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Has anyone heard of this program or used it - Iobit Security?

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mar...@noaddy.com

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Oct 9, 2009, 9:22:11 AM10/9/09
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http://www.iobit.com/security360.html

It's freeware - supposedly.

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mar...@noaddy.com

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Oct 13, 2009, 1:40:19 PM10/13/09
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:31:32 +0000, Vadim Igorev <jhR...@SMkdCb.edu>
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>mar...@noaddy.com wrote:
>> http://www.iobit.com/security360.html
>>
>> It's freeware - supposedly.

>A bit offtopic, but... I did not use the "IObit Security 360", but for
>quite some time I used their "IObit Smart Defrag" defragmenter (before I
>switched to a business free Defraggler, that is) - the software worked
>well and I did not notice any malwares coming together with it. Free
>version was demonstrating banners, though.

Banners, eh? I think I'll take a pass on this one. It seems that too
much freeware these days have either banners or toolbars.

Thanks for answering.

David H. Lipman

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FromTheRafters

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> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:09:12 -0500, David H. Lipman wrote:
>
>> From: <mar...@noaddy.com>
>>
>> And they've been stealing the Malwarebytes' database !
>>
>> http://malwarebytes.besttechie.net/
>
> In the name of fair play
> http://tinyurl.com/yjcfqm5

Took me a while, but then it dawned on me what you meant. :o)

...but is stealing from thieves really fair play?


The Real Truth MVP

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Nov 2, 2009, 7:58:06 PM11/2/09
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Turn around is fair play...ha hahahahahah Malware Bytes employs thieves so I
don't see a problem. Watch when nothing happens to IOBit. Ever hear the term
Clean hands?

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FromTheRafters

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"The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com> wrote in message
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> Turn around is fair play...ha hahahahahah Malware Bytes employs
> thieves so I don't see a problem. Watch when nothing happens to IOBit.
> Ever hear the term Clean hands?

Maybe they should seek you out as a character reference. You may find so
much in common between you and them.

"Thick as thieves" as they say...


The Real Truth MVP

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:28:01 PM11/2/09
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They already did you stupid idiot how the hell do you think I know nothing
is going to happen to them. I posted about it last week before MBAM went
public, learn to read.


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FromTheRafters

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"The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com> wrote in message
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> They already did you stupid idiot how the hell do you think I know
> nothing is going to happen to them. I posted about it last week before
> MBAM went public, learn to read.

So...you'll add perjury to your repertoire...or fold under cross
examination.

'Yes! I'm a liar and a thief - but I'm telling the truth *now* your
honor, well sorta.'


David H. Lipman

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Nov 2, 2009, 10:29:00 PM11/2/09
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From: "FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org>


He already committed perjury (by statute) when he filed a fraudulent DMCA takedown
notification and by using a Sock Puppet to do so he committed fraud.

FromTheRafters

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Nov 2, 2009, 10:44:52 PM11/2/09
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org>
>
> | "The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com> wrote in message
> | news:hco4fm$tb7$1...@leythos.motzarella.org...
>>> They already did you stupid idiot how the hell do you think I know
>>> nothing is going to happen to them. I posted about it last week
>>> before
>>> MBAM went public, learn to read.
>
> | So...you'll add perjury to your repertoire...or fold under cross
> | examination.
>
> | 'Yes! I'm a liar and a thief - but I'm telling the truth *now* your
> | honor, well sorta.'
>
>
> He already committed perjury (by statute) when he filed a fraudulent
> DMCA takedown
> notification and by using a Sock Puppet to do so he committed fraud.

Yeah, I don't believe anything it says anymore anyway. Boiled down, the
last post reduces to "I know nothing" once the lies and verbal vitriol
are removed. *That's* the real truth. :o)


David H. Lipman

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Nov 2, 2009, 10:56:11 PM11/2/09
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:-)

The Real Truth MVP

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Nov 2, 2009, 11:06:34 PM11/2/09
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Cry baby still pissed because you lost your website I see. That's exactly
what happens to thieves you are living proof.

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The Real Truth MVP

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Nov 3, 2009, 8:11:46 PM11/3/09
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Hey dumbass that is not the link shitforbrains. His link has been down for
years now and still is. If your dumbass had any sense you would know that a
host file does not shutdown a web site it just keeps idiots like you from
accessing them.


