Re: ADDRESSING WICCA
Jani
"Hammond of Texas" <spammer...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> In article <b1pRc.41623$zc4.15...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
> Ma...@optonline.net says...
> >
> > "Hammond of Texas" <spammer...@spamcop.net> wrote in
> > message >
> >
> >
> > > Would you deny a homesexual the right to marry?
> > >
> > > Yes or no, please.
> >
> > No, I would not.
> >
> > They can marry, just as any other person in the United States
> > can marry. A homosexual can marry according to the
> > Constitution of the USA, just as you or I can.
>
> In point of fact, homosexuals may NOT "...marry, just as any other
> person in the United States can marry...". This issue is still very much
> up in the air in most states. One state, however, appears to have come
> out loud and clear in favor of hate. The voters in the State of Missouri
> now have the dubious distinction of passing an ammendment to their state
> constitution banning gay marriage.
>
> That said, I will take you at your word that you "...would not..." act
> in a similar fashion. Please take this as it is offered; as the most
> sincere apology. I misjudged you and lumped you in with the rest of the
> facist Christian rabble that seem so thick in these forums. That was an
> act of pure prejudice on my part and for that, I offer my sincere
> apology.
You didn't actually establish whether or not Maz would let homosexuals marry
*others of the same sex* .... just a thought :)
Jani
SteveZ176
Sodomite Hate and Queer Presidents and leaders are exposed.gestions in
Self-defense are given. Sodomy is blasted.PG-17 please.
SODOMY
POLICY:
We are not "homophobes." This word means, "The fear of men." This is
newspeak of course, as it is used in the sodomite community and in
propaganda machines in public schools and Federal agencies. We are
NOT frightened of men. We are also not frightened of sodomites.
We do not respond in terms of phobias, like sodomites who panic when
they come face to face with a manly Bible believer. Stories abound of
how some sodomites have gone into demonic frenzy and done unspeakable
things when faced with a true saint of Jesus Christ. This is because
they don't know what to do with a Bible believing man. THEY are the
ones with a manic phobia.
Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having
faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not
selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given
to filthy lucre;
8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy,
temperate;
A man of God will love good men. Sodomites, in the Word of God, are
called "an abomination" to God. So, a godly man will love good men
without phobia, and he will hate the sin of sodomites, again, without
phobia. Thus, the word "homophobia" is self-contradictory and means
nothing.
And yes, a godly man will have the love of Jesus Christ in his heart
for sodomites. This is not sensual love-- it is the love that calls
any sinner from his rebellion against the love of Jesus Christ to
repent and be converted and leave the old life of sin and death.
Indeed, every person born since Cain was born a sinner and must
respond the same way to avoid the fires of hell.
"Today, homosexuals not only are a protected class of people based on
their sexual behavior, they are a celebrated group of people on
television,
in movies, in books and in the media. They are portrayed as heroes,
quite
literally. And what places them in that category is what they do in
their
bedrooms, and sometimes in public restrooms." Joseph Farah
Since when did a man get to be a celebrity for shoving his member up a
manure hole, AC or DC? And, how did these conasewers convince the
leaders of the nation to make special laws protecting this practice?
_ _ _ _ _
Upchuck Colson on sodomite marriages:
"Christians must not fall into that sentiment trap,
nor can we simply quote Scripture to deny homosexual unions."
Hey, Chuck, why is it unloving to quote the
Word of God to settle a moral issue?
Sounds like you are spending too much time
with Tony Campolo exploring your feminine side.
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God,
that they which commit such things are worthy of death,
not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
_ _ _ _ _
It would be great if we didn't have to have this page, but since we
live in Sodom,
we have to let you have a look, and a starting point, to do research
on this subject.
The sins of Sodom are more than sexual:
Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom,
pride,
fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her
daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me:
therefore I took them away as I saw good.
_ _ _ _ _
ARTICLES:
AMERICAN LIFE LEAGUE ARTICLE
A CALL TO SODOMITES TO FINISH THE JOB- By Jonathan Edwards The Second
SODOMITE MARRIAGE IS HERE TO STAY
CHRISTIAN RESPONSE TO HOMOSEXUALITY- By Len Munsil
SODOMY AND ISLAM
SODOMY AND THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION OF THE BIBLE
PASTOR ALLEN TURNER ON SODOMY
THE "HOMOPHOBIA" QUESTIONNAIRE AND SUGGESTED ANSWERS
WHAT NON-SODOMITES ARE SAYING ABOUT SODOMITES
THE DISNEY COMPANY'S CAMPAIGN FOR SODOMITES
Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck Sodomites?
Daisy Duck and Minnie Mouse lesbians? The proof is in.
THE SEARCH FOR ADAM AND STEVE IN GENESIS
VOCABULARY LESSON:
"The Nov. 18 ruling by the Massachusetts Supreme Court, effectively
striking down the state's ban on same-sex marriage, enshrines
everything America stands for: Equality, personal freedom, separation
of church and state and "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,"
to name a few. Hardly an official edict declaring "Gay is great," it
affirms personal freedom, nothing more."
"Unsurprisingly,
straight supremacist groups such as the American "Family" Association
and the "Family" Research Council are fearful that they might no
longer be able to depend on the state to undermine same-sex
relationships by denying their existence and disregarding the couple's
wishes." —
Chris Kelly,
"Extend marriage rights to all,"
Daily Mississippian, December 3, 2003
Blessed Quietness Editor:
We are now officially
straight supremacists. This is a Mississippi news paper using southern
terminology for Black hating KKK and Identity hate organizations. The
zeal for biblical truth, which agrees with God that sodomy is filthy,
is now being cast as KKK type zeal. It will not be long until Bible
believers will be going to prison, and assigned to government
psychiatrists, to be cleansed of their love of the holy things of God.
In the spirit of the above violation of freedom of speech by the jerk
Mississippi newspaper, we at Blessed Quietness Journal go on record
stating that we are indeed
STRAIGHT SUPREMACISTS
for the Gospel and Glory of The Lord Jesus Christ.
Tough beans if that offends someone!
We're Straight,
Narrow Gate,
Get used to it!
Sodomites kill each other...
What are they griping about?
The Supreme Court promotes the death of sodomites
Sodomites are
self-destructing
Bible believers need to stay on course, and the problem will go away.
New York and Californication are going to destroy the US economy
financing sodomite AIDS victims.
The cost of AIDS is hidden in Social Security, SSI, Medicare, VA, and
other budgets for general health. This is done to deceive the public
into thinking AIDS costs are not terribly high.
For every $10 spent per cancer death on cancer research, $110 is spent
per AIDS death on AIDS research
NIH allocates $2,100 per year for each HIV/AIDS patient--
$2,100,000,000 /yr. Add all other costs in Medicare, VA, SS, SSI, and
factor in wages lost, and you KNOW the USA will be bankrupt one day
unless sodomites and fornicators all die.
It costs $50,000 per AIDS victim per year for drugs alone. That is
50,000,000,000.
If the average AIDS patient would make $30,000 in salary per year, the
GNP loses a minimum of $30,000,000,000 per year.
If the 1,000,000 estimate of people with AIDS in the USA is multiplied
by 4, as three highly placed US health officials instructed me on the
phone, the net loss to the US economu is minimum:
$328,000,000,000
Now, we can only imagine what the loss is to the tax base by those who
stop working and wait to die.
160,000 new cases a year (real numbers)...
My estimate in 1990 of the net loss to the US economy in 2004was
around $1,500,000,000,000
I also predicted that the US would have to recruit Mexicans to work
for us. George Bush is doing just that.
LATEST SODOMITE PERVERSION THE "BILLY DOLL"
QUEER MADI GRAS IN SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
HANK HANEGRAAFF Wimps Out on Sodomy
TRACT HANDED OUT ANONYMOUSLY
AT A NEW YORK CITY SODOMITE RALLY
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Dr. James "Diddle Head" Dobson Speaks
The bottom line is that homosexuality is not primarily about sex. It
is about everything else, including loneliness, rejection,
affirmation, intimacy, identity, relationships, parenting,
self-hatred, gender confusion, and a search for belonging. This
explains why the homosexual experience is so intense -- and why there
is such anger expressed against those who are perceived as
disrespecting gays and lesbians or making their experience more
painful. I suppose if we who are straight had walked in the shoes of
those in that "other world," we would be angry too.
This man is taking the Freudian view that sodomites need to be
understood and receive our patience. Also, note that Dobson does not
say that sodomy is about sin. Sin is what makes the sodomite mad.
Straights are not in a sin of "abomination" simply because they
practice heterosexual sex. Some heterosexual activity is wholesome,
being in the bounds of marriage. Other heterosexual activity is
sinful, being in fornication or adultery. But, ALL sodomy is sin by
definition of the Word of God. Heterosexual sex is about procreation.
Sodomy has nothing to do with "be fruitful and multiply." Sodomy IS
about sex, dirty sex, Satanic sex, urinating in one another's mouths
(golden showers), defecating in one another's mouths (scat), and
licking one another's anuses (rimming).
This is NOT a "search for belonging."
This is demon possession. So, we are not Victorians here-- we tell you
what sin is and what the fruit of sin is. We hate sin in ourselves, we
hate sin in the world, and we hate it when men parade under color of
Christendom, while they soften sin to make it merely a matter of
"rejection" and "gender confusion"-- BAH.
I have studied the life of Osama bin Laden long before his big trick
in New York City. He was also a man who was rejected. He had
"parenting" problems. He lacked" affirmation." Osama, with 56 brothers
and sisters, undoubtedly missed some " intimacy" with his Daddy. But,
Osama bin Laden is defined, world wide, as a murderer, and he will be
killed in a flash if he is caught. He will not get off for "temporary
insanity" because some shrink like Dr. Dobson whines on Osama's
behalf. No one wants "understanding" for Osama. I am not saying Osama
is equal to sodomites. I AM saying that sin is sin, and it is wicked
to redefine it in softer language from Maslow or Skinner.
I have been asked, by a sincere reader, if I am too graphic. I can
appreciate his concern. Sodomy cannot be discussed rationally in
pleasant terms. The problem today is that sin is not made dirty enough
to jolt the complacent mind of the average couch potato in
Christendom. The average preacher does not make the effort to learn
what sodomites do, and how they think, so the whole Church is
"ignorant of his devices." Also, I can assure you that I have held
back the worst of the sodomite picture, though you may wonder how much
worse it can be than the above mentioned activities.
Romans 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God
forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that
which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding
sinful.
Sodomy is filthy, and it must be made "exceeding sinful," that is, if
we are to preach "sin and righteousness and judgment"-- "that which is
good." Sodomy makes its followers sick almost all the time with all
manner of trouble in the bowels and with kidney and urinary infections
frequently. Sodomy is about AIDS, with about 95% of all sodomites
positive. Sodomy is about men smelling like body fluids and excretion.
Sodomy is about young men being aroused by the smell of a urinal in a
restroom. Sodomy is about sorrow, guilt, and stupidity.
So, the guilty hate the innocent. You may tell me you know a very
civilized sodomite. So do I, and I am delighted that many of them
restrain themselves in public. But, sodomy is the single most powerful
addiction on earth. Once a young man commits himself to this sin, his
chance of deliverance is almost zero. Any inhibitions he had which he
acquired from the salt of a Christian family, society, or spouse will
be tossed to the wind. And, when the day comes that he can no longer
attract young men, there is a very high risk that he will kill
himself.
Dr. Dobson is a shrink who has now dipped his little bucket in the
fountain of Satan's queer Freudian do-gooders. Dr. Dobson is the
servant of a devil who is promoting the agenda of filth and Satan.
Nothing else can be assumed about this "natural brute beast." Dobson
reverts to the logic of the damnable New Agers as he suggests we would
benefit by walking "in the shoes of those in that other world." Is Dr.
Dobson a sodomite? He sure sounds like it. Indeed, he sounds like he
is a recruiter from Castro District.
For the record, there is more hope of the average sodomite being born
again than for Dr. Dobson. This man has set his face against God, and
the cash flow will NOT permit him to now retrace his steps. Mark it
down.
In all fairness, we also must note that when straights are confronted
with their sins of adultery, divorce, gluttony, racism, and other
wickedness, they too lash out at the one declaring the truth of the
Word of God. All willful sinners hate to be confronted with the
holiness of God, no matter what alleged "life style" they choose.
Indeed, every Bible believer must agree that hard nosed right minded
Bible teaching is the fastest way a pastor can get into trouble in a
Fundamental Baptist Church. Expose Freemasonry, and some Mason will
start a rear guard move to oust the pastor. Preach against divorce and
remarriage, and a deacon with three wives will start handing out Dr.
Peter Ruckman's apologetic book on the glories of divorce.
Also, we go on record that we do NOT give up on sodomites. Practicing
sodomites do not go to heaven when they die. There are no sodomite
born again Christians. BUT, they may repent of their sin and be
delivered by The Lord Jesus Christ BEFORE they die. They will then
leave their sodomy and be changed into heterosexuals by the Holy
Ghost. There were NO sodomites in the Garden of Eden-- only
procreators. And, God never made a baby a sodomite in the womb. This
is blasphemy.
1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit
the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are
sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by
the Spirit of our God.
So, let a man take heed lest he fall.
Are we too harsh? Let me tell you the other side of the story.
Evolution defines life on earth in terms of the "survival of the
fittest." Evolution also stands solidly on the presupposition that
procreation and reproduction are absolutely essential for natural
selection to prevail. When a species sets about to do same sex acts
and abandons heterosexual acts, that species is written off by
evolution. Indeed, the strong are exonerated if they devour such throw
backs. They are defined as weak, and their instincts are deformed.
They are worthless to the evolutionary model.
The politically correct gang believe this, yet they defend sodomy as
natural and normal. I like to see evolutionists make fools of
themselves. However; I must say that I have seen in highly placed One
Worlders, such as Scull and Bonesmen, and the Aspen Institute think
tank, a temperament to destroy sodomites. They DO believe in the
evolutionary model, and they intend to destroy sodomites as
unproductive.
So, let us hear none of this rubbish that Christians are the enemy.
Bible believers, real ones, never give up on anyone until they are
dead. Salvation is offered to every filthy urine smelling sodomite in
San Francisco. Jesus Christ did not exclude one of them when he died
on the Cross for the sins of all men.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men
count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any
should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
When you find a Christian showing only hate for the sodomite, or when
you hear talk at the church house of killing sodomites, you are not in
a Bible believing church house. Move on down the street and find one
where the sin is hated, but the sinner is loved and offered salvation
through Jesus Christ.
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LINKS:
Some of these links lead to even more filthy things--
BEWARE!
SODOMITE PRACTICES-- This is a very explicit page, but useful
THE FACTS ABOUT SODOMITES
JACK CHICK'S NEW TRACT ON SODOMY AND SCHOOLS
PRESIDENTS AND FREEMASONS WHO WERE SODOMITES
HOMOSEXUAL MANIFESTO-- This is clearly a declaration of war
EXCEPTIONAL ARTICLE EXPOSING SODOMY FOR WHAT IT IS
Straight bishop nearly ends up in the Old Bailey for telling sodomites
to see a shrink.
Titus 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second
admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being
condemned of himself.
THE DEPTHS OF SATAN
YET DEEPER !! Caution-- NO Children please
THE BEGINNING OF THE QUEER NATION--
How long until all public services have a queer stream? This is
historically insane. The Jews, about 170 years ago in Europe, were
allowed to start their own "ghettos." The meaning of the word then was
almost an honor for a Jew, for they had their own private suburb in
many cities in Europe. What happened with time? The anti-Semitic
citizens drove Jews into the ghettos and then isolated them. This is
what is going to happen with this special program. Sodomites will be
put out of the way and then hated even more. Many Bible believers will
be only too pleased to have them treated this way. So, what kind of
fool wants this plan? Only a sodomite with a brain gone bad.
CANADA IS MAKING THE BIBLE INTO HATE LITERATURE
READ HOW CANADIAN COURT JUSTICES PARTY WITH, AND PANDER TO, SODOMITES
DO SODOMITES HAVE POWER?
THE SICK WORLD OF ACADEMIC FREEDOM
SODOMY IS CLEARLY A FACTOR IN SERIAL KILLERS
THE ROMAN CHURCH TAKES IT ON THE CHIN
A CATHOLIC SOCIETY BEING MOCKED
THE BLASPHEMY OF THE MASS INVITES THE ATTACK
YOUR TAX DOLLAR AT WORK
YOU CAN ALMOST FEEL SORRY FOR SINCERE CATHOLICS
WE ARE ACCUSED OF HATE. SO, WHAT IS THIS?
TO THOSE WHO THINK WE ARE TOO ROUGH-- Please check out these sites.
I hope you see the difference in our approach and the hate that others
display.
DIRTY LADIES: Goddess cult, or Lesbianism?:
THE SODOMITES ARE GETTING THE MESSAGE:
THE SUPREME BLASPHEMY:
http://www.truluck.com/
No children on the above link please.
SODOMITES CAN CHANGE:
http://www.otherside.net/annpaulk.htm and:
http://www.otherside.net/jonpaulk.htm
According to Dr. Stanley Monteith, author of Aids, the Unnecessary
Epidemic....
93% of homosexuals engage in anal sex.
92% engage in licking the anus.
47% engage in "fisting" (If you don't know what that is, I'm not going
to be the one to tell you.)
29% engage in "golden showers" (urinating on each other and in each
others' mouths)."
Steve
Hammond of Texas
ja...@dsl.pipex.com says...
> > That said, I will take you at your word that you "...would not..." act
> > in a similar fashion. Please take this as it is offered; as the most
> > sincere apology. I misjudged you and lumped you in with the rest of the
> > facist Christian rabble that seem so thick in these forums. That was an
> > act of pure prejudice on my part and for that, I offer my sincere
> > apology.
>
> You didn't actually establish whether or not Maz would let homosexuals marry
> *others of the same sex* .... just a thought :)
Oh, that thought had occured to me. I have chosen the high road, and
taken him at his word, based on the context of the conversation. In so
doing, I must also admit my error. This I have done, freely. If he IS
playing those games, he is welcome to, and then we will all know what
kind of person he is.
Jani
Christianity. If you can't tell the difference ... oh, dear.
*chuckle*
Jani
"SteveZ176" <Stev...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/sodomy.htm
Jani
I'm used to looking at verbal get-outs, which is why I mentioned it.
Sometimes the question which is asked, is not *quite* the one which is
answered. And certainly, those who oppose gay marriage will often say that
gays are free to marry ... provided they contract a *heterosexual* marriage.
Jani
Maz
This is not a game. You said I was hateful because I am
denying homosexuals the right to marry. I am not. They have
the same rights you and I have in this country (if you are an
American).
They want the right to change the definition of marriage in
the constitution.
You didn't ask me if I was in favor of gay marriages. You
stated I was denying homosexuals the right to marry.
No I am not in favor of gay marriages. ~My~ opinion is that
marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
family. I go by the beginning. In the beginning God created
man then woman. They became one flesh through marriage, as it
should be today. Children are in need of both male and female
role models for healthy growth. That is~ my~ opinion, which
in this country I am entitled to have and to voice. You are
entitled to your opinion, without me calling you hateful
towards the children of the future.
Brenda G. Kent
No I am not in favor of gay marriages. ~My~ opinion is that
marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
family. I go by the beginning. In the beginning God created
man then woman. They became one flesh through marriage, as it
should be today. Children are in need of both male and female
role models for healthy growth. That is~ my~ opinion, which
in this country I am entitled to have and to voice. You are
entitled to your opinion, without me calling you hateful
towards the children of the future.
Bren says: I agree...everyone can have an opinion and I respect yours Maz.
I don't agree with it..but I do respect it.
Blessings
Bren
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Hammond of Texas
Ma...@optonline.net says...
> This is not a game.
I agree. So why do you treat it like one?
> You said I was hateful because I am
> denying homosexuals the right to marry. I am not. They have
> the same rights you and I have in this country (if you are an
> American).
>
> They want the right to change the definition of marriage in
> the constitution.
> You didn't ask me if I was in favor of gay marriages. You
> stated I was denying homosexuals the right to marry.
This disingenuous trick is childish in the extreme. You knew full well
what the we were talking about.
You claim to want respect, and then act like this?
>
> No I am not in favor of gay marriages. ~My~ opinion is that
> marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
> family. I go by the beginning. In the beginning God created
> man then woman. They became one flesh through marriage, as it
I retract my apology. You are a hateful bigot. May God grant you the
grace to see that before it is too late.
