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John Corliss

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Dec 12, 2018, 6:17:43 AM12/12/18
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Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
mean native Americans:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=

or:

http://tinyurl.com/y92dmptn

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:17:21 -0800, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
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Maybe because India has (or used to have until the 80's)
excellent free public education for everyone ?
And even today, has the third largest number of University
students in the World ? And entrance is by exam, not $$$$ or sports
scholarships ?
So even poor geniuses had a chance ?
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:52:37 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:17:21 -0800, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
>>mean native Americans:
>>
>>https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=
>>
>
> Maybe because India has (or used to have until the 80's)
>excellent free public education for everyone ?
> And even today, has the third largest number of University
>students in the World ? And entrance is by exam, not $$$$ or sports
>scholarships ?
> So even poor geniuses had a chance ?

Bloody socialist.

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:17:21 -0800, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
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Fifty years ago when I was in Engineering school, there were a lot of
Indians and Pakistani's. I surmised it was because they come from
countries where English was the official or simi-official language.
That made student-visas to U.S. colleges easy to get; and most of them
studied engineering, and sciences because it wasn't language oriented.
When they graduated, it was back to India/Paki unless they could get
H1B visa's in technology companies, which let to permanent
citizenship. That's what they wanted. They didn't want to go back and
I didn't blame them.

As part of my job working for a large electric power utility, I had to
inspect the facilities of large contractors that were bidding for
major projects. The engineering sections of major contractors were
about 75% Indian/Packi because they were willing to work cheap so they
could get permanent employment and the coveted H1B visas which let to
permanent residency and citizenship.
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Dec 12, 2018, 10:16:30 AM12/12/18
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On 12/12/2018 14:51, Yrrah wrote:
> John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>:
>
>> Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
>> mean native Americans:
>
> Big pond, lot of fish? There are many Indians in India (approx. 1.3
> billion, more than 50% younger than 25; source: Wikipedia) plus
> millions outside that country.
> I am under the impression that a lot of (young) Indians want to study
> science or engineering, while too many (lazy? stupid?) US students
> prefer overrated, relatively useless and easy academic disciplines
> such as law. So who would you want to be the boss of a technology
> company? A smart-talking know-nothing US lawyer or a capable Indian
> scientist or engineer who actually knows and understands the company's
> products and the underlying technologies and who can communicate with
> its R&D people?
> I may be wrong of course and perhaps it's simply because of the color
> of their skin, nice smile or Indian-English accent. ;-)
>
> But why would it be creepy? Or is it all part of a sinister
> conspiracy? ;-)
>
>
> Yrrah

I spent much of yesterday afternoon watching/listening to a US Senate
Committee grilling the CEO of Google.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/11/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-testifies-before-congress-on-bias-privacy.html

Interesting! :-)

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Shadow

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Dec 12, 2018, 10:27:01 AM12/12/18
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 13:42:10 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
<super...@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:52:37 -0200, Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:17:21 -0800, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
>>>mean native Americans:
>>>
>>>https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=
>>>
>>
>> Maybe because India has (or used to have until the 80's)
>>excellent free public education for everyone ?
>> And even today, has the third largest number of University
>>students in the World ? And entrance is by exam, not $$$$ or sports
>>scholarships ?
>> So even poor geniuses had a chance ?
>
>Bloody socialist.

TY
Bloody cat !!
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MikeS

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Dec 12, 2018, 12:48:08 PM12/12/18
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On 12/12/2018 11:17, John Corliss wrote:
> Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
> mean native Americans:
>
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=
>
> or:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y92dmptn
>
The title of this thread and his question tells us far more about John
Corliss than about India or technology companies.

Flasherly

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Dec 12, 2018, 1:31:44 PM12/12/18
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:29:10 -0600, CRNG <noe...@atthisdomain.gov>
wrote:

They didn't want to go back and I didn't blame them.

-

Possibly because they'd substituted their life, for the ones, some
that would and did return, for a life of superficiality and rigid
Western dominance of protectionism, the class isolation and status quo
for those who possess if not most, then all the material possessions.