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> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:06:34 -0800, "The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Cry baby still pissed because you lost your website I see. That's exactly
>>what happens to thieves you are living proof.
>

> "http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html" still works on my
> end.
>
>
> Funny though, your's won't load. I use the MVPS HOSTS file.
>
>
>

George Orwell

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Nov 3, 2009, 8:56:34 PM11/3/09
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:19:51 -0600, G. Morgan <usenet...@gawab.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:09:12 -0500, "David H. Lipman"
><DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
>>And they've been stealing the Malwarebytes' database !
>

>Made the headlines today!
>http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/03/malwarebytes-definition-database-stolen-misused-by-iobit/

Good for them! Any outfit such as Malwarebytes who endangers trusting
customers by employing a p.o.s like virus-writing RAID deserves to be
put out of business before this p.o.s RAID can - and will - inevitably
sneak in one of his virus dumps and destroy the comps of more innocent
users.

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FromTheRafters

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Nov 3, 2009, 9:32:04 PM11/3/09
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"G. Morgan" <usenet...@gawab.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:06:34 -0800, "The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Cry baby still pissed because you lost your website I see. That's
>>exactly
>>what happens to thieves you are living proof.
>
> "http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html" still works on
> my end.
>
>
> Funny though, your's won't load. I use the MVPS HOSTS file.

I'm sure that there's a logical explanation...are you using a local
lookup as a bullshit filter :o)

...and wasn't it Ian's website (an innocent victim - collateral damage
from Butts' false accusation)?


The Real Truth MVP

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:22:25 PM11/3/09
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The fact is David got caught stealing software and was shutdown for it. Yet
it is acceptable to you because you believe his BS. My site has never been
shutdown because I DON"T steal. Now wait and see what happens to IObit. I
know for a fact that they stole MBAM database but then where did MBAM get
their database from. The BS excuse IObit posted on their site
http://blog.iobit.com/archives/95.html will probably fly and if it does not
then you will once again see how easy it is to shutdown a website for
stealing. Yet mine is still up but according to all these trolls who you
believe 100% everything on my site is stolen..

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FromTheRafters

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"The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com> wrote in message
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> The fact is David got caught stealing software and was shutdown for
> it.

Since I know that you are a liar, I will assume that that is a lie.

> Yet it is acceptable to you because you believe his BS.

I give him the benefit of the doubt because he has not demonstrated to
me that he is a liar like you have done.

> My site has never been shutdown because I DON"T steal.

It has been logically proven (with your participation) that you indeed
have taken credit for the work of others. In your lame attempts to
wriggle your way out of it, you proved yourself a liar as well - which
was no surprise really.

[...]

>...but according to all these trolls who you believe 100% everything on
>my site is stolen..

I don't recall ever hearing anyone make that claim. I haven't any proof
of that. All I know is that more than 0% is the work of others, which
you have claimed as yours.


Leythos

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Nov 4, 2009, 5:20:25 AM11/4/09
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In article <hcqs1n$ktv$1...@leythos.motzarella.org>, t...@void.com says...

> Yet mine is still up but according to all these trolls who you
> believe 100% everything on my site is stolen..
>

If you switched your hosting company to one that didn't require a court
order, one that just followed basic DMCA notices and proof, you would
have been down a long time ago.

You hosting provider clearly stated that they don't care what is on your
site unless THEY are presented with a court order to take your site
down.

Your hosting provider clearly stated that they only require you to
"Dispute", not prove, any claim against you, and they will ignore the
claim until a court order is produced.

Many vendors have posted in Usenet that you are not authorized to use
their code, host their files, and you've changed the names many times,
changed how you provide links, run around in circles to get around their
take-down-notices.

You are not fooling anyone with your lies and deceptions.

I notice how you're still STALKING ME - it shows in your account name,
using my name instead of your own.

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David H. Lipman

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From: "FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org>

| "The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com> wrote in message
| news:hcqs1n$ktv$1...@leythos.motzarella.org...

>> The fact is David got caught stealing software and was shutdown for
>> it.

| Since I know that you are a liar, I will assume that that is a lie.


You are correct in your assumption.

I have not stolen anything and the ONLY voice to this effect you hear is Butts'.

The fact is a 'nym, without proof existence, filed a DMCA claim (3/23/'07) to the web site
provider (IPowerWeb) for Ian Kenefick's web site (IK-CS.Com) indicating that this 'nym had
created my Multi AV Scanning Tool, WinFixerFix, SmitFraud Fix and the WGET utility.

