Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Police ID veteran LA black gang members killed in Capo Beach, CA jewelry robbery.

2 views
Skip to first unread message

Obama's America

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 2:12:59 AM6/28/11
to
http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1

http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
lnh0f9avery.jpg

SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO � A robber held a gun to a store manager
just before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.

While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee
took out a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two.
The suspect with the handgun did not fire, and one of the
suspects was able to run away, officials said.

Three days after the shooting occurred along the 3300 block of
Doheny Park Road, details are beginning to emerge as to what
happened inside the jewelry store.

Two suspects have been identified as Los Angeles men with gang
ties, and investigators said they are looking for two other men
who fled in a Toyota sedan. Meanwhile, attorneys representing
the owners of Monaco Jewelers said Monday that the owner
lamented the death of the two men but was thankful that his
family and employees are safe.

"Though he regrets the loss of life, he is thankful that his
family and employees are alive," read a written statement
released by Fine & Woliung, the law firm representing the store.

Bonnie Fine, who represents the owners, said the firm would not
release the owners' names out of safety concerns.

When the three men walked in, five people were in the store,
including the owner, wife, son, a manager and saleswoman, said
Bonnie Fine, an attorney representing the jewelry store.

"It was a very traumatic experience for (the owner), and
certainly his wife and son," Fine said. "He's very concerned
about his family."

According to sheriff's investigators, one of the employees
buzzed open the door for Robert Earl Avery, 39, of Los Angeles.

Only Avery was visible through the glass doors when he was
buzzed in, but he held the door open as he walked in, said Jim
Amormino, spokesman for the Sheriff's Department.

Desmond Brown, 39, of Los Angeles also walked in with a third
unidentified man, he said.

"Avery walked to the back and pulled out a handgun," Amormino
said.

Fine said one of the suspects held a gun to the manager's head
at one point, and the suspect and victim struggled as the
manager was forced to the ground.

Officials with the Orange County Sheriff's Department said Avery
was holding the gun to the manager's stomach seconds before the
other employee fired.

"Thinking he was about to shoot his fellow employee, he fired a
handgun, striking suspect Avery," Amormino said.

Brown rushed toward the employee, who then fired at the second
suspect, authorities said.

Both of the men died from their injuries, Amormino said. Only
Avery was seen with a weapon and did not fire the weapon during
the robbery attempt.

The third suspect ran out of the jewelry store and fled in a
light-blue Toyota Camry being driven by a fourth suspect.

Surveillance video from the store's parking lot shows the
suspects arriving to the center and backing into a parking space
in reverse to make sure they could make a quick exit.

Dozens of patrol cars and the sheriff's SWAT team descended on
the shopping center shortly after the shooting took place.
Deputies began to search for the third suspect in the center,
and employees at the nearby Costco evacuated the building before
SWAT officers searched it.

Deputies called off the search about three hours after the
shooting.

Officials are investigating the shooting but believe the
employee fired in justified self-defense, Amormino said.

The suspect's Camry was dumped by the two suspects in the same
parking lot, and investigators believe they climbed into a
second vehicle to elude authorities.

No arrests have been made, and investigators are asking for the
public's help in case someone saw the two suspects jump into a
second car. The third suspect was described as a black man in
his 30s, about 6 feet tall, wearing a light-colored shirt and
dark pants.

Anyone with information is asked to contact investigators at 866-
TIP-OCSD or 866-847-6873.

678.714.5764

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 2:25:27 AM6/28/11
to
On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>
> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>
> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager
> just before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>
> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee
> took out a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two.
> [snip]

Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.


6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:54:57 AM6/28/11
to

And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
criminals, right?

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:00:42 AM6/28/11
to

In this case, yes.
The suspect had a gun and was robbing the place.
What kind of retard are you?

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:02:01 AM6/28/11
to
>"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

Poor Zepp is too stoned to understand the part about robbing the
store. That's proof they were criminals.

They weren't there collecting for the Red Cross.

678.714.5764

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:05:40 AM6/28/11
to

They were caught /in flagrante delicto/, kid. The store employee shot
the robbers as they were robbing the place, as one of the robbers held a
gun up to the body of the store owner.

They were robbers. Justice was done. Everyone knows it, including you,
but you're too full of hatred for justice and morality to admit it.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:07:29 AM6/28/11
to

He is a typically far-left snarky juvenile hates-basic-decency sort of
retard. I thought everyone knew that?

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:08:39 AM6/28/11
to

How much do you know about jamieson? How old is he, where does he live,
etc.? I don't have all that long an experience of him - just enough to
know that he's an irrational decency-hating far-left prickcheese.

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:12:06 AM6/28/11
to
>George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

What difference does it make?

> I don't have all that long an experience of him - just enough to
>know that he's an irrational decency-hating far-left prickcheese.

That's all you need to know.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:26:40 AM6/28/11
to

But does HE know that, or his brand of retardation something more "special?"