Yeah, I've watched a couple of Indian Bollywood films. As much I
generally try not to, like the Jews, I just can't help it when a good
one slips through.

Jenny Telia

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Dec 12, 2018, 2:02:13 PM12/12/18
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On 12/12/2018 19:04, Yrrah wrote:
> MikeS <Mi...@fred.com>:
>
>> The title of this thread and his question tells us far more about John
>> Corliss than about India or technology companies.
>
> I think we'll have to have a serious chat with John, perhaps over
> samosas, lamb biryani an a few beers.;-)
>

I'm not clear if Corliss is a Brit or a Yank.

If he's a Yank, the answer to his question "Why are so many CEOs of
leading technology companies Indian?" is clear - they [Indians] are
smarter than Yanks and better at engineering and business.

If he is a Brit, you better have that briyani and beer before Brexit.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Dec 12, 2018, 2:06:26 PM12/12/18
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I think the Bouffant may have turned him.

John Corliss

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Dec 13, 2018, 5:29:42 AM12/13/18
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Then there's this cock-sucker (excuse my French):

https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai

John Corliss

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Dec 13, 2018, 5:30:42 AM12/13/18
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Oh yeah, I suppose I'm a fucking racist. Get a grip.

Shadow

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Dec 13, 2018, 9:19:19 AM12/13/18
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 14:34:42 +0100, Yrrah <Yrra...@acf.invalid>
wrote:

>John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>:
>
>> Then there's this cock-sucker (excuse my French):
>>
>> https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
>
>Whose c*ck? The Trumpster's?

You might be right ...
;)
[]'s
>"Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in
>January 2017 for a five-year term."
>Not really an Indian:
>"Ajit Pai was born on January 10, 1973, in Buffalo, New York, and grew
>up in Parsons, Kansas."
>Neither a scientist nor an engineer:
>"Pai graduated from Harvard in 1994 with a B.A. (...) in social
>studies. He then went to the University of Chicago Law School."
>A corrupt fascist:
>"The National Rifle Association (NRA) awarded Pai with the Charlton
>Heston Courage Under Fire Award for repealing net neutrality rules
>despite facing heavy public criticism. As part of the award, a
>handmade Kentucky long gun was gifted to Pai. This gift caused former
>White House ethics attorney Walter Shaub to question if Pai, a federal
>employee, had violated ethics rules by accepting gifts from lobbyists
>such as the NRA."
>(Quotes from the Wikipedia article about the c*ck-sucker)
>
>Not an Indian from India, but a Trumpistani from the USA.
>
>
>Yrrah

Shadow

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Dec 13, 2018, 9:54:13 AM12/13/18
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 02:30:22 -0800, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Get a grip.

Getting old is even creepier:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/file/12282_baby%20it%27s%20cold%20outside%20majorgeeks.jpg
;)
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Wildman

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Dec 13, 2018, 11:17:59 AM12/13/18
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 02:30:22 -0800, John Corliss wrote:

> MikeS wrote:
>> On 12/12/2018 11:17, John Corliss wrote:
>>> Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
>>> mean native Americans:
>>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=
>>>
>>> or:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/y92dmptn
>>>
>> The title of this thread and his question tells us far more about John
>> Corliss than about India or technology companies.
>>
> Oh yeah, I suppose I'm a fucking racist. Get a grip.

Then what was the point of your post?

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Dec 13, 2018, 11:46:37 AM12/13/18
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 08:44:53 -0700, H-Man <Sp...@bites.fs> wrote:

In other words, they are difficult to indoctrinate into western
liberalism.

IOW, they kick our asses when it comes to climbing the corporate
ladder ... plain and simple.

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Not that liberalism need involve the same qualifications of hard
sciences. Nor that the level of commitment in mastering difficult
disciplines need be, in the least, liberal in any sense. Perhaps one
in eight will engage the endeavor, consequent to one in four whom will
subsequently then be placed within a disciplined setting of some
greater scientific emphasis.