Gene Goldman
> Maz said:
>
> No I am not in favor of gay marriages. ~My~ opinion is that
> marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
> family.
So are you saying that an infertle couple, or one who can or will never
have children should not be entitled to marry?
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LOL, no it's not, here is an excerpt:
SteveZ176
Secret Societies/ New World Order
By Milton William Cooper
History is replete with whispers of secret societies. Accounts of
elders or priests who guarded the forbidden knowledge of ancient
peoples. Prominent men, meeting in secret, who directed the course of
civilization are recorded in the writings of all people.
The oldest is the Brotherhood of the Snake, also called the
Brotherhood of the Dragon, and it still exists under many different
names. It is clear that religion has always played a significant role
in the course of these organizations. Communication with a higher
source, often divine, is a familiar claim in all but a few.
The secrets of these groups are thought to be so profound that only a
chosen, well-educated few are able to understand and use them. These
men use their special knowledge for the benefit of all mankind. At
least that is what they claim. How are we to know, since their
knowledge and actions have been secret? Fortunately, some of it has
become public knowledge.
I found it intriguing that in most, if not all, primitive tribal
societies all of the adults are members. They are usually separated
into male and female groups. The male usually dominates the culture.
Surprisingly, this exactly resembles many civilized secret societies.
This can only mean that the society is working not against established
authority, but for it. In fact, could be said to actually be the
established authority. This would tend to remove the validity of any
argument that all secret associations are dedicated to the
"destruction of properly constituted authority." This can only apply,
of course, where the secret society makes up the majority or entirety
of any people which it affects. Only a very few fall into this
category.
Secret societies in fact mirror many facets of ordinary life. There is
always an exclusivity of membership, with the resultant importance
attached to being or becoming a member. This is found in all human
endeavors, even those which are not secret, such as football teams or
country clubs. This exclusivity of membership is actually one of the
secret societies' most powerful weapons. There is the use of signs,
passwords and other tools. These have always performed valuable
functions in man's organizations everywhere. The stated reason, almost
always different from the real reason, for the societies' existence is
important.
The comradeship is especially important. Sharing hardships or secrets
has always been a special thrill to man. No one who undergone the
rigors of boot camp is ever likely to forget the special feeling of
belonging and comradeship that was shared between the victims of the
drill sergeant or company commander. It is an emotion born of
initiation. The most potent tool of any secret society is the ritual
and myth surrounding initiation. These special binding ceremonies have
very deep meaning for the participants.
Initiation performs several functions which make up the heart and soul
of any true secret society. Like boot camp, the initiation into the
armed forces, important aspects of human thought that are universally
compelling, are merged to train and maintain the efforts of a group of
people to operate in a certain direction. Initiation bonds the members
together in mysticism.
Neophytes gain knowledge of a secret, giving them special status. The
ancient meaning of neophyte is "planted anew or reborn." A higher
initiation is in reality a promotion inspiring loyalty and the desire
to move up to the next rung. The goals of the society are reinforced,
causing the initiated to act toward those goals in everyday life. That
brings about a change in the political and social action of the
member. The change is always in the best interest of the goals of the
leaders of the secret society. The leaders are called adepts. This can
best be illustrated by the soldier trained to follow orders without
thinking. The result is often the wounding or death of the soldier for
the realization of the commander's goal which may or may not be good
for the overall community.
Initiation is a means of rewarding ambitious men who can be trusted.
You will notice that the higher the degree of initiation the fewer the
members who possess the degree. This is not because the other members
are not ambitious but because a process of very careful selection is
being conducted. A point is reached where no effort is good enough
without a pull up by the higher members. Most members never proceed
beyond this point and never learn the real, secret purpose of the
group. The frozen member from that point on serves only as a part of
the political power base as indeed he has always done. You may have
guessed by now that initiation is a way to determine who can and
cannot be trusted.
A method of deciding exactly who is to become an adept decided during
initiation by asking the candidate to spit upon the christian cross.
If the candidate refuses, the members congratulate him and tell him,
"You have made the right choice, as a true adept would never do such a
terrible thing." The newly initiated might find it disconcerting, that
he/she never advances any higher. If instead, the candidate spits upon
the cross, he/she has demonstrated a knowledge of one of the mysteries
and soon will find him/herself a candidate for the next higher level.
The mystery is that religion is but a tool to control the masses.
Knowledge (or wisdom) is their only god, through which man himself
will become god. The snake and the dragon are both symbols of wisdom.
Lucifer is a personification of the symbol. It was Lucifer who tempted
Eve to entice Adam to eat of the tree of knowledge and thus free man
from the bonds of ignorance. The WORSHIP (a lot different from STUDY)
of knowledge, science, or technology is Satanism in its purest form,
its secret symbol is the all-seeing eye in the pyramid.
Undesirable effects of secret societies and their aura of mystery has
sometimes given them the reputation for being abnormal associations
or, at the very least, strange groups of people. Whenever their
beliefs are those of the majority they are no longer considered
antisocial. A good example is the Christian church, which was at one
time a secret society under the Roman Empire. In fact, the "Open
Friendly Secret Society" (the Vatican) actually ruled most, if not
all, of the known world at one time.
Most secret societies are generally considered to be antisocial; they
are believed to contain elements that are not liked or are outright
harmful to the community in general. This is exactly the case in some
instances. Communism and fascism are secret societies in many
countries where they are prohibited by law. In this country the Nazi
party and the Ku Klux Klan are secret societies due mostly to the fact
that the general public is disgusted by them. Their activities are
sometimes illegal, thus the secrecy of their membership. The early
Christians were a secret society because Roman authorities considered
them from the start to be dangerous to imperial rule. The same was
true of the followers of Islam. The Druseed and Yezidis in Syria and
Iraq consider the Arabs a dangerous secret society dedicated to the
takeover of the world. The Arabs today think the same of the Jews.
Catholics and Freemasons used to have precisely the same ideas about
each other.
In many primitive or backward societies initiation into the highest
degrees of the group involved subjection to trials which not
infrequently resulted in death or insanity for the candidate. It can
be seen that social right and wrong is not the yardstick in estimating
the value of a secret society. In Borneo, initiates of hunting
societies, consider it meritorious and compulsory to hunt heads. In
Polynesia, infanticide and debauch were considered essential for
initiation into their societies, where the tribal code needed members
who indulged in these things, as pillars of society.
Since the beginning of recorded history, governmental bodies of every
on have been involved with maintaining the status quo to defend the
establishment against minority groups that sought to function as
states within states or to oust the constituted authority and take
over in its place.
Many of these attempts have succeeded but have not always lasted.
Man's desire to be one of the elect is something that no power on
earth has been able to lessen, let alone destroy. It is one of the
"secrets" of secret societies. It is what gives them a political base
and lots of clout. Members often vote the same and give each other
preference in daily business, legal, and social activities. It is the
deepest desire of many to be able to say, "I belong to the elect."
Houses of worship and sacrifice existed in the ancient cities. They
were in fact temples built in honor of the many gods. These buildings
functioned often as meeting places for philosophers and mystics who
were believed to possess the secrets of nature. These men usually
banded together in seclusive philosophic and religious schools.
The most important of all of these ancient groups is the Brotherhood
of the Snake, or Dragon, and was simply known as the Mysteries. The
snake and dragon are symbols that represent wisdom. The father of
wisdom is Lucifer, also called the Light Bearer. The focus of worship
for the Mysteries was Osiris, the name of a bright star that the
ancients believed had been cast down onto the earth. The literal
meaning of Lucifer is "bringer of light" or "the morning star." After
Osiris was gone from the sky, the ancients saw the Sun as the
representation of Osiris ("...it is claimed that, after Lucifer fell
from Heaven, he brought with him the power of thinking as a gift for
mankind." Fred Gittings, Symbolism in Occult Art)
Most of the greatest minds that ever lived were initiated into the
society of Mysteries by secret and dangerous rites, some of which were
very cruel. Some of the most famous were known as Osiris, Isis,
Sabazius, Cybele and Eleusis. Plato was one of these initiates and he
describes someof the mysteries in his writings.
Plato's initiation encompassed three days of entombment in the Great
Pyramid, during which time he died (symbolically), was reborn, and was
given secrets that he was to preserve. Plato's writings are full of
information on the Mysteries. Manly P. Hall stated in his book, The
Secret Teachings of All Ages that, "...the illumined of
antiquity...entered its (pyramid of Giza) portals as men; they came
forth as gods." The ancient Egyptian word for pyramid was khuti, which
meant "glorious light." Mr. Hall says also, "The pyramids, the great
Egyptian temples of initiation..."
According to many, the great pyramids were built to commemorate and
observe a supernova explosion that occurred in the year 4000 B.C. Dr.
Anthony Hewish, 1974 Nobel Prize winner in physics, discovered a
rhythmic series of radio pulses which he proved were emissions from a
star that had exploded around 4000 B.C. The Freemasons begin their
calendar from A.L., "In the Year of Light," found by adding 4000 to
the modern year. Thus 1990 + 4000 = 5990 A.L. George Michanowsky wrote
in The Once and Future Star that "The ancient Sumerian
cuneiform...described a giant star exploding within a triangle formed
by...Zeta Puppis, Gamma Velorum, and Lambda Velorum...located in the
southern sky....[An] accurate star catalogue now stated that the
blazing star that had exploded within the triangle would again be seen
by man in 6000 years." According to the Freemason's calendar it will
occur in the year 2000, and indeed it will.
The spacecraft called Galileo is on its way to Jupiter, a baby star
with a gaseous makeup exactly the same as our sun, with a load of 49.7
pounds of plutonium, supposedly being used as batteries to power the
craft. When its final orbit decays in December 1999, Galileo will
deliver its payload into the center of Jupiter. The unbelievable
pressure that will be encountered will cause a reaction exactly as
occurs when an atomic bomb is exploded by an implosion detonator. The
plutonium will explode in an atomic reaction, lighting the hydrogen
and helium atmosphere of Jupiter and resulting in the birth of the
star that has already been named Lucifer. The world will interpret it
as a sign of tremendous religious significance. It will fulfill
prophecy. In reality it is only a demonstration of the insane
application of technology by the JASON Society which may or may not
even work. They have practiced overkill to ensure success, however, as
the documents that I read while in Naval Intelligence stated that
Project GALILEO required only five pounds of plutonium to ignite
Jupiter and possibly stave off the coming ice age. Global warming is a
hoax. It is easier for the public to deal with and will give the
ruling elite more time before panic and anarchy replace government.
The reality is that overall global temperatures are becoming lower.
Storms are becoming more violent and less predictable.
The icecaps at the poles are growing larger. The temperate zones where
food can be grown are shrinking. Desertification is increasing in the
tropics. An ice age is on its way, and it will occur suddenly.
Simultaneously a vault containing the ancient records of the earth
will opened in Egypt. The opening of the vault will usher in the
millennium. A great celebration has already been planned by the
Millennium Society to take place at the pyramids in Egypt. According
to the January 3, 1989, edition of the Arizona Daily Star,
"President-elect Bush is spending this New Year's holiday at Camp
David, Maryland, but in 10 years he may be in Egypt. Organizers of the
Millennium Society say he's already committed to ushering in the next
century at the Great Pyramid of Cheops in Giza.
The first secret that one must know to even begin to understand the
Mysteries is that their members believe that there are but few truly
mature minds in the world. They believe that those minds belong
exdusively to them. The philosophy that follows is the classic
secret-society view of humanity:
"When a person of strong intellect is confronted with a problem which
calls for the use of reasoning faculties, they keep their poise and
attempt to read a solution by garnering facts bearing upon the
question. On the other hand, those who are immature, when confronted
by the small problem, are overwhelmed. While the former may be said to
be qualified to solve the mystery of their own destiny, the latter
must be led like a bunch of animals and taught in the simplest
language. Like sheep they are totally dependent upon the shepherd. The
able intellect is taught the Mysteries and the esoteric spiritual
truths. The masses are taught the literal, exoteric interpretations.
While the masses worship the five senses, the select few observe,
recognizing in the gulf between them the symbolic concretions of great
abstract truths.
"The initiated elect communicate directly to Gods (ALIENS?) who
communicate back to them. The masses sacrifice their lambs on an altar
facing a stone idol that can neither hear or speak. The elect are
given knowledge of the Mysteries and are illumined and are thus known
as The Illluminati or the Illuminated Ones, the guardians of the
'Secrets of the Ages."'
Three early secret societies that can be directly connected to a
modern descendant are the cults of Roshaniya, Mithras and their
counterpart, the Builders. They have many things in common with the
Freemasons of today as well as with many other branches of the
Illuminati. For instance, common to the Brotherhood are the symbolic
rebirth into a new life without going through the portal of death
during initiation; reference to the "Lion" and "the Grip of the Lion's
Paw" in the Master Mason's degree; the three degrees, which is the
same as the ancient Masonic rites before the many other degrees were
added; the ladder of seven rungs; men only; and the "all-seeing eye."
Of special interest is the powerful society in Afghanistan in ancient
times called the Roshaniya--illuminated ones. There are actually
references to this mystical cult going back through history to the
House of Wisdom at Cairo. The major tenets of this cult were: the
abolition of private property; the elimination of religion; the
elimination of nation states; the belief that illumination emanated
from the Supreme Being who desired a class of perfect men and women to
carry out the organization and direction of the world; belief in a
plan to reshape the social system of the world by first taking control
of individual countries one by one, and the belief that after reaching
the fourth degree one could communicate directly with the unknown
supervisors who had imparted knowledge to initiates throughout the
ages. Wise men will again recognize the Brotherhood.
The important fact to remember is that the leaders of both the right
and the left are a small, hard core of men who have been and still are
Illuminists or members of the Brotherhood. They may have been or may
be members of the Christian or Jewish religions, but that is only to
further their own ends. They give allegiance to no particular nation,
although they have used nationalism to further their causes. Their
only concern is to gain greater economic and political power. The
ultimate objective of the leaders of both groups is identical. They
are determined to win for themselves undisputed control of the wealth,
natural resources, and manpower of the entire planet. They intend to
turn the world into their conception of a totalitarian socialist
state. In the process they will eliminate all Christians, Jews, and
atheists. You have just learned one, but only one, of the great
mysteries.
The Roshaniya also called themselves the Order. Initiates took an oath
that absolved them of all allegiance except to the Order and stated,
"I bind myself to perpetual silence and unshaken loyalty and
submission to the Order....All humanity which cannot identify itself
by our secret sign is our lawful prey." The oath remains essentially
the same to this day. The secret sign was to pass a hand over the
forehead, palm inward; the countersign, to hold the ear with the
fingers and support the elbow in the cupped other hand. Does that
sound familiar? The Order is the Order of the Quest. The cult preached
that there was a spirit state completely different from life as we
know it. The spirit could continue to be powerful on earth through a
member of the Order, but only if the spirit had been itself a member
of the Order before its death. Thus members of the Order gained power
from the spirits of the dead members.
The Roshaniya took in travelers as initiates and then sent them on
their way to found new chapters of the Order. It is believed by some
that the Assassins were a branch of the Roshaniya. Branches of the
Roshaniya or "the illuminated ones" or the Illuminati existed and
still exist everywhere. One of the rules was not to use the same name
and never mention "the Illuminati." That rule is still in effect
today. I believe that it is the breaking of this rule that resulted in
Adam Weishaupt's downfall.
One of the greatest secrets of the ages is the true story of the Holy
Grail, the robe of Jesus, the remains of the Cross of Crucifixion, and
whether Jesus actually died or if he survived and produced a child.
Many myths surround the Knights Templar concerning these relics, and
most myths throughout history always have at least some basis in fact.
If my sources are correct, the Knights Templar survive today as a
branch of the Illuminati and guard the relics, which are hidden in a
location known only to them.
We know that the Templars are Illuminati because the Freemasons
absorbed and protected those that escaped persecution of the church
and France, just as the Freemasons would absorb and protect
Weishaupt's Illuminati centuries later. The Knights Templar exist
today as a high degree of Freemasonry within the Templar Order. In
fact, the Knights Templar is a branch of the Order of the Quest. The
DeMolay Society is branch of the Freemasons that consecrates the
memory of the persecution of the Knights Templar and in particular,
their leader Jacques deMolay. I know, because I was a member of the
DeMolay Society as a young adult. I loved the mystery and ritual. I
became separated from the Society when my family moved to a location
out of reach of any lodge. I believe to this day that my association
with the DeMolay Society may have been the reason for my selection for
Naval Security and Intelligence.
According to members of the intelligence community, when the New World
Order is solidified the relics will be taken out, will be united with
the Spear of Destiny, and will, according to legend, give the world's
ruler absolute power. This may confirm beliefs passed down through the
ages that describe the significance of these relics when united in the
hands one man. It explains Hitler's desperate search World War II.
(Gen. Patton had claimed it after defeat)
The Knights Templar were founded sometime during the 11th cent. in
Jerusalem by the Prieure de Sion for the express purpose of guarding
remaining relics of Jesus and to provide military protection for the
religious travelers during their pilgrimage to the Holy City.
The Prieure de Sion was a religious order founded upon Mount Sion in
Jerusalem. The Order set for itself the goal of preserving and
recording the bloodline of Jesus and the House of David. Through every
means available to them, the Prieure de Sion had found and retrieved
the remaining relics. These relics were entrusted to the Knights
Templar for safekeeping. I am amazed at the authors of Holy Blood,
Holy Grail and the information that they have unearthed. Most of all I
am amazed at their inability to put the puzzle together. The treasure
hidden in France is not the treasure of the Temple of Jerusalem. It is
the Holy Grail itself, the robe of Jesus, the last remaining pieces of
the Cross of Crucifixion, and, according to my sources, someone's
bones. I can tell you that the reality of the bones will shake the
world to its very foundations if I have been told the truth. The
relics are hidden in France. I know the location and so do the authors
of Holy Blood, Holy Grail, but they do not know that they know-- or do
they?
Adam Weishaupt, a young professor of canon law at Ingolstadt
University in Germany, was a Jesuit priest and an initiate of the
Illuminati. The branch of the Order he founded in Germany in 1776 was
the same Illuminati previously discussed. The Jesuit connection is
important, as you will see later in this chapter. Researchers agree
that he was financed by the House of Rothschild (mentioned in "Silent
Weapons for Quiet Wars"). Weishaupt advocated "abolition of all
ordered national governments, abolition of inheritance, abolition of
private property, abolition of patriotism, abolition of the individual
home and family life as the cell from which all civilizations have
stemmed, and abolition of all religions established and existing so
that the ideology of totalitarianism may be imposed on mankind."
In the same year that he founded the Illuminati he published Wealth of
Nations, the book that provided the ideological foundation for
capitalism and for the Industrial Revolution. It is no accident that
the Declaration of Independence was written in the same year. On the
obverse of the Great Seal of the United States the wise will recognize
the all-seeing eye and other signs of the Brotherhood of the Snake.
Every tenet was the same. Date and beliefs confirm that Weishaupt's
Illuminati is the same as the Afghan Illuminated Ones and the other
cults which called themselves "illuminated." The Alumbrados of Spain
were the same as were the "illuminated" Guerinets of France. In the
United States they were known as the Jacobin clubs. Secrets within
secrets within secrets--but always at the heart is the Brotherhood.
I believe that Weishaupt was betrayed and set up for persecution
because he ignored the rule that the word "illuminati" or the
existence of the Brotherhood would never be exposed to public
knowledge. His exposure and outlawing accomplished several goals of
the still-hidden and still very powerful brotherhood. It allowed
members to debunk claims of its existence on the grounds that the
Illuminati had been exposed and outlawed and thus was no longer a
reality. It allowed members to deny allegations of conspiracy of any
kind. The Brotherhood of the Snake is adept at throwing out decoys to
keep the dogs at bay. Weishaupt may have been a fool--or he may have
been doing exactly what he was told.
Weishaupt said, "The great strength of our Order lies in its
concealment; let it never appear in its own name, but always covered
by another name, and another occupation."
Allegations that the Freemason organizations were infiltrated by the
Illuminati during Weishaupt's reign are hogwash. The Freemasons have
always contained the core of Illuminati within their ranks, and that
is why they so freely and so willingly took in and hid the members of
Weishaupt's group. You cannot really believe that the Freemasons, if
they were only a simple fraternal organization, would have risked
everything, including their very lives, by taking in and hiding
outlaws who had been condemned by the monarchies of Europe. It is
mainly Freemason authors who have perpetuated the myth that Adam
Weishaupt was the founder of the Illuminati and that the Illuminati
was destroyed, never to surface again.
