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Leaked Proud Boys Chats Show Members Plotting Violence At Rallies
The extremist gang claims it’s just a pro-Trump “drinking club.” But
chat logs leaked to HuffPost reveal they plan weaponry and tactics
months ahead.
headshot
By Andy Campbell
A group of Proud Boys and their allies outside a Manhattan GOP event at
which they assaulted protesters.
SHAY HORSE FOR HUFFPOST
A group of Proud Boys and their allies outside a Manhattan GOP event at
which they assaulted protesters.
The Proud Boys want the public to believe that they’re a “drinking
club” who only resort to violence to defend themselves from anti-
fascist protesters during political rallies.
But in private, these extremists have discussed injuring and even
killing their adversaries, plotting tactics and optics for months in
order to assert a claim of self-defense should they face charges.
According to private chat logs obtained exclusively by HuffPost, the
punch-happy, pro-Trump street gang was particularly excited for its
“Resist Marxism” rally, scheduled for April 6 in Providence, Rhode
Island. With the right plan of attack, members said, this one could put
them back on the map.
This mother f**ker needs to meet a 7mm [Magnum rifle] from about 500
yards.
Proud Boy Shaun Hufton in private chats.
The group had been floundering ever since 10 of its members were
arrested for assaulting protesters outside a GOP event in New York City
last year. Their leader, Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes,
reportedly arranged for his followers’ surrender.
In the chats, covering a time period between February and March of this
year, members claimed they needed a conclusive “win” this time around,
which they defined as a bloody battle against “antifa” in Providence.
If this brawl were bigger and more violent than previous iterations,
they might regain some of the street cred and followers they’d lost.
“We’ll grow this group of patriots and we’ll never back down,” wrote
the event’s organizer, Proud Boys member Alan Swinney, in the private
chat messages. “If we win, it will make more patriots come to the next
rally. We just need to go there and we’ll beat them. We’ll have enough
to crush them at some point.”
A source with direct knowledge of the exchanges confirmed to HuffPost
that the logs were authentic. Swinney also responded to several
screenshots. When asked about discussions of violence in the chat logs,
he told HuffPost, “They’re warriors. ... Choir boys don’t go up against
people like that [anti-fascists]. It takes a person with a certain type
of mindset.”
The logs contained a revolving door of up to 30 Proud Boys and their
allies, including militia members and other “patriots,” as Swinney
called them. Those named in this story either publicly identify as
members of the Proud Boys or affiliated groups, or have been identified
as such in national news stories or by the groups’ leaders.
Looking forward to Providence, members in the private channel were
pumped for the opportunity to cause mayhem. One Proud Boy named Anthony
Mastrostefano said:
“All I want to do is smash commies too. Actually I’m lying, I’m way
past just hitting them. When the time comes I will stop at nothing to
fully eradicate them all!”
“We’re A Drinking Club”
The Proud Boys have a yearslong history of violence, and they’ve built
an entire brand off of the fights they’ve helped organize in American
streets, from spars in Los Angeles and Portland, Oregon, to attacks in
Providence and New York.
McInnes created a set of rules by which his gang members could gain
clout in the organization, which include forgoing masturbation, getting
a Proud Boy tattoo and fighting in the name of the gang.
Their leadership has always claimed that such violence is incidental,
acts of self-defense necessitated by their anti-fascist opponents, who
show up to each of their purported free-speech events in protest.
They’ve gone as far as to file lawsuits to maintain that facade ― on
Monday, several of their members stood at the steps of the Lincoln
Memorial in Washington, D.C., and announced that they were suing the
Southern Poverty Law Center for labeling them as a hate group. McInnes
himself filed a defamation lawsuit against the civil rights
organization in February.
“We’re a drinking club that stands behind Donald Trump,” said Proud
Boys chairman Enrique Tarrio at the D.C. event. “That’s enough to earn
hate of the left.”
But private chat logs leaked to HuffPost fly directly in the face of
that sentiment, showing Proud Boys premeditating violence they hope to
commit. They spent months before the April rally meticulously planning
strategies for injuring protesters.
Members discuss what weapons they might use against the “commies”
they’ll meet in the street, which police officers might be sympathetic
to them, how they’ll raise funding to fly out their long-distance
compatriots, and how they’ll “bait” protesters into throwing the first
punch so that they can claim self-defense.
HuffPost has reviewed dozens of private messages shared among a small
group of Proud Boys and their allies, mostly on the social app
Telegram, in the months leading up to the “Resist Marxism” rally they
had planned for April. The chat logs were leaked by a source who wished
to remain anonymous out of fear for their safety.