And they will, most of all likely, be ensured both a position from
within a stases of highest demands, and potential, wealth most
directly may be skewed to, from across averages of an expectancy of
social demographics.

http://shortsleeveandtieclub.com/what-percentage-of-engineering-graduates-actually-work-in-their-respective-fields/

I used to work near an engineer placed in a non-engineering capacity.
He had a unique sense of perspective to distance assessments of a
liberal constitution and its placement within a pragmatic
implementation of his own and a civic capacity.

Corliss the cat (coder)

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Dec 13, 2018, 11:46:56 AM12/13/18
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Fucking creepy Indians.

NOTHING RACIST ABOUT THAT!!!

Wildman

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Dec 13, 2018, 12:06:13 PM12/13/18
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Riiiight.

Flasherly

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Dec 13, 2018, 1:50:03 PM12/13/18
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 09:54:25 -0700, KenW <ke...@nono.net> wrote:

>Accent is their downfall

Proto-Indo-European is a pitch-accentuation (as opposed to Standard
tonal Chinese),
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/IndoEuropeanTree.svg
whose preservation in Vedic Sanskrit and Ancient Greek is most
substantiative of its venerable PIE inflections.

I personally find the language somewhat mellifluous;- May it further
please you to note that David, the android entrusted with a
preliminary convention of Proto-Indo-European in Ridley Scott's fifth
installment, Prometheus, was instructed by Ridley, who hired an
intermediary Linguist, Dr Anil Biltoo, to specifically engineer the
alien encounter.

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John Corliss

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Dec 14, 2018, 4:51:02 AM12/14/18
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Wildman wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> MikeS wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
>>>> mean native Americans:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=
>>>>
>>>> or:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y92dmptn
>>>>
>>> The title of this thread and his question tells us far more about John
>>> Corliss than about India or technology companies.

A trollish remark if I ever heard one. Designed to generate an emotional
response and totally unsupported by documentation or explanation.

>> Oh yeah, I suppose I'm a fucking racist. Get a grip.
>
> Then what was the point of your post?

That people from the COUNTRY of India are taking over the tech industry
in the United States.

Explain to me exactly what RACE it is that I'm supposedly denigrating.
India is a country composed of people from MANY ethnicities:

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/biggest-ethnic-groups-in-india.html

This reminds me of Jewish people labeling those who are anti-Hebrew as
being "racist". Last I heard, Hebrews are members of a religion, not a race.

It's up to you who are calling me a "racist" to explain just exactly WHY
you're doing so.

John Corliss

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Dec 14, 2018, 5:03:39 AM12/14/18
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Yrrah wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>> Then there's this (expletive deleted) (excuse my French):
>>
>> https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership/ajit-pai
>
> Whose c*ck? The Trumpster's?
> "Pai was designated chairman of the FCC by President Donald Trump in
> January 2017 for a five-year term."

Yes, but that has nothing to do with his ethnicity or (more to the
point) national origin. Regardless:

"Ajit Varadaraj Pai (/əˈdʒiːt ˈpaɪ/;[1] born January 10, 1973) is a
telecommunications director who serves as the Chairman of the United
States Federal Communications Commission (FCC). *He is the first Indian
American to hold the office*. He has served in various positions at the
FCC since being appointed to the commission by *President Barack Obama*
in May 2012, at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed
unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012, and was sworn in
on May 14, 2012, for a five-year term."

> Not really an Indian:
> "Ajit Pai was born on January 10, 1973, in Buffalo, New York, and grew
> up in Parsons, Kansas."

Full quote is:

"Ajit Pai was born on January 10, 1973, in Buffalo, New York, and grew
up in Parsons, Kansas. His parents are Konkani immigrants from India:
Varadaraj Pai, a urologist, and Radha Pai, an anesthesiologist. Both of
his parents moved to the US in 1971 and were physicians at the county
hospital."

> Neither a scientist nor an engineer:
> "Pai graduated from Harvard in 1994 with a B.A. (...) in social
> studies. He then went to the University of Chicago Law School."
> A corrupt fascist:
> "The National Rifle Association (NRA) awarded Pai with the Charlton
> Heston Courage Under Fire Award for repealing net neutrality rules
> despite facing heavy public criticism. As part of the award, a
> handmade Kentucky long gun was gifted to Pai. This gift caused former
> White House ethics attorney Walter Shaub to question if Pai, a federal
> employee, had violated ethics rules by accepting gifts from lobbyists
> such as the NRA."
> (Quotes from the Wikipedia article about the c*ck-sucker)
>
> Not an Indian from India, but a Trumpistani from the USA.