In 1826 an American Freemason wrote a book revealing Masonic secrets
entitled llustrations of Freemasonry. One of the secrets that he
revealed is that the last mystery at the top of the Masonic pyramid is
the worship of Lucifer. We have since learned the secret of the "story
of the murder of Hiram Abif." Hiram Abif represents intelligence,
liberty and truth, and was struck down by a blow to the neck with a
rule, representing the suppression of speech by the church; then he
was struck in the heart with the square, representing the suppression
of belief by the State; and finally he was struck on the head by a
maul, representing the suppression of intellect by the masses.
Freemasonry thus equates the Church, the State, and the masses with
tyranny, intolerance, and ignorance. What Morgan revealed was that the
Freemasons were pledged to avenge Hiram Abif and that their plan was
to strike down the Church, the State, and the freedom of the masses.
Morgan caused a small uproar against the Masons. The small uproar
turned into a full blown anti-Freemason movement when the author,
William Morgan, disappeared. Morgan had apparently been abducted and
drowned in Lake Ontario. It was alleged that fellow Masons had done
it, and that they deny to this day. Who else would have done it? I
believe they murdered him. The newspapers of the time state without
reservation that he was murdered by Masons. The oath of initiation
into the Freemasons states that if secrets are told, the initiate will
be murdered. A nationwide furor ensued that resulted in the creation
of an anti-Masonic political party in 1829 by Henry Dana Ward, Thurlow
Weed, and William H. Seward. Interest in several anti-Masonic books
was revived during that period, with the result that Freemasonry
suffered a severe loss of membership. It lasted only a few years and
by 1840 the anti-Masonic party was extinct. Time really does cure all
ills.
We know that the British Freemasons are a totally self-serving group
that discriminates in favor of its own whenever jobs, promotions,
contracts, or careers are concerned. The English Freemason
organization was used by the KGB to infiltrate and take over British
Intelligence. British Intelligence is synonomous with Chatham House,
more commonly known as the Royal Institute for International Affairs,
the parent organization of the Council on Foreign Relations in the
United States. The English state police, Scotland Yard, ordered its
personnel not to join the Masons for fear the same would happen to
them. Of course, you have been told all your life that the Freemasons
are only a benevolent fraternal organization bent only on community
service. Read on, O innocent one.
Probably the most notorious Freemason lodge is the P2 lodge in Italy.
This group has been implicated in everything from bribery to
assassinations. P2 is directly connected to the Vatican, the Knights
of Malta, and to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. It is powerful
and dangerous. The P2 lodge has succeeded in infiltrating the Vatican
and has scored a coup of tremendous significance: the Pope, John Paul
II, has lifted the ban against Freemasonry. Many high-level members of
the Vatican are now Freemasons.
I tell you now that Freemasonry is one of the most wicked and terrible
organizations upon this earth. The Masons are major players in the
struggle for world domination. The 33rd Degree is split into two. One
split contains the core of the Luciferian Illuminati and the other
contains those who have no knowledge of it whatsoever.
ALL of the intelligence officers that I worked for while in Naval
Intelligence were Masons. As I stated before, I believe that my
association with the DeMolay Society as a young adult may have been
the reason that I was selected for Naval Security and Intelligence.
However, that is only a guess.
I had intended to go into great detail linking P2, the Prieure de
Sion, the Vatican, the CIA, organizations for a United Europe, and the
Bilderberg Group. Fortunately, Michael Baigent, Righard Leigh & Henry
Lincoln beat me to it. I say fortunately, because they confirm my
previous allegation that I published in my paper "The Secret
Government" that the CIA had plants, called moles, deep within the
Vatican. You must read Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The Messianic
Legacy, both by Baigent, Leigh, & Lincoln. Any reputable bookstore
should carry them. Between pages 343 and 361 of The Messianic Legacy
you can read of the alliance of power that resulted in a secret world
government.
Most members of the Freemasons are not aware that the Illuminati
practices what is known as "secrets within secrets," or organizations
within organizations- That is one purpose of initiation. I cannot
excuse any of the members, however, or anyone who joins a society
without knowing everything about the organization is indeed a fool.
Only those at the top who have passed every test truly know what the
Masons are hiding, thus rendering it impossible for anyone outside to
know much at all about the group. What does that say about new members
or those who are already members but do not know the ultimate secrets?
It tells me that fools abound. Unlike authors who out of fear have
acted as apologists for the Freemasons, I decline to absolve them of
responsibility and guilt. The Freemasons, like everyone else, are
responsible for the cleanliness of their home. The occupant of a
secret house within a secret house within a secret house cannot clean
if he cannot see the number of rooms or what they contain. Their house
is a stinking cesspool. Look to the Masons for the guilty party if
anything happens to me. I believe that they have murdered in the past
and that they will murder in the future.
Their goal is to rule the world. The doctrine of this group is not
democracy or communism, but is a form of fascism. The doctrine is
totalitarian socialism. You must begin to think correctly. The
Illuminati are not Communists, but some Communists are Illuminati. (1)
Monarchism (thesis) faced democracy (antithesis) in WWI, which
resulted in the formation of communism and the League of Nations
(synthesis). (2) Democracy and communism (thesis) faced fascism
(antithesis) in WWII and resulted in a more powerful United Nations
(synthesis). (3) Capitalism (thesis) now faces communism (antithesis)
and the result will be the New World Order, totalitarian socialism
(synthesis).
The 1953 report of the California Senate Investigating Committee on
Education stated: "So-called modern Communism is apparently the same
hypocritical world conspiracy to destroy civilization that was founded
by the illuminati, and that raised its head in our colonies here at
the critical period before the adoption of our Constitution." The
California Senate understood that communism is the work of the
Illuminati. They failed to realize that the Council on Foreign
Relations and theTrilateral Commission are also the work of the
Illuminati. You MUST begin to think correctly. The enemy is not
communism, it is Illuminism. The Communists are not going to be much
happier with the New World Order than we.
I hope to show that most modern secret societies and especially those
that practice degrees of initiation, and that is the key, are really
one society with one purpose. You may call them whatever you wish--the
Order of the Quest, the JASON Society, the Roshaniya, the Qabbalah,
the Knights Templar, the Knights of Malta, the Knights of Columbus,
the Jesuits, the Masons, the Ancient and Mystical Order of Rosae
Crucis, the Illuminati, the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, the
Executive Members of the Council on Foreign Relations, The Group, the
Brotherhood of the Dragon, the Rosicrucians, the Royal Institute of
International Affairs, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg
Group, the Open Friendly Secret Society (the Vatican), the Russell
Trust, the Skull & Bones, the Scroll & Key, the Order--they are all
the same and all work toward the same ultimate goal, a New World
Order.
Many of them, however, disagree on exactly who will rule this New
World Order, and that is what causes them to sometimes pull in
opposite directions while nevertheless proceeding toward the same
goal. The Vatican, for instance, wants the Pope to head the world
coalition. Some want Lord Maitreya to head the New World Order. Lord
Maitreya is the front runner, I believe, since witnesses say he was
present on the ship at Malta with Bush, Gorbachev, and the ten
regional heads of the New World Order. "Approximately 200 dignitaries
from around the world attended a major conference initiated by
Maitreya in London on April 21 and 22,1990. Representatives of
governments (including the USA), members of royal families, religious
leaders and journalists, all of whom had met with Maitreya previously,
attended the conference." Quote from "Prophecy Watch" column of Whole
Wheat No. 8, Minneapolis.
Someone has also spent an awful lot of money announcing his presence.
The Pope will have to approve him if Maitreya is selected, however,
and that would fulfill the Bible prophecy in the Book of Revelation
that states that the first beast will be given his power by Rome. If
you can interpret Revelation as I can, then you know that the Pope
will ultimately win out and will reign as the second beast.
In 1952 an alliance was formed, bringing them all together for the
first time in history. The Black Families, the Illuminati (the Order),
the Vatican, and the Freemasons now work together to bring about the
New World Order. All will protest their innocence and will do
everything within their power to destroy anyone who suggests
otherwise. I will undoubtedly become a target when this book is
published.
You may notice that some of those listed in the preceding paragraphs
do not, or so it appears, practice degrees of initiation. That is the
public view. Look at the Council on Foreign Relations. Many
members--in fact, the majority--never serve on the executive
committees. They never go through any initiation of any kind. They
are, in fact, the power base and are used to gain a consensus of
opinion. The majority are not really members but are made to feel as
if they are. In reality they are being used and are unwilling or
unable to understand. The Executive Committee is an inner core of
intimate associates, members of a secret society called the Order of
the Quest, also known as the JASON Society, devoted to a common
purpose. The members are an outer circle on whom the inner core acts
by personal persuasion, patronage and social pressure. That is how
they bought Henry Kissinger. Rockefeller gave Kissinger a grant of
$50,000 in the early '50s, a fortune in those days, and made dear old
Henry a member of the CFR. Anyone in the outer circle who does not toe
the mark is summarily expelled and the lesson is not lost on those who
remain. Do you remember the human desire to be a member of the elect?
That is the principle at work.
The real power are men who are always recruited without exception from
the secret societies of Harvard and Yale known as the Skull & Bones
and the Scroll & Key. Both societies are secret branches (also called
the Brotherhood of Death) of what is otherwise historically known as
the Illuminati. They are connected to parent organizations in England
(The Group of Oxford University and especially All Souls College), and
Germany (the Thule Society, also called the Brotherhood of Death). I
learned this when I was with Naval Intelligence. I was not able to
explain why some members of the Executive Committee were not listed
under the "Addresses" of Chapter 322 of the Skull & Bones Society
until I read The Wise Men by Walter Isaacson & Evan Thomas, Simon and
Schuster, New York. Under illustration #9 in the center of the book
you will find the caption "Lovett with the Yale Unit, above far right,
and on the beach: His initiation into Skull and Bones came at an air
base near Dunkirk." I have found that members of these two societies
were chosen on an ongoing basis by invitation based upon merit
post-college and were not confined to only Harvard or Yale attendees.
Only members of the Order are initiated into the Order of the Quest,
the JASON Society that makes up the executive members of the Council
on Foreign Relations and, in fact, the Trilateral Commission as well.
The executive members of the Council on Foreign Relations are the real
elect in this country. George Bush is a member of the Order.
Surprised? You shouldn't be. His father was also a member who helped
finance Hitler.
It is important that you know that the members of the Order take an
oath that absolves them from any allegiance to any nation or king or
government or constitution, and that includes the negating of any
subsequent oath of allegiance which they may be required to take. They
swear allegiance only to the Order and its goal of a New World Order.
George Bush is not a loyal citizen of the United States but instead is
loyal only to the destruction of the United States and to the
formation of the New World Order. According to the oath Bush took when
he was initiated into Skull & Bones, his oath of office as President
of the United States of America means nothing.
The Trilateral Commission is an elite group of some 300 very prominent
business, political, and intellectual decision-makers of Western
Europe, North America, and Japan. This enterprise is a private agency
that works to build up political and economic cooperation among the
three regions. Its grand design, which it no longer hides, is a New
World Order.
The Trilateral Commission was the idea of its founder, American
banking magnate David Rockefeller. The real reason for its formation
was the decline of the Council on Foreign Relation's power as a result
of the people's dissatisfaction with the Vietnam War. The reasoning
behind the move toward the Trilateral Commission was the same as
entering two horses in the same race. It doubles the chances of
winning. The real power has always remained solidly in the hands of
the Council on Foreign Relations. The Rockefeller family was, is and
always will be the benefactor of both organizations. Rockefeller,
though powerful is not in control in this country or anywhere else.
The key to the REAL power is the fact that Rockefeller had to put out
feelers at a Bilderberg Group meeting in 1972 about forming a private
group of trilateral leaders. The Bilderberg Group gave the nod and
Rockefeller's man Zbigniew Brzezinski gathered up a membership and
organized the Trilateral Commission in 1972, not in 1973 as the
Commission claims.
A key to the danger presented by the Trilateral Commission is its
"Seminal Peace," written for them by Harvard Professor Samuel P.
Huntington in the mid '70s. In the paper Professor Huntington
recommended that democracy and economic development be discarded as
outdated ideas. He wrote as co-author of the book The Crisis of
Democracy, "We have come to recognize that there are potential
desirable limits to economic growth. There are also potentially
desirable limits to the indefinite extension of political democracy. A
government which lacks authority will have little ability short of
cataclysmic crisis to impose on its people the sacrifices which may be
necessary."
.....Remember that George Bush was a member of the Trilateral
Commission and only resigned as an expediency to get elected. He
believes wholeheartedly in the Commission and its ideas and ideals. We
have elected a President who believes that democracy and economic
development must be discarded- I tell you now that he is working
toward that end. Bush is still a member of the Order and the CFR.
The JASON Society, or JASON Scholars, takes its name from the story of
Jason and the Golden Fleece, and it is a branch of the Order of the
Quest, one of the highest degrees in the Illuminati. The golden fleece
takes on the role of truth to JASON members. Jason represents the
search for the truth. Therefore the name JASON Society denotes a group
of men who are engaged in a search for the truth. The name Jason is
spelled with capital letters when used as the name of the JASON
Society. Lower-case letters are never used when referring to this
secret group. The name may even have a deeper meaning, as the name
"Jason" and the Golden Fleece appear throughout history in relation to
various other secret societies. In these instances the story
represents man (Jason) lookingfor himself (Golden Fleece).
Top Secret documents that I read while with Naval Intelligence stated
that President Eisenhower had commissioned the JASON Society to
examine all of the evidence, facts, lies, and deception and find the
truth of the alien question.
Founders of the JASON Group (not the same as the JASON Society)
include members of the famous Manhattan Project, which brought
together almost every leading physicist in the nation to build the
atomic bomb during World War II. The group is made up mostly of
theoretical physicists and is the most elite gathering of scientific
minds in the United States. As of 1987 the membership included four
Nobel Prize winners. Today JASON continues to offer scientific help
the government cannot find anywhere else. They are probably the only
group of scientists in the United States that know the true state of
highest technology.
JASON is shrouded in what appears to be unnecessary secrecy. The group
refuses to release its membership list. None of the members list JASON
membership on their official resumes. Working completely behind the
scenes, JASON has guided the nation's most important security
decisions. These include, but are not limited to, Star Wars, submarine
warfare, and predictions about the greenhouse effect. The JASON
members are each paid a $500 per-day consultant's fee.
In the documents that I read while with Naval Intelligence the JASONS
predicted that the greenhouse effect would lead ultimately to an ICE
AGE.
According to the Pentagon, the JASONS hold the highest and most
restrictive security clearances in the nation. They are given the
protocol rank of rear admiral (two stars) when they visit or travel
aboard ships or visit military bases. The only other reference to the
JASON group that I have been able to find is in The Pentagon Papers.
The papers stated that JASON was responsible for designing the
electronic barrier between North and South Vietnam for the purpose of
sealing off infiltration of the South by North Vietnamese regulars
during the Vietnam War. I was stationed on the DMZ and I can tell you
that it did not work.
The veil of secrecy drawn around the JASON Group has been so tight and
so leak-proof since its conception that those who think the government
cannot keep a secret need to reexamine that position. The government
was able to contain the JASON secret except for the one leak; but the
JASON Group itself, a civilian group, did even better. No leaks have
ever occurred from within JASON. JASON is administered by the Mitre
Corporation Government contracts allotted to the Mitre Corporation are
in reality allotted to the JASON scientists. This is done so that the
name JASON does not ever appear in documents which may come under
public scrutiny.
What is the difference between the JASON Scholars or JASON Society and
the JASON Group? The documents that I read referred to the JASON
Society in exactly those words. In public documents the only JASON
reference is to the JASON Group, administered by the Mitre
Corporation. I believe the JASON Society is one of the highest degrees
above the Skull & Bones and the Scroll & Key in the Illuminati. In
other words, it is a higher level of initiation. The JASON Group is a
scientific organization formed and hired by the JASON Society and the
U.S. Government for obvious reasons.
I know a lot more about the JASON Society and the JASON Group, but I
do not want to injure Mr. Grant Cameron, who has done extensive
research on these subjects. He will publish his research in the coming
months. I guarantee his findings will amaze you.
The Council on Foreign Relations has been the foremost flank of
America's foreign-policy establishment for more than half a century.
The Council on Foreign Relations is a private organization of business
executives, scholars, and political leaders that studies global
problems and play a key role in developing U.S. foreign policy. The
CFR is one of the most powerful semi-offlcial groups concerned with
America's role in international affairs. It is controlled by an elect
group of men recruited from the Skull & Bones and the Scroll & Key
societies of Harvard and Yale, which are both chapters of a secret
branch of the Illuminati known as Chapter 322 of the Order. The
members of the Order make up the Executive Committee of the Council on
Foreign Relations after undergoing initiation into the Order of the
Quest, also known as the JASON Society.
The Council on Foreign Relations is an off-shoot sister organization
to the British Royal Institute of International Affairs. Their goal is
a New World Order. Although it existed as a dinner dub in New York, it
did not take on its present power until 1921, when it merged with the
Royal Institute of International Affairs and received its financial
base from J.P. Morgan, the Carnegie Endowment, the Rockefeller family,
and other Wall Street banking interests.
The Council on Foreign Relations controls our government. Through the
years its members have infiltrated the entire executive branch, State
Department, Justice Department, CIA, and the top ranks of the
military. Every director of the Central Intelligence Agency has been a
member of the CFR. Most presidents since Roosevelt have been members.
The members of the CFR dominate ownership of the press and most, if
not all, of America's top journalists are members. The CFR does not
conform to government policy. The government conforms to CFR policy.
I read Top Secret documents while with Naval Intelligence that stated
that President Eisenhower had appointed six of the Executive Committee
members of the CFR to sit on the panel called Majesty Twelve also
known as Majority Twelve for security reasons. Majesty Twelve is the
secret group that is supposed to control extraterrestrial information
and projects. The documents stated that Eisenhower had also appointed
six members from the Executive branch of government who were also
members of the CFR. The total membership of Majesty Twelve was
nineteen, including Dr. Edward Teller and the six members from the
JASON scientific group. Again, whether this is true or disinformation
depends solely upon the existence of aliens.
The Knights of Malta play a powerful role in this scenario. In the
1930's General Smedley Butler was recruited to help take over the
White House. He was told that he was needed because of his general
popularity with the military. General Butler blew the whistle and
named several prominent Americans as part of the plot. At the top of
the list was John J. Raskob, who was a founding member of the U.S.
branch of the Knights of Malta. He was board chairman of General
Motors. He was, at he time, the U.S. Treasurer of the Knights of
Malta. Congressional hearings were held to investigate the plot, but
none of those named, induding Raskob, was ever called to testify and
nothing ever came of the hearings. Although you will find this in the
Congressional records, you will never find it in any history book
anywhere.
It is significant that the Iran-Contra episode has many similarities
to the 1930s plot. William Casey was a member of the Knights of Malta.
William Casey, with the help of Vice President Bush, Anne Armstrong
and Donald Regan, caused the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory
Board to be emasculated so that Bush, Casey, North and others could
carry out their dirty deeds without oversight. They had also developed
a plan to suspend the Constitution of the United States and were
preparing to implement the plan when they were caught. These facts
emerged from the hearings but were suppressed by the committee
chairman, Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii. You must understand that
tremendous power was involved in both attempts to overthrow the United
States Government.
William Casey was the Director of the CIA. He was a member of the CFR.
Casey was a Knight of Malta. He was the head of Ronald Reagan's
political campaign. He was head of the Securities and Exchange
Commission. During the Nixon administration he was head of the
Export-Import Bank.
Casey arranged financing for the Kama River truck factory in the
Soviet Union with 90% of the funds guaranteed or furnished by the U.S.
taxpayer. This factory built military truck and tank engines for the
Soviet Army. It was, and may still be, the largest factory in the
world and could produce more heavy trucks than all U.S. factories
together. I believe Casey was murdered.
The Knights of Malta is a world organization with its threads weaving
through business, banking, politics, the CIA, other intelligence
organizations, P2, religion, education, law, military, think tanks,
foundations, the United States Information Agency, the United Nations,
and numerous other organizations. They are not the oldest but are one
of the oldest branches of the Order of the Quest in existence. The
world head of the Knights of Malta is elected for a life term, with
the approval of the Pope. The Knights of Malta have their own
Constitution and are sworn to work toward the establishment of a New
World Order with the Pope at its head. Knights of Malta members are
also powerful members of the CFR and the Trilateral Commission.