The fact is that my Multi AV is extremely unique in that it is written in KiXtart. There
are ZERO other anti malware utilities written in this interpreter. Additionally for well
over 15 years I have been a member of the KiXtart community and have collaborated with
them in the Multi AV Scanning Tool. However it was built upon previous work such as the
Trend Sysclean Front End and the McAfee Front End which were combined in what became the
Multi AV Scanning Tool. Additionally there were other anti malware scanners built around
the same core code that preceeded the Multi AV that was not in the DMCA complaint.

As an additional fact, the DMCA notification claimed...
"All three programs listed above use a utility called WGET.exe which belongs to me. I am
the author of that program and the website has No permission to use it. References to my
wget program can be found here"

The WGET utility is 100% free and freely distributable under the Free Software Foundation
and GNU public licenses and was *NEVER* authored by "Gregory Taylor, trg...@gmail.com "
which was the 'nym used in the DMCA Takedown Notification. Micah J. Cowan is the
maintainer of WGET.

The DMCA Takedown Notification was a fraudulent fabrication and the noted author "Gregory
Taylor, President and CEO, GT tools inc" doesn't even exist.

The above fraudulent act was indeed perpetrated by Butts in retaliation for me publicly
denouncing his plagiarism of other people's software and violations of their intellectual
property rights.

FromTheRafters

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...and besides that, Butts is *such* a crybaby. :oD

Thanks for taking the time to explain this in detail. I remember Ian
from these groups in past years.


David H. Lipman

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From: "FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org>

| ...and besides that, Butts is *such* a crybaby. :oD

| Thanks for taking the time to explain this in detail. I remember Ian
| from these groups in past years.

Within days of the DMCA Takedown notification, Ian's son Tom was born and he had no time
to deal with Butts' bullshit. He had filed a formal Counter Notification but it was
ignored. Presumably because he is a citizen of Cork Ireland and not the US. Because of
his new son, his need to buy a new house, etc., he did not take further action and the
site remained suspended and then it was ultimately shutdown.

http://www.iansblog.org/foto/index.php

The Real Truth MVP

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Nov 4, 2009, 7:05:01 PM11/4/09
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Does not matter where he lives, all YOU had to do was prove that software
was not stolen and indeed yours, you could not because you stole it. Ian
trusted you, you fooled him like you are fooling everyone here except me.
Proving the software is yours is very easy. I have had 3 fraudulent DMCA
complaints filed against me perpetrated by you and beat them all because it
was proven by me that my software is MINE. You can bitch and complain all
you want it will NOT change the facts or bring your friends website back.
You tried real hard. You could have easily opened your own website and
continue to push your stolen crap but you knew that any website you try to
open in the USA will suffer the same fate. So you decided to have some
foreign site host your stolen crap because it is out of the jurisdiction of
US laws. That is what kind of scum you are.


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Leythos

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In article <hct4ri$m66$1...@leythos.motzarella.org>, t...@void.com says...

> I have had 3 fraudulent DMCA
> complaints filed against me perpetrated by you and beat them all because it
> was proven by me that my software is MINE.
>

Actually, you've lied about this every time. Your hosting provider has
stated that you don't need to PROVE anything, they will only take action
against you by court order. They have said that they give you time to
"dispute" the claim, that you only need to say you dispute it, don't
need to prove anything, and that they will wait for a court order that
orders you/them to remove the work in question.

So, again, you've lied and anyone that wants can verify this with your
hosting provider.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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The Fake Truth Nobody-Would-Give-You-an-MVP wrote:

> .. because it was proven by me that my software is MINE.

Anyone with an IQ anywhere near room temperature could compare "your"
scripts and files with those of the real authors and see that all you've
done is copy them and change attributions.

<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q="obatssrsghde.exe">

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David H. Lipman

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From: "Leythos" <spam9...@rrohio.com>

| In article <hct4ri$m66$1...@leythos.motzarella.org>, t...@void.com says...
>> I have had 3 fraudulent DMCA
>> complaints filed against me perpetrated by you and beat them all because it
>> was proven by me that my software is MINE.


| Actually, you've lied about this every time. Your hosting provider has
| stated that you don't need to PROVE anything, they will only take action
| against you by court order. They have said that they give you time to
| "dispute" the claim, that you only need to say you dispute it, don't
| need to prove anything, and that they will wait for a court order that
| orders you/them to remove the work in question.

| So, again, you've lied and anyone that wants can verify this with your
| hosting provider.