If you say so.

John Corliss

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H-Man wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:17:21 -0800, John Corliss wrote:
>
>> Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
>> mean native Americans:
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=
>>
>> or:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/y92dmptn
>
> Many are born in the US. As a culture they are very disciplined when it
> comes to their education.
>
> If they are eastern born, then there are other cultural factors at play.
> Many in that culture live by a morality and ethical standard to which we
> are unaccustomed. They can be ruthless when they compete for higher
> positions. That is not to say they are necessarily dishonest or corrupt,
> but growing up in a very competitive environment, leads to very competitive
> people. They do tend to be less concerned with how they are perceived by
> their piers, as long as they are on top. Again, not that this is
> necessarily bad, it does give them a competitive edge, and they haven't
> necessarily done anything wrong.
>
> Our education system(s) provide the very environment a snowflake needs in
> order to not melt. We are not graduating highly educated people who are
> ready for a nasty and competitive business environment, rather we are
> graduating protesters and socialists. There is nothing wrong with being
> either left off center or right of center, mostly our kids are being
> indoctrinated into far left liberalism. This is not at all good for
> becoming a CEO. The brown people generally have religion as a part of their
> culture, whether born here or otherwise, and center their politics around
> that. In other words, they are difficult to indoctrinate into western
> liberalism.
>
> IOW, they kick our asses when it comes to climbing the corporate ladder ...
> plain and simple.

Nice explanation, H-Man. And thanks for not giving a knee-jerk
"RACIST!!!" reaction like so many others responding to this thread did.

I guess when a person is culturally influenced either by directly being
brought up in an overpopulated area or being raised by parents who were,
then they have a drive to compete that people raised in another,
less-competitive environment lack. Makes sense to me.

Still, I hate what Satya Nadella has done by directing the development
of Windows 10 and what Ajit Pai has done regarding Net Neutrality.

Wildman

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:50:40 -0800, John Corliss wrote:

> It's up to you who are calling me a "racist" to explain just exactly WHY
> you're doing so.

You are the one that first used the word "racist" in response
to a post made by MikeS.

OTOH you are correct in that racism does not apply here. The
word biggot would be more accurate.

But, in the real world there are questions that are much more
important. For example, how/why are Muslims being elected or
appointed to government positions when their beliefs and laws
are in direct conflict with the US Constitution? That should
worry you more than who is manning the call centers.

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Dec 14, 2018, 11:50:33 AM12/14/18
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:50:40 -0800, John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Wildman wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>> MikeS wrote:
>>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
>>>>> mean native Americans:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=why+are+all+the+technology+ceos+indian&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=lang_en&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=
>>>>>
>>>>> or:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y92dmptn
>>>>>
>>>> The title of this thread and his question tells us far more about John
>>>> Corliss than about India or technology companies.
>
>A trollish remark if I ever heard one. Designed to generate an emotional
>response and totally unsupported by documentation or explanation.

+1 MikeS is a goddamn virtue signaling socialist pinko snowflake. These
left/right/left socialist/fascist bastard demorats are a new fifth
column who support the creeping menace. Ask abelard.

>>> Oh yeah, I suppose I'm a fucking racist. Get a grip.
>>
>> Then what was the point of your post?

>That people from the COUNTRY of India are taking over the tech industry
>in the United States.

abelard and his trusty warrior elite [Bouffy] will fix it!

They have a plan [*Not a spooky or creepy one*]

Shadow

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 10:22:21 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:50:40 -0800, John Corliss wrote:
>
>> It's up to you who are calling me a "racist" to explain just exactly WHY
>> you're doing so.
>
>You are the one that first used the word "racist" in response
>to a post made by MikeS.
>
>OTOH you are correct in that racism does not apply here. The
>word biggot would be more accurate.
>
>But, in the real world there are questions that are much more
>important. For example, how/why are Muslims being elected or
>appointed to government positions when their beliefs and laws
>are in direct conflict with the US Constitution? That should
>worry you more than who is manning the call centers.