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:34:04 AM6/28/11
to

None - I just am curious. I'm fairly certain of several things:

* youth - he's a snarky young fuck
* down-market - if he works at all, it's at a low-paid, low-skill job
* poorly educated - spent time in social sciences at an academic backwater,
likely never graduated
* lives in some predictable left-wing cesspool: San Francisco,
Berkeley, Santa Monica, Santa Cruz

All of that applies in equal measure to his fellow pea in the left-wing
stupidity pod, yeaowrghuioioozs the fake Lithuanian.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:35:20 AM6/28/11
to

In terms of his brand of retardation, it's quite common - same thing
afflicts yeoarrghuooozs the fake Lithuanian. However, in terms of
severity, zepp's is special.

Steve

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:41:27 AM6/28/11
to


Doesn't matter much.. they're dead...

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 10:53:14 AM6/28/11
to
On 6/28/2011 7:41 AM, Steve wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:54:57 +0000 (UTC), "6103 Dead, 1246 since
> 1/20/09"<de...@gone.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>
>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>
>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO � A robber held a gun to a store manager just

>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>
>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took out
>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>
>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
>>> full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
>>> act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>>> possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>
>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>> criminals, right?
>
>
> Doesn't matter much.. they're dead...

No, it *does* matter, but the facts are clear: real robbers were shot
dead in the act of committing an armed robbery. This isn't a case of an
innocent bystander being shot, or the wrong guys, or any of that.

zepp, predictably, has an innate knee-jerk sympathy with criminals. He
knows that dead guys are criminal scum who got exactly what they
deserved from civil society, but because zepp hates civil society and
decency, he bleeds for them.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:01:04 AM6/28/11
to

This is why illiberal "liberals" are properly loathed: zepp's reaction
of sympathy for the robbers, his automatic suspicion of the law-abiding
people who did the right thing in defending themselves - this is typical
left-wing moral degeneracy. Decent people hate illiberal "liberals",
and this is a classic example of why.

In addition to this, people hate zepp because he posts using a shitty font.

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:04:14 AM6/28/11
to

I'll leave that to you to verify. All I know about Zepp is

(a) regular and systematic drug abuse
(b) typical screeching, Birkenstock-wearing, tree-hugging leftist
(c) inordinate fear of guns
(d) inordinate fear of citizens who own guns
(e) intellectual and reasoning capacity of a Shih Tzu

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:05:47 AM6/28/11
to

The type who thinks that "he was robbing me" is right up there with "he
was trying to escape" as rationales for gunplay, and that the possibility
should at least be investigated.

But then, I'm not a mindless gun cunt, am I?

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:06:29 AM6/28/11
to

Ah yes. Much the way our miraculous cruise missiles never hit anyone
other than "insurgents".

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:08:38 AM6/28/11
to

It is not in dispute. A robbery was in progress. The robbers were very
appropriately shot dead. End of story, for all right-thinking people -
but not for a reflexively shit-stirring asshole like you.

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:09:51 AM6/28/11
to
>George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On 6/28/2011 7:26 AM, Chris Wyse wrote:

When you gargle with bong water every day, you're bound to be
"special" like Zepp.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:09:19 AM6/28/11
to

They were robbers, and they were entirely appropriately killed in the
act of committing a crime. Justice was done.

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:11:36 AM6/28/11
to
>"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:02:01 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>>>"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in
>>>talk.politics.guns :
>>
>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>
>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager just
>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>
>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took
>>>>> out a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>
>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is
>>>> good, full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot
>>>> dead in the act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better
>>>> news possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>>
>>>And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>>criminals, right?
>>
>> Poor Zepp is too stoned to understand the part about robbing the store.
>> That's proof they were criminals.
>
>Ah yes. Much the way our miraculous cruise missiles

I know this is difficult for you, but try not to make this about Bush,
OK?

This is about you wanting "proof" that the guys holding guns robbing
the store are "criminals."

Maybe they were just rehearsing a play, huh?

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:14:45 AM6/28/11
to
>"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:00:42 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>
>> 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>
>>>>>http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager just
>>>>>before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>
>>>>>While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took
>>>>>out a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>
>>>>Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is
>>>>good, full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead
>>>>in the act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>>>>possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>>
>>>
>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>> criminals, right?
>>
>> In this case, yes.
>> The suspect had a gun and was robbing the place.
>> What kind of retard are you?
>
>The type who thinks that "he was robbing me"

Gee, I wonder what made him "think" he was a robber? Maybe holding a
gun to his stomach?

Or was he just collecting for the Blagojevich Defense Fund?

> is right up there with "he
>was trying to escape" as rationales for gunplay, and that the possibility
>should at least be investigated.

Were they not investigating it?

>But then, I'm not a mindless gun cunt, am I?

Apparently you are.

So, give us a glimpse into your world, Zepp. When someone comes into
he store you're working and holds a gun to your stomach, what do you
think they're doing?

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:17:52 AM6/28/11
to
>George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On 6/28/2011 8:05 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:

Now now. What PROOF do you have it was a robbery? Maybe they were just
coming in to ask directions?