The rally ultimately didn’t happen, but the logs provide an inside look
into the extremist group’s strategy as well as evidence that such
planning continues to this day.
The Proud Boys Premeditate Violence
“Group, meet Kindness,” wrote Proud Boy Jason Cardona on Telegram,
above a selfie in which he’s holding his pet, an ax.
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“Ahhh, Kindness,” crowed Proud Boy Peter Scott in response. Scott then
posted a picture of himself holding a large knife. Another member, Jake
Adkins, posted a short video depicting an unknown device, asking the
group, “Think I can get this thru in a checked bag?”
On Telegram, the Proud Boys privately fantasized about the weapons they
might like to use against anti-fascist protesters at the rally in
Providence. But they were also cautious about what weapons they told
others to bring, as they didn’t want to face more arrests.
Scott noted that mace is “100 percent legal for self-defense” and
directed everyone else in the chat to “armor up boys!” Makeshift armor
is a common sight among Proud Boys, militia groups and other far-right
extremists at these rallies. Depending on where a gathering occurs,
concealed guns are also a possibility.
“If you’re in a state that can show up with your guns that’s fine. Up
here in New England you can’t but some of us still show up,” wrote
Proud Boy member Kenny Lizardo. HuffPost reported on Lizardo last year
after he showed up on the doorstep of a comedian to intimidate him over
his tweets
“I carry but it seems like to [sic] much could go wrong with that,”
wrote Proud Boy Jason Lewis. “Big patriot fists and boots will do just
fine.”
The gun-measuring contest was interspersed with analysis of street-
level warfare. They explored how to counter “black bloc” tactics used
by anti-fascists, in which protesters wear all black to make it hard to
distinguish individuals, and they shared stories about previous
exploits, most of which included getting a solid punch in without
getting caught.
In some chats, the Proud Boys claimed to have ties to local law
enforcement, though it’s unclear how legitimate those relationships
were. As reported by the Portland, Oregon, alt-weekly Willamette Week,
the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer ― their close allies on the West
Coast ― have had some success garnering police sympathy during their
fights.
“Last year we had two different cops ‘admiring’ our work,” said John
Stewart. “One told us ‘they don’t want to fight you guys again they are
pussies.’ The other thanked us as we walked by him.”
But they would never learn if their apparent clout with police would
help them stage their April 6 rally in Providence ― it fell apart
before it began. The national Proud Boys “elders” announced at the time
that the gathering was postponed while they focused on the trials of
those 10 Proud Boys arrested and charged over last year’s attacks in
New York City.
They Know What They’re Doing
The Proud Boys repeatedly acknowledged that their plans could get them
in trouble.
“I advise all of you to only speak in terms of self-defense and never
speak of premeditated violence,” wrote a man who identified himself as
Kyle “Based Stickman” Chapman, an extremist who has previously been
convicted of violent felonies and is known for his attacks at rallies
and repeated parole violations, among other crimes.
He added: “I could be liable for what happens in Providence. So please
stop making it easy for these people to prosecute us by putting threats
of violence in writing that can be used against us later.”
Few seemed to listen, and leaders like Swinney had to attempt damage
control on a regular basis.
For example, Proud Boy Shaun Hufton at one point made a direct threat
to kill an anti-fascist activist who goes by the pseudonym Antifash
Gordon on Twitter:
“This mother fucker needs to meet a 7mm [Magnum rifle] from about 500
yards,” he said, to which Scott responded, “Do not post any threats on
here, the feds will use it against [us] in court.”
For his part, Swinney often repeated the “defense-only” deflection,
demanding that other Proud Boys characterize their “rallies against
communists” as acts of preservation and their presence as a security
detail for rallygoers.
In an interview, Swinney corroborated the authenticity of chat
screenshots HuffPost showed him and said he personally agreed with
statements about “smashing commies” like Mastrostefano’s.
“He specifically said ‘when the time comes,’” Swinney told HuffPost,
adding later: “When the time comes, and the order is given, I’ll do
whatever it takes to stop these people. The constitution is the
greatest document of freedom ever written. I’ll give my life to defend
it if nessicary [sic].”
Proud Boy Alan Swinney at a rally.
NURPHOTO VIA GETTY IMAGES
Proud Boy Alan Swinney at a rally.
Swinney also confirmed that the Proud Boys had been planning another
rally in Providence, which they hoped to hold June 1, but which now
appears to be on the rocks if not canceled. He said he wouldn’t be
going due to his personal monetary woes, which he blamed on “the left,
SPLC and feds.”
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Leaked Proud Boys Chats Show Members Plotting Violence At Rallies
The extremist gang claims it’s just a pro-Trump “drinking club.” But
chat logs leaked to HuffPost reveal they plan weaponry and tactics
months ahead.
headshot
By Andy Campbell
A group of Proud Boys and their allies outside a Manhattan GOP event at
which they assaulted protesters.