An idea can NEVER conflict with freedom.
"Hey, you, stop thinking about that or we'll ship you to
Guantanamo and torture you"
What on earth do you mean, that the US is no longer free ?

Wildman

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Come on, you are not that stupid. People taking a oath to
uphold the US Constitution when their religious beliefs are
in direct conflict with it. You don't see that as a problem?

The people in the US are free to practice any religion they
choose within the confines of existing law. Beheading infidels
and underminding the Constitution are still considered illegal,
so far.

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Dec 14, 2018, 1:44:19 PM12/14/18
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I'm getting lost. I thought we were talking about creepy Indians. Most
Indians are Hindus. Where did the Muslim bit come from? Is it because
they have a similar permanent suntan? If it's a suntan issue I would be
a Muslim for several months of the year. Anyhow, I thought the first
amendment guaranteed freedom of religion so how does that conflict with
the constitution. The call centres remark... like whoosh over the top of
my head man... This is like too blue sky for a cat.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 12:40:15 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 15:49:15 -0200, Shadow wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 10:22:21 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:50:40 -0800, John Corliss wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's up to you who are calling me a "racist" to explain just exactly WHY
>>>> you're doing so.
>>>
>>>You are the one that first used the word "racist" in response
>>>to a post made by MikeS.
>>>
>>>OTOH you are correct in that racism does not apply here. The
>>>word biggot would be more accurate.
>>>
>>>But, in the real world there are questions that are much more
>>>important. For example, how/why are Muslims being elected or
>>>appointed to government positions when their beliefs and laws
>>>are in direct conflict with the US Constitution? That should
>>>worry you more than who is manning the call centers.
>>
>> An idea can NEVER conflict with freedom.
>> "Hey, you, stop thinking about that or we'll ship you to
>> Guantanamo and torture you"
>> What on earth do you mean, that the US is no longer free ?
>> []'s
>
>Come on, you are not that stupid. People taking a oath to
>uphold the US Constitution when their religious beliefs are
>in direct conflict with it. You don't see that as a problem?

Damn Catholics.

>The people in the US are free to practice any religion they
>choose within the confines of existing law. Beheading infidels
>and underminding the Constitution are still considered illegal,
>so far.

John Corliss

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Dec 15, 2018, 6:04:19 AM12/15/18
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Wildman wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>> It's up to you who are calling me a "racist" to explain just exactly WHY
>> you're doing so.
>
> You are the one that first used the word "racist" in response
> to a post made by MikeS.

Well then, YOU or MIKE can tell me what he meant. Seems pretty obvious
to me, and probably to anybody who is reading this thread, though.

> OTOH you are correct in that racism does not apply here. The
> word biggot would be more accurate.
>
> But, in the real world there are questions that are much more
> important. For example, how/why are Muslims being elected or
> appointed to government positions when their beliefs and laws
> are in direct conflict with the US Constitution? That should
> worry you more than who is manning the call centers.

"Manning the call centers"? The men I referred to are doing far more
than that. Perhaps you didn't read the OP clearly enough.

Bill Day

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Dec 15, 2018, 9:13:48 AM12/15/18
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 12:40:15 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
**Some** Muslims interpret & distort the basic tenets of Islam, just
as some Christians play fast & loose with their reading of the
Christian bible. You just state flatly that Muslim belief in general
conflicts with and [underminds] (sic) the US Constitution, and you
don't explain how.
Sounds to me like someone who just 'doesn't like 'em or trust 'em,
even though many have served in the US military with honor and behave
decently.
--
remove nonsense for reply

Wildman

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Dec 15, 2018, 10:23:28 AM12/15/18
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It is clear you have never read the Quran or the US Constitution.
The Christians I know do not pick and choose the parts of the
Bible they want to believe. Do you believe there are Muslims
that pick and choose the parts of the Quran they believe?