The Vatican has been infiltrated over many years by the Illuminati.
This is easily proven by the fact that in 1738 Pope Clement XII issued
a Papal Bull which stated that any Catholic who became a Mason would
be excommunicated, a very serious punishment. In 1884 Pope Leo XIII
issued a proclamation stating that Masonry was one of the secret
societies attempting to "revive the manners and customs of the pagans"
and "establish Satan's kingdom on Earth." Piers Compton, in his book
The Broken Cross, traces the infiltration of the Catholic Church by
the Illuminati. He has found the use of the all-seeing eye in the
triangle by leading Catholics and by the Jesuits. It was used in the
seal of the Philadelphia Eucharistic Congress in 1976. It was on a
special issue of Vatican stamps in 1978, announcing the final
Illuminati victory to the world. Mr. Compton claims that Pope John
XXIII wore the "all-seeing eye in the triangle" on his personal cross.
Compton is adamant that several hundred leading Catholic priests,
bishops and cardinals are members of secret societies. He quotes an
article in an Italian Journal that lists more than 70 Vatican
offlcials, including Pope Paul VI's private secretary, the director
general of Vatican radio, the Archbishop of Florence, the prelate of
Milan, the assistant editor of the Vatican newspaper, several Italian
bishops, and the abbot of the Order of St. Benedict. Those are only
the ones that are known and only the ones known in Italy. It is widely
believed that this Pope, John Paul XXII, is a member of the
Illuminati. I believe, according to my research, that it is true. The
best indication of infiltration is that on November 27,1983, the Pope
retracted all of the Papal Bulls against Freemasonry and allowed
Catholics, after several hundred years, to again become members of
secret societies without fear of excommunication. The goal of the
Illuminati to elect one of their own to the Papacy appears to have
come to fruition. If that is the case, the New World Order is just on
the horizon. Now is the time.
The first U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican was William Wilson, a Knight
of Malta. His appointment was probably illegal and, for a fact, was
highly unethical. Wilson could not possibly have represented the U.S.
when his allegiance was sworn to the Pope.
Wilson, if you will remember, took an unauthorized trip to Libya and
met privately with Libyan offlcials at a time when travel to Libya had
been banned by the President. President Ronald Reagan had called Col.
Khadafi "a mad dog" and made a few strong threats. The U.S. had been
resolute in bombing Libya even though civilians were killed. Following
Wilson's trip, Khadafi issued a press release stating that "an
American diplomat had been sent to reduce tensions with Libya." The
State Department denied that any such thing had taken place.
Ambassador Wilson closed his mouth and refused any comment. To this
day he has said nothing, even though his actions made a liar of the
United States and embarrassed us worldwide.
A due to what was happening is the fact that while we had cut off
Libya and even bombed them and while travel by U.S. citizens to Libya
was forbidden, five huge oil conglomerates were filling their pockets
dealing with Khadafi. One of the companies was headed by J. Peter
Grace, President of W.R. Grace. Eight members of the W.R. Grace
Company are members of the Knights of Malta. According to an article
by Leslie Geld in the New York Times, administration officials had
expressed concern about Mr. Wilson's activities. These actions, they
said, often seem to revolve around his contacts and interest in the
oil business.
Wilson should have been fired, but instead nothing happened except
that he and his wife attended a Papal Easter Mass and stood next to
George Schultz and his wife. In diplomatic language this indicated
private approval of his actions. George Schultz, of course, is a
member of the CFR, the Bohemian Club and the Bechtel Corporation, all
of which have close ties to the Order and the Knights of Malta.
Wilson engaged in several other improprieties during his
ambassadorship. Again, in each case nothing happened. Finally he
resigned. Later, if you will remember, President Reagan suffered a
fall from a horse on William Wilson's ranch in Mexico. Do you
seriously think that President Reagan would have visited Wilson's home
in Mexico if he had not approved of Wilson's actions while he was the
U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican?
Knight of Malta Myron Taylor was President Roosevelt's envoy. Knight
of Malta John McCone was President Kennedy's envoy and he was also the
Director of the CIA during the early '60s. A former mayor of New York
City, Robert Wagner, was President Jimmy Carter's envoy. Frank
Shakespeare replaced William Wilson. Frank Shakespeare is a Knight of
Malta, and so it goes. President Reagan spoke at the annual Knights of
Malta dinner.
The Knights of Malta all have diplomatic immunity. They can ship goods
across borders without paying duty or undergoing customs check Does
that ring any bells? In any case, that is power.
The Knights of Malta is held up by a backbone consisting of nobility.
Nearly half of the 10,000 members belong to Europe's oldest and most
powerful families. This cements the alliance between the Vatican and
the "Black Nobility." The Black Nobility is mostly the rich and
powerful of Europe. The head of the Black Nobility is the family that
can claim direct descendancy from the last Roman emperor. Maybe now
you can see that things are beginning to fall into their proper place.
Membership in the Knights of Malta entails obedience to one's superior
in The Order and ultimately to the Pope. Therefore, a U.S. ambassador
who is also a member of the Knights of Malta faces a conflict of
interest. Why is this fact ignored? President Bush appointed Knight of
Malta Thomas Melledy to the post of U.S. Ambassador to the Vatican.
The Vatican has founded the Pope John Paul II Center for Prayer and
Study for Peace at 1711 Ocean Avenue, Springlake, New Jersey, in a
mansion overlooking the ocean. The mansion was given to the New York
Archdiocese by the estate of Elmer Bobst, who died in 1978. He was a
multimillionaire and chairman of Warner Lambert Company. Richard Nixon
was a frequent visitor. Directors of the Center were Kurt Waldheim,
former Secretary General of the United Nations and ex-nazi war
criminal; Cyrus Vance, former Secretary of State under Carter and
member of both the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral
Commission; Clare Booth Luce, a dame of the Knights of Malta; and J.
Peter Grace of W.R. Grace Company, who is head of the Knights of Malta
in the United States.
The Center was set up by the Vatican as a part of the Pope's new peace
plan, which will bring the world together. The Center has two roles:
(1) Educate Catholics and their children to accept the New World
Order. (2) Provide residence for the world-peace-solution computer and
an ongoing study for peaceful solutions to any future problems which
may endanger world peace. The computer is hooked to the world capitals
via satellite. All nations have agreed to relinquish sovereignty to
the Pope and submit future problems to the computer for solution. Of
course, this will not go into effect until the New World Order is
publicly announced. I believe that the New World Order was born in
secrecy on January 19,1989. Now you know.
The Vatican has stated at various times that "the Pope is for total
disarmament; the Pope is for elimination of the sovereignty of the
nation states; the Pope is also stating that property rights are not
to be considered true property rights. The Pope believes that only the
Vatican knows what is right for man."
In the early 1940s, the I.G. Farben Chemical Company employed a Polish
salesman who sold cyanide to the Nazis for use in Auschwitz. The same
salesman also worked as a chemist in the manufacture of the poison
gas. This same cyanide gas along with Zyklon B and malathion was used
to exterminate millions of Jews and other groups. Their bodies were
then burned to ashes in the ovens. After the war the salesman, fearing
for his llfe, joined the Catholic Church and was ordained a priest in
1946. One of his closest friends was Dr. Wolf Szmuness, the mastermind
behind the November/78 to October/79 and March/80 to October/81
experimental hepatitis B vaccine trials conducted by the Center for
Disease Control in New York, San Francisco and four other American
cities that loosed the plague of AIDS upon the American people. The
salesman was ordained Poland's youngest bishop in 1958. After a 30-day
reign his predecessor was assassinated and our ex-cyanide gas salesman
assumed the papacy as Pope John Paul II.
1990 is the right time with the right leaders: ex-chief of the KGB
Mikhail Gorbachev, ex-chief of the CIA George Bush, ex-Nazi cyanide
gas salesman Pope John Paul II, all bound by an unholy alliance to
ring in the New World Order.
The Pope has challenged world leaders by claiming that the people of
the world already recognize the absolute authority of Rome because
they observe the Sunday Sabbath that was ordered by the Pope in the
Council of Laodicea (A.D. 364). The original Ten Commandments given to
Moses ordered that we should: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it
Holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work but the seventh
day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt not do any
work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter,thy man servant, nor thy
maid servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy
gates: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and
all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord
blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."
The seventh day, the Sabbath as handed to Moses is Saturday. The
celebration of Sunday as the Sabbath is verification that the people
recognize the Pope as superior to God. The only whole people who have
not recognized the authority of the Pope are the Jewish people, and
that is why the Vatican has not and will not recognize the state of
Israel. The Vatican refuses even to call it Israel. Instead the
Vatican says Palestine when talking about Israel. Again, I must remind
you that what you believe makes not one bit of difference. The
important thing to understand is that if they believe this, it is
going to give you nightmares.
"The Pope has a lot of charisma and in a one world system you need a
religious head for power. Khomeini proved that. This Pope has enough
following and charisma to make what we consider a great threat in this
move." [Quote from The Mantooth Report]
"Pope John Paul II is most anxious to complete his goal. His goal is
to reunite the Christian World under the leadership of the papacy. If
at all possible, he hopes to reach his goal by the end of this
century. This is the primary reason behind the Pope's many worldwide
trips." [From an article by Gene H. Hogberg, Nov./Dec. 1989, Plain
Truth.]
Were you aware that Hitler and his entire staff were Catholic? Did you
know that the Nazis dabbled in the occult? Did you know that the New
York Times of April 14, 1990, quotes George Bush as stating, "Let's
forgive the Nazi war criminals." I wonder why he said that? Did you
know that the Los Angeles Times December 12, 1984, quoted Pope John
Paul II as saying, "Don't go to God for forgiveness of sins, come to
me." The Pope committed blasphemy, thus fulfilling prophecy according
to the book of Revelation. The Pope is telling us that he is God!
Remember, never worship a leader. If you worship a leader, you then no
longer have the ability to recognize when you have been deceived!
On July 21, 1773, Pope Clement XIV "forever annulled and extingutshed
the Jesuit Order." France, Spain and Portugal had independently come
to realize that the Jesuits were meddling in the affairs of the state
and were therefore enemies of the government. The Pope's action was a
response to pressure applied by the monarchies. King Joseph of
Portugal signed a decree "by which the Jesuits were denounced as
'traitors, rebels and enemies to the realm..."' Pope Pius VII in
August, 1814, reinstated the Jesuits to all of their former rights and
privileges.
Ex-President John Adams wrote to his successor, Thomas Jefferson: "I
do not like the reappearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body
of men who merited eternal damnation on earth...it is this
Society...." Jefferson
replied: "Like you, I disapprove of the restoration of the Jesuits,
for it means a step backwards from light into darkness."
The Jesuits are still in trouble today as they have been throughout
their existence. On February 28,1982, Pope Paul II told the Jesuits to
"keep dear of politics, and honor Roman Catholic tradition." U.S. News
and World Report stated that the Jesuits had indeed meddled in the
affairs of nations. The article stated: "Jesuits have played leading
roles in Nicaragua's Sandinista revolution. Some Jesuits have joined
Communist parties. One priest in El Salvador has claimed that his
order is working for the advancement of Marxism and revolution, not
for God....Jesuits have joined left wing rebel movements in Central
America and the Philippines, and have advocated a melding of Marxism
and Roman Catholicism in what is called 'liberation theology."'
When the United States wanted to employ the nastiest forms of the
Haig-Kissinger depopulation policy in Central America it was the
Jesuits who organized and prodded the people into civil war. Wherever
the Jesuits go, revolution quickly follows. I am always sad when I see
or hear of people being hurt; but according to my research, the Jesuit
priests murdered in Central America probably deserved it.
The most powerful secret organization in the world is the Bilderberg
Group, organized in 1952 and named after the hotel where its first
meeting took place in 1954. The man who organized the Bilderberg
Group, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, has the power to veto the
Vatican's choice of any Pope it selects. Prince Bernhard has this veto
power because his family, the Hapsburgs, are desended from the Roman
emperors. Prince Bernhard is the leader of the Black Families. He
claims descent from the House of David and thus can truly say that he
is related to Jesus. Prince Bernhard, with the help of the CIA,
brought the hidden ruling body of the Illuminati into public knowledge
as the Bilderberg Group. This is the official alliance that makes up
the world governing body.
The core of the organization is three committees made up of thirteen
members each. Thus the heart of the Bilderberg Group consists of 39
total members of the Illuminati. The three committees are made up
exclusively of members of all the different secret groups that make up
the Illuminati, the Freemasons, the Vatican, and the Black Nobility.
This committee works year round in offices in Switzerland. It
determines who is invited to the annual meeting and what policies and
plans will be discussed. Every proposal or plan that has ever been
discussed at an annual meeting of the Bilderberg Group has come to
pass usually within one or two years following the meeting. The
Bilderberg Group is directing the "quiet war" that ls being waged
against us. How can they do it? These are the men who really rule the
world.
The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 39 and any multiple of these numbers have
special meaning to the Illuminati. Notice that the Bilderberg Group
has core of 39 members who are broken into 3 groups of 13 members in
each group. Notice that the core of 39 answers to the 13 who make up
the Policy Committee. Take special notice that the 13 members of the
Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine. You know that the
original number of states in the United States of America was 13. The
Constitution has 7 articles and was signed by 39 members of the
Constitutional Convention.
The United States was born on July 4, 1776. July is the 7th month of
the year. Add 7 (for July) and 4 and you have 11; 1+7+7+6 = 21, which
is a multlple of 3 and 7. Add 2+1 and you get 3. Look at the numbers
in 1776 and you see two 7s and a 6, which is a multiple of 3.
Coincidence, you say? For those of you who still say it's accidental,
however, I offer the following evidence I could write a book just on
numerical links, but I won't.
Manly P. Hall, 33rd-degree Mason, probably the most renowned expert on
these subjects, wrote in his book The Secret Destiny of America, "For
more than three thousand years, secret societies have labored to
create the background of knowledge necessary to the establishment of
an enlightened democracy among the nations of the world...all have
continued...and they still exist, as the Order of the Quest. Men bound
by a secret oath to labor in the cause of world democracy decided that
in the American colonies they would plan the roots of a new way of
life. The Order of the Quest...was set up in America before the middle
of the 17th century....Franklin spoke for the Order of the Quest, and
most of the men who worked with him in the early days of the American
Republic were also members....Not only were many of the founders of
the United States Government Masons, but they received aid from a
secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to
establish this country for a particular purpose known only to the
initiated few." I found these quotes in a book on page 133. When added
together, 1+3+3 equal the number 7--coincidence?
We can get a little insight into the Order of the Quest from Franklin
D. Roosevelt's Secretary of Agriculture, Henry Wallace, the man
directly responsible for the printing of the reverse of the Great Seal
of the United States on the one-dollar bill. Mr. Wallace, a member of
the Order of the Quest, wrote in a letter to the Russian mystic and
artist Nicholas Roerich: "The Seach, whether it be for the lost word
of Masonry, or the Holy Chalice, or the potentialities of the age to
come, is the one supremely worthwhile objective. All else is karmic
duty. But surely everyone is a potential Galahad? So may we strive for
the Chalice and the flame above it." The Holy Grail has a way of
popping up on a regular basis in the writings of secret societies.
In the Great Seal of the United States we see the ancient symbol of
the Brotherhood of the Snake (or Dragon), which as you already know is
the all seeing eye in the pyramid representing the form of wisdom.
Just below the pyramid you will note "Novus Ordo Seclorum" which
translated means, "New World Order" There are:
9 tail feathers on the eagle;
13 leaves in the olive branches;
13 bars and stripes;
13 arrows;
13 letters in "E Pluribus Unum;
13 stars in the green crest above;
13 stones in the pyramid;
13 letters in "Annuit Coeptis"
All of these mystical numbers also have special meaning to the
Freemasons. You would have to be a devout skeptic to miss the
tremendous significance of all of these supposed coincidences. Who
among you can still say that there is no link?
I read while in Naval Intelligence that at least once a year, maybe
more, two nuclear submarines meet beneath the polar icecap and mate
together at an airlock. Representatives of the Soviet Union meet with
the Policy Committee of the Bilderberg Group. The Russians are given
the script for their next performance. Items on the agenda include the
combined efforts in the secret space program governing Alternative 3.
I now have in my possession offlcial NASA photographs of a moonbase in
the crater Copernicus.
This method of meeting is the only way that is safe from detection
and/or bugging. The public outcry that would result would destroy
everything should these meetings be discovered. A BBC-TV documentary
program entitled "Science Report" revealed these same facts but
subsequently issued a retraction. In their retraction they stated that
the show had been fiction. It must be noted here that "Science Report"
was a very respected documentary, nonfiction program in Britain.
Never in its history had it ever aired fiction. This subject is
explored in depth in another chapter. There is no other method that I
know of to verify these meetings short of somehow becoming a crew
member on one of the submarines. Is Alternative 3 true, or is it a
part of the plan to ring in the New World Order? It really doesn't
matter, because either way we're screwed. The quicker you understand
that, the wiser you become.
The members of the Bilderberg Group are the most powerful financiers,
industrialists, statesmen and intellectuals, who get together each
year for a private conference on world affairs. The meetings provide
an informal, off-the-record opportunity for international leaders to
mingle, and are notorious for the cloak of secrecy they are held
under. The headquarters office is in The Hague in Switzerland, the
only European country never invaded or bombed during World Wars I and
II. Switzerland is the seat of world power. The goal of the Bilderberg
Group is a one-world totalitarian socialist government and economic
system. Take heed, as time is running short.
You must understand that secrecy is wrong. The very fact that a
meeting is secret tells me that something is going on that I would not
approve. Do not ever believe that grown men meet on a regular basis
just to put on fancy robes, hold candles, and glad-hand each other.
George Bush, when he was initiated into the Skull & Bones, did not lie
naked in a coffin with a ribbon tied around his genitalia and yell out
the details of all his sexual experiences because it was fun. He had
much to gain by accepting initiation into the Order, as you can now
see. These men meet for important reasons, and their meetings are
secret because what goes on during the meetings would not be approved
by the community. The very fact that something is secret means there
is something to hide.
John Robison wrote Proofs of a Conspiracy in 1798, and I believe he
said it best in the following passage from the book. "Nothing is so
dangerous as a mystic Association. The object remaining a secret in
the hands of the managers, the rest simply put a ring in their own
noses, by which they may be led about at pleasure; and still panting
after the secret they are the better pleased the less they see of
their way. A mystical object enables the leader to shift his ground as
he pleases, and to accommodate himself to every current fashion or
prejudice. This again gives him almost unlimited power; for he can
make use of these prejudices to lead men by troops. He finds them
already associated by their prejudices, and waiting for a leader to
concentrate their strength and set them in motion. And when once great
bodies of men are set in motion, with a creature of their fancy for a
guide, even the engineer himself cannot say, 'Thus far shalt thou go,
and no farther.'"
Is the common man really as stupid as the elite seem to believe? If he
is, then maybe the average citizen is better off ignorant, being
manipulated this way and that, whenever the elite deem it necessary.
We will discover the answer very quickly when the common man finds
that his ticket to Fantasy Land has just expired.
U.S. President Bush and Soviet President Gorbachev arrived yesterday
on this Mediterranean island for a summit conference beginning today
during which both hope to start the search for a New World Order."
-New York Times December 1, 1989
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PA News Center-- UK-- MASONS TOLD TO NAME SCANDAL POLICE
The leadership of Britain's freemasons was ordered by MPs to hand over
the names of members involved in a series of police scandals - or face
a charge of contempt of Parliament.
The Commons home affairs committee took the rare step of issuing a
formal order for the release of the information after officials of the
United Grand Lodge refused to give up the names at a bad-tempered
hearing at Westminster.
Committee chairman, Labour MP Chris Mullin, said the lodge would have
14 days to respond once it had received formal notification of the
order from the Commons Serjeant at Arms.
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REPORT OF FREEMASONRY IN BAPTIST CHURCHES
Subj: Re: Strange Birds....Freemasons All...
Date: 98-05-17 08:11:31 EDT
From: kka...@texas.net
To: Stev...@aol.com (Steve VanN)
I know. When I first got saved, I joined a Southern Baptist church in
our area. As I grew in the Lord, I discovered that Freemasons were
wicked as hell itself. One Sunday, a man that I knew was a Freemason
came forward to join the church. A quick show of hands, and he was in.