And they have been generated by REAL people with REAL software infringements.

I saw Robert A. Cooper's and it wasn't a case of fraud. His was legitimate. He formatted
his complaint wrong and complained about software infringements that were out of scope of
his own copyright infringement.

I also have seen Stuart's. His was formatted correctly and was in scope. That caused
SpyErase to become Remove-It. Compare both and anyone can see that they are the same.
However as you have noted Leythos the hosting company then indicated no further action
would be taken without a court order. An expensive proposition.

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David H. Lipman

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| Leythos wrote:
>>Your hosting provider has
>>stated that you don't need to PROVE anything, they will only take action
>>against you by court order. They have said that they give you time to
>>"dispute" the claim, that you only need to say you dispute it, don't
>>need to prove anything, and that they will wait for a court order that
>>orders you/them to remove the work in question.

| Sounds like a company that is willing to support the position that their
| customer gets a priori validity and if someone contests that, and has a
| legitimate case (not just nymshit sniveling), they should be able to obtain
| affirmation of their claim with a court order. What's wrong with that?

Where was there "just nymshit sniveling" ?

The Real Truth MVP

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Nov 5, 2009, 10:01:50 PM11/5/09
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My ISP followed the law. Leythos is pissed because they did follow the law
and not believe his dumbass. And he is wrong what he said in his post. By
law, and it is written in the DMCA that all complaints are handled by a
designated agent, my Isp's designated agent is their legal dept. You can't
just call up my ISP and speak to someone in the legal dept. I can't just say
I dispute something and that's the end of it until a lawsuit is filed. I had
to show proof to their attorney that the software was mine and so does the
complaining party. If I did not they would automatically shutdown my site.
In fact my site was down for approximately 1 hour until I showed them proof.
By law when a complaint if filed it is an immediate takedown until I show
proof or remove the offending content. The complainant then has 14 days to
file a formal complaint with the court. After the 14 days no matter what I
do or them the site goes back up. Any other DMCA complaints filed after that
for the same content is ignored without a court order. I have script running
on my site that notifies my if the site goes down. I knew it went down and
immediately disputed it and gave my ISP proof the site went back up and has
been up every since. They did try to file two more DMCA complaint but they
failed for reasons stated above. they then went after Giganews and failed
there too. $46 is all it costs to file a complaint with the court yet no one
has done that simply because they are trolls and have no proof I stole
anything because I did not. Yet David's site was down in a matter of minutes
permanently. He never says but I bet whoever filed that complaint had proof
like I did, David knew he stole it so he just said fuck it I'll but it up
somewhere else and that is exactly what he did.

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> Leythos wrote:
>>Your hosting provider has
>>stated that you don't need to PROVE anything, they will only take action
>>against you by court order. They have said that they give you time to
>>"dispute" the claim, that you only need to say you dispute it, don't
>>need to prove anything, and that they will wait for a court order that
>>orders you/them to remove the work in question.
>

FromTheRafters

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"The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com> wrote in message
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[...waaaa - waaaa]

> $46 is all it costs to file a complaint with the court yet no one has

> done that simply because...

You aren't worth the expenditure. You're just a joke.

Not being worth 46 dollars doesn't make you not a lying thief.

[snipped more crying]

You could conceivably prove that others have stolen from you - you need
only place a marker in your software and make it known to those you wish
to convince - and then demonstrate that it *later* appears in the
software you claim was stolen from you

If you recall, that is what happened to *you* a short time ago.

You still believe that you can always cover your lies with more lies,
but nothing will undo the proof we already have. The proposed
demonstration above will never happen because it requires that
information flows in a particular direction - and can't just be
fabricated by another of your complex lies.


Kulin Remailer

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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:39:18 -0500, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>From: "ASCII" <m...@privacy.net>
>
>| Leythos wrote:
>>>Your hosting provider has
>>>stated that you don't need to PROVE anything, they will only take action
>>>against you by court order. They have said that they give you time to
>>>"dispute" the claim, that you only need to say you dispute it, don't
>>>need to prove anything, and that they will wait for a court order that
>>>orders you/them to remove the work in question.
>
>| Sounds like a company that is willing to support the position that their
>| customer gets a priori validity and if someone contests that, and has a
>| legitimate case (not just nymshit sniveling), they should be able to
obtain
>| affirmation of their claim with a court order. What's wrong with that?
>

>Where was there "just nymshit sniveling" ?