Shadow

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Dec 15, 2018, 11:53:22 AM12/15/18
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:23:20 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>It is clear you have never read the Quran or the US Constitution.
>The Christians I know do not pick and choose the parts of the
>Bible they want to believe

"The Ten Commandments, are a set of biblical principles relating to
ethics and worship, which play a fundamental role in Christianity.
"Thou shalt not kill" is probably the most important one."

Ring a bell ?
No ?

Disclaimer
"Except when dropping bombs on hospitals and schools full of
women and children"

Ah !!! That sounds much more Amerikan !!!
Really creepy, huh ?
Sorry, if you were trying to make a point about something, try
again.

Wildman

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Dec 15, 2018, 12:22:16 PM12/15/18
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Typical anti-american and anti-christian talking points. Not
being either one, you have no credibility. Stick to what you
are good at, software and conspiracy theories.

Shadow

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Dec 15, 2018, 12:46:19 PM12/15/18
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 11:22:09 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 14:52:28 -0200, Shadow wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:23:20 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It is clear you have never read the Quran or the US Constitution.
>>>The Christians I know do not pick and choose the parts of the
>>>Bible they want to believe
>>
>> "The Ten Commandments, are a set of biblical principles relating to
>> ethics and worship, which play a fundamental role in Christianity.
>> "Thou shalt not kill" is probably the most important one."
>>
>> Ring a bell ?
>> No ?
>>
>> Disclaimer
>> "Except when dropping bombs on hospitals and schools full of
>> women and children"
>>
>> Ah !!! That sounds much more Amerikan !!!
>> Really creepy, huh ?
>> Sorry, if you were trying to make a point about something, try
>> again.
>> []'s
>
>Typical anti-american and anti-christian talking points.

Sorry I mentioned the Bible. Didn't think you hated it so
much.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Dec 15, 2018, 12:56:33 PM12/15/18
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How many lobotomies are required?

I mean the way you choose to deny what is plainly self evident is
breathtaking.

Watch "The Vietnam War: A Film by Ken Burns". There is stacks of footage
of you doing that and much more on a huge scale. To a country half way
around the world and no threat to you. Open your eyes.

Bill Day

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Dec 15, 2018, 8:38:40 PM12/15/18
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 09:23:20 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
I suspect that you know a pretty narrow selection of Christians. It
is very easy to show that many DO pick & choose which parts of the
Bible to follow and believe. Not only that, they pick & choose which
translation of which version to begin with. The grouping and selection
of what books are included is quite a long story of politics and
culture as well as religion. The scholars selected by King James to do
a 'definitive' Bible had directives to emphasize certain things...and
to NOT include various manuscripts that many modern scholars think
should have been chosen.
As to Muslims... of course some DO interpret the Quran to suit what
they wish to believe... and Islam doesn't have quite the direct lines
of authority that most Christian religions do. There is nothing quite
equivalent to the Pope... and the process of teaching Imams and
'certifying' them varies a lot in different sects of Islam....
"The best known split, into Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, and
Kharijites, was mainly political at first but eventually acquired
theological and juridical dimensions."
Even today Sunnis and Shiites differ over very significant beliefs
and often engage in violence, even as the read the same Quran.
...and I HAVE read the US Constitution and parts of the Quran. Like
the Bible, many parts of the Quran are, to say the least, poetic and
ambiguous....

Flasherly

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Dec 16, 2018, 12:37:16 AM12/16/18
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 20:38:32 -0500, Bill Day
<extreeN...@verizon.net> wrote:

> There is nothing quite
>equivalent to the Pope... and the process of teaching Imams and
>'certifying' them varies a lot in different sects of Islam....

– origin Old English, via ecclesiastical Latin from ecclesiastical
Greek papas ‘bishop, patriarch’, variant of Greek pappas ‘father’.

Depends, since it's more or less magnitude. The followers of a
religious prophet, Muhammad, didn't occur for a magnitude of the
Greco-Roman foundation, incidental to religiosity, but functionally a
business of empire building;- Conversely religiosity, in some
instances an overlap, assumes an incident Islamic empire state from a
reserve as much to say of cultural isolation from the West.