He was never even required to give his testimony, and I approched him
after the service. I said, "Well, I'm afraid that I missed your
testimony about when you got saved... was it recently?" He just glared
at me. The pastor heard the whole conversation. I asked him later in
the foyer why he let a known Freemason join the church, without even a
simple testimony of salvation. The question staggered him! He actually
had to grab the support of the doorway to the sanctuary to support
himself. When he recovered, he started to point out men in the church
and say, "he's a mason, he's a mason, and brother so-and-so is a
mason."
Needless to say, the Lord opened my eyes to that foolishness, and we
left soon afterwards. At about this time, I had just discovered the
fact that the KJV was God's inerrant word in English, and of course
this "Pastor" read all the versions. We soon left and found a good
independent Baptist church and have been there ever since. A few years
later, that "Pastor" left his wife and ran away with some dame and a
couple years after that a lightning bold, during a thunderstorm, hit
their "church" and burned it to the ground. Absolutely burned it to
the slab. I have since discovered that most Southern Baptist churches
in our area tolerate Freemasonry and most of them read all the devil's
so-called bible versions.
-Karl
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Subj: masons + temenos associates inc
Date: 97-08-17 00:51:11 EDT
From: _____@__________.org (Dave)
1. Thanks for helping to expose the masons. My girlfriend was raped a
few years ago in Mississippi. She knew the guy and he told her not to
bother telling because he and the police chief were both masons and
nothing would happen. I asked the masons for help on the newsgroup and
they did nothing except to joke with my plea and say it was a fake
story to try and destroy them
Steve
JB
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> This is not a game. You said I was hateful because I am
> denying homosexuals the right to marry. I am not. They have
> the same rights you and I have in this country (if you are an
> American).
>
> They want the right to change the definition of marriage in
> the constitution.
>
This is obviously a game to you as you insist on playing slimy, silly
word games. Is your opinion so unworthy that you don't find you can
address it directly without coy smirks on your face? Were you so
afraid of your opinion you had to lie by omission? (I assume you
weren't so slow as to really be confused by what Hammond actually
meant).
Which part of the US Constitution specifically bans two homosexuals
getting married?
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Frank Trebor
"Gene Goldman" <br_...@pacbell.dot.net> wrote...
> Brenda G. Kent wrote:
> > Maz said:
> > marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
> > family.
> So are you saying that an infertle couple, or one who can or will never
> have children should not be entitled to marry?
Your response is typical of your satanis nature in
twisting words to your idiotic masonic ends
< heaps of masonic s**t snipped >
> And in case I don't see ya' - Good Afternoon, Good Evening and Good Night!
Haere ra
Ninure Saunders
There is no translation of the Bible which translates the word which
the KJV rendered as "sodomite", with the word "homosexual". Modern
translations typically render it as "male temple prostitute", or words
to the same effect. It loses its clarity when translated into
the modern English word "sodomite", as it would lose its clarity
when translated into the modern English word "homosexual." If you
think it means "someone who commits sodomy in the sense defined thirty
centuries later by Merriam-Webster's unabridged", it is up to you
to do some heavy explaining:
(1) To explain why those who carry out 'noncoital carnal copulation
with a member of the opposite sex' are called "holy ones" in the Bible.
(Don't take my word for it. Check your Strong's 6945 and 6948.)
(2) To explain why the feminine form of the very same word,
"qadeshah", was translated as "whore" by the KJV translators, rather
than as "woman sodomite" or as "woman engaging in noncoital carnal
copulation".
(3) To explain why the biblical scholars, all of them as
disapproving of homosexuality as you are, were all wrong when they
translated Deuteronomy 23:17 this way:
"No Israelite man or woman may ever become a temple prostitute." NLT
"None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, nor
shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult prostitute" NASB
"There shall be no cult prostitute of the daughters of Israel, neither
shall there be a cult prostitute of the sons of Israel." RSV
"There is not a whore among the daughters of Israel, nor is there a
whoremonger among the sons of Israel." Young's
I could go on, but you get the idea.
> This is just one example of
> how God's Word gets watered down from it's original intent.
Your post is just one example of how people who don't have the foggiest
understanding of what is actually in the original Hebrew wind up
with, when they mistake their own personal prejudices and ignorance
for "God's Word." Your intent is to prove your masculinity by
showing how much you despise gays. You confuse that with God's intent.
In order to learn the original intent of God's Word, you have to actually
learn what it says. This you have not bothered to do. Following the
prejudices planted in you by human beings is less intellectually demanding,
so you do that instead.
Unfortunately, you have a ton of company. And that makes you feel
so secure in your ignorance, that even now you will most likely not
bother to sit down and study. But I hope you do.
> It gives place to those who would mishandle God's Word and pervert it for
> their own purpose. And there will a judgement upon them. But, it doesn't
> stop them from trying.
Ipse dixit.
--
Royce Buehler bue...@space.mit.edu
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Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:30:28 GMT,
RainbowChri...@Rainbow-Christian.tk (Ninure
Saunders) screamed out:
More of the homosexual lying machine.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"Were they ashamed when they made an abomination?
They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know
to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall.
At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down,
says Jehovah." - Jeremiah 6:15
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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"When we descend to details we can prove that no one
species has changed (i.e., we cannot prove that a
single species has changed): nor can we prove that
the supposed changes are beneficial, which is the
groundwork of the theory. Nor can we explain why
some species have changed and others have not.
The latter case seems to me hardly more difficult
to understand precisely and in detail than the former
case of supposed change" - Darwin, 1863.
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Ah now that's the sort of reasoned argument, sensible fact finding
and clever repudiating I've come to expect from...well... you.
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Bob
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ntreh0142ofku7ldg...@4ax.com...
They have apparently put it on Autopilot, without noting that they have
set the controls for the heart of the Sun.
Bob<><
Pastor Dave
<masoni...@btinternet.com> screamed out:
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>> More of the homosexual lying machine.
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>
>
>Ah now that's the sort of reasoned argument, sensible fact finding
>and clever repudiating I've come to expect from...well... you.
She has been refuted time and time again.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"Were they ashamed when they made an abomination?
They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know
to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall.
At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down,
says Jehovah." - Jeremiah 6:15
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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"The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology
and biology is thus in the peculiar position of
being a science founded on an unproved theory.
Is it then science, or faith? Belief in the
theory of evolution is thus exactly parallel to
belief in special creation. Both are concepts
which believers know to be true, but neither,
up to the present, has been capable of proof.
- L. Harrison Matthews, FRS, Introduction to
the 1971 edition of Charles Darwin's Origin
of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or
the Preservation of Favored Races in the
Struggle for Life
SteveZ176
WICCA AND SATANISM
Are they really totally unrelated as Wiccans claim?
We have been receiving threats from Wicca of litigation and prophecies
of our death.
What is the problem?
Answer: One thing alone--
Our contention that Satan is the lord and master and object of worship
of Wicca.
Wicca, an ancient offshoot of witchcraft and Druidism,
claims they have nothing to do with Satan.
So, here is the reason we say that Wicca's god is Satan,
according to the King James Bible.
Jesus speaks to the Pharisees,
but He speaks to ALL men and women
who reject His exclusive Lordship over them.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your
father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not
in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a
lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The nature of Satan as a murderer is seen in witchcraft's and Wicca's
practice of sacrificing animals and babies.
Can Wiccans and Satanists dream up doctrines
which look religious and give them self-confidence in rejecting Jesus?
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart (of man) is deceitful above all things, and
desperately wicked: who can know it?
Where did the first Satanic doctrine hatch?
Eve had listened to Satan as he tempted her to sin against God. She
rebelled and ate the fruit, just as Wiccans and Satanists have done
today. Thus, God said there would be enmity between God's seed-people
and Satan's seed-people from then on until the earth was destroyed in
the future.
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and
between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou
shalt bruise his heel.
The evil men who are the seed of Satan are defined by Jesus much
later.
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children
of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of
the world; and the reapers are the angels.
:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather
out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing
and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of
their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
There is NO gray area. Either men are good seed, or they are tare,
or weed, seed. The product of Satanic seed, whether Wiccans,
Satanists, or New Agers, will burn in hell. They are the same family.
There is no third way!
Note next that a sorcerer
(which is the King James Bible name for a witch--
still is for that matter) is a "child of the devil."
"The devil" is Satan in the Bible, and witches are his children.
Thus, any worship, whether to Mother Nature, Lucifer, Pan, Kali, The
"Blessed Virgin," Mithra, Shiva, Old Nick or any other stand in, is in
fact Satan worship, for Satan IS the devil.
Acts 13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by
interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from
the faith.
9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost,
set his eyes on him.
10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of
the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to
pervert the right ways of the Lord?
Thus, Sorcerer (witch) equals Child of The Devil (Satan).
Wiccans are not alone. ALL who reject Christ
as absolute Lord of their life are Satan worshipers in their heart.
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil
sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was
manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth
in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the
devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he
that loveth not his brother.
There are just two churches if you will-- The Church of Jesus Christ
and the church of Satan. No third way exists.
In the coming Great Tribulation
the wrath of God is poured out on all who rebel against God.
Note that they who have been punished severely by God six times still
hang onto four sins. "Sorceries," which is Wicca, along with Satanism
and witchcraft today, is one sin men WILL NOT give up.
Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these
plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should
not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and
stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor
of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
Those who reject the Lord Jesus Christ
as their sole Master are rebels,
and witchcraft is their religion.
That they call themselves Druids, Wiccans, Pagans, Cabbalists, or
Satanists is incidental and pointless. They are ALL witches by
religion.
1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and
stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected
the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
The familiar spirit below is NOT the spirit of God.
So, it is Satan.
There is no other spirit, contrary to the imaginations
of Satanists, Pagans, and Wiccans.
2 Chronicles 33:1 Manasseh was twelve years old when he began to
reign, and he reigned fifty and five years in Jerusalem:
2 But did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, like unto the
abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD had cast out before the
children of Israel.
3 For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father had
broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves, and
worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them.
4 Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof the LORD had
said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever.
5 And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of
the house of the LORD.
6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of
the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and
used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards:
he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to
anger.
7 And he set a carved image, the idol which he had made, in the house
of God, of which God had said to David and to Solomon his son, In this
house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen before all the tribes of
Israel, will I put my name for ever:
Note the associations Wiccans and Satanists
share in their cult of witchcraft.
There are only two masters, two religions, two doctrinal systems. No
amount of shuckin and jivin can alter this truth in God's Holy Word.
Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are
these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife,
seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the
which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that
they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the
affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Five "I Will" statements are made by Lucifer, who is Satan.
In the past, Satan was without sin, but sin was found in him, and his
five acts of rebellion were in the form of self-will assertion. The
number Five is associated with death in the Bible. Wicca, witchcraft,
and Satanism teach that you are to follow YOUR will. The only
distinction between Wicca and Satanism is that Wicca claims to
restrain the hurting of others. Ironically, many Wiccans have started
in the self-will God hatred only to progress on to Human and animal
sacrifice. They hate this truth being raised before their eyes, and
some Wiccans have actually deceived themselves into believing their
lies. So did Hitler, one of history's most famous witches and human
sacrifice gurus.
Isaiah 14:9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy
coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of
the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the
nations.
10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak
as we? art thou become like unto us?
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols:
the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how
art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I
will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the
mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the
most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Who was there supervising the fall from heaven of Satan?
Jesus was in charge for He was the creator of Satan.
Without Jesus was not anything made that was made. John 1
Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall
from heaven.
19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions,
and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means
hurt you.
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject
unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in
heaven.
Conclusion:
We now see that ALL who rebel against God and His Son, Jesus Christ,
are in the same religion. What THEY think they are is 100% beside the
point. Whether Wiccans, Hindus, Satanists, Nazis, Pagan, "Christian"
pagans, "Christian" witches, or just beer drinking generic rebels,
they are ALL members of the religion of Satan worship and Devil
worship. Their rebellion and self-exaltation is their choice by
default. They are full members of Satan's church, and they will spend
eternity with Satan covered with maggots and burning in flames. I
wish they would repent and turn to Jesus Christ as their absolute
Lord. It is beyond imagination what they will suffer for their
present choices. This is the definition given by the King James
Bible, which is the last and only authority on this subject.
Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be
blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence
of the Lord.
We are here to help you if you want to repent and be delivered from
this bondage.
Shalom.
Steve
Jani
Python's lumberjack sketch ...
Jani
"SteveZ176" <Stev...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Hammond of Texas
> Um, Steve, that's a parody site you're citing there. It's a *satire* on
> Christianity. If you can't tell the difference ... oh, dear.
>
> *chuckle*
>
> Jani
ROTFL
Ooh! Ow! Stop it, stop it! You just whacked my "irony bone" something
fierce. Hoo!
Ahem...
So somebody actually clicks on Steve's links, then. Hmm...
Hammond of Texas
quoted text) :
>>More of the homosexual lying machine.
>
>
> They have apparently put it on Autopilot, without noting that they have
> set the controls for the heart of the Sun.
> Bob<><
It is polite to cite the source of your quotes there, Bob.
Pink Floyd's gonna be pissed, and in case you missed it, the cover of
"Dark Side of the Moon" has a BIG Masonic symbol on it. You'd better
watch out.
Bill
Bravo
On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:38:22 GMT, SteveZ176 <Stev...@nospam.com>
wrote:
Maz
"Gene Goldman" <br_...@pacbell.dot.net> wrote in message
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> Brenda G. Kent wrote:
> > Maz said:
> >
> > No I am not in favor of gay marriages. ~My~ opinion is
that
> > marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
> > family.
>
> So are you saying that an infertle couple, or one who can or
will never
> have children should not be entitled to marry?
No.
Maz
> In article
<UOBRc.44010$zc4.17...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
> Ma...@optonline.net says...
> > This is not a game.
>
> I agree. So why do you treat it like one?
>
> > You said I was hateful because I am
> > denying homosexuals the right to marry. I am not. They
have
> > the same rights you and I have in this country (if you are
an
> > American).
> >
> > They want the right to change the definition of marriage
in
> > the constitution.
> > You didn't ask me if I was in favor of gay marriages. You
> > stated I was denying homosexuals the right to marry.
>
> This disingenuous trick is childish in the extreme. You knew
full well
> what the we were talking about.
That was not a trick. You accused me of denying gays the right
to marry.
I don't deny gays the right to anything other than say that
homosexuality is not a sin in the eyes of God. I deny that
because the bible tells me so. If you want I"ll show you the
verses.
I knew full well what I was talking about. I've been witness
to how often gays say their civil liberties are being denied.
You are being their dupe as well. Their civil liberties are
not being denied them. That was my point. They are not being
denied of any right that you or I have.
They want the right to change the definition of marriage in
the constitution. I don't think they should have that right,
but that is only what I think. A vote will be taken and the
population will decide.
> You claim to want respect, and then act like this?
Act like what? By my using my civil liberty to speak my
opinion about gay marriages. You are trying to deny me my
civil rights by calling me hateful and a bigot and an
anti-semetic.
I can see who has the problem here.
I haven't called you one name, but you just keep on with those
false accusations and name calling lies. Interesting!
> You are a hateful bigot. May God grant you the
> grace to see that before it is too late.
What god do you serve?
I see, I am a hateful bigot because I agree with God that
homosexuality is a sin and that homosexuals will not enter the
kingdom of heaven as stated in the bible, and yet you want God
to grant me the "vision" to see that it is not a sin and that
they should have ~holy~ matrimonies as well. (shaking my head
in wonderment)
Again, What god do you serve?
I am also a hateful bigot because I agree with the 9,000
years of history, that we have record of, where there has been
no promotion of homosexual unions as standard fare. But that
makes ~me~ a hateful bigot.
Does your grandfather or grandmother agree that homosexual
marriages should be legal? How about your mother or father?
How about sisters and brothers? Are they hateful bigots as
well?
Or am I mistaken? What other culture in history has promoted
or encouraged homosexual marriages in the same standard of
heterosexual marriage? That would be a great topic for
National Geographic. I haven't yet seen a documentary on it,
have you?
Maz
"JB" <masoni...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > This is not a game. You said I was hateful because I am
> > denying homosexuals the right to marry. I am not. They
have
> > the same rights you and I have in this country (if you are
an
> > American).
> >
> > They want the right to change the definition of marriage
in
> > the constitution.
> >
>
>
> This is obviously a game to you as you insist on playing
slimy, silly
> word games. Is your opinion so unworthy that you don't find
you can
> address it directly without coy smirks on your face? Were
you so
> afraid of your opinion you had to lie by omission? (I assume
you
> weren't so slow as to really be confused by what Hammond
actually
> meant).
Slimy? the guy was telling me I"m hateful because I would deny
a homosexual marriage. I'm not denying them anything, the
constitution is and the constitution of the bible is.
It is not me!
My opinion is a different matter. In fact it may not matter at
all in a few years.
>
> Which part of the US Constitution specifically bans two
homosexuals
> getting married?
The part about one man and one woman......
JB
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> > Which part of the US Constitution specifically bans two
> homosexuals
> > getting married?
>
>
> The part about one man and one woman......
>
>
Please be more specific. I wasn't aware that the US Constitution
mentioned terms under which anyone could marry anyone but since you
know where please tell me which article and which provision it is
mentioned in? Also, please tell me why, if it's in there already,
does the current government feel it necessary to amend the
Constitution to make it illegal?
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Brenda G. Kent
secrecy. The idea behind some of these "secret societies" is that some
knowledge is not safe in the hands of those who don't understand it...or
who would use it to harm and not help. Some knowledge is wasted on those
who don't understand its worth or who insult it. Thus the need for secret
societies.
When a person shows that he/she is ready for such knowledge...by their
actions or questions..then he/she is usually admitted into such secret
societies....OR are told these pearls of wisdom.
A child may not be ready for University level work.....to each his own
time and pace.
Pastor Dave
<Ma...@optonline.net> screamed out:
>I am also a hateful bigot because I agree with the 9,000
>years of history, that we have record of,
We don't have a record of 9,000 years of history, but I
agree with your point.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"Were they ashamed when they made an abomination?
They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know
to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall.
At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down,
says Jehovah." - Jeremiah 6:15
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
/
o{}xxxxx[]::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::>
\
"You can safely assume that you've created God in your
own image when it turns out that God hates all the same
people you do. - Anne Lamott
Brenda G. Kent
Your response is typical of your satanis nature in
twisting words to your idiotic masonic ends
Bren says: Gene..I am posted to alt.christianlife and because the original
poster crossposted it to alt.freemasonry...this thread is going over to
that one too. I am not a Mason.
Jani
"Maz" <Ma...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Interesting article here which not only deals with the fairly well-known
same-sex marriages in ancient Greece and Rome, but also strongly suggests
that the "enfraternisations" of early Christianity were same-sex marriages.
http://www.simonsays.com/titles/0684824043/sameex1b.html
Jani
Brenda G. Kent
Wicca. Druidism is another faith altogether. They worship the product of
creation...and are more solar based. Wiccans worship the creation process
and are more lunar based. That is ONE of the major differences...but there
are many. Wiccans don't believe in the devil or Satan and none of our
teachings even speak about the devil or Satan unless we are referring to
what many Christians believe in.
Witch and Wiccan are not interchangeable words. That is like saying
Doctor and Christian are interchangeable. I know that you don't speak much
on this list and just post what others say so maybe you don't read what
you are posting either...who knows? However I do wonder why you speak of
following the Bible to the letter yet you continue to bear false witness
against others.
SteveZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Duane Washum [mailto:dwa...@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:46 PM
To: stev...@mailsnare.net
Subject:
Hi, Steve.
Not exactly sure who you are, but just wanted to drop you a note
regarding
a recent exchange you had with Ed King.
I have noticed with interest that lying is one thing his website
purports
to deal with. On his site, when he lists those who are opposed to
Freemasonry, he states in the foreword, in part, ". .those we name
here
are, almost universally, people who LIE!"
For the record, I do not have a brother named Wayne, nor do I know of
any
member of the Washum family who has that name. So, in fact, Ed King
has
become one of those, to use his own words, "people who LIE!"
It would be interesting to know how he "researches" such matters:-)
:-)
In Christ,
Duane Washum
Ex Masons For Jesus
In Search Of Light Ministries
Ministry To Masons Conference 2004
See details at http://www.ephesians5-11.org/2004_mtm.htm
Duane,
Amen to that, I found Edwin to be the biggest liar on the Usenet, his
site is good for only one reason, when I visit his website I find the
names of those he lists as liars and find out that they were the ones
telling the truth and Ed King was not.
