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Hisler

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Oct 20, 2011, 6:27:40 PM10/20/11
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She was Fired!!! She joins Juan Williams, Mel Gibson, Jesse Jackson,
Charlie Sheen . . . and the beat goes on.




http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/10/18/breaking-la-unified-school-district-fires-teacher-who-made-anti-semitic-remarks-at-occupy-demonstration/




DCI

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Oct 20, 2011, 11:32:09 PM10/20/11
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On Oct 20, 3:27 pm, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
> She was Fired!!!  She joins Juan Williams, Mel Gibson, Jesse Jackson,
> Charlie Sheen . . . and the beat goes on.
>
> http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/10/18/breaking-la-unified-schoo...

It's no wonder why the LASUD is in terrible, chronically so, shape
when the administration has to silence speech which runs contrary to
the district policy, a policy which by the way has no clarity or
purpose other than selective enforcement.

Although, I may disagree with the aim and content of her comment, I'll
raise hell to protect her right to speak. her mind.

Apparently to be a qualified at-large substitute teacher for one of
the biggest screwed up school district in the nation, she first has to
kiss ass and wear a Happy Face.

DCI

PS: my letter is en route!

Hisler

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Oct 21, 2011, 12:37:28 AM10/21/11
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Well said. Thank you for your feedback.

Haym Solomon

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Oct 21, 2011, 8:31:18 AM10/21/11
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A person like that has no business being a teacher, and example, to our
children. It is not like she was some clerk in the central office. She
stood in front of the class every day. I'm glad they fired the bitch.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 21, 2011, 8:34:30 AM10/21/11
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DCI,

I am afraid you don't understand the concept of free speech.

If you disagree, can you please elaborate your argument for the
readers?

-Ramon

Mr.Sandman

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Oct 21, 2011, 9:47:50 AM10/21/11
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On 10/21/2011 8:31 AM, Haym Solomon wrote:

> A person like that has no business being a teacher, and example, to our
> children. It is not like she was some clerk in the central office. She
> stood in front of the class every day. I'm glad they fired the bitch.

I agree with you on this. Children should not be inculcated with
mindless prejudice. Although this woman is a member of a minority, she
sounds very much like someone who would vote Republican. She could also
be anti-immigrant. Note well that she would like Zionist Jews kicked out
of the country.
One more reason to think that right-wingers are all idiots.
As Bill Maher said recently, not all conservatives are racists, but all
racists are conservatives. And I'm almost sure that such a woman will
vote Republican for lack of a better choice.

Grendel

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Oct 21, 2011, 10:14:20 AM10/21/11
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On Oct 21, 8:47 am, "Mr.Sandman" <somewh...@overtherainbow.com> wrote:
> On 10/21/2011 8:31 AM, Haym Solomon wrote:
>
> > A person like that has no business being a teacher, and example, to our
> > children. It is not like she was some clerk in the central office. She
> > stood in front of the class every day. I'm glad they fired the bitch.
>
> I agree with you on this. Children should not be inculcated with
> mindless prejudice. Although this woman is a member of a minority, she
> sounds very much like someone who would vote Republican.

Okay, so you think a Black, Teacher Union member who rants about
'Zionist Jews' would likely vote Republican?

> She could also be anti-immigrant.

Which, by 'anti-immigrant' you actually mean 'anti-illegal criminal
imigrants'. There's no evidence in the article one way or the other.

> Note well that she would like Zionist Jews kicked out
> of the country.
> One more reason to think that right-wingers are all idiots.

No evidence in the article she is either left or right-wing. Looking
at her demographic and occupation and attitude, she probably swings to
the left based on percentages.

> As Bill Maher said recently, not all conservatives are racists, but all
> racists are conservatives.

And, Bill Maher is an idiot, and also incorrect. Racists exist in all
political bents, all races, all sexes, basically can be found
everywhere. (You DO realize the last known Ku Klux Klan memeber in
Congress was a Democrat, right?)

> And I'm almost sure that such a woman will
> vote Republican for lack of a better choice.

And we're more than sure that you have no idea what you're talking
about.

Face it, she is the perfect sample of a Liberal Zombie, and you're
trying to portray her in a different light in order to minimize the
harm her public comments do to your side.

Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"I'm not cynical, just experienced."

Haym Solomon

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Oct 21, 2011, 10:40:19 AM10/21/11
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About the only thing of value that Sandman wrote was his second
sentence. Beyond that he made totally unwarranted projections. Of
course, while criticizing Sandman about the projections, Grendel did the
same thing.

pete10016

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Oct 21, 2011, 10:49:14 AM10/21/11
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On 10/21/2011 10:14 AM, Grendel wrote:
Don't forget, George Wallace ran for President as a racist.

Grendel

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:00:06 AM10/21/11
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> Don't forget, George Wallace ran for President as a racist.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

George Wallace didn't run for President as a racist, George Wallace
WAS a racist, and a Democrat.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:01:23 AM10/21/11
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On Oct 21, 9:14 am, Grendel <wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Racists exist in all political bents, all races, all sexes,
> basically can be found everywhere.  (You DO realize the last known
> Ku Klux Klan memeber in Congress was a Democrat, right?)

"Byrd was not always a champion of liberal causes. He had come of age
as a member of the Ku Klux Klan and cast a "no" vote on the landmark
Civil Rights Act of 1964 that prohibited discrimination against
African Americans and others. He later renounced his actions in both
cases and called his membership in the KKK "the worst mistake of my
life."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/29/local/la-me-byrd-20100628

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All expressions of hate towards whole classes of people (not of
ideas!) come from the right. Every single one of them (give or take a
handful).

IOW: The left hates ideas, the right, people.

-Ramon

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:08:07 AM10/21/11
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On Oct 21, 9:14 am, Grendel <wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> And, Bill Maher is an idiot

There are two reason for righties to despise Bill Maher:

(1) They do not get his humor.

(2) They get it.

-Ramon


ps: If he is an idiot, how come you agree with him on this one?:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/05/05/ac.bill.maher.intv.cnn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ipp-l_32M8

George Plimpton

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:09:36 AM10/21/11
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On 10/21/2011 6:47 AM, Mr.Sandman wrote:
> On 10/21/2011 8:31 AM, Haym Solomon wrote:
>
>> A person like that has no business being a teacher, and example, to our
>> children. It is not like she was some clerk in the central office. She
>> stood in front of the class every day. I'm glad they fired the bitch.
>
> I agree with you on this. Children should not be inculcated with
> mindless prejudice.

"Multi-culturalism" is the most egregious example of such mindless
prejudice.

Gunner Asch

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:16:16 AM10/21/11
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He understands it perfectly well. You and the other enforcers of PC
orthodoxy, including that greasy kike Hymie Solomon, are the ones who
don't understand it.

Mr. Smartypants

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:17:36 AM10/21/11
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On 10/21/2011 8:01 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Oct 21, 9:14 am, Grendel<wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > Racists exist in all political bents, all races, all sexes,
> > basically can be found everywhere. (You DO realize the last known
> > Ku Klux Klan memeber in Congress was a Democrat, right?)
>
> "Byrd was not always a champion of liberal causes. He had come of age
> as a member of the Ku Klux Klan and cast a "no" vote on the landmark
> Civil Rights Act of 1964

Byrd's "renunciation" of his KKK membership and advocacy was purely a
matter of political expediency. Byrd hated niggers right to the end.

George Plimpton

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:21:12 AM10/21/11
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On 10/21/2011 8:08 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Oct 21, 9:14 am, Grendel<wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > And, Bill Maher is an idiot
>
> There are two reason for righties to despise Bill Maher:

1. He isn't funny.

2. He's a left-wing extremist bigot.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:50:17 AM10/21/11
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Thanks for providing evidence (one more time!) that all hate comes
from the right.

The general rule is: The left hates ideas (which is fine), the right,
people.

-Ramon

Orval Fairbairn

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Oct 21, 2011, 12:25:28 PM10/21/11
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In article
<c5db8be7-c32e-4efe...@h23g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
LA School District -- home of the $600 million high school!

Haym Solomon

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Oct 21, 2011, 1:02:26 PM10/21/11
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Yet another asshole to Plonk!