The pope is simply equivalent to a play upon imperator, a prevailing
state of Christianus more or less to lend to deification on earthlier
terms, as it ensues forth to clasp at the hem of a tattered succession
of the Republic ceded Augustus.

-

“Deserts possess a particular magic, since they have exhausted their
own futures, and are thus free of time. Anything erected there, a
city, a pyramid, a motel, stands outside time. It's no coincidence
that religious leaders emerge from the desert. Modern shopping malls
have much the same function. A future Rimbaud, Van Gogh or Adolf
Hitler will emerge from their timeless wastes.”
-- The Atrocity Exhibition, JGB

Wildman

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Dec 16, 2018, 12:37:46 AM12/16/18
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How many lobotomies have you had? None of that
has anything to do with my original point.

Wildman

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Dec 16, 2018, 12:39:37 AM12/16/18
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You have no idea what I think.

Wildman

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Dec 16, 2018, 12:40:38 AM12/16/18
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Believe what you want, I'm done.

Jenny Telia

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Dec 16, 2018, 10:20:44 AM12/16/18
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https://cattime.com/cat-breeds/bombay-cats

...sent from his iFurryUnderbelly

Jenny Telia

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Dec 16, 2018, 10:26:51 AM12/16/18
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Add 'Damn Trump' to that. That Russki lovin' Putin's bitch.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Dec 16, 2018, 6:27:42 PM12/16/18
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70 million American males have been subjected to Male Genital
Mutilation. Most as babies.

It's a human rights violation.

Is it not?

It's really creepy. Is it not?

and you are worried about creepy Indians only 1 in 10 who is in fact a
Muslim.

Sharia law, who cares. It's never going to happen. Leave the kids dicks
alone you fucking perverts.

Shadow

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Dec 17, 2018, 6:22:18 AM12/17/18
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:56:30 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
A lobotomy, or even multiple lobotomies won't work. There will
still be enough neurons left in the spinal chord and tissues to
"think" like a bible-thumper.
Maybe that Ponk-Kong-Bam nutcase from north somewhere or other
has the "cure" for absolute stupidity. Lets see if it works.

Jenny Telia

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Dec 17, 2018, 9:38:09 AM12/17/18
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Neither do you, Yank. If you did, you wouldn't shoot your mouth off
without checking.

»Q«

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Dec 17, 2018, 10:56:24 AM12/17/18
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 01:50:40 -0800
John Corliss <r9j...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> It's up to you who are calling me a "racist" to explain just exactly
> WHY you're doing so.

From
<http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cpudmch%24qmq%241%40dont-email.me%3E>:

When is this bullshit going to stop? It has absolutely NOTHING to do
with the purpose of this newsgroup, which is to discuss freeware. Why
can't you people take this nonsense somewhere else more appropriate.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

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Dec 17, 2018, 11:57:14 AM12/17/18
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>*<. that was horrid

LOL

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Dec 17, 2018, 12:12:21 PM12/17/18
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On 12/12/2018 7:17 PM, John Corliss wrote:
> Why are so many CEOs of leading technology companies Indian? And I don't
> mean native Americans:
>

It gotta be witchcraft! ;)

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Dec 18, 2018, 12:22:34 PM12/18/18
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If you have any evidence to support that claim, you should
contact Meuller. He has been up Trump's ass for two years
and hasn't found anything.

Shadow

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:22:25 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 16:26:44 +0100, Jenny Telia wrote:
>
>> On 14/12/2018 19:51, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 12:40:15 -0600, Wildman <best...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Come on, you are not that stupid. People taking a oath to
>>>> uphold the US Constitution when their religious beliefs are
>>>> in direct conflict with it. You don't see that as a problem?
>>>
>>> Damn Catholics.
>>
>>
>> Add 'Damn Trump' to that. That Russki lovin' Putin's bitch.
>
>If you have any evidence to support that claim, you should
>contact Meuller. He has been up Trump's ass for two years
>and hasn't found anything.

Obviously looking in the wrong place. That where he keeps his
brain.
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