SHAY HORSE FOR HUFFPOST
A group of Proud Boys and their allies outside a Manhattan GOP event at
which they assaulted protesters.
The Proud Boys want the public to believe that they’re a “drinking
club” who only resort to violence to defend themselves from anti-
fascist protesters during political rallies.
But in private, these extremists have discussed injuring and even
killing their adversaries, plotting tactics and optics for months in
order to assert a claim of self-defense should they face charges.
According to private chat logs obtained exclusively by HuffPost, the
punch-happy, pro-Trump street gang was particularly excited for its
“Resist Marxism” rally, scheduled for April 6 in Providence, Rhode
Island. With the right plan of attack, members said, this one could put
them back on the map.
This mother f**ker needs to meet a 7mm [Magnum rifle] from about 500
yards.
Proud Boy Shaun Hufton in private chats.
The group had been floundering ever since 10 of its members were
arrested for assaulting protesters outside a GOP event in New York City
last year. Their leader, Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes,
reportedly arranged for his followers’ surrender.
In the chats, covering a time period between February and March of this
year, members claimed they needed a conclusive “win” this time around,
which they defined as a bloody battle against “antifa” in Providence.
If this brawl were bigger and more violent than previous iterations,
they might regain some of the street cred and followers they’d lost.
“We’ll grow this group of patriots and we’ll never back down,” wrote
the event’s organizer, Proud Boys member Alan Swinney, in the private
chat messages. “If we win, it will make more patriots come to the next
rally. We just need to go there and we’ll beat them. We’ll have enough
to crush them at some point.”
A source with direct knowledge of the exchanges confirmed to HuffPost
that the logs were authentic. Swinney also responded to several
screenshots. When asked about discussions of violence in the chat logs,
he told HuffPost, “They’re warriors. ... Choir boys don’t go up against
people like that [anti-fascists]. It takes a person with a certain type
of mindset.”
The logs contained a revolving door of up to 30 Proud Boys and their
allies, including militia members and other “patriots,” as Swinney
called them. Those named in this story either publicly identify as
members of the Proud Boys or affiliated groups, or have been identified
as such in national news stories or by the groups’ leaders.
Looking forward to Providence, members in the private channel were
pumped for the opportunity to cause mayhem. One Proud Boy named Anthony
Mastrostefano said:
“All I want to do is smash commies too. Actually I’m lying, I’m way
past just hitting them. When the time comes I will stop at nothing to
fully eradicate them all!”
“We’re A Drinking Club”
The Proud Boys have a yearslong history of violence, and they’ve built
an entire brand off of the fights they’ve helped organize in American
streets, from spars in Los Angeles and Portland, Oregon, to attacks in
Providence and New York.
McInnes created a set of rules by which his gang members could gain
clout in the organization, which include forgoing masturbation, getting
a Proud Boy tattoo and fighting in the name of the gang.
Their leadership has always claimed that such violence is incidental,
acts of self-defense necessitated by their anti-fascist opponents, who
show up to each of their purported free-speech events in protest.
They’ve gone as far as to file lawsuits to maintain that facade ― on
Monday, several of their members stood at the steps of the Lincoln
Memorial in Washington, D.C., and announced that they were suing the
Southern Poverty Law Center for labeling them as a hate group. McInnes
himself filed a defamation lawsuit against the civil rights
organization in February.
“We’re a drinking club that stands behind Donald Trump,” said Proud
Boys chairman Enrique Tarrio at the D.C. event. “That’s enough to earn
hate of the left.”
But private chat logs leaked to HuffPost fly directly in the face of
that sentiment, showing Proud Boys premeditating violence they hope to
commit. They spent months before the April rally meticulously planning
strategies for injuring protesters.
Members discuss what weapons they might use against the “commies”
they’ll meet in the street, which police officers might be sympathetic
to them, how they’ll raise funding to fly out their long-distance
compatriots, and how they’ll “bait” protesters into throwing the first
punch so that they can claim self-defense.
HuffPost has reviewed dozens of private messages shared among a small
group of Proud Boys and their allies, mostly on the social app
Telegram, in the months leading up to the “Resist Marxism” rally they
had planned for April. The chat logs were leaked by a source who wished
to remain anonymous out of fear for their safety.
The rally ultimately didn’t happen, but the logs provide an inside look
into the extremist group’s strategy as well as evidence that such
planning continues to this day.
The Proud Boys Premeditate Violence
“Group, meet Kindness,” wrote Proud Boy Jason Cardona on Telegram,
above a selfie in which he’s holding his pet, an ax.
