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Flasherly
Jul 9, 2017, 11:45:42 AM7/9/17
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"Kaspersky Lab software is used by, if not hundreds of thousands,
millions of Americans," Florida Republican Marco Rubio told the spy
chiefs. "To each of our witnesses I would just ask, would any of you
be comfortable with a Kaspersky Lab software on your computers?"
"A resounding no from me," replied Director of National Intelligence
Dan Coats.
"No," said National Security Agency Director Admiral Mike Rogers.
"No, Senator," was CIA Director Mike Pompeo's reply.
"No, sir," answered Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe.
"No, Senator," chimed in Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lt. Gen.
Vincent Stewart.
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Director Robert Cardillo
rounded out the replies: "No, sir."
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/07/05/535651597/congress-casts-a-suspicious-eye-on-russias-kaspersky-lab
millions of Americans," Florida Republican Marco Rubio told the spy
chiefs. "To each of our witnesses I would just ask, would any of you
be comfortable with a Kaspersky Lab software on your computers?"
"A resounding no from me," replied Director of National Intelligence
Dan Coats.
"No," said National Security Agency Director Admiral Mike Rogers.
"No, Senator," was CIA Director Mike Pompeo's reply.
"No, sir," answered Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe.
"No, Senator," chimed in Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lt. Gen.
Vincent Stewart.
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Director Robert Cardillo
rounded out the replies: "No, sir."
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/07/05/535651597/congress-casts-a-suspicious-eye-on-russias-kaspersky-lab
hjmler
Jul 9, 2017, 12:54:20 PM7/9/17
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man-in-the-middle eavesdroppers and it x matter how much we're skilled n
how diligent we are, that ain't gonna change... all we learn from this
little bromance 'tween Rubio n these IC dogs is that Rubio just shorted
K's stock and bought a slug of options on all the not-K outfits
Flasherly
Jul 9, 2017, 3:02:11 PM7/9/17
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:52:02 +0200, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
wrote:
>Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>:
>
>> (...)
>
>Freeware?
>
>Yrrah
Depends, these days, as the end of that article incidentally mentions,
on how much slack on a rope it takes to stress the burden of being
free. The subjective assay you're, of course, permitted. . .
https://free.kaspersky.com/
Provided free is nothing more than being of general concessions, among
ideological stances, to defray otherwise what people actually want: to
exchange freedom, unhesitatingly, for control systems which promise
security.
Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
I suspect I may have become somewhat antisocial about security, having
for sometime not used passwords, prior to when they were first came to
be de facto an accepted standard, broadly when introduced to computer
parley by Microsoft Corporation. A study I also recall correlates how
people conceive of a free association with computers. As people grow
more competent with a formalism of programming environs, in obtaining
the rudimentary skill sets of computer literacy, a typical reaction
invariably occurs. They then want an immediate sense of
personalization extended to the control of allowable manipulations
permitted programs. Whether, rather how, that perception is tangible
to aspects of rudimentary computer linguistics, or extemporaneously a
postulate to a greater sense of security, at least to me, seemed too
interminable a proposition for a so-called virus suite to be other
than a tedious affair.
In other words, I suppose I'm an advocate of using common sense in
dealings with a language;- all the more useful, no doubt, when
fabricating propositions about how these things work, when lacking an
archetypical structure for actually being able to program.
wrote:
>Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>:
>
>> (...)
>
>Freeware?
>
>Yrrah
Depends, these days, as the end of that article incidentally mentions,
on how much slack on a rope it takes to stress the burden of being
free. The subjective assay you're, of course, permitted. . .
https://free.kaspersky.com/
Provided free is nothing more than being of general concessions, among
ideological stances, to defray otherwise what people actually want: to
exchange freedom, unhesitatingly, for control systems which promise
security.
Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
I suspect I may have become somewhat antisocial about security, having
for sometime not used passwords, prior to when they were first came to
be de facto an accepted standard, broadly when introduced to computer
parley by Microsoft Corporation. A study I also recall correlates how
people conceive of a free association with computers. As people grow
more competent with a formalism of programming environs, in obtaining
the rudimentary skill sets of computer literacy, a typical reaction
invariably occurs. They then want an immediate sense of
personalization extended to the control of allowable manipulations
permitted programs. Whether, rather how, that perception is tangible
to aspects of rudimentary computer linguistics, or extemporaneously a
postulate to a greater sense of security, at least to me, seemed too
interminable a proposition for a so-called virus suite to be other
than a tedious affair.
In other words, I suppose I'm an advocate of using common sense in
dealings with a language;- all the more useful, no doubt, when
fabricating propositions about how these things work, when lacking an
archetypical structure for actually being able to program.
David B.
Jul 9, 2017, 3:30:53 PM7/9/17
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On 09-Jul-17 8:02 PM, Flasherly wrote:
> Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
> http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
> and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
Has THAT "Clam" any connection/association with THIS product?
> Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
> http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
> and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
https://www.clamxav.com/
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Shadow
Jul 9, 2017, 5:30:18 PM7/9/17
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:52:02 +0200, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
wrote:
>Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>:
>
>> (...)
>
>Freeware?
Yes, Kaspersky's Rescue Disk is freeware. With the advantage
wrote:
>Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>:
>
>> (...)
>
>Freeware?
it runs offline (no nasty cloud uploading).
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Shadow
Jul 9, 2017, 5:39:17 PM7/9/17
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On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 20:30:48 +0100, "David B."
<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>On 09-Jul-17 8:02 PM, Flasherly wrote:
>> Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
>> http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
>> and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
>
>Has THAT "Clam" any connection/association with THIS product?
>
>hxxps://www.clam_up_you_bugger
<Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>On 09-Jul-17 8:02 PM, Flasherly wrote:
>> Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
>> http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
>> and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
>
>Has THAT "Clam" any connection/association with THIS product?
>
No, and the product you mentioned is off topic here. ClamWin
is freeware.
But I thought you had just *BOUGHT* a fantastic anti-malware
program. What happened, did the trial period end ? Or did you expect
that *STALKING* for you was included in "support" ?
CRNG
Jul 9, 2017, 5:40:26 PM7/9/17
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:52:02 +0200, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
wrote in <k6k4mcdblr4u1trv9...@net.com>
https://usa.kaspersky.com/downloads
Page down to the bottom of the page.
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David B.
Jul 9, 2017, 5:47:18 PM7/9/17
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On 09-Jul-17 10:38 PM, Shadow wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 20:30:48 +0100, "David B."
> <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 09-Jul-17 8:02 PM, Flasherly wrote:
>>> Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
>>> http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
>>> and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
>>
>> Has THAT "Clam" any connection/association with THIS product?
>>
>> https://www.clamxav.com/
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 20:30:48 +0100, "David B."
> <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 09-Jul-17 8:02 PM, Flasherly wrote:
>>> Not that I've ever used, in my partiality, other than
>>> http://www.clamwin.com/content/view/71/1/
>>> and only seldom, at that, for the most part.
>>
>> Has THAT "Clam" any connection/association with THIS product?
>>
>
> No, and the product you mentioned is off topic here. ClamWin
> is freeware.
I'd like someone else to confirm that there is no connection.
> No, and the product you mentioned is off topic here. ClamWin
> is freeware.
> But I thought you had just *BOUGHT* a fantastic anti-malware program.
It is installed on my iMac. :-)
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John Corliss
Jul 9, 2017, 8:30:34 PM7/9/17
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It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
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Flasherly
Jul 9, 2017, 11:59:17 PM7/9/17
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On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:30:18 -0700, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
Not quite sure what I used back then. Whatever it was, it grew
distasteful over time, something of a nag to leave behind and never
look behind to its tracks. Possibly a British published AV program
and placed for Windows 95. I also built many custom computers. A
sore point, that sort of thing, when people interrupted to became
insistent they needed the assurance of "protection."