Shouldn't the store owner have telephoned the Neighborhood Mediation
Dispute Committee, so that everyone could sit down at a table with
some nice caramel macchiatos and discuss why slave reparations would
have prevented this behavior?

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:26:49 AM6/28/11
to

I just love the slow incomprehension that spreads over the faces of
ignorant gun cunts if I say anything to suggests that life might be more
complex then some 1950s cop show would portray.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:28:23 AM6/28/11
to

Why, I even think black people aren't automatically guilty, no matter how
much gun cunts who weren't there insist they needed killing.

Steve

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:30:14 AM6/28/11
to
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:53:14 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
wrote:

>On 6/28/2011 7:41 AM, Steve wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:54:57 +0000 (UTC), "6103 Dead, 1246 since
>> 1/20/09"<de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>
>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>

>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO � A robber held a gun to a store manager just


>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>
>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took out
>>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>
>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
>>>> full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
>>>> act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>>>> possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>>
>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>> criminals, right?
>>
>>
>> Doesn't matter much.. they're dead...
>
>No, it *does* matter,

No, it really doesn't matter except that the people won't have to fund
a trial, or feed, clothe and house the assholes for a few years, or
have to deal with their next crime when they get out of jail... Oh,
yes, it probably matters to their welfare mommas/girlfriends who will
whine and cry that they really were good boys and the employee that
killed them should have simply told them to "stop it."

There will be a short, cursory investigation and the DA will sign off
because it's obviously a case of self defense...

So other than those few items, it doesn't matter. not a bit.

John Smith

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:33:52 AM6/28/11
to

I thought we were talking about gangs and flash mobs, where, pretty
much, everyone participating is guilty of one crime or another. As soon
as they violently react towards a victim, they are deserving of finding
out what is in the gun ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:36:07 AM6/28/11
to
On 6/28/2011 8:30 AM, Steve wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:53:14 -0700, George Plimpton<geo...@si.not>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2011 7:41 AM, Steve wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:54:57 +0000 (UTC), "6103 Dead, 1246 since
>>> 1/20/09"<de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO � A robber held a gun to a store manager just

>>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took out
>>>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
>>>>> full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
>>>>> act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>>>>> possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>>>
>>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>>> criminals, right?
>>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter much.. they're dead...
>>
>> No, it *does* matter,
>
> No, it really doesn't matter except that the people won't have to fund
> a trial, or feed, clothe and house the assholes for a few years, or
> have to deal with their next crime when they get out of jail... Oh,
> yes, it probably matters to their welfare mommas/girlfriends who will
> whine and cry that they really were good boys and the employee that
> killed them should have simply told them to "stop it."
>
> There will be a short, cursory investigation and the DA will sign off
> because it's obviously a case of self defense...
>

If he doesn't, it is time for a public outcry! That DA would have just
proved himself as dangerous, if not more dangerous, than the animals
stalking the streets!

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:39:38 AM6/28/11
to

It was investigated, and thanks for helping to define what kind of
retard you are, you retard.


> But then, I'm not a mindless gun cunt, am I?

You're just mindless.
After all, retards like you are forbidden to own guns.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:40:01 AM6/28/11
to

What *I* love is your reflexive sympathy for violent criminals and your
equally reflexive suspicion of law-abiding people who defend themselves.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:40:51 AM6/28/11
to

...even if they're shot dead while holding a gun to the body of a store
owner.

Right.

RD Sandman

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:56:08 AM6/28/11
to
"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in
news:iucqka$cp7$3...@dont-email.me:

Gun cunt? No. Mindless? The jury is still out on that.

--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill
and a laxative on the same night.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:58:12 AM6/28/11
to

And cops NEVER lie, especially about black people.


>
>
>> But then, I'm not a mindless gun cunt, am I?
>
> You're just mindless.
> After all, retards like you are forbidden to own guns.

What? A gun cunt suggesting the Second Amendment doesn't convey an
unlimited right to own guns?

I'm astonished!

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 11:59:17 AM6/28/11
to

They should be forbidden from owning guns, but it's usually not
necessary - they're scared to death of them and would never have one.

Scout

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:01:01 PM6/28/11
to

"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in message
news:iuctmk$cp7$1...@dont-email.me...

Gee, look, yet another bigoted and ignorant gun grabber.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:02:20 PM6/28/11
to

And the people who might have disputed it are dead.

My. How convenient.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:10:21 PM6/28/11
to

The bitch-ass punks who were shot dead were robbers - not in rational
dispute.


>>> But then, I'm not a mindless gun cunt, am I?

Mindless cunt - yes, you are.


>>
>> You're just mindless.
>> After all, retards like you are forbidden to own guns.
>
> What? A gun cunt suggesting the Second Amendment doesn't convey an
> unlimited right to own guns?

It doesn't. People who understand the second amendment know that.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:12:37 PM6/28/11
to

The people who would have had an interest in disputing it were caught in
the act by the militia and very appropriately blown away.