Mr. Smartypants

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Oct 21, 2011, 1:28:07 PM10/21/11
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First, that's false - the left hate the most; orders of magnitude more
than the right.

Second, are you saying Byrd was a right-winger? He hated niggers.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 21, 2011, 1:43:30 PM10/21/11
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The left hates ideas (which is fine). The right, people.

You are showing your hatred toward Black folks.

-Ramon

Mr. Smartypants

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Oct 21, 2011, 2:14:56 PM10/21/11
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You have it exactly backward.


> You are showing your hatred toward Black folks.

Nope - I'm talking about Byrd's hatred of blacks (lower case 'b', you
stupid fuck.)

Red Cloud

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Oct 21, 2011, 2:45:00 PM10/21/11
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What can a black man can do without White race?

Is there a black nation made any progress? Go check Africa.

Barak Obama is addicted South Korean progress and latest high-tech
industry. He often asked how the hell South Korean once poor as Africa
made incredible progress compare to Kenya.

Red Cloud

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Oct 21, 2011, 3:59:35 PM10/21/11
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Fruitcake! Before you talk about free speech, get to know your
Hispanic goon squads are trying to kill KFI John & Ken free speech.


http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/DontCensorJohnandKen.html?article=9265609

The National Hispanic Media Coalition has embarked on a campaign to
censor John and Ken that is based on misleading and false statements.
We want to set the record straight:

--John and Ken are being attacked by the NHMC because of their
outspoken opposition to the California Dream Act. Not only is this an
issue over which reasonable people disagree, it is also one that
sparks strong feelings. Taking a stand is their job – and their right
in a democracy like ours. Their opposition to the Dream Act is not
"hate speech," it is protected speech.

--Jorge-Mario Cabrera’s cell number that was broadcast is not a
private number – it is a business number regularly used by Mr. Cabrera
on press releases and other materials sent to the media, including to
KFI’s news room.

--In fact, the press release that falsely accuses John and Ken of
violating Mr. Cabrera's "privacy rights" includes this same cell phone
number, the same one John and Ken read on the air, as the contact
number.

--It is false that John and Ken have "incited violence and threats
against" Mr. Cabrera.

--CHIRLA claims its staff was "terrorized" and that it "received over
430 abusive and threatening calls." We are unaware if a police report
was filed, or if anything was done about these threats other than to
use them as a publicity tactic.

--John and Ken have repeatedly and publicly condemned listener calls
that are abusive or threatening.

--NHMC’s Alex Nogales, who is driving the boycott of KFI, has
consistently misstated the facts. He says KFI refuses to meet with
his ORGANIZATION. False. In fact, KFI met with a representative of
NHMC and other leaders of the Latino community on Thursday October
13th. Instead of working towards a constructive resolution, like
others in the community, he has made one single non-negotiable demand
– that John and Ken be fired.

--We do agree with NHMC in one area. The rhetoric surrounding this
issue has become too heated, and has gone too far. The language used
by some callers to Mr. Cabrera is unacceptable and wrong, and John and
Ken regret that. Furthermore, both KFI and John and Ken apologize to
Mr. Cabrera for the ugly calls he received. John and Ken aired their
apology on Monday October 17th, a copy of which is available at
http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/DontCensorJohnandKen.html.

We want to thank the Latin Business Association, the Latino Coalition,
and the Latino Institute for Corporate Inclusion for their efforts to
encourage a more constructive dialogue. We will continue to engage
with them and others in the Latino community.

Red Cloud

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Oct 21, 2011, 4:10:30 PM10/21/11
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A entertainer constantly engaging in political issue whether left or
right
ain't no funny. It is bit disgusting. Using politic as tool for
entertainment is sick.
No wonder I can't get Bill Maher's gig. Letterman and Johnny
Carson have stayed away from political issue.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 21, 2011, 5:06:17 PM10/21/11
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Not really. First of all, we can do little about individual hate,
cannot read minds, don't have hate-o-meters, cannot legislate
tolerance. Some folks hate the Yankees, others hate the Red Sox. I
hate Hugo Chavez and MS Vista. Some hate boxers, others hate
jockeys.Individual hate is a fact of life.

THEREFORE, our only concern should be INSTITUTIONAL hate.