One I recall, a "tower of power" I sold to a Brazilian. I'd especially
scrimped on the build, putting parts just so to make it near the
unbelievable deal for the money. First thing he did was, not to walk,
but run over to Best Buy and blow a hundred bucks on Symantec
Antivirus Suite. Second thing was to call me up for a repair.
Symantec had embedded itself into the MBR, requiring the hard drive be
taken down and a rebuild of the OS from the ground up.
Dunno if it even registered when I suggested he get his money back, if
possible;- there's certainly better ways to spend it, I'd have
thought.
Things like that just seemed gradually to get worse, though, and
eventually I stopped altogether doing people the favor of dazzling
them with build prices, costing magnitudes more in a retail brandname
counterpart. They simply hadn't a reference, little comprehension,
worse, even a care to bother with what a computer is appreciably
capable. Later, looking back more carefully, it had always been
there;- it was me: the to-my-face "computer genius" with a deal-a-day
they couldn't ignore, quick on his turn-around builds to break even
for getting my fix with all the latest and greatest in technological
hardware advancements.
Hell, back then, if I needed anything else, I'd come to Google for a
commitment it once made, one which wasn't yet a blatant intrusion, to
honor and keep a spirit of the USENET alive. When actual search
returns across ACF were pointed, categorical, and well-covered ground
for researching all the best possible freeware alternatives.
wrote:
>It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
distasteful over time, something of a nag to leave behind and never
look behind to its tracks. Possibly a British published AV program
and placed for Windows 95. I also built many custom computers. A
sore point, that sort of thing, when people interrupted to became
insistent they needed the assurance of "protection."
One I recall, a "tower of power" I sold to a Brazilian. I'd especially
scrimped on the build, putting parts just so to make it near the
unbelievable deal for the money. First thing he did was, not to walk,
but run over to Best Buy and blow a hundred bucks on Symantec
Antivirus Suite. Second thing was to call me up for a repair.
Symantec had embedded itself into the MBR, requiring the hard drive be
taken down and a rebuild of the OS from the ground up.
Dunno if it even registered when I suggested he get his money back, if
possible;- there's certainly better ways to spend it, I'd have
thought.
Things like that just seemed gradually to get worse, though, and
eventually I stopped altogether doing people the favor of dazzling
them with build prices, costing magnitudes more in a retail brandname
counterpart. They simply hadn't a reference, little comprehension,
worse, even a care to bother with what a computer is appreciably
capable. Later, looking back more carefully, it had always been
there;- it was me: the to-my-face "computer genius" with a deal-a-day
they couldn't ignore, quick on his turn-around builds to break even
for getting my fix with all the latest and greatest in technological
hardware advancements.
Hell, back then, if I needed anything else, I'd come to Google for a
commitment it once made, one which wasn't yet a blatant intrusion, to
honor and keep a spirit of the USENET alive. When actual search
returns across ACF were pointed, categorical, and well-covered ground
for researching all the best possible freeware alternatives.
John Corliss
Jul 10, 2017, 2:16:07 AM7/10/17
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Poutnik
Jul 10, 2017, 2:36:57 AM7/10/17
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Dne 10/07/2017 v 08:15 John Corliss napsal(a):
which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
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as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.
> Flasherly wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:30:18 -0700, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>
>> On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:30:18 -0700, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>
> I also introduced AVG and AVIRA to this group.
Sounds like a self-applause,
which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
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as they say about him more,
than he says about the subject.
John Corliss
Jul 10, 2017, 2:43:04 AM7/10/17
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Poutnik wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> Flasherly wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> Flasherly wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>
>> I also introduced AVG and AVIRA to this group.
>
> Sounds like a self-applause,
> which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
Kiss my ass. It's all true.
>>>>
>>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>
>> I also introduced AVG and AVIRA to this group.
>
> Sounds like a self-applause,
> which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
Poutnik
Jul 10, 2017, 3:00:59 AM7/10/17
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Dne 10/07/2017 v 08:42 John Corliss napsal(a):
> Poutnik wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>> Flasherly wrote:
>>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>>
>>> I also introduced AVG and AVIRA to this group.