As far as I'm concerned, I'm tired of all the "sniveling" filling this
group. Normally, I'd kill filter this crap. Unfortunately, Many of the
"snivelers" in this group also provide some of the best help to the
questioners in this group.

It is totally and completely beyond me why so many useful members of
this group waste their time on this crap. Who cares if a certain party
is stealing software and claiming it as his own creation? That should
be a matter for the true authors of the software. If these people do not
care enough to take the proper avenues to solve this problem, then to
the hell with it. Why keep filling this group with this crap? If the
subject of these posts were a virus writer/passer, the unending
complaints would be justified, but I haven't seen any such claim against
him. So why not just ignore the guy? Who cares if people download and
use "his" software? As I said, if the true authors won't/can't handle
this situation, why keep filling his group with this constant, angry crap?

nobody >

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..... well.... Welcome to Usenet....

The "Real(?) Truth(?) MVP" is pretty much a hated k00k all over Usenet.
S/He's also capable of long,loud, and disjointed denials if "prodded
properly".
It's actually fun to provoke k00ks this way, it's a Usenet tradition
since before there was an Internet.

There are thousands of these k00ks to play with, try looking up Richard
Bullis, aka Richard the Stupid or just RtS. Tim Bolen/Charles Griffman
is another.

http://www.searchlores.org/way_kook.htmhttp://www.knoxviews.com/node/3512


Leythos

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:07:37 AM11/6/09
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In article <hd03j1$or8$1...@leythos.motzarella.org>, t...@void.com says...

> My ISP followed the law. Leythos is pissed because they did follow the law
> and not believe his dumbass. And he is wrong what he said in his post. By
> law, and it is written in the DMCA that all complaints are handled by a
> designated agent, my Isp's designated agent is their legal dept. You can't
> just call up my ISP and speak to someone in the legal dept. I can't just say
> I dispute something and that's the end of it until a lawsuit is filed. I had
> to show proof to their attorney that the software was mine and so does the
> complaining party.
>

Wrong, several of us talked with the hosting company you use - they
clearly stated that ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DISPUTE, NOT PROVE, THE CLAIM
AGAINST YOU.

Leythos

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:08:57 AM11/6/09
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In article <8AMTLTUK4012...@reece.net.au>,
rema...@reece.net.au says...

> It is totally and completely beyond me why so many useful members of
> this group waste their time on this crap.
>

Because the good members of this group don't support PIRACY. If you
can't understand and back the idea of being AGAINST PIRACY then you
should consider changing your morals.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:23:50 AM11/6/09
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Kulin Remailer wrote:

> As far as I'm concerned, I'm tired of all the "sniveling" filling this
> group. Normally, I'd kill filter this crap. Unfortunately, Many of
> the "snivelers" in this group also provide some of the best help to
> the questioners in this group.

May I suggest that when you find a thread like this that you press "I"
and ignore the rest of it?

> It is totally and completely beyond me why so many useful members of
> this group waste their time on this crap. Who cares if a certain
> party is stealing software and claiming it as his own creation? That
> should be a matter for the true authors of the software. If these
> people do not care enough to take the proper avenues to solve this
> problem, then to the hell with it. Why keep filling this group with
> this crap? If the subject of these posts were a virus writer/passer,
> the unending complaints would be justified, but I haven't seen any
> such claim against him. So why not just ignore the guy? Who cares if
> people download and use "his" software? As I said, if the true
> authors won't/can't handle this situation, why keep filling his group
> with this constant, angry crap?

Since newbies never read any previous (archived) posts before posting,
they won't know if Butts' advice is good or bad. Consider also that his
software (his stolen "Remove-It") installs his modified stolen mvps
hosts file, in which he adds the sites of legitimate authors, including
the sites of the very people he has stolen it from.

I've personally caught him twice:
a) when he forgot to remove the mvps signature in "his" hosts file
b) when he first stole Andrew Aronoff's SilentRunners script
which he renamed "What's Live Running Now" and where it says"
"'DO NOT REMOVE THIS HEADER!" .. he did just that.

--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows

FromTheRafters

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Nov 6, 2009, 9:34:43 AM11/6/09
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"Kulin Remailer" <rema...@reece.net.au> wrote in message
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[...]

> Who cares if a certain party is stealing software and
> claiming it as his own creation? That should be a
> matter for the true authors of the software.

True, but it not only steals software, but has distributed a "hosts"
file local lookup with it's partially software that disrupts users'
ability to fight a malware infestation.