Steve

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:14:32 PM6/28/11
to

<snicker> That's the risk you take when you try to rob a jewelry
store by gunpoint.

>My. How convenient.

Very convenient indeed.. much less expensive outcome.

Steve

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:14:32 PM6/28/11
to

<LOL> It wasn't the cops that put the tag on these crooks' toes.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:21:34 PM6/28/11
to
On 6/28/2011 8:30 AM, Steve wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:53:14 -0700, George Plimpton<geo...@si.not>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2011 7:41 AM, Steve wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:54:57 +0000 (UTC), "6103 Dead, 1246 since
>>> 1/20/09"<de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO � A robber held a gun to a store manager just

>>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took out
>>>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
>>>>> full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
>>>>> act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>>>>> possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>>>
>>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>>> criminals, right?
>>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't matter much.. they're dead...
>>
>> No, it *does* matter,
>
> No, it really doesn't matter except that the people won't have to fund
> a trial, or feed, clothe and house the assholes for a few years, or
> have to deal with their next crime when they get out of jail... Oh,
> yes, it probably matters to their welfare mommas/girlfriends who will
> whine and cry that they really were good boys and the employee that
> killed them should have simply told them to "stop it."

It does matter. We need to know that it was a legitimate act of self
defense, and not some personal dispute that blew up into murder, and the
killer is now trying to spin it as self defense.

But we *DO* know that. We know it because there are too many witnesses
whose stories match, and we know it because it's implausible that the
store owner would haul out a gun and start shooting customers or
business associates in the middle of the day, then stick around to get
chatty with the cops.

The facts of the story are clear, and allow us to conclude with
confidence that the killings were entirely justified.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:33:04 PM6/28/11
to

What are you babbling about now, you retard?

>>>But then, I'm not a mindless gun cunt, am I?
>>
>>You're just mindless.
>> After all, retards like you are forbidden to own guns.
>
>
> What?

You read right.


> A gun cunt suggesting the Second Amendment doesn't convey an
> unlimited right to own guns?

Of course not, you retard.

> I'm astonished!

And you're retarded as well.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:35:44 PM6/28/11
to

They shouldn't have committed a crime, you retard.

> My. How convenient.

Damn straight!
Now, we the normal people, don't have to cover the costs for his
lawyers, our courts, prison upkeep, etc.
Paying the coroner was bad enough.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:37:39 PM6/28/11
to
George Plimpton wrote:

Oh, I believe it IS nessesary for retards like him not to be able to
'legal' access to them.

Steve

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 12:51:15 PM6/28/11
to
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:21:34 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
wrote:

>On 6/28/2011 8:30 AM, Steve wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:53:14 -0700, George Plimpton<geo...@si.not>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/28/2011 7:41 AM, Steve wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:54:57 +0000 (UTC), "6103 Dead, 1246 since
>>>> 1/20/09"<de...@gone.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO � A robber held a gun to a store manager just


>>>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took out
>>>>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
>>>>>> full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
>>>>>> act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>>>>>> possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>>>> criminals, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't matter much.. they're dead...
>>>
>>> No, it *does* matter,
>>
>> No, it really doesn't matter except that the people won't have to fund
>> a trial, or feed, clothe and house the assholes for a few years, or
>> have to deal with their next crime when they get out of jail... Oh,
>> yes, it probably matters to their welfare mommas/girlfriends who will
>> whine and cry that they really were good boys and the employee that
>> killed them should have simply told them to "stop it."
>
>It does matter. We need to know that it was a legitimate act of self
>defense, and not some personal dispute that blew up into murder, and the
>killer is now trying to spin it as self defense.

OK, I see your point.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:24:03 PM6/28/11
to

And of course, they were black, so OF COURSE they committed a crime. No
gawd-fearing white wing shitkickers gonna waste a valuable slave, right?

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:25:48 PM6/28/11
to

Oh, don't tell me you think all cops are honest. You can't possibly be
that stupid.

Can you?

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:30:16 PM6/28/11
to

Armed robbery is, of course, a crime. They were committing armed
robbery ==> they were committing a crime QED

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:30:52 PM6/28/11
to

The two dead thugs were committing a crime: armed robbery. They got
killed in the course of it. End of story.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:37:20 PM6/28/11
to

Skin color only matters to you, you retard.


> No
> gawd-fearing white wing shitkickers gonna waste a valuable slave, right?

Yer a retard, you retard.
I would have shot your Father, no matter what he was.
Oh...sorry, even YOU don't know who your father was.. my bad!

>
>>>My. How convenient.
>>
>>Damn straight!
>>Now, we the normal people, don't have to cover the costs for his
>>lawyers, our courts, prison upkeep, etc.
>> Paying the coroner was bad enough.

Oh my! WAS it yer Uncle/Dad they shot?

GOOD!

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:40:55 PM6/28/11
to

I never insinuated that, you retard.
I just said that the subject in THIS case is dead, and ONLY A RETARD
thinks that is bad news.

uh oh!
YOU think he should have lived to kill.

