a fantastic e-mail program and free.
>>
>>A link would be nice.
>
> Version from 10/11/2006 ?
> http://www.eudora.com/download/
>
> Isn't that a little bit old?
> (Runs on Microsoft Windows XP/2000)

It is old. And it is dead And it isn't freeware.

But it does run fine on Windows 7.

[Mark Warner]

FredW wrote:
>
> So, for the time being I will stay with Thunderbird ESR:
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/organizations/all-esr.html
>
> I assume Mozilla will now change/remove "intended for groups"
> and "large organizations" in the description.
> It will now become the Thunderbird "for personal use".
>
> Personally I prefer the portable version:
> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird-portable-esr
> or direct download:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Thunderbird%2C%20P.E./

Exactly. Tarball installs in Linux, portable installs in Windows. All
the teeth gnashing and garment rending aside, we should be good for a
long, long time.

--
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...lose .inhibitions when replying

[John S]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 17:05:42 +0200, Yrrah wrote:

> X-posted: alt.comp.freeware,comp.mail.pegasus-mail.ms-windows
>
> John S <gorb...@invalid.invalid>:
>
>>> Pegasus is an excellent e-mail client, which I've been using for about
>>> 15 years. It's an "acquired taste" though imho.
>
>> I have been using Pegasus for about four years - maybe longer, and don't
>> want to change, because it has many great features.
>
>> However, it (version 4.41) has some annoying (for me) bugs, a couple of
>> them being:-
>
> Have you tried v. 4.63?
>
> http://www.pmail.com/downloads_s3_t.htm

No, guess I'm being lazy/cautious.

Was hoping to hear from someone who has tried the latest version and knows
its habits.

snip ...
>
>> Any comments from more experienced users?
>
> I've taken the liberty to crosspost this to
> comp.mail.pegasus-mail.ms-windows. You may want to have a look there
> also.
>
> Yrrah.

Thanks for that.

I will monitor that group and hope for some comment.

Cheers,

John S

[David H. Lipman]

From: "John S" <gorb...@invalid.invalid>

I use v4.63.

There is nothing to be cautious about it.


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