That kinda puts it back in this arena. The blatant lies it tells here
have no chance of convincing anyone here, except for the new ones coming
here for help. Visitors here should be warned against trusting PCButts.

[...]

FromTheRafters

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"Kulin Remailer" <rema...@reece.net.au> wrote in message
news:8AMTLTUK40123.5132523148@reece.net.au...

> Who cares if a certain party is stealing software and


> claiming it as his own creation? That should be a
> matter for the true authors of the software.

True, but it not only steals software, but has distributed a "hosts"
file local lookup with it's partially stolen software that disrupts

CDR

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:30:47 AM11/6/09
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AMEN to your message and I have suggested several times that these "kids"
go out
and play marbles on the freeway!


"Kulin Remailer" <rema...@reece.net.au> wrote in message
news:8AMTLTUK40123.5132523148@reece.net.au...

David H. Lipman

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Nov 6, 2009, 5:26:15 PM11/6/09
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From: "Leythos" <spam9...@rrohio.com>

| In article <hd03j1$or8$1...@leythos.motzarella.org>, t...@void.com says...
>> My ISP followed the law. Leythos is pissed because they did follow the law
>> and not believe his dumbass. And he is wrong what he said in his post. By
>> law, and it is written in the DMCA that all complaints are handled by a
>> designated agent, my Isp's designated agent is their legal dept. You can't
>> just call up my ISP and speak to someone in the legal dept. I can't just say
>> I dispute something and that's the end of it until a lawsuit is filed. I had
>> to show proof to their attorney that the software was mine and so does the
>> complaining party.


| Wrong, several of us talked with the hosting company you use - they
| clearly stated that ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DISPUTE, NOT PROVE, THE CLAIM
| AGAINST YOU.

You notice that while we can directly point to exactly what he plagiarized and from whom,
he continues to to be generic in his blatant defamation on me.

The whole DMCA Takedown notification to IPowerWeb was as PHONY as the sub-statement
fraudulent claim to the GNU WGET utilty !

David H. Lipman

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Nov 6, 2009, 5:28:15 PM11/6/09
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From: "CDR" <c...@BScomcast.net>

| AMEN to your message and I have suggested several times that these "kids"
| go out
| and play marbles on the freeway!

I'll remember you posted that when YOU post some REAL content.

The Real Truth MVP

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You don't see a claim from him because I am the original author.

--
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*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not waste
your time.
David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos.

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SV Daniels

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Nov 6, 2009, 6:33:35 PM11/6/09
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:06:39 -0800, "The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com>
wrote:

>You don't see a claim from him because I am the original author.

No, *I* am the original author.

See how easy it is to lie on Usenet? Anyone can do it. I just did, and
so did you.

--
SV

David H. Lipman

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:00:47 PM11/6/09
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From: "SV Daniels" <scoot...@none.none>

| --
| SV

Thank you for that post because those that he has plagiarized do NOT post to Usenet!

Dustin Cook

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:35:43 PM11/6/09
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George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote in
news:13c1f9971540ab15...@mixmaster.it:

> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:19:51 -0600, G. Morgan <usenet...@gawab.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:09:12 -0500, "David H. Lipman"
>><DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>>
>>>And they've been stealing the Malwarebytes' database !
>>
>>Made the headlines today!
>>http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/03/malwarebytes-definition-databas
>>e-stolen-misused-by-iobit/
>
> Good for them! Any outfit such as Malwarebytes who endangers trusting
> customers by employing a p.o.s like virus-writing RAID deserves to be
> put out of business before this p.o.s RAID can - and will - inevitably
> sneak in one of his virus dumps and destroy the comps of more innocent
> users.

Such a wonderful demonstration of sheer stupidity.. :)
You seriously need a life.. haha


--
Dustin Cook [Malware Researcher]
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

SV Daniels

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Nov 6, 2009, 8:25:53 PM11/6/09
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:00:47 -0500, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>From: "SV Daniels" <scoot...@none.none>
>
>| On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:06:39 -0800, "The Real Truth MVP" <t...@void.com>
>| wrote:
>
>>>You don't see a claim from him because I am the original author.
>
>| No, *I* am the original author.
>
>| See how easy it is to lie on Usenet? Anyone can do it. I just did, and
>| so did you.
>
>| --
>| SV
>
>Thank you for that post because those that he has plagiarized do NOT post to Usenet!

Welcome, now I'm back to lurk mode. :)

--
SV

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