Hmmm.
I guess that means yer a fucking retard.


>
> Can you?

Can I what?

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:45:37 PM6/28/11
to
George Plimpton wrote:

Zepp is trying to say that if yer black, it's OK to be a known gang
member and hold up people, and only BUSH is against crime!
Liberals(Obama) are pro gang/black armed robbery.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:48:05 PM6/28/11
to
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:37:39 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:

Ah, the fascist mind in operation (if that's the word for it). YOU have
rights! Nobody else does.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:50:03 PM6/28/11
to

Leftists are racist. There's the proof. A left-wing idiot like fuckwit
jamieson will always zero in on race immediately. Race matters to
leftists ==> they're racist.


>> No gawd-fearing white wing shitkickers gonna waste a valuable slave,
>> right?
>
> Yer a retard, you retard.
> I would have shot your Father, no matter what he was.
> Oh...sorry, even YOU don't know who your father was.. my bad!

Ha ha ha! Good one!

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:54:16 PM6/28/11
to

zeppy - all illiberal "liberals" - is racist.

Steve

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:55:22 PM6/28/11
to


Legal aliens can own a firearm, but probably not Jamieson.. <LOL> you
see... you still have to pass the background check.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 5:55:27 PM6/28/11
to

What is "fascist" (empty left-wing swear word) about wanting to keep
firearms out of the hands of dangerously unstable retards like you?

RD Sandman

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:23:09 PM6/28/11
to
"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in
news:iudgpj$t61$1...@dont-email.me:

Why is it that you morons are so quick with the race card? Transference?


--
Sleep well tonight,

RD (The Sandman)

Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill
and a laxative on the same night.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:29:32 PM6/28/11
to

Of course -WE- have protected rights.

Retards like YOU do not, because they were LEGALY taken away from you,
when you fucked up, you retard!

This is the AMERICAN WAY, you socialist liberal retard

WE THE PEOPLE took some of your rights away, because YOU weren't to be
trusted with them, you drunken, drugged out, glue snorting, bong water
drinking, retarded felon!

Yer on the books!
You couldn't board a Cessna at a local air strip without having yer
"Depends" taken off and stuffed in yer yap.


George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:29:21 PM6/28/11
to
On 6/28/2011 3:23 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> "6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09"<de...@gone.com> wrote in
> news:iudgpj$t61$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:35:44 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>
>>> 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:08:38 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/28/2011 8:05 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:00:42 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager

No - racism. Leftists = racists. Everyone knows this.

Peter Franks

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:30:30 PM6/28/11
to
On 6/28/2011 6:54 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>
>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>
>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>
>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager just

>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>
>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took out
>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>
>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
>> full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
>> act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>> possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>
> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
> criminals, right?

No.

The fact that they walked in, pointed a gun at someone's head serves as
evidence that they were criminals.

Do you see evidence to the contrary?

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:30:51 PM6/28/11
to

I believe he is a convicted felon, and as such, is probably barred from
gun possession.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:32:26 PM6/28/11
to

He thinks he does: their race. To zeppy jamieson, when a white man
walks into a store and pulls a jewelry store and pulls a gun on the
owner, that's called "robbery"; when a black man does it, it's called
"reparations".

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:39:24 PM6/28/11
to

Do you see any evidence at all, aside from the fact that these guys are
dead, and the ones that shot them have a self-serving story?

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:40:22 PM6/28/11
to

I haven't had any rights taken away from me, bubbles. In fact, I
probably have more rights than you do.

>
> This is the AMERICAN WAY, you socialist liberal retard

Sorry to hear that. America used to be a pretty good country.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:54:27 PM6/28/11
to

Translation: you have no reason to doubt the stories of the owner and
his employees and family members, so you're dealing the race card from
the bottom of the deck, as usual.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 6:57:45 PM6/28/11
to

Yes, you have, felon. As a convicted felon, you have lost the right to
vote, and you have lost the right to keep firearms.

Peter Franks

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:16:58 PM6/28/11
to

Guilty until proven innocent?

But help me understand, what does whitey have to gain by shooting a
couple of black customers?

Why did the two that fled flee and later dump the car?

I'm just trying to see where you are coming from.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:21:56 PM6/28/11
to

He doesn't have a coherent story. All he has is his vile racism.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:28:14 PM6/28/11
to

I'm not the one proclaiming anyone's guilt. You'll have to ask the gun
cunts about that one.


>
> But help me understand, what does whitey have to gain by shooting a
> couple of black customers?

Sport? Control? Fear?

>
> Why did the two that fled flee and later dump the car?
>

They were being shot at, you moron.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:31:39 PM6/28/11
to

Yes, you are: you're proclaiming the guilt of the citizens who shot the
robbers in self defense.


>> But help me understand, what does whitey have to gain by shooting a
>> couple of black customers?
>
> Sport? Control? Fear?

No evidence, of course - nothing but your filthy racism.


