Sorry to be crude, but I have seen the movie several times and cannot
figure out why the hell that big chipmumk is blowing that guy in the
room....pretty wierd, though....is this in the book, and does the book
make any more sense than the film?
thanks!
mike ;)=
>thanks!
>mike ;)=
I believe it is an attempt at suggesting a connection to possible
Satanic ritiuals.  Animals are ofter used in these ritiuals.  In some
religions animals are given the status of God.  Places of Satanic
activity are often said to possess an evilness of its own after a
time.  I guess from all the demons that were brought forth by some
ametuer who then lost control of it.  Does this help?
>Sorry to be crude, but I have seen the movie several times and cannot
>figure out why the hell that big chipmumk is blowing that guy in the
>room....pretty wierd, though....is this in the book, and does the book
>make any more sense than the film?
>thanks!
>mike ;)=
I read the book before I saw the movie and it still took me two or
three viewings to make sense of the movie. As for the chipmunk and his
blowjob....... God only knows what pit that crawled out of !! 
Shayne. ;)
> as...@millenium.texas.net (Michael Royal) wrote:
> 
> 
> >Sorry to be crude, but I have seen the movie several times and cannot
> >figure out why the hell that big chipmumk is blowing that guy in the
> >room....pretty wierd, though....is this in the book, and does the book
> >make any more sense than the film?
> 
> >thanks!
> 
> >mike ;)=
> 
> I believe it is an attempt at suggesting a connection to possible
> Satanic ritiuals.  Animals are ofter used in these ritiuals.  In some
> religions animals are given the status of God.  Places of Satanic
> activity are often said to possess an evilness of its own after a
> time.  I guess from all the demons that were brought forth by some
> ametuer who then lost control of it.  Does this help?
I always thought is was the after-effect of a costume party at the
Overlook gone horribly awry! :)
I saw the movie once when it first came out and haven't watched it since, so
there isn't much I remember about it, other than being disappointed. However,
in the book there is a man in costume as a dog who had a thing for one
of the main baddies. I believe he performed this service on him. Was the
costume changed in the movie or am I just out to lunch on the whole
thing? :D
Janice Markey
> Sorry to be crude, but I have seen the movie several times and cannot
> figure out why the hell that big chipmumk is blowing that guy in the
> room....pretty wierd, though....is this in the book, and does the book
> make any more sense than the film?
> 
> thanks!
> 
> mike ;)=
     Actually, it's a guy in a dog suit, not a chipmunk suit. There was a
character in the book who was the sex toy of Horace Derwent (The
mysterious Howard Hughes-ish owner of the Overlook). One character
referred to Derwent as being "AC/DC now". The apparition of the guy in the
dog suit chased Danny around at one point, and mentioned that he would
"...huff and puff until Harry Derwent's all blown down!" Derwent must have
had some kinda strange, canine/oral sex fetish. Takes all kinds, I guess.
    The brief inclusion of these characters in the film must have been
some kind of hurried attempt by Kubrick to include more stuff from the
novel. Maybe there were more scenes featuring them that didn't make the
final cut, but I really don't know.
-Dave
> is this in the book, and does the book make any more sense than the 
> film? 
	It's in the book as above, and IMHO the book makes more sense. 
Besides that, if you read the book and _then_ watch the movie, the movie 
makes more sense, because stuff like this is actually explained in the 
book. There are also some significant changes in the movie's story as 
opposed to the book, so the movie hasn't ruined the book as much as you 
might expect. Read the book, it's great!
Curtis
Dave
It has been awhile since I last reread The Shining, but I believe that I have 
this right.  The man receiving the blow-job was once the owner of The 
Overlook.  The man in the dog suit was a gay man who had a big-time crush 
on the owner.
In the book the owner repeatedly humiliated this man, including the time at 
the costume ball, when the gay man came dressed in the dog suit.  The owner 
made him perform tricks (roll over, speak, play dead), and even wet himself.
When I first saw this movie, I was probably 7-8 YO.  When I saw this scene, I
had no idea what was going on.  When I asked my mom what the deal was, 
she acted embarrassed and readily changed the subject.  I had forgotten all 
about this scene until I again saw the movie about 5 yrs later.  Needless to 
say I was ROFL.  :)
Brandon (first time post!)
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Anyway I think it's stupid that they throw a scene from the book wihtout 
explaining it. As stupid as featuring that black cook -forgetting his name-
only to kill him in the end of the move, something that DOESN'T happen
in the book.
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> Dave
The scene was in the book, except the man was in costume as a dog, not
a chipmunk. 
CAM
Despite all these arguments, I think that Kubrick threw the scene in
there just screw with the viewer's mind. 
The book and movie differ so greatly, that even someone who read the book
would say, "What the hell is going on here?" 
Personally, I think that was Kubrick's intention. Like the waterfall of
blood, the haunting double images of the twins and Jack's tee shot into
Dick Halloran's stomach, Kubrick uses these images to mentally disturb
and molest his viewer.
For myself, I look at the movie and book as two separate works. I liked
the book more, b/c I liked the characters more. However I liked the
psychology of the movie more, b/c Kubrick presentation really affected me.
Granted, you have to give the movie a fair chance to work on you, but if
you allow Kubrick his little pleasures, you'll find that the movie scares
you in an entirely different way than the books does.
Anyway...
- M
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>I read the book before I saw the movie and it still took me two or
>three viewings to make sense of the movie. As for the chipmunk and his
>blowjob....... God only knows what pit that crawled out of !! 
Geez, I have *no* recollection of anything like that.  I guess
selective memory can sometimes be a blessing, eh? ;-)
Valérie
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