There are about 1,000 hate groups in the country. About 90% are KKK,
Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Anti-Gays: You clearly win on the hate
department (since you used the term "niggger").

Meanwhile, there is ONE hate group composed of Hispanic: You beat me
900 to 1, in the hate department.

-Ramon

Mr. Smartypants

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Oct 21, 2011, 5:32:00 PM10/21/11
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On 10/21/2011 2:06 PM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Oct 21, 1:14 pm, "Mr. Smartypants"<b...@canada.con> wrote:
>> On 10/21/2011 10:43 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 21, 12:28 pm, "Mr. Smartypants"<b...@canada.con> wrote:
>>>> On 10/21/2011 8:50 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Oct 21, 10:17 am, "Mr. Smartypants"<b...@canada.con> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/21/2011 8:01 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 9:14 am, Grendel<wstho...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> > Racists exist in all political bents, all races, all sexes,
>>>>>>> > basically can be found everywhere. (You DO realize the last known
>>>>>>> > Ku Klux Klan memeber in Congress was a Democrat, right?)
>>
>>>>>>> "Byrd was not always a champion of liberal causes. He had come of age
>>>>>>> as a member of the Ku Klux Klan and cast a "no" vote on the landmark
>>>>>>> Civil Rights Act of 1964
>>
>>>>>> Byrd's "renunciation" of his KKK membership and advocacy was purely a
>>>>>> matter of political expediency.
>>
>>>>> > Byrd hated niggers right to the end.
>>
>>>>> Thanks for providing evidence (one more time!) that all hate comes
>>>>> from the right.
>>
>>> > First, that's false - the left hate the most;
>>> > orders of magnitude more than the right.
>>
>
> >> The left hates ideas (which is fine). The right, people.
> >
>
> > You have it exactly backward.
>
> Not really.

Yes, really. It is the left that is principally predicated on hatred.


> THEREFORE, our only concern should be INSTITUTIONAL hate.
>
> There are about 1,000 hate groups in the country. About 90% are KKK,
> Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, Anti-Gays:

Once again, as always with you, a fabricated number.

You omitted La Raza, MEChA, the Black Panthers, Occupy Wall Street,
Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League, PETA, and all
the other left-wing hate groups from your list. Why is that?

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 21, 2011, 5:52:29 PM10/21/11
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Roughly speaking, it is 1,000:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

You know that hate is on your side. You know you hate. The least you
can do is own to it. Be a man.

I will only defend NCLR. The rest can defend themselves.

-Ramon

George Plimpton

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Oct 21, 2011, 6:23:10 PM10/21/11
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Ha ha ha ha ha! SPLC is one of the very left-wing hate groups you
omitted!!! They have *zero* credibility.

Red Cloud

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Oct 22, 2011, 12:42:36 AM10/22/11
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This topic has been exchanged before. We have to same line of rebut
over and over again. The Hispanic invader's view is very simple:
If you hate immigrant or Hispanic, you are no different from Nazi or
KKK. Anti-immigrant (since most Hispanic activist refuses to spell
"illegal" immigrant) group are no difference of expression hatred as
KKK or White Supremacist does. Average American anti-illegal immigrant
categorized as KKK or White Supremacist. That's norm for pro-
illegal Hispanic supporter.

Red Cloud

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Oct 22, 2011, 1:08:07 AM10/22/11
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On Oct 21, 9:25 am, Orval Fairbairn <orfairba...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c5db8be7-c32e-4efe-b594-d290b31de...@h23g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
LAUSD is one of worse school district in CA by many underachieved
contribution by Hispanic students. CA was once the nation best state
of fostering bright mind. Thanks to the Hispanics making up the
majority of CA K-12 CA has fell
into bottom of the bracket. CA K-12 education became a joke.