>> Why did the two that fled flee and later dump the car?
>>
> They were being shot at,

No, they weren't.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:38:44 PM6/28/11
to
zeppy jamieson comically (he thinks he's serious - now that's funny!) is
trying to maintain that the black robbers who were shot dead in a
botched jewelry store holdup were killed only because they're black.
zeppy, as usual - as every racist leftist does - is dealing the race
card from the bottom of the deck.

The left is thoroughly, irremediably racist. They imagine they see race
in everything, with not a shred of evidence.

Peter Franks

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:41:49 PM6/28/11
to

Nor I.

> You'll have to ask the gun
> cunts about that one.
>>
>> But help me understand, what does whitey have to gain by shooting a
>> couple of black customers?
>
> Sport? Control? Fear?

None of the above?

So, basically what you are saying is that you concocted up your own
story that runs contrary to all accounts, and are positing that as a the
likely scenario?

I'm going w/ the eyewitness accounts unless you can provide some
evidence of why I shouldn't.

>> Why did the two that fled flee and later dump the car?
>>
> They were being shot at, you moron.

Then they would have called the cops. That apparently didn't happen either.

Sorry, but the evidence is that the 4 were acting as criminals. Given
their dangerous line of work, some finally met up with consequence.

Let me ask this: do you think that the 4 were NOT acting criminally,
contrary to the evidence on hand? If you don't believe the evidence,
what evidence do you have that they shop owners are lying? Just your
supposition? If so, why do you presume that the shop owners are acting
criminally?

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:45:32 PM6/28/11
to

He doesn't have any evidence at all; he has only his racism. The dead
robbers were black; he doesn't know the race of the store owner and his
associates, but he is assuming they are white. Racism - that's the
explanation for his assumption.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:50:16 PM6/28/11
to


Why is it ONLY YOU, a fucking retard, that supports the known gang member?
Could it be, that YOU'RE A RETARD?

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 7:56:19 PM6/28/11
to

Impossible.
You're a retarded druggy.
You GAVE up your rights several arrests ago.

MY record is squeaky clean!

>
>>This is the AMERICAN WAY, you socialist liberal retard
>
>
> Sorry to hear that. America used to be a pretty good country.

Still is, you retard.

That's why WE keep you at bay, and unable to legaly own guns, far from
schools and places where children play, and on a registery.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:01:45 PM6/28/11
to
George Plimpton wrote:

Gang member is what leaped out to me.
Well, that and the fact that the retard held a gun to his victims
belly while ROBBING the place.
I don't care what color the retards are... just SHOOT THEM!


Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:02:49 PM6/28/11
to
George Plimpton wrote:

And public libraries.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:04:51 PM6/28/11
to
George Plimpton wrote:


Ahem... He MIGHT still be able to vote in Chicago...twice!

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:19:22 PM6/28/11
to
>"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:07:29 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:


>
>> On 6/28/2011 7:00 AM, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>> 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager just
>>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took
>>>>>> out a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is
>>>>> good, full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot
>>>>> dead in the act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better
>>>>> news possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>>> criminals, right?
>>>
>>> In this case, yes.
>>> The suspect had a gun and was robbing the place. What kind of retard
>>> are you?
>>

>> He is a typically far-left snarky juvenile hates-basic-decency sort of
>> retard. I thought everyone knew that?
>
>I just love the slow incomprehension that spreads over the faces of
>ignorant gun cunts if I say anything to suggests that life might be more
>complex then some 1950s cop show would portray.


I just love the stoned look Zepp gets when someone suggests that
someone sticking a gun in your stomach just MIGHT be a robbery.

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:19:55 PM6/28/11
to
>"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:08:38 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>> On 6/28/2011 8:05 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:


>>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:00:42 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>>
>>>> 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager just
>>>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took
>>>>>>> out a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is
>>>>>> good, full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot
>>>>>> dead in the act of committing their crimes. There is almost no
>>>>>> better news possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty
>>>>>> good, though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>>>> criminals, right?
>>>>
>>>> In this case, yes.
>>>> The suspect had a gun and was robbing the place.
>>>> What kind of retard are you?
>>>

>>> The type who thinks that "he was robbing me" is right up there with "he
>>> was trying to escape" as rationales for gunplay, and that the
>>> possibility should at least be investigated.
>>

>> It is not in dispute. A robbery was in progress. The robbers were very
>> appropriately shot dead. End of story, for all right-thinking people -
>> but not for a reflexively shit-stirring asshole like you.
>
>And the people who might have disputed it are dead.


And that's a good thing.

Chris Wyse

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:20:29 PM6/28/11
to
RD Sandman wrote:

> "6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in
> news:iudgpj$t61$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>
>>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:35:44 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>
>>
>>>6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:08:38 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On 6/28/2011 8:05 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:00:42 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>>>>>>employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>>>>>>lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager


I never said black OR white.
I just said retards, like Zepp.'