>>
>> Sounds like a self-applause,
>> which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
>
> Kiss my ass. It's all true.
>
Yes, it is true. It smells.
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>> Flasherly wrote:
>>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>>
>>> I also introduced AVG and AVIRA to this group.
>>
>> Sounds like a self-applause,
>> which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
>
> Kiss my ass. It's all true.
>
John Corliss
Jul 10, 2017, 3:19:19 AM7/10/17
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Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 10/07/2017 v 08:42 John Corliss napsal(a):
>> Poutnik wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>> Flasherly wrote:
>>>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>>>
>>>> I also introduced AVG and AVIRA to this group.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a self-applause,
>>> which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
>>
>> Kiss my ass. It's all true.
>>
> Yes, it is true. It smells.
>
Fuck off, troll.
> Dne 10/07/2017 v 08:42 John Corliss napsal(a):
>> Poutnik wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>> Flasherly wrote:
>>>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was at one point, and I was the one who introduced it to this group.
>>>>
>>>> I also introduced AVG and AVIRA to this group.
>>>
>>> Sounds like a self-applause,
>>> which is said to be smelling by a proverb.
>>
>> Kiss my ass. It's all true.
>>
> Yes, it is true. It smells.
>
JJ
Jul 10, 2017, 11:51:12 AM7/10/17
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Poutnik
Jul 10, 2017, 12:25:16 PM7/10/17
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Dne 10.7.2017 v 17:52 JJ napsal(a):
I would wonder, if their opinion is based
on analysis of the Kaspersky AV code, resp. the company relations,
or rather on widespread Russion-phobia......
Similar question could be raised,
if you would be confortable to have on your computers
an Antivirus released by NSA... ;-)
on analysis of the Kaspersky AV code, resp. the company relations,
or rather on widespread Russion-phobia......
Similar question could be raised,
if you would be confortable to have on your computers
an Antivirus released by NSA... ;-)
Flasherly
Jul 10, 2017, 2:14:49 PM7/10/17
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:25:06 +0200, Poutnik <poutni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>Similar question could be raised,
>if you would be confortable to have on your computers
>an Antivirus released by NSA... ;-)
Apparently, yes. . .they in some greater likelihood would be
comfortable with that.
-
When it comes to the public's trust, a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist
poll found that more Americans have a "great deal" of trust in
institutions like the CIA and the FBI than in the Trump administration
or other institutions, like Congress and the press.
The same poll found that almost half of all Americans believe Russian
hacking is a major threat to future U.S. elections.
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll/
wrote:
>
>Similar question could be raised,
>if you would be confortable to have on your computers
>an Antivirus released by NSA... ;-)
comfortable with that.
-
When it comes to the public's trust, a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist
poll found that more Americans have a "great deal" of trust in
institutions like the CIA and the FBI than in the Trump administration
or other institutions, like Congress and the press.
The same poll found that almost half of all Americans believe Russian
hacking is a major threat to future U.S. elections.
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll/
Poutnik
Jul 10, 2017, 3:06:47 PM7/10/17
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Dne 10/07/2017 v 20:14 Flasherly napsal(a):
So the latter...
On the contrary to Kaspersky,
who is supposed to hack, because they are Russsions,
NSA does hack, is spite of being US.
On the contrary to Kaspersky,
who is supposed to hack, because they are Russsions,
NSA does hack, is spite of being US.
Flasherly
Jul 10, 2017, 6:50:01 PM7/10/17
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 21:06:40 +0200, Poutnik <poutni...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>So the latter...
>
>On the contrary to Kaspersky,
>who is supposed to hack, because they are Russsions,
>NSA does hack, is spite of being US.
Kaspersky comes out of Russian Intelligence, as well with military
credentials and background. Just possibly, there's the slimmest
chance, that with circumstances lacking clarity, involvements of
unfounded fears and conjecture, there never will be what ever was
intended to make any sense.
wrote:
>So the latter...