DCI

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Oct 22, 2011, 2:28:46 PM10/22/11
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On Oct 21, 5:34 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> On Oct 20, 10:32 pm, DCI <50b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 20, 3:27 pm, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
>
> > > She was Fired!!!  She joins Juan Williams, Mel Gibson, Jesse Jackson,
> > > Charlie Sheen . . . and the beat goes on.
>
> > >http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/10/18/breaking-la-unified-schoo...
>
> > It's no wonder why the LASUD is in terrible, chronically so, shape
> > when the administration has to silence speech which runs contrary to
> > the district policy, a policy which by the way has no clarity or
> > purpose other than selective enforcement.
>
> > Although, I may disagree with the aim and content of her comment, I'll
> > raise hell to protect her right to speak. her mind.
>
> > Apparently to be a qualified at-large substitute teacher for one of
> > the biggest screwed up school district in the nation, she first has to
> > kiss ass and wear a Happy Face.
>
> > DCI
>
> > PS: my letter is en route!
>
> DCI,
>
> I am afraid you don't understand the concept of free speech.
>
> If you disagree, can you please elaborate your argument for the
> readers?
>
> -Ramon

Ramon, Ramon, Ramon, so tell me, what is free speech? And you're free
to say it. And I might disagree with you. I'll defend, however, your
right to be wrong.

DCI

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 22, 2011, 2:47:59 PM10/22/11
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Let me put this way: if you want to exercise your freedom of speech,
you better buy a newspaper or similar media. In the case of Internet,
the freedom of speech belongs to Google and the OWNERS of the
computers (and printing presses).

Sure, you have a right to say anything: in your home and on the
streets, that is.

If I have a newspaper/radio/TV, you may be entitled to yell on the
Grand Canyon or the streets of NYC, but I am in no obligation to give
you the use of MY media.

Similarly with employees of companies. Let's say the black lady worked
for you and was carrying an ID on her uniform that read "DCI
Enterprises".

You can fire her ass, and so can the school district from which she
was properly fired.

Additionally, is has been mentioned that teachers are hold to higher
standards, and she expressed hate speech.

-Ramon

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 22, 2011, 3:09:45 PM10/22/11
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Here's the classical example: Try to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater
and see what happens...

Or try to sing along the LA Symphony Orchestra: you will promptly find
yourself singing alone, on the street on your bottom.

-Ramon

Red Cloud

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Oct 22, 2011, 3:57:27 PM10/22/11
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Not many "documented" Americans would singing with you.
Not only that they are not gonna yell "Arizona is anti-immigrant
state"
with you. You are alone in theaters shouting "Arizona is anti-
Hispanic
state" and nobody listen you. But I would get up and I would yell at
you "Get out it here you dumb Wetback jackass. Get out of my theater!
Go home! Stupid Mexican!"

The manager comes and drags you out . You still shout "Arizona is
White racist state!" I would say to myself "What a dumb idiot. He
thinks damn Hispanic own the whole place."






George Plimpton

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Oct 22, 2011, 4:49:15 PM10/22/11
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In addition to SPLC being a hate group, you also omitted the Nation of
Islam. Do you want to tell us how NOI is a right-wing group, Raymond?

Hatred: a franchise of the left.

Steve from Colorado

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Oct 22, 2011, 5:17:07 PM10/22/11
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But what if what the teacher said is true?

>
> -Ramon

skm...@msn.com

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Oct 22, 2011, 9:42:41 PM10/22/11
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> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Wrong! There is the NCLR, Mecha, Lulac, Azlantistas, Mexica Movement
and several other so-called Hispanic advocacy groups that are hate
groups.

skm...@msn.com

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Oct 22, 2011, 9:47:52 PM10/22/11
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What BS! I consider myself a right wing conservative and I don't
hate anyone based on their race/ethnicity. I despise illegal acts
does that make me a hater?

DCI

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Oct 23, 2011, 4:14:54 AM10/23/11
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On Oct 21, 8:21 am, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
Bill Maher has picked up the intonations of an intellectual and the
word rhythm game and people think he's both smart and funny. Once a
person actually listen to his rap, he/she will find they've been had
by a clown.

DCI.

DCI

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Oct 23, 2011, 4:19:04 AM10/23/11
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On Oct 21, 8:50 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
Cheerfully with a smug smudgy smile, Ramon believes he said some
thing.
He says the left hate ideas. Now there's a group for modernizing
things.

DCI

DCI

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Oct 23, 2011, 4:24:04 AM10/23/11
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If President Obama does not know the answer to that question, it
explains a lot about his meandering administration.

DCI
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