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:41:10 PM6/28/11
to
>George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>On 6/28/2011 8:28 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:


>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:26:40 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>
>>> George Plimpton wrote:

>>>> On 6/28/2011 7:00 AM, Chris Wyse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager just


>>>>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is
>>>>>>> good, full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot
>>>>>>> dead in the act of committing their crimes. There is almost no
>>>>>>> better news possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good,
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>>>>>> criminals, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, yes.
>>>>> The suspect had a gun and was robbing the place. What kind of retard
>>>>> are you?
>>>>
>>>>

>>>> He is a typically far-left snarky juvenile hates-basic-decency sort of
>>>> retard. I thought everyone knew that?
>>>

>>> But does HE know that, or his brand of retardation something more
>>> "special?"
>>
>> Why, I even think black people aren't automatically guilty,
>
>...even if they're shot dead while holding a gun to the body of a store
>owner.
>
>Right.

Zepp says that doesn't mean they were guilty.

This is how it works in ZeppWorld.....

You're working for a lot less that you should be making at a jewelry
store, owned by some wealthy white man who is taking advantage of your
economic situation, and using his profits to wreck the economy for the
common man. Oh, and he also eats a lot of red meat. And he doesn't
recycle.

A person comes in and says "This is a robbery!" Then he sticks a gun
in your ribs and tells you he's going to kill you, take your wallet,
drive to your house, and rape your family.

You, insensitive bastard that you are, have probably already shot this
poor man dead.

But Zepp would not automatically assume that he's being robbed. Zepp
would assume that you shot the man just because he was black, or just
because he came into the store when you wanted to take a smoke break,
or just because you were jealous of his fine, fine automobile.

When Zepp DID realize he was being robbed, he would submit meekly as
he has been taught, and give the robber everything he wanted,
including his own life if necessary. Because Zepp knows that the world
is over-populated anyway, and he feels guilty about putting that
coffee can in with the recycled cans when he KNEW the sides were
cardboard. Plus- as usual- Zepp is stoned out of his fucking mind.

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 8:46:30 PM6/28/11
to
>"6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09" <de...@gone.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :


>And of course, they were black, so OF COURSE they committed a crime. No
>gawd-fearing white wing shitkickers gonna waste a valuable slave, right?

Zepp thinks they operated the store solely as a trap to lure Negroes
in to kill them.

What OTHER reason could one possibly have to kill someone, other than
the fact that they're black?

That's the only reason that can occur to Zepp.

Zepp's racism reminds me of another progressive that used to hang
around here, who has probably died from clogged arteries.....

_______
>>Plus, if you mention a 400-pound welfare broodmare, Lee automatically
>>assumes you mean a BLACK 400-pound welfare broodmare!

"Sure I do."
- Lee Harrison
Message-ID: <Xns9389A4C63D79Dl...@130.133.1.4>

Tankfixer

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:10:58 PM6/28/11
to
In article <iucmfh$omp$9...@dont-email.me>, - 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09
de...@gone.com spouted !

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>
> > [quoted text muted]

> >
> > Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
> > full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
> > act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
> > possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>
> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
> criminals, right?
>
>

They were in the process of robbing the store...
You figure it out

Tankfixer

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:13:42 PM6/28/11
to
In article <iucrun$cp7$1...@dont-email.me>, - 6103 Dead, 1246 since
1/20/09 de...@gone.com spouted !
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:26:40 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>
> > George Plimpton wrote:
> >> On 6/28/2011 7:00 AM, Chris Wyse wrote:
> >>
> >>> 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
> >>>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
> >>>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO ? A robber held a gun to a store manager just

> >>>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took
> >>>>>> out
> >>>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is
> >>>>> good, full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot
> >>>>> dead in the act of committing their crimes. There is almost no
> >>>>> better news possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good,
> >>>>> though.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
> >>>> criminals, right?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In this case, yes.
> >>> The suspect had a gun and was robbing the place. What kind of retard
> >>> are you?
> >>
> >>
> >> He is a typically far-left snarky juvenile hates-basic-decency sort of
> >> retard. I thought everyone knew that?
> >
> > But does HE know that, or his brand of retardation something more
> > "special?"
>
> Why, I even think black people aren't automatically guilty, no matter how
> much gun cunts who weren't there insist they needed killing.

The one induhvidual identified by race is called a suspect.
The ones killed are not identified as black, white, green or mauve.

Leaping to conclusions is harmful, just look where it got the two
robbers ...

Tankfixer

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:15:23 PM6/28/11
to
In article <iudgpj$t61$1...@dont-email.me>, - 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09
de...@gone.com spouted !