Thanks for sending me this reassurance to the lies that Edwin King
spews daily.
Steve
Brenda G. Kent
>of our death.
Bren says: I suppose some folks don't like to be lied about etc.
Prophecies of "our" death? funny as a Christian I have never received
those at all. Perhaps you had better go and read your bible again and see
the death edict in the Bible about "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
and see who is asking people to kill witches..or murder witches...in the
scripture. If anyone has a right to be upset..that is the pagan community
as a whole.
There are no Wiccan books asking for the death of Christians. There is
only tolerance.
Hammond of Texas
>>This disingenuous trick is childish in the extreme. You knew
>
> full well
>
>>what the we were talking about.
>
>
>
> That was not a trick. You accused me of denying gays the right
> to marry.
Stamping your feet, and insisting that the obvious isn't so, only
reinforces the childish image, making it clear that you deserve no respect.
> I don't deny gays the right to anything other than say that
> homosexuality is not a sin in the eyes of God. I deny that
> because the bible tells me so. If you want I"ll show you the
> verses.
Oh, please. I do not believe in idol worship, therefore I reject, out of
hand, that the words in some book are "the word of God". You're going to
have to prove things on your own.
> I knew full well what I was talking about.
Indeed...
> to how often gays say their civil liberties are being denied.
> You are being their dupe as well. Their civil liberties are
> not being denied them. That was my point.
Yes, they are. Quite clearly. How long before you decide that they
shouldn't have certain jobs? The maybe we should put them in camps...
> They are not being
> denied of any right that you or I have.
You can't really believe that.
> Act like what? By my using my civil liberty to speak my
> opinion about gay marriages. You are trying to deny me my
> civil rights by calling me hateful and a bigot and an
> anti-semetic.
NONSENSE! You have every right to spout your hate and bigotry. You just
aren't man enough to take responsibility for your own actions and take
the heat when someone calls you on your un-Christian behavior.
> What god do you serve?
There is only one, so that would be "the same one you do".
M. Epling
I would just like to say that the story in the bible dealing with not
throwing your peals to the swine is not about secret societies at all.
It deals with the pearls being those most dear beliefs that you have inside
of your heart that others, who through not understanding the importance of
those dear things that may cause you to stumble spiritually. The swine not
caring about that pearl or precious belief you may hold dear, will turn and
trample on it as if it were nothing and then talk about you or discredit you
because of the belief and not the sincere of your belief that keeps your
salvation close to you.
IMHO
--
Noble M. Epling
AF&AM #95
Beckley WV
A.A.S.R.-SJ 32*
BENI KEDEM SHRINERS
A.A.O.N.M.S. OF CHARLESTON WV
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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Bob
> homosexuals
> > getting married?
>
>
> The part about one man and one woman......
It's not in there, Marilyn. That's why there was a push for an amendment
to ban it. Don't worry about it dear sister, they are all just storing up
wrath for themselves on the Day of Judgement.
Blob<><
JB
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What? You mean this person has been making stupid claims with no
basis in fact? Then went on to defend those same claims? Gosh, I am
surprised. Kind of makes me think they haven't even read The
Constitution.
>> The part about one man and one woman......
LOL!
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SteveZ
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/mormon.htm
Mormonism Exposed- The King James Bible answers Mormon Heresy. Joseph
Smith
and his cult and heresy treated.
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MORMONISM:
We have no mercy on the system Mormonism and its leaders,
BUT we have a genuine burden for those caught up in Mormonism.
If you have contributions to this page regarding Mormon doctrine,
or if you have a testimony of deliverance from Mormondom,
please send it by E-Mail <mailto:st...@balaams-ass.com> .
THE CHRIST OF MORMONISM
Most Mormon homes have this picture of Jesus, if they have one at all.
ALL Mormon homes have pictures of the temple in Salt Lake
and usually another temple from some other place they lived.
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/mormchr1.jpg>
NOT a Jew-- Rather, this counterfeit Jesus looks like a leather faced
German Gringo.
The artist gave him the worn out look of a 45 to 50 year old truck
farmer
with six nagging wives out back.
Also, the artist fell for the hippy Nazarite notion of long hair.
Jesus was
a Nazarene, NOT a Nazarite!!!!
ARTICLES:
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/mormnwin.htm> A
TENDER
YET ZEALOUS FAMILY WITNESSES TO MORMONS
DON'T <http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/confuse.htm>
CONFUSE ME WITH THE FACTS-- By David McAllister
MORMON
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/mrmnmilt.htm>
MILITIA HAS SALT LAKE POLICE UNDER SIEGE
MORMON <http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/masterb.htm>
DOCTRINE OF MASTERBATION
I SAW GOD
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/mrmnpot.htm>
BLOWING POT
GOD STEALS
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/mrmntost.htm>
HIS WIFE'S CINNAMON TOAST
MORMON
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/mrmnblck.htm>
BLACK THEOLOGY PG-18
UTAH <http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/lghthse.htm>
LIGHTHOUSE MINISTRY
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LINKS-- PRO AND CON--
BE CAREFUL SINCE SOME OF THESE LINKS ARE
AGAINST MORMONISM--BUT NOT BIBLICALLY NARROW:
THE BEST BOOK TO REVEAL THE MORMON HERESY AND HISTORY:
http://www.utlm.org/booklist/titles/ub001_mormonismshadoworreality.htm
SOME VERY USEFUL ARTICLES EXPOSING MORMONISM:
http://www.exmormon.8m.com/index2.html
MORMONISM'S ATTACKS ON CHRISTIANITY:
http://www.carm.org/ldsattack.htm
<http://web.archive.org/web/19991117070015/http://carm.org/ldsattack.htm>
THOU SHALT NOT DENY THE MYTHS AND LEGENDS:
<http://www.nationalpost.com/world/story.html?id=%7B7231EB7D-2DCB-4F8E-9066-
215C08D16255%7D>
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C08D16255}
LETTER ASKING TO BE TAKEN OFF THE MORMON MEMBERSHIP ROLE--
No Mormon can read this and say he does not understand the issues:
http://exmormon.org/whylft12.htm
Mormonism-- Cult or Christianity? by Pastor Bob Davis:
http://www.eastside.com/mormon/mormon1.htm
<http://web.archive.org/web/19980628042524/http://www.eastside.com/mormon/mo
rmon1.htm>
OUT OF MORMONISM-- TESTIMONY OF ED DECKER:
<http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism/edstestimony.htm>
http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism/edstestimony.htm
Is Mormonism Based on the Book of Mormon? by Ira T. Ransom:
<http://web.archive.org/web/19980222171426/http://www.alphamin.org/ransom/On
Bom.html>
http://www.alphamin.org/ransom/OnBom.html
THE LIFE AND CONFESSIONS Of The Late Mormon Bishop,
JOHN D. LEE; ALSO THE TRUE HISTORY OF THE HORRIBLE BUTCHERY KNOWN
AS THE MOUNTAIN MEADOWS MASSACRE:
http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/lee_mm2.htm
MORMON DOCTRINE OF BLOOD ATONEMENT-- Excuse to murder one's brother:
<http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/blood.htm>
http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/blood.htm
THE MORMONISM RESEARCH MINISTRY
http://www.mrm.org/
CHECK THIS MIDDLE OF THE ROAD PAGE
The temple ceremonies are pretty well exposed.
Someone tried to bury this one-- We got it back, and it is powerful.
The man is NOT born again:
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<http://web.archive.org/web/20000308211246/http://members.aol.com/VeilWorker
/endowment.index.html>
NEW COVENANT CHURCH OF GOD: I feel this Mormon clone needs to be
identified,
for this group wants to be thought of as almost Baptist or Methodist.
Thus....S
Here is how the New Covenant Church of God, trash the Holy spirit.
Notice
please how these TR people trash the Greek Bible, AND the Holy Ghost
is
female:
New Covenant Christian Proto-Trinitarians are pretty well in complete
agreement with classical Trinitarians from the Protestant, Catholic
and
Eastern Orthodox Churches when it comes to the biblical doctrine of
the
Father and the Son. Where we differ a little is in the doctrine of the
Holy
Spirit. The Protestants and Catholics differ with the Eastern Orthodox
Church over the Holy Spirit too (e.g. the 'Filioque Controversy') and
we are
closer to the Eastern Orthodox in this regard than the Western
Churches.
Nevertheless there is, in reality, very little difference between us
as we
all accept the Deity of the Holy Spirit.
To lie to the Holy Spirit is to lie to God (Acts 5:3-4). The linking
of the
Spirit with the Lord Yahshua (Jesus) and the Father in such places as
1
Corinthians 12:4-6 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 would be near blasphemy if
'He'
were not 'Himself' God. The Holy Spirit is also personal. Thus 'He'
wills
(Acts 13:2; 1 Corinthians 12:11); 'He' understands (Romans 8:27); 'He'
may
be grieved (Ephesians 4:30). Such terms would be meaningless if
applied
solely to an impersonal influence or power.
We do not have nearly as much data on the Holy Spirit's personality as
we do
of Christ, as we would expect of an invisible Being. There are two
problems
with the classical Trinitarian formulation on the Holy Spirit:
a. The Holy Spirit is described in both Testaments as both personal
and
impersonal;
b. The Holy Spirit is predominantly described in masculine terms in
the New
Testament, in feminine terms in the Old Testament, and in neutral
terms
throughout both.
Classical Trinitarianism acknowledges only that the Holy Spirit is
personal
and masculine which, in the view of the New Covenant Church of God, is
an
inadequate representation of the Bible witness. We therefore consider
classical Trinitarianism to be defective in its doctrine of the Holy
Spirit.
Since the Bible does not give a precise formulation of the Holy
Spirit,
neither do we. And since the term 'Holy Spirit' is often used
interchangeably with both the Father and the Son, it is not possible
to
arrive at any definite formulation based on the biblical data alone.
As the
data stands, it is possible to arrive at several conclusions.
It is here that further revelation is needed. Part of the problem we
have
with the New Testament was that it was written in Greek, a language
evolved
within a pagan context as opposed to the Hebrew of the Old Testament
which
was, we believe, the original divine language and which evolved within
the
context of a divine theocracy (Israel). This means, in our opinion,
that
Hebrew is more precise and inspired than Greek.
Moreover, we have good reason to believe that most, if not all, the
New
Testament was originally written in Hebrew and subsequently translated
into
Greek. Therefore in terms of defining the gender of the Holy Spirit,
New
Covenant Christians are more disposed to the Old Testament witness of
the
Bible which overwhelmingly reveals the Holy Spirit to be feminine.
I now will add a section from another Web site which shows that the
NCCG has
its roots in the Mormon Church as well as the SDA Sabbath and Ellen G.
White's heritage, which Wyatt and Rives share:
The New Covenant Church of God/Guds Nye Pakts Kirke
In response to my letter requesting information from the New Covenant
Church
of God, i received a letter from Christopher C. Warren, Presiding
Patriarch
of the church, from which i quote relevant portions below, as well as
several pamphlets (not quoted due to space constraints) and a couple
of
other official documents which are quoted on this page. Please note
that the
letter quoted below is copyright ©1996 Christopher C. Warren, and the
other
documents herein quoted are ©New Covenant Church of God/Guds Nye Pakts
Kirke. I have received written permission to quote these materials for
non-commercial use on the internet, but i have not been given
permission to
transfer that right to anyone else.
Quoting from a letter on New Covenant Church of God stationery from
Christopher C. Warren, Presiding Patriarch, dated 21 January 1996:
We are...in the process of editing and making a public selection of
the
Church's 1,000 or so revelations received since the mid 1980's but
this is
unlikely to be available for many months. A few of these revelations
are
already available in printed format and I am enclosing a sample,
including:
(a) The Inspired Translation and Prophetic Expansion of the Gospel of
Thomas
(Logions 1-12); (b) The Highest Love: The New Olive Leaf Revelations;
(c)
The Ten Virgins; and (d) The Two Birds...
The Church does not publish membership statistics. There are four
congregations in Norway, one in the Ukraine, and one in Bulgaria.
There used
to be small congregations in the USA, England, and Denmark but these
no
longer exist. There are investigators in several countries...
The current leadership of the Church consists of Christopher C. Warren
(Presiding Patriarch/Apostle), Aslaug Hagen Mjölsvik (Presiding
Matriarch),
Gunnar Mjölsvik (Second Patriarch/Apostle) and Trond Standnes (Third
Patriarch/Apostle--to be ordained in April [1996]).
The official magazine of the Church is the monthly New Covenant
Witness.
I hope this information has been useful. If anybody requires an
English-speaking contact, they should write or phone:
Christopher C. Warren, M.A. PO Box 48 N-1591 Sperrebotn NORWAY Tel.
69-28-74-06 (Weekdays 18:30-21:30, Norwegian time & weekends)
The following is an official statement from the New Covenant Church of
God
regarding its relationship with the Latter Day Saint Movement
religions.
Official Statement No. 2 of the Patriarchate of the New Covenant
Church of
God
THE LATTER-DAY SCRIPTURES
Inasmuch as some of the scriptures of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints (Mormon/LDS), the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ
of
Latter Day Saints (Saints' Church/RLDS), Sons Ahman Israel (New Age
Mormonism/SAI), and the Evangelical Church of Christ (Patriarchal
Church of
Christ) were at one time accepted by the former Independent Church of
Jesus
Christ (of Latter Day Saints) (dissolved in 1992), the Patriarchate of
the
New Covenant Church of God, speaking on behalf of all its constituent
organisations (the Holy Order, the New Covenant Church of Jesus
Christ, and
the NPKF/NCCF--New Covenant Christian Fellowships), organised on 12
April
1992 and reorganised on 15 October 1995 in Bergen, Norway, wish to
state for
the public record that the New Covenant Church of God:
1.Is not a break-off of any Latter-day Saint Church or a part of that
ecclesiastical and theological stream called the "Restoration
Movement," but
is a wholly new Christian synthesis or tradition established in our
day to
prepare for the Millennial Kingdom;
2.Does not trace its origin to Joseph Smith, Jr., or any of his
successors
in the LDS, RLDS, or other Restoration churches (Brigham Young, Joseph
Smith
III, Davied Israel, etc.), but: (a) to the first Church established by
Christ and His apostles in New Testament times, and (b) to the new
covenant
and revelation received through Lev-Zion commencing 27 June 1984 and
continuing to be unfolded by the Patriarchate of the New Covenant
Church to
the present day;
3.Regards Latter-day Saintism as a whole, and its various forms, as a
deviation from Biblical Christianity;
4.Rejects as canonical scripture the Book of Mormon (LDS/RLDS), the
Doctrine
& Covenants (LDS/RLDS), the Pearl of Great Price (LDS), the Oracles of
Mohonri (SAI), the Writings of Abraham (ECC), the Book of Zadok (SAI),
the
Writings of Moroni (ECC/SAI), the Writings of Mary (ECC), the
Hypocephalus
of Abraham (SAI), and the Inspired Version of the Holy Scriptures
(RLDS) and
considers many of these to contain pernicious heresies likely to lead
souls
astray;
5.Does not accept Latter-day Saint claims to priesthood authority, and
rejects the claim that the resurrected/translated apostles Peter,
James, and
John bestowed such authority upon Joseph Smith, Jr. by the laying-on
of
hands;
6.Rejects the story of the "First Vision" canonised by the LDS church
as a
fabrication of Joseph Smith, Jr. after the supposed event;
7.Does not believe that the Book of Mormon or any of its supposed
"sealed
portions" (the Oracles of Mohonri and Writings of Moroni) to be
historical
documents, but rather inspired (and often uninspired) fiction;
8.Believes the (unsealed portion of the) Book of Mormon to be the
purest of
the Latter-day Saints scriptures, of profit to the discerning,
Bible-centred
Christian as an example of refined Presbyterian doctrine, but having
no
basis in historical reality nor having any connection with the ancient
inhabitants of the American continent;
9.Rejects all forms of freemasonry and the occult which have had
varying
degrees of influence on the Latter-day Saint Movement;
10.Rejects the Mormon doctrines that God was once a man, that men and
women
faithful to the Mormon system will become "gods" and "godesses," that
being
eternally married is a condition of salvation, or that vicarious
baptism is
necessary for the salvation of the dead;
11.Acknowledges its debt to, and holds in common with, Latter-day
Saints a
belief in the doctrines of pre-mortal existence, marriage beyond the
grave
(eternal marriage), the importance of gaining spiritual knowledge in
this
life, an open canon of scripture (but with the caveat that the Bible
is
accepted as the primary book of scripture), and the millennial
theocracy;
12.Rejects the claim of any church, Latter-day Saint or otherwise, to
be the
only true, God-commissioned church in the world, but maintains that
God
works through different churches, denominations and individuals in
proportion to their willingness to be obedient to the Gospel;
13.Encourages its members to prayerfully study all scriptures,
revelations,
visions and prophecies claiming to be from God for their private
edification
as time permits, and occasionally produces studies of these works for
the
more spiritually mature in the Holy Order and New Covenant Church of
Jesus
Christ;
14.Has extracted, or restated, those principles found in Mormonism
which are
true in its own revelations and publications, thus making the need for
Latter-day Saint scriptures in and by the Church superfluous;
15.Whilst considering all Latter-day Saints who have come to a saving
relationship with the resurrected Christ to be Christians in the
truest
sense of the word, believes that the great majority of LDS do not know
the
biblical Jesus and are therefore in desperate need of salvation.
NCCG History and claims to be near Baptist Doctrine-- Note they go
through
the Tribulation: <http://www.nccg.org/Introduction.html>
http://www.nccg.org/Introduction.html
The NCCG is a Reorganized Latter Day Saints clone:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dbowie/restore/nyepakts.html
<http://www.sas.upenn.edu/%7Edbowie/restore/nyepakts.html>
More on this synthesis of NCCG with Mormonism:
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~dbowie/restore/restoration.html
<http://www.sas.upenn.edu/%7Edbowie/restore/restoration.html>
NCCG affiliated with Polygamy promoters:
http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~icsl/
<http://home2.pacific.net.sg/%7Eicsl/>
Here is the NCCG explanation of their Mormon roots-- This will blow
you away
friend:
http://nccg.org/LDS-Page.html
This is like unto it (NCCG): http://www.ucg.org/who.html
Steve
chri...@velocitus.net
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
>
>
>http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/mormon.htm
>
>
>Mormonism Exposed- The King James Bible answers Mormon Heresy. Joseph
>Smith
>and his cult and heresy treated.
>
I wanted to ask a simple question. . .
Are you taking the position of the King James Only cult to oppose the
Mormon cult?
I sincerely hope not. Although the kjv is a good translation,
pretending it is the ONLY GOOD TRANSLATION and belittling other
translations for self-importance is dishonest and unbiblical.
Christian
Hammond of Texas
> Are you taking the position of the King James Only cult to oppose the
> Mormon cult?
>
> I sincerely hope not. Although the kjv is a good translation,
> pretending it is the ONLY GOOD TRANSLATION and belittling other
> translations for self-importance is dishonest and unbiblical.
So..., what are you saying? That there can be MORE than just the one
"True, Accurately Translated, and Authoritatively Edited Word of God"?
Oh my...
Brenda G. Kent
Hello Brenda,
I would just like to say that the story in the bible dealing with not
throwing your peals to the swine is not about secret societies at all.
Bren says: I was using the pearls before swine as a metaphor for giving
things to those that will not appreciate...or who will try and
destroy...and will not understand.
It fits.
SteveZ
No, I am not a Ruckamite Onlyist, I prefer the 1599 Geneva Bible which
didn't have Satanist Knights Templar hands on it like the 1611 KJV
did.
The Knights Templar regrouped in 1717 to form Freemasonry.
Steve
Brenda G. Kent
SteveZ
<wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>STop bigotry against other faiths.
Bigotry is the Universal Cult Church label for what is truth, your
Universal Cult will bring Antichrist, we will reject that false
christ.
Steve
Brenda G. Kent
Universal Cult will bring Antichrist, we will reject that false
christ.
Steve
Bren says: no..bigotry is saying you are right...with no proof one way or
the other just because YOU believe it.
"Universal cult church?"
I don't go to any man-made church.
Bren
Ed King
> Now this is an excellent and well done post.
>
> Bravo
<ROFL> How desperate can you get, Steve?
You've been shown to be the total dupe so you create sock puppets to
congratulate yourself. That really takes the cake!
Ed King
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Ed King
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane Washum [mailto:dwa...@worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:46 PM
> To: stev...@mailsnare.net
> Subject:
>
> Hi, Steve.