Subscribe to the Politics email.
From Washington to the campaign trail, get the latest politics news.
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“Ahhh, Kindness,” crowed Proud Boy Peter Scott in response. Scott then
posted a picture of himself holding a large knife. Another member, Jake
Adkins, posted a short video depicting an unknown device, asking the
group, “Think I can get this thru in a checked bag?”
On Telegram, the Proud Boys privately fantasized about the weapons they
might like to use against anti-fascist protesters at the rally in
Providence. But they were also cautious about what weapons they told
others to bring, as they didn’t want to face more arrests.
Scott noted that mace is “100 percent legal for self-defense” and
directed everyone else in the chat to “armor up boys!” Makeshift armor
is a common sight among Proud Boys, militia groups and other far-right
extremists at these rallies. Depending on where a gathering occurs,
concealed guns are also a possibility.
“If you’re in a state that can show up with your guns that’s fine. Up
here in New England you can’t but some of us still show up,” wrote
Proud Boy member Kenny Lizardo. HuffPost reported on Lizardo last year
after he showed up on the doorstep of a comedian to intimidate him over
his tweets
“I carry but it seems like to [sic] much could go wrong with that,”
wrote Proud Boy Jason Lewis. “Big patriot fists and boots will do just
fine.”
The gun-measuring contest was interspersed with analysis of street-
level warfare. They explored how to counter “black bloc” tactics used
by anti-fascists, in which protesters wear all black to make it hard to
distinguish individuals, and they shared stories about previous
exploits, most of which included getting a solid punch in without
getting caught.
In some chats, the Proud Boys claimed to have ties to local law
enforcement, though it’s unclear how legitimate those relationships
were. As reported by the Portland, Oregon, alt-weekly Willamette Week,
the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer ― their close allies on the West
Coast ― have had some success garnering police sympathy during their
fights.
“Last year we had two different cops ‘admiring’ our work,” said John
Stewart. “One told us ‘they don’t want to fight you guys again they are
pussies.’ The other thanked us as we walked by him.”
But they would never learn if their apparent clout with police would
help them stage their April 6 rally in Providence ― it fell apart
before it began. The national Proud Boys “elders” announced at the time
that the gathering was postponed while they focused on the trials of
those 10 Proud Boys arrested and charged over last year’s attacks in
New York City.
They Know What They’re Doing
The Proud Boys repeatedly acknowledged that their plans could get them
in trouble.
“I advise all of you to only speak in terms of self-defense and never
speak of premeditated violence,” wrote a man who identified himself as
Kyle “Based Stickman” Chapman, an extremist who has previously been
convicted of violent felonies and is known for his attacks at rallies
and repeated parole violations, among other crimes.
He added: “I could be liable for what happens in Providence. So please
stop making it easy for these people to prosecute us by putting threats
of violence in writing that can be used against us later.”
Few seemed to listen, and leaders like Swinney had to attempt damage
control on a regular basis.
For example, Proud Boy Shaun Hufton at one point made a direct threat
to kill an anti-fascist activist who goes by the pseudonym Antifash
Gordon on Twitter:
“This mother fucker needs to meet a 7mm [Magnum rifle] from about 500
yards,” he said, to which Scott responded, “Do not post any threats on
here, the feds will use it against [us] in court.”
For his part, Swinney often repeated the “defense-only” deflection,
demanding that other Proud Boys characterize their “rallies against
communists” as acts of preservation and their presence as a security
detail for rallygoers.
In an interview, Swinney corroborated the authenticity of chat
screenshots HuffPost showed him and said he personally agreed with
statements about “smashing commies” like Mastrostefano’s.
“He specifically said ‘when the time comes,’” Swinney told HuffPost,
adding later: “When the time comes, and the order is given, I’ll do
whatever it takes to stop these people. The constitution is the
greatest document of freedom ever written. I’ll give my life to defend
it if nessicary [sic].”
Proud Boy Alan Swinney at a rally.
NURPHOTO VIA GETTY IMAGES
Proud Boy Alan Swinney at a rally.
Swinney also confirmed that the Proud Boys had been planning another
rally in Providence, which they hoped to hold June 1, but which now
appears to be on the rocks if not canceled. He said he wouldn’t be
going due to his personal monetary woes, which he blamed on “the left,
SPLC and feds.”
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"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle,
this
seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer,
and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an
end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure
hell
everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized
country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become
like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate
(of alt.checkmate)
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terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at
what
they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing
by
keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1
pussy willow fan)
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"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's
description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of
social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement
which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online
movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets
punched." - Jason Rhode
-
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