>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:35:44 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
>
> > 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:08:38 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On 6/28/2011 8:05 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:

> >>>
> >>>>On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:00:42 -0400, Chris Wyse wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
> >>>>>>>>employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
> >>>>>>>>lnh0f9avery.jpg
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO ? A robber held a gun to a store manager just
> >>>>>>>>before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee
> >>>>>>>>took out a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two.
> >>>>>>>>[snip]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is
> >>>>>>>good, full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot
> >>>>>>>dead in the act of committing their crimes. There is almost no
> >>>>>>>better news possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty
> >>>>>>>good, though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
> >>>>>>criminals, right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>In this case, yes.
> >>>>>The suspect had a gun and was robbing the place.
> >>>>> What kind of retard are you?
> >>>>
> >>>>The type who thinks that "he was robbing me" is right up there with
> >>>>"he was trying to escape" as rationales for gunplay, and that the
> >>>>possibility should at least be investigated.
> >>>
> >>>It is not in dispute. A robbery was in progress. The robbers were
> >>>very appropriately shot dead. End of story, for all right-thinking
> >>>people - but not for a reflexively shit-stirring asshole like you.
> >>
> >>
> >> And the people who might have disputed it are dead.
> >
> > They shouldn't have committed a crime, you retard.
>
> And of course, they were black, so OF COURSE they committed a crime.

The story does not say if the two dead robbers were black, does it ?

Klaus Schadenfreude

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:17:44 PM6/28/11
to
>Tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.coom> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

Isn't it funny how Zepp assumes they were killed because they were
black?

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:18:54 PM6/28/11
to

Exactly.

George Plimpton

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:23:40 PM6/28/11
to

No, that's incorrect. Both dead robbers are shown in photos, and
they're black:
http://sanjuancapistrano.patch.com/articles/robber-held-jeweler-at-gunpoint-when-shooting-broke-out


It doesn't matter. They were robbing the joint - they were fair game.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:44:20 PM6/28/11
to

Could it be you're a racist gun cunt?

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:46:10 PM6/28/11
to

I imagine it is. You probably are 15 years old, and spend all your time
in your parents' basement, beating off to porn.

As for me, it seems that I have never been charged with any crimes.

Chrissy Degeer

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:45:43 PM6/28/11
to

The racist, of course, is zeppy. Like all contemporary leftists, he
sees race as the defining characteristic, always.

John Smith

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:49:22 PM6/28/11
to
On 6/28/2011 3:30 PM, Peter Franks wrote:
> On 6/28/2011 6:54 AM, 6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09 wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:25:27 -0700, 678.714.5764 wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/27/2011 11:12 PM, Obama's America wrote:
>>>> http://www.ocregister.com/news/store-306068-shooting-
>>>> employees.html?nstrack=sid:1843028|met:102|cat:227|order:1
>>>>
>>>> http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/article/lnh0l7-
>>>> lnh0f9avery.jpg
>>>>
>>>> SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO – A robber held a gun to a store manager just
>>>> before shooting broke out Friday morning, officials said.
>>>>
>>>> While the man held a gun to the manager's stomach, an employee took out
>>>> a handgun and fired on the three suspects, killing two. [snip]
>>>
>>> Robbers were shot dead. That's all I need to know - the result is good,
>>> full stop. I *love* hearing when violent criminals are shot dead in the
>>> act of committing their crimes. There is almost no better news
>>> possible. OBL being killed in that raid was pretty good, though.
>>
>> And of course the fact that someone shot them is PROOF they were
>> criminals, right?
>
> No.
>
> The fact that they walked in, pointed a gun at someone's head serves as
> evidence that they were criminals.
>
> Do you see evidence to the contrary?

If someone threatening you with a gun is not justification to fear
"great bodily harm or death", you are already dead, you just haven't
quit breathing yet ...

Regards,
JS


--
Regards,
JS

DURING TIMES OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH BECOMES A
REVOLUTIONARY ACT.- George Orwell

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:47:30 PM6/28/11
to

You saw the word "black" and your knee jerked.

Just like it was supposed to.

Now let the nice little racists lead you around by the nose, that's a
good little boy...

Chrissy Degeer

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:49:28 PM6/28/11
to
> I saw the word "black" and my knee jerked.

Yes, exactly: your racism ran away with you, as always.

6103 Dead, 1246 since 1/20/09

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:50:58 PM6/28/11
to

I assume nothing, Klod. I just note that some of your toy gun cunt
racists saw the word "black" in the subject header and their knees jerked.

John Smith

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:58:23 PM6/28/11
to

I think he is making the points:

1) Negros can't commit crimes.

2) Whenever a negro is shot it is racism.

Frankly, all of my experience is 180 degrees opposed to his claims. Why
hasn't this nut been plonked by everyone, yet? I am rectifying that
problem, for myself, now ... plonk ...

Steve

unread,
Jun 28, 2011, 9:57:05 PM6/28/11
to


"I was the draft dodger."
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson Sep 11, 12:08 pm
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/efabf601a6b8837c?hl=en&


--
Leftists do not understand the simple notion that one
person's rights end where another's begin. Being
chronically immature, they tend to want to live by
the same rules that their mommies laid down to them
when they were preschool age, e.g... "you should share
your toys, you should play with little Billie even
if he still wets his pants, it's not nice to make
little Johnny cry."

It is loading more messages.
0 new messages