>
> Not exactly sure who you are, but just wanted to drop you a note
> regarding a recent exchange you had with Ed King.
<ROFL>
Hey, Duane!!!! Too much of a fraidy-cat to come here yourself????
<ROFL>
You could visit all your old friends like Gene Goldman, Mike Poll, and
I get we can find a lot of others for you to chat with as well.
> I have noticed with interest that lying is one thing his website
> purports to deal with. On his site, when he lists those who are
> opposed to Freemasonry, he states in the foreword, in part, ".
> .those we name here are, almost universally, people who LIE!"
>
> For the record, I do not have a brother named Wayne, nor do I know of
> any member of the Washum family who has that name. So, in fact, Ed
> King has become one of those, to use his own words, "people who LIE!"
Actually, it was a mistake. Your Brother's name is Jim, isn't it Duane?
> It would be interesting to know how he "researches" such matters:-)
> :-)
Well, he made a mistake. But you do know he had an AOL account, right?
I also heard both of your Great Grandparents were Jews. Now where do
you suppose I got THAT information, huh?
Keep smiling, Duane - and do feel free to pop in directly rather than
hiding in the shadows....
> Amen to that, I found Edwin to be the biggest liar on the Usenet,
Poor Steve. The guy who needs to send messages to himself telling him
how well he's doing.... Yep, talk about liars.
And gee whiz, Steve, how many times do you have to be told that my name
isn't Edwin, huh?
Think your childish behavior makes you look like a better Christian
perhaps?
> his site is good for only one reason, when I visit his website I find
> the names of those he lists as liars and find out that they were the
> ones telling the truth and Ed King was not.
Uh-huh. Why not give me YOUR name, Steve, so I can proudly add you to
that list.
You aren't embarrassed to be recognized, are you?
> Thanks for sending me this reassurance to the lies that Edwin King
> spews daily.
Poor Steve: has to resort to munging people's names and sending himself
congratulatory messages.
What a total loser!
Say, of those many you claim to have converted, you haven't provided
any proof. Do you think you'll find the time to do that pretty soon?
jDolan
> STop bigotry against other faiths.
>
>
>
>
Amen.
j Ham Dolan PM You have the time, they might not:
White River #90 Feed the hungry with a click of your mouse:
Royalton (Bethel), Vt. http://www.thehungersite.com
Gene Goldman
>>>~My~ opinion is that
>>>marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
>>>family.
>>So are you saying that an infertle couple, or one who can or
>>will never have children should not be entitled to marry?
>
> No.
Then what does "raising a family" have to do with who should be allowed
to marry whom?
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Be seeing you
And in case I don't see ya' - Good Afternoon, Good Evening and Good Night!
Gene Goldman
> Gene said:
>
> Your response is typical of your satanis nature in
> twisting words to your idiotic masonic ends
>
>
> Bren says: Gene..I am posted to alt.christianlife and because the original
> poster crossposted it to alt.freemasonry...this thread is going over to
> that one too. I am not a Mason.
>
> Blessings
> Bren
>
Well, I didn't say whatever it was that has been attributed to me, and I
have deleted alt.freemasonry from this nonsense.
BringerOfLight
> Yes..they are Steve...and Druidism is not an offshoot of witchcraft or
> Wicca. Druidism is another faith altogether. They worship the product of
> creation...and are more solar based. Wiccans worship the creation process
> and are more lunar based. That is ONE of the major differences...but there
> are many. Wiccans don't believe in the devil or Satan and none of our
> teachings even speak about the devil or Satan unless we are referring to
> what many Christians believe in.
>
> Witch and Wiccan are not interchangeable words. That is like saying
> Doctor and Christian are interchangeable. I know that you don't speak much
> on this list and just post what others say so maybe you don't read what
> you are posting either...who knows? However I do wonder why you speak of
> following the Bible to the letter yet you continue to bear false witness
> against others.
>
>
> Blessings
> Bren
Brenda, you're wasting your time my friend. A closed mind will not
allow an alternative argument to penetrate its walls. I find it
typically funny how the majority of these people who write this
anti-wiccan stuff, are usually the first to know bugger all about it.
Steve is a spiritual nazi, whos main concern is to get everybody else
under the bootheel of fear and loathing that he lives under, best to
leave him to his paranoid delusions.
SteveZ
wrote:
LOL Edwin is so pissed off, it is nice to see Mason Pigs Squeal.
You won't get my name, Freemasons like to murder those who expose
them, LOL, I don't fear any of your threats.
One day we will meet, one day. I would be scared mr. Freemason bully.
M. Epling
is not something that should be taken as factual. Thank you Bren.
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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Frank Trebor
"Gene Goldman" <br_...@pacbell.dot.net> wrote ...
> Maz wrote:
> >>>~My~ opinion is that
> >>>marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
> >>>family.
> >>So are you saying that an infertle couple, or one who can or
> >>will never have children should not be entitled to marry?
> > No.
> Then what does "raising a family" have to do with who should
> be allowed to marry whom?
You stupid masonic plonker,
you don't even know what God's intentions were for marriage!
I believe that is because your cult of freemasonry doesn't
worship the true God of Heaven, but worships satan in lieu.
But then you knew that already, didn't you!
Ed King
> LOL Edwin is so pissed off,
What a GOOD Christian you are, Steve.
Do all of the members of your so-called Church talk like this?
Is this the way you think Jesus wants you to talk?
You are SUCH a fine example of Christianity. Where are those folks who've
converted because of you? Do they use gutter language like you do too?
> it is nice to see Mason Pigs Squeal.
Actually, it's you doing all the squealing, my little trollette.
Oh, yeah: when you aren't sending congratulatory messages to your self.
Talk about LOSERS!
> You won't get my name,
Ashamed? Embarrassed?
You should be....
> Freemasons like to murder those who expose them, LOL,
Yep. Happens all the time. Perhaps you could provide some proof of your
claim?
> I don't fear any of your threats.
You don't fear _what_ threats? I've made none.
In one breath you claim you don't fear threats but you still won't give
your name. What a BIG man you are!
> One day we will meet, one day. I would be scared mr. Freemason bully.
<ROFL> You are a total wimp little child. You've been spending FAR too much
time reading Mr. Van Nattan's essay on the 'm' subject I think. Don't go
blind now....
Gene Goldman
Thanks. I do appreciate a prompt and direct response.
I didn't think that raising a family had anything to do with your fear
of adults getting married without your approval, but I thought I should
ask.
You have expressed yourself unusually well, thank you.
Gene Goldman
My, my. It must be years since I have corresponded with Duane, I
wonder how he's doing...
>>You could visit all your old friends like Gene Goldman, Mike Poll, and
>>I get we can find a lot of others for you to chat with as well.
It would be like old times. An Anti that can post without resorting to
childish name-calling, profanity and overt bigotry.
Notice that I didn't even mention Steve's name there?
>>Well, he made a mistake. But you do know he had an AOL account, right?
>>I also heard both of your Great Grandparents were Jews. Now where do
>>you suppose I got THAT information, huh?
>>
>>Keep smiling, Duane - and do feel free to pop in directly rather than
>>hiding in the shadows....
Oh, yes, DO! I spoke with a couple members of his former Lodge, you
know. They were extremely apologetic, and informed me that they have
done a MUCH better job of examining applicants ever since.
>>Think your childish behavior makes you look like a better Christian
>>perhaps?
That would presuppose that he was a Christian in the first place - an
as-yet unproven assumption.
>>Say, of those many you claim to have converted, you haven't provided
>>any proof. Do you think you'll find the time to do that pretty soon?
Ed, What do you mean? He has posted the name and e-mail address of
every single one!
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chri...@velocitus.net
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
And "authorittatively edited" Word of God? ROTFL!
Christian
chri...@velocitus.net
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
Claiming that anything you don't like is from "the Universal Cult
Church" is truly bigotry in its worst form.
Christian
Hammond of Texas
@nospam.com says...
> You won't get my name, Freemasons like to murder those who expose
> them, LOL, I don't fear any of your threats.
<yawn...> Y'all knew this was coming...
Why, that is a LIE, Steve; a big fat one. You aren't a Christian at all.
You're just a liar.
> One day we will meet, one day. I would be scared mr. Freemason bully.
Is that a THREAT, Steve? If it is, could I have one too, please?
Ed King
wrote:
> >>Hey, Duane!!!! Too much of a fraidy-cat to come here yourself????
>
> My, my. It must be years since I have corresponded with Duane, I
> wonder how he's doing...
Still trying to get the number of ex-Masons for Jesus up to 10, I bet.
> >>You could visit all your old friends like Gene Goldman, Mike Poll, and
> >>I get we can find a lot of others for you to chat with as well.
>
> It would be like old times. An Anti that can post without resorting to
> childish name-calling, profanity and overt bigotry.
He sputtered an awful lot though. Good thing he got some coaching....
> Notice that I didn't even mention Steve's name there?
Steve? Oh, you mean the guy who posts congratulations to himself under
other identities? THAT Steve??? <ROFL>
> >>Well, he made a mistake. But you do know he had an AOL account, right?
> >>I also heard both of your Great Grandparents were Jews. Now where do
> >>you suppose I got THAT information, huh?
> >>
> >>Keep smiling, Duane - and do feel free to pop in directly rather than
> >>hiding in the shadows....
>
> Oh, yes, DO! I spoke with a couple members of his former Lodge, you
> know. They were extremely apologetic, and informed me that they have
> done a MUCH better job of examining applicants ever since.
It is SO ironic to see that post today. I last spoke with Jim EXACTLY one
year ago today.... I sent him a note tonight.
Wonder when the last time Duane talked to him.... <sigh>
> >>Think your childish behavior makes you look like a better Christian
> >>perhaps?
>
> That would presuppose that he was a Christian in the first place - an
> as-yet unproven assumption.
I'll tell ya: I've NEVER seen someone professing to be a true Christian
like he does use such potty language. Really embarassing for Christians
everywhere....
> >>Say, of those many you claim to have converted, you haven't provided
> >>any proof. Do you think you'll find the time to do that pretty soon?
>
> Ed, What do you mean? He has posted the name and e-mail address of
> every single one!
Yes, excellent point. I did notice that white space....
Fraternally,
Ed King
http://www.masonicinfo.com -- Anti-Masonry: Points of View
Hammond of Texas
chri...@velocitus.net says...
> Of course there are many good and accurately translated Bibles.
>
The various translations contradict each other. Hmmm..., which one to
choose?
> And "authorittatively edited" Word of God? ROTFL!
The volume known as "The Bible" is a collection of works. What made the
final cut, and what was left out, was the decision of group of men,
thoroughly mortal men; an EDITORIAL BOARD, if you will. That is an
historial fact. Live with it.
Brenda G. Kent
Don't worry..I know if it is a waste of time or not. I like to post or
reply not just to the original person asking for an answer...but for
others who may be reading it as well. There are far too many Christians
out there that believe the lies about Wicca sadly. For some yes...the
damage has already been done...but there are still others out there who
might want another opinion. I guess that is where I come in.
Thanks and God bless
Bren
Brenda G. Kent
Fair enough. And do not forget that my opinion was just that, an opinion.
It
is not something that should be taken as factual. Thank you Bren.
Bren says: I noted that! :) thankyou.
chri...@velocitus.net
Christian
chri...@velocitus.net
you posted in alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic :
>In article <uadgh09nrif0avh06...@4ax.com>,
>chri...@velocitus.net says...
>
>> Of course there are many good and accurately translated Bibles.
>>
>The various translations contradict each other. Hmmm..., which one to
>choose?
The various revisions (ALL 7 of them) of the kjv contradict each other
too. Which one of THOSE do you choose?
The fact is that NO TWO GREEK NEW TESTAMENT TEXTS agree 100% of the
time. LIVE WITH THAT.
>
>> And "authorittatively edited" Word of God? ROTFL!
>
>The volume known as "The Bible" is a collection of works. What made the
>final cut, and what was left out, was the decision of group of men,
>thoroughly mortal men; an EDITORIAL BOARD, if you will. That is an
>historial fact. Live with it.
Yah sure. So now you are a Roman Catholic?
Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Christian
SteveZ
<br_...@pacbell.dot.net> wrote:
>Frank Trebor wrote:
>>>>>>~My~ opinion is that
>>>>>>marriage is for man and woman for the sake of raising a
>>>>>>family.
>>>>>So are you saying that an infertle couple, or one who can or
>>>>>will never have children should not be entitled to marry?
>>>>No.
>>>
>>>Then what does "raising a family" have to do with who should
>>>be allowed to marry whom?
>>
>>
>> You stupid masonic plonker,
>> you don't even know what God's intentions were for marriage!
>>
>> I believe that is because your cult of freemasonry doesn't
>> worship the true God of Heaven, but worships satan in lieu.
>> But then you knew that already, didn't you!
>
>Thanks. I do appreciate a prompt and direct response.
>I didn't think that raising a family had anything to do with your fear
>of adults getting married without your approval, but I thought I should
>ask.
>You have expressed yourself unusually well, thank you.
Gene, stop spewing the fear lie, this is what we should say to the
stupid word"homophobic"
We are not "homophobes." This word means, "The fear of men." This is
newspeak of course, as it is used in the sodomite community and in
propaganda machines in public schools and Federal agencies. We are
NOT frightened of men. We are also not frightened of sodomites.
We do not respond in terms of phobias, like sodomites who panic when
they come face to face with a manly Bible believer. Stories abound of
how some sodomites have gone into demonic frenzy and done unspeakable
things when faced with a true saint of Jesus Christ. This is because
they don't know what to do with a Bible believing man. THEY are the
ones with a manic phobia.
Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having
faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not
selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given
to filthy lucre;
8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy,
temperate;
A man of God will love good men. Sodomites, in the Word of God, are
called "an abomination" to God. So, a godly man will love good men
without phobia, and he will hate the sin of sodomites, again, without
phobia. Thus, the word "homophobia" is self-contradictory and means
nothing.
And yes, a godly man will have the love of Jesus Christ in his heart
for sodomites. This is not sensual love-- it is the love that calls
any sinner from his rebellion against the love of Jesus Christ to
repent and be converted and leave the old life of sin and death.
Indeed, every person born since Cain was born a sinner and must
respond the same way to avoid the fires of hell.
Steve
Hammond of Texas
> Gene, stop spewing the fear lie, this is what we should say to the
> stupid word"homophobic"
Word's can't be "stupid", Steve. People, on the other hand, can be
stupid indeed, as you so ably demonstrate. To wit,
> We are not "homophobes." This word means, "The fear of men."
Actually, no. Literally, homophobia means "fear of that which is the
same". In common cultural parlance, it has come to mean "the irrational
fear of homosexuals".
So you see Steve, once we take the time to understand them, we can see
that words aren't stupid, Steve. YOU are.
> propaganda machines in public schools and Federal agencies. We are
> NOT frightened of men. We are also not frightened of sodomites.
Oh, but you are, quite clearly so. Why are you afraid of homosexuals?
What threat do they represent to you?
> We do not respond in terms of phobias, like sodomites who panic when
> they come face to face with a manly Bible believer.
Actually, a lot of them would probably get aroused by a "manly"
anything, face to face, or face to whatever.
Jeez, I crack myself up...
> Stories abound of
> how some sodomites have gone into demonic frenzy and done unspeakable
> things when faced with a true saint of Jesus Christ.
Really? Where are these stories?
> And yes, a godly man will have the love of Jesus Christ in his heart
> for sodomites.
That would let you off the hook then, wouldn't it Steve. Being quite
un-godly and even more bereft of the love Jesus Christ, you don't HAVE
to love them. Good thing, huh?
SteveZ
Hammerhead, are you one of those Girlie Men? LOL
Hammond of Texas
> Hammerhead, are you one of those Girlie Men? LOL
>
Would you like me more if I said that I am? Come on, admit it. The idea
makes you hot, doesn't it?
Or is it that you need another reason to hate?
Brenda G. Kent
Actually, a lot of them would probably get aroused by a "manly"
anything, face to face, or face to whatever.
Jeez, I crack myself up...
Bren says: and me too! LOL! Most gay men that I know would just
smile and shrug at a Bible thumper and then go on their merry way. They've
heard it all and don't need anymore hatred in their lives.
Blessings
Bren
Brenda G. Kent
Hammerhead, are you one of those Girlie Men? LOL
Bren says: STeve you are acting like such a hypocrite. You post a lot
of stuff on literalness or your interp of literalness...and yet you put
down others with insult. Why do you do this? Would Jesus do this?
Jani
"Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
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> Bigotry is the Universal Cult Church label for what is truth, your
> Universal Cult will bring Antichrist, we will reject that false
> christ.
>
>
>
> Bren says: no..bigotry is saying you are right...with no proof one way or
> the other just because YOU believe it.
>
> "Universal cult church?"
>
> I don't go to any man-made church.
>
> Bren
Doesn't stop you using their mail-order titles, does it, "Rev"?
Jani
SteveZ
<wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote:
>Hammond said:
>
>Actually, a lot of them would probably get aroused by a "manly"
>anything, face to face, or face to whatever.
>
>Jeez, I crack myself up...
>
>
>Bren says: and me too! LOL! Most gay men that I know would just
>smile and shrug at a Bible thumper and then go on their merry way. They've
>heard it all and don't need anymore hatred in their lives.
>
>
>Blessings
>Bren
And those Reprobates will be in Hell, because the Bible is God's Word
and God's Laws stand:
A Grim Fairy Tale
There's Nothing Gay About Being Gay
This tract is being written out of necessity and with great urgency
because of a malignant and spiritually deadly condition that exists in
our country and much of the world. I am referring not only to the
homosexuals, lesbians, and other types of Sodomites themselves, but
also to the so-called “Christian” community that accepts their sin and
misbehavior even though such misbehavior is clearly condemned by God
as one of the worst kinds of sin. This spiritually deadly condition
also exists in our educational and governmental systems, which even
grants preferential treatment and special hiring status to
homosexuals.
The homosexuals do not want to just “come out of the closet.” They
want to be accepted as normal when their misbehavior by its very
nature could not be more abnormal. The homosexuals want to have
parades to flaunt their unnatural lifestyle and spiritual sickness. In
these “gay pride” parades, as they call them, you will see men dressed
like women and women dressed like men. You will see men dressed in
colorful panties and brassieres parading down our public streets with
impudent faces and making obscene gestures. You will see politicians
of all levels walking along with them down the avenues of our major
cities.
But who are these homosexuals? Are they just sensitive, harmless
people who are different, as they would have us believe, or are they
an organized militant movement of zealots for the cause of perversion
and driven by a spiritual force? Why are there organizations and
networks such as N.A.M.B.L.A., the North American Man-Boy Love
Association? This organization uses the slogan, “By the time they are
8 it’s too late.” Nambla advocates that young boys should have a
homosexual experience with older men before they are 8 years old. Why
do we have organizations such as G.L.O.B.E., which promotes the
perversion of gays, lesbians and other bisexuals? There are other
radical groups such as “Queer Nation”, “Dikes On Bikes”, “Leaping
Lesbians” and others.
There was a time when even a fraction of this would have been an
outrage! What has happened to our country? To make matters worse,
homosexual couples are gaining a form of marital status and adoption
rights because they obviously can have no children of their own, which
should tell them something. Schools run by the government, sometimes
referred to as “public schools”, are giving their support by using
books in class such as “Heather Has Two Mommies.” Anyone who dares to
stand against the Sodomites and what they are doing are labeled
insensitive, and many companies and government agencies will send
employees to “sensitivity training classes” if they speak out against
the queer people. Those who are outspoken against homosexuals are also
called “homophobes”, which is a term invented by the queers to make it
look like their opponents have a phobia and are mentally ill.
The truth is that the Christian is not afraid of the homosexuals but
rather refuses to condone misbehavior that is so obviously wrong and
so clearly condemned by God. We know that it makes no difference what
man may say, or how he may use the sugar coating of philosophies to
bring sin into the realm of falsely justified acceptance. Since
homosexuality has been thrust into our faces, we must handle it
according to Scriptures. If every person who is “gay”, “straight”, or
“a little bit of each and not enough of either” would truly ask, “What
does God say about it?”, we would find only one answer, and that is
all that matters.
When God created the first two people, He made them male and female.
Genesis 1:27 says, “So God created man in his own image, in the image
of God created he him; male and female created he them.” God created
one male and one female; they were called Adam and Eve, not Adam and
Steve. We must also note that God made one of each, male and female;
not two of each, so they could pare off as queers.