>
>On the contrary to Kaspersky,
>who is supposed to hack, because they are Russsions,
>NSA does hack, is spite of being US.
credentials and background. Just possibly, there's the slimmest
chance, that with circumstances lacking clarity, involvements of
unfounded fears and conjecture, there never will be what ever was
intended to make any sense.
Shadow
Jul 10, 2017, 7:15:15 PM7/10/17
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I believe Flasherly was being sarcastic or ironic. Haven't had
the time to figure it out yet.
Mark Warner
Jul 10, 2017, 7:16:49 PM7/10/17
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believes KAV is some kind of Trojan Horse software for the Russian
government?
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Jul 10, 2017, 8:03:57 PM7/10/17
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:16:44 -0400, Mark Warner
<mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Other than these idiots' opinions, is there any legitimate source who
>believes KAV is some kind of Trojan Horse software for the Russian
>government?
Why would the Russians bother. Don't they already control the head of
<mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Other than these idiots' opinions, is there any legitimate source who
>believes KAV is some kind of Trojan Horse software for the Russian
>government?
the snake.
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Flasherly
Jul 11, 2017, 1:31:27 AM7/11/17
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:14:42 -0300, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:
>Even more stupid to believe their answers.
> I believe Flasherly was being sarcastic or ironic. Haven't had
>the time to figure it out yet.
If I'm not glib enough for you then I apologize. Or, it may just be
>Even more stupid to believe their answers.
> I believe Flasherly was being sarcastic or ironic. Haven't had
>the time to figure it out yet.
your tolerance levels are more highly attuned, than I, for attending
an irreverent trust at balance when inequity or corruption appear
impending.
Politicians withstanding where security specialists take over, for a
people as a whole during present exigencies of Trump's administration.
The man effectively has set the country on edge with his schismatic
theatrics, as well a traditional regard given by foreign interests.
Poutnik
Jul 11, 2017, 2:00:56 AM7/11/17
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Dne 11/07/2017 v 02:03 p-0''0-h the cat (coder) napsal(a):
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:16:44 -0400, Mark Warner
> <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Other than these idiots' opinions, is there any legitimate source who
>> believes KAV is some kind of Trojan Horse software for the Russian
>> government?
>
> Why would the Russians bother. Don't they already control the head of
> the snake.
>
Do you mean Trump, his family and administration ? :-)
> <mhwarner.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Other than these idiots' opinions, is there any legitimate source who
>> believes KAV is some kind of Trojan Horse software for the Russian
>> government?
>
> Why would the Russians bother. Don't they already control the head of
> the snake.
>
occam
Jul 11, 2017, 3:19:43 AM7/11/17
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Kaspersky provides several 'on demand' free scanners:
- Kaspersky system checker (tried)
- Kaspersky virus removal tool (tried)
- Kaspersky security scan (not tried)
- Kaspersky Safe Kids (not tried)
https://free.kaspersky.com/
- Kaspersky system checker (tried)
- Kaspersky virus removal tool (tried)
- Kaspersky security scan (not tried)
- Kaspersky Safe Kids (not tried)
https://free.kaspersky.com/
Shadow
Jul 11, 2017, 9:37:08 AM7/11/17
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:31:20 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:
Hum, I had to look "glib" up, and "schismatic" (I guessed this
one right, but wasn't 100% sure).
I'll go with ironic.
Incredible that a nation will trust a politician's declared
opinion (the real one obviously differs, most of them probably use
Kaspersky on their personal machines) over a scientific or logical
one. More ominous is that the press is taking advantage of how lost
and uninformed the average citizen has become.
Watergate ? It'll never happen again. No traction.
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one right, but wasn't 100% sure).
I'll go with ironic.
Incredible that a nation will trust a politician's declared
opinion (the real one obviously differs, most of them probably use
Kaspersky on their personal machines) over a scientific or logical
one. More ominous is that the press is taking advantage of how lost
and uninformed the average citizen has become.
Watergate ? It'll never happen again. No traction.
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