When sin entered the world because of disobedience, and people began
to multiply, Satan began to work his plan to corrupt man’s ability to
procreate and turned it into recreational perversion. Eventually,
people built cities, and two of these cities were Sodom and Gomorrah,
which were located near the modern day Dead Sea. The primary sin of
these two cities was homosexuality. Genesis 18:20-21 says, “And the
LORD said, ‘Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and
because their sin is very grievous; I will go down now, and see
whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is
come unto me; and if not, I will know.’” We must note that in verse
twenty, God mentions that their sin is very grievous, not sins as
plural. There was one specific type of sin under consideration, and
that is homosexuality.
To cement that fact, we can read Genesis 19:1-11, which tells the
whole horrifying story. God sent two angels in the form of men to
Sodom. Verse 4 tells us that the men of Sodom, “both old and young”,
came to Lot’s house, where the two men were. In verse 5, the men of
Sodom “called unto Lot, and said unto him, ‘Where are the men which
came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know
them.’” In this case “know them” means to know them sexually, which is
why Lot said in verse 7, “…I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.”
These were radical queers being driven by evil spirits, and they were
determined to fulfill their lusts. How determined were they? Verse 10
tells us that the two angelic men pulled Lot to safety inside his
house and smote all the queers with blindness according to verse 11,
which says, “And they smote the men that were at the door of the house
with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves
to find the door.” These men were so radical and consumed with lust
that even though they lost their eyesight they still wanted these two
men.
What does God think of homosexuality? He made a clear statement on
that by what he did as recorded in Genesis 19:24 as follows: “Then the
LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the
LORD out of heaven.”
Jesus warned us that the same kind of radical queers would exist in
the last days when He told us in Luke 17:28-30, “Likewise also as it
was in the days of Lot… Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son
of man is revealed.”
Very soon, judgment will once again strike the earth, and the rising
up of the queers in our day is a sure sign that it will be soon. Those
who condone these perverts are as bad as they are according to II John
11, which says, “For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his
evil deeds.” Romans 1:24-32 also very strongly condemns homosexuals
and lesbians. Only true repentance and a renouncing of such filth and
perversion will bring the sinner into the grace of God. It comes down
to true repentance or the fires of hell for eternity.
I Corinthians 6:9-10 says, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not
inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves
with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,
nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
Our nation is in deep trouble and so is the whole world. Homosexuality
and lesbianism must not be condoned! It is a horrible sin, and
repentance is long overdue. We must pray against this perversion and
help those who want to get out of it. We already know what God thinks
and what He will do about it! How about you?
Pastor David J. Meyer
Published by:
Last Trumpet Ministries International
PO Box 806
Beaver Dam, WI 53916
USA
Hammond of Texas
> And those Reprobates will be in Hell, because the Bible is God's Word
> and God's Laws stand:
Accepting, for the sake of argument, that the above assertion is true...
We WILL see you there, Steve. :)
Hammond of Texas
chri...@velocitus.net says...
> >The volume known as "The Bible" is a collection of works. What made the
> >final cut, and what was left out, was the decision of group of men,
> >thoroughly mortal men; an EDITORIAL BOARD, if you will. That is an
> >historial fact. Live with it.
>
> Yah sure. So now you are a Roman Catholic?
> Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Well, I'm a "Catholic who is in recovery". :)
It looks like we are maybe in agreement on the relative validity of the
"Type-Written Word of God", no?
Brenda G. Kent
And those Reprobates will be in Hell, because the Bible is God's Word
and God's Laws stand:
Bren says: dear Steve...please prove that the Bible is God's word and that
your interp of it is the right one.
Ofcourse God's laws stand!
I.M.O
Jim Bennie
> Bren says: dear Steve...please prove that the Bible is God's word and that
> your interp of it is the right one.
> Ofcourse God's laws stand!
Off topic for alt.freemasonry. Please keep this on the religious
newsgroups.
Jim
SteveZ
Freemasonry is a religion.
SteveZ
<jgbe...@vcn.bc.ca> wrote:
Freemasonry is a religion.
Hammond of Texas
@nospam.com says...
> Freemasonry is a religion.
Steve likes to be contrary. He knows that Freemasonry is not a religion.
He's been fairly inundated with proof of this. He offers nothing, other
than his bald assertion.
Steve is a liar.
Jim Bennie
> Freemasonry is a religion.
"Steve" is a troll.
Guess which of the above statements is correct, lurkers?
The second one? Very good!
Jim
M. Epling
Freemasonry is a select group of men who come together in unity and assist
each other on making men better men through symbolism of all cultures, for
the sole cause of character building. Are there similarities in Masonry and
in a religion such as morals and ethics... yes. But a religion we are not. I
am a born again Christian and my worship of my God takes place in a church.
I go to the lodge to better prepare myself at being a humanitarian and a
friend to my fellow brothers in masonry. As do all masons in a regular AF&AM
lodge.
--
Noble M. Epling
AF&AM #95
Beckley WV
A.A.S.R.-SJ 32*
BENI KEDEM SHRINERS
A.A.O.N.M.S. OF CHARLESTON WV
"SteveZ" <Stev...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:dd8jh014svgam5edn...@4ax.com...
Frank Trebor
"Jim Bennie" <jgbe...@vcn.bc.ca> wrote ...
> > Ofcourse God's laws stand!
> Off topic for alt.freemasonry. Please keep this on the religious
Got news for you Jimbo, freemasonry IS a religion!
Jim Bennie
You'd better find a new news service, Frank. The one you're using has
been feeding you malarky.
Jim
SteveZ
Nope, Freemasons are the Liars, here's some more proof to squeal
about:
FREEMASONRY We include Freemasonry as a cult because it is a
religion, and it claims to honor the God of the Bible.
Importance: High
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/freemson.htm
FREEMASONRY
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/masoneye.gif>
We include Freemasonry as a cult because it is a religion,
and it claims to honor the God of the Bible.
If you are a Freemason, don't bother to try to straighten us out.
We have massive proofs that you are in a pagan cult.
If you want to "demit," we would be happy to help you.
Material on this page is rated PG-18.
Weapon of the Maryland snipers:
Bushmaster .223
Reverse it:
Master Bush 322
Masonic ruler: "Worshipful Master"
Master <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9946/mm.html> Mason
We are told that there are always 322 members in the Skull and Bones
<http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm> Club
at Yale, of which George W and his father are members
Albert Pike writes: "If our conceptions of God are those of the
ignorant,
narrow minded, and vindictive Israelite.we feel that it is an affront
and an
indignity to [God]" (Morals and Dogma page 223). Freemasonry hates
Jews.
In September 1977 an article appeared in the US magazine Esquire
regarding
the Skull and Bobes initiation. Antony Sutton explains and detailed
much of
the mumbo-jumbo associated with the Bonesmen. When a new member is
initiated
into the order "Tonight", he is told, "he will die to the world and be
born
again into The Order as he will thenceforth refer to it. The Order is
a
world unto itself in which he will have a new name and fourteen new
blood
brothers, also with new names."
Thus, we know what George W. Bush means when he says he is "born
again."
It has been my experience over the years to learn that virtually every
Freemason I have known has been a pretty decent good old boy. But, I
find
that all Freemasons have no zeal for anything, and they don't have a
clue
what they believe. The ones who claim to be Christians are obsessed
with not
being a hypocrite, and they are so mellow that you could not stir any
emotions from them for Jesus Christ. They are absolute disasters as
soul
winners. Bob Jones Sr. loaded his board at Bob Jones Unifarsity with
Freemasons, and they were dead beats. Some believers who knew Bob
Jones Sr.
believe that he was also a closet Freemason. The moral and spiritual
malaise
which has fallen over that university in these present days is the
direct
result of founding the school on sinking sand.
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/msnsymbl.gif>
ARTICLES:
THE MYSTIC
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/shrine.htm>
SHRINE-- The Shriners
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/rcmason.htm>
FREEMASONS
IN THE VATICAN
Will one of these pagans become the next Pope?
CRITIQUE
<http://www.angelfire.com/oh/jude3and4homepage/alpikecritique.html> OF
ALBERT PIKE'S TEACHING IN MORALS AND DOGMA
SECRET <http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/cooper.htm>
SOCIETIES AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER
By Milton William Cooper
LETTER <http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/msonltr.htm>
FROM
THE LODGE
See how the typical Freemason talks.
FREEMASON
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/handshak.htm>
HANDSHAKE
This man tried it, and it worked.
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/masnphlc.htm> PROOF
FREEMASONRY IS A PHALLIC CULT
Source- Supreme Pontiff Albert Pike in
Morals and Dogma
Text at right is from page 321 of Morals and Dogma.
MICROSOFT'S
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/masnpray.htm>
IDEA OF THE LORD'S PRAYER
LIST OF FAMOUS FREEMASONS
Their brag list
OUR <http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/famous.htm>
PERSONAL
"FAMOUS MASON" LIST
DEMIT <http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/masndmit.htm>
FORM
LETTER
For Freemasons who wish to leave the lodge
FAMOUS AND
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/demolay.htm>
INFAMOUS DEMOLAYS
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/tubal.gif> ASK A FREEMASON WHAT
THIS
SYMBOL IS.
HE WILL DO A SPIEL ABOUT TUBAL CAIN, THE
INVENTOR OF MUSIC BLAH BLAH BLAH.
IN FACT, THIS IS THE MALE ORGANS,
WHICH ALBERT PIKE SAID IS THE GOD OF FREEMASONRY
WHAT DO FREEMASONS BELIEVE (According to them)?
Although Freemasonry recognizes each man is different, there are
certain
traits all Masons have in common:
Masons believe in the existence of God. No atheist can become a Mason.
Masons do not care what your individual faith is.
Masons include Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc.
Masons believe in responsibility, honor, morality, and ethics.
Masons believe the world should be a better place because they passed
through it.
Masons believe a person should strive to be a good citizen and that he
has a
moral duty to be true to the country in which he lives, and uphold and
maintain the principles of good government.
Masons see brotherhood as a form of wisdom, a sort of bond that holds
men
together. A private friendship that tells him he owes it to each of
his
fellow Masons to be just in his dealings.
Freemasonry is far from indifferent to religion. Without interfering
in
religious practice it expects each member to follow his own faith, and
to
place above all other duties his duty to God by whatever name He is
known.
Its moral teachings are acceptable to all religions.
A Masonic authority comments on the custom of lodges of displaying a
version
of the Bible on the lodge altar:
The Bible is not displayed on our altars now and has never been for
the
reason that Masons are required to believe its teachings. We know that
there
is a very large element of the Craft the world over who do not believe
the
teachings of the New Testament. We know that many individual Masons do
not
believe portions of the Old Testament. Hence, unless we are
perpetrating a
grim mockery, we do not employ the Bible as as a profession that we as
a
Society accept all its teachings and doctrines... Masonry as an
organized
society does not and has never exacted this belief of its members. It
can,
therefore, have no other place in our lodges than that of a symbol...
It is
a symbol of Truth, of Divine Truth, of all Truth, whether drawn from
some
book of Revelation or from the Great Book of Nature.
BILLY GRAHAM AND THE FREEMASONRY QUESTION:
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/grahammedal.jpg>
On Thursday 2nd of May 1996 Billy Graham and his wife Ruth received
the
Congressional Gold Medal, in the Rotunda of the US Capitol in
Washington,
D.C.
It is the highest honor which Congress can bestow upon a citizen. The
front
row
of the photograph below, consisted of powerful 33rd Degree Freemasons.
In the front row of the photo are: House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Vice
President Al Gore,
Senator Storm Thurmond, Bob Dole, Senator Jesse Helms and Franklin
Graham,
all of them are 33rd Degree Freemasons.
Why did those seating guests put 33rd drgree Freemasons in the front
row,
the
place of honor, if Billy Graham was not also worthy of that honor?
_____
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LINKS:
AN EXCEPTIONAL COMPARISON BETWEEN
FREEMASONY'S DOCTRINES AND THE WORD OF GOD:
http://www.orthodox.net/ecumenism/free-masonry-vs-christianity.html
<http://www.orthodox.net/ecumenism/free-masonry-vs-christianity.html>
VERY GOOD DISCUSSION OF SKULL AND BONES:
http://www.bilderberg-mirror.org.uk/skulbone.htm
Second site:
<http://www.afrocentricnews.com/html/order_of_skull_and_bones.html>
http://www.afrocentricnews.com/html/order_of_skull_and_bones.html
<http://www.ctrl.org/essay1/ESB1.html>
SKULL AND BONES <http://www.ctrl.org/essay1/ESB1.html>
A history we may not ignore
GEORGE W. BUSH'S
<http://www.redrat.net/blackhole/56skullandbones.htm>
HERITAGE
OF GRAVE ROBBERS FOR THE BONESMEN
See Masonic Skull and Bones club tomb
on Yale campus at right.
BUSH FAMILY, BARONS OF
<http://www.ctrl.org/boodleboys/boddlesboys2.html>
OPIUM TRADE
This is the heritage of several 33rd degree Bushes
ROBERT SCHULER SPEAKS:
This fellow thinks he really hit pay dirt. What Schuler said is very
old
stuff and not a bit startling. But, if you want to hear Schuler saying
a
person can
be a Christian and a Freemason, here it is:
http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/robert2.htm
BIBLE BELIEVER EXAMINES FREEMASONRY:
http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/should_a_christian_become_a_mason.htm
<http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/should_a_christian_become_a_mason.htm>
Amazing and brazen statements of Masonry
http://grandlodgeaum.org/
Very long list of Famous Masons-- Much mockery of non-Masons.
http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous.htm
<http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous.htm>
Freemason attack on the local church --
Emphasis on the "Music Ministry"-- Real Audio
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/audio/sb-ga.ram
Rael and Freemasonry
http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/rael.htm
<http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/rael.htm>
Southern Baptist Pastor Stoney Shaw explains exactly
why he took a stand against Freemasonry.
Would he do it again? Absolutely.
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/audio/impdgos.ram
Militant Masonry
http://www.thelodgeroom.com/contents.html
<http://www.thelodgeroom.com/contents.html>
PLAIN JANE SITE, OBSCURE, BUT POWERFUL INFO:
http://www.redmoonrising.com/tm.htm
<http://www.redmoonrising.com/tm.htm>
Good page and study with graphical interest as well:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Freemasonry.htm
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Freemasonry.htm>
EASTERN STAR: <http://www.easternstar.org/>
http://www.easternstar.org/
"Me thinketh he protesteth too much":
http://www.masonicinfo.com/famousnon.htm
<http://www.masonicinfo.com/famousnon.htm>
TOP TEN INTERNET SITES
EXPOSING FREEMASONRY
* David Icke <http://www.davidicke.com/>
* Chick <http://www.chick.com/> Publications
* Cutting Edge <http://www.cuttingedge.org/> Ministries
* Freemasonry Watch
<http://freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/>
* Ankerg Theolgical <http://www.ankerberg.com/> Institute
* Power of <http://www.texemarrs.com/> Prophesy
* Cephas <http://www.cephasministry.com/> Ministry
* Ephesians 5:11 Inc. <http://www.ephesians5-11.org/>
* Saints Alive In Jesus <http://www.saintsalive.com/>
* Holy <http://www.holywar.org/> War.org
BY FAR THE RICHEST AND MOST TERRIFYING EXPOSURE OF FREEMASONRY:
http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/index.html
"Mercy Baby, please" Listen to them try to explains these "Good Godly"
Masons:
http://www.masonicinfo.com/blksheep.htm
<http://www.masonicinfo.com/blksheep.htm>
WATCH THE FREEMASON SITE AS THEY SQUIRM :-)
These people talk like the First Amendment has been suspended.
They don't like the power in just our link list, let alone our
exposure of
their secret works.
http://www.masonicinfo.com/others_pg2.htm
We have learned that a Masonic Lodge changed their page, to which we
had
linked,
to a Porn page to make fools of us. Our readers caught it, and the
fools
are these
tender hearted men who claim they are saving the world from evil. Oh
Yes!!!
:-)
Supreme Pontiff of the Southeastern Jurisdiction of Freemasonry,
Albert
Pike, was earlier
Confederate Brigadier General Albert Pike. Read how he commended a
troop of
Indians
and encouraged them to scalp and kill all their prisoners--
This man, in his book, Morals and Dogma, taught that Jehovah is the
phallus,
Jesus is the vagina,
and the Holy Ghost is the sperm of the Godhead-- What a dog:
http://www.us-civilwar.com/acwd.html
HARRY S. TRUMAN
This site shows that a common sense and, otherwise, decent man, could
be
suckered into this paganism:
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/places/gv36.htm
LODGE ROOM EXPLAINED:
http://www.tvl1048.org/tour.html
ANOTHER SOURCE FOR THE PHALLIC ASPECT OF MASONRY:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/masonph.htm
ONE BIBLE BELIEVER'S DISCOVERY AND ESCAPE FROM BLASPHEMY:
http://www.fatherheart.org/page16.html
<http://www.fatherheart.org/page16.html>
OFFICIAL POSITION ON MASONRY BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH:
This shows that they did get it right long ago, though John Paul II is
himself a Freemason:
http://www.staycatholic.com/freemasons.htm
INTERESTING REPORT ON A FAMOUS EVANGELIST:
Disclaimer any other works by the source:
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Misc/Graham3.htM
A "GOOD GODLY" FREEMSAON AT WORK:
http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/bilkem/bilk_as_slumlord.html
<http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/bilkem/bilk_as_slumlord.html>
FREEMASONRY AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER:
http://www.devvy.com/9610.html
FREEMASONRY IS FOUNDATIONAL TO WORLD POLITICS:
http://eairc.boom.ru/library/path_to_apocalypse/apocalypse_III-5.html
CUTTING EDGE ON MASONRY:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1165.cfm
<http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1165.cfm>
THE MOST SHALLOW DISCUSSION OF THE BIBLE YOU WILL EVER READ:
http://tracingboard.com/bible.htm
CATHOLIC ANGER AGAINST FREEMASONRY IN THE VATICAN:
http://www.holygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/Freemasonry.htm
Second Site:
http://www.trosch.org/bks/rvw/poncins.html
<http://www.trosch.org/bks/rvw/poncins.html>
PIKE AND RITUAL ABUSE:
http://www.ritualabusefree.org/Immorals%20and%20Dogma.htm
<http://www.ritualabusefree.org/Immorals%20and%20Dogma.htm>
PRINCE HALL WORSHIPFUL MASTER HAS A THANK YOU JAVA. READ IT ALL, AND
YOU
WILL REALIZE HE HAS NO IDEA WHO GOD IS. THIS IS THE BLACK VERSION OF
MASONRY
WHICH WAS INVENTED BY WHITE RACIST MASONS TO GET THE BLACKS OUT OF
THEIR
LODGE.
http://arkphagrandlodge.com/
EXCEPTIONAL PAGE OF MASONIC SYMBOLS:
http://www.mastermason.com/BrotherGene/graphics/default.htm
<http://www.mastermason.com/BrotherGene/graphics/default.htm>
POWERFUL SITE REGARDING JEHOVAH'S WITNESS CONNECTION TO MASONRY,
AND US PRESIDENTS:
<http://web.archive.org/web/20000816013327/http://www.fortunecity.com/roswel
l/daniken/443/uspresidentasmasons.htm>
http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/daniken/443/uspresidentasmasons.htm
HERE IS THE SILLY APRON WHICH COVERS THE GENITALS OF EVERY MASON:
http://www.gower.net/Community/stjohn/
THE SHRINERS ARE MUSLIMS:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/7583/
"The word Islam comes from the name of the Mohammedan religion.
While our order does not serve as a religious sect, the name Islam
shows
the relationship of the order to the Near East where it was first
instituted."
GERMANY BASED SITE: Has Many Masonic sites AND a good list of those
exposing Freemasonry:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/8343/hyplink.htm
ISLAM HAS TAKEN OVER A BAPTIST CHURCH VIA THE SHRINE:
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/apostasy.htm
BIBLE BELIEVER TELLS THE SOURCE OF FREEMASONRY:
http://www.fastboot.com/mystery_babylon.html
<http://www.fastboot.com/mystery_babylon.html>
HOW FREEMASONS DESTROY A ZEALOUS PASTOR:
<http://www.ephesians5-11.org/stoney.htm>
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/stoney.htm
NEW PAGE OF FAMOUS MASONS:
<http://www.religion-cults.com/Secret/Freemasonry/Freemasonry-2.htm#FAMOUS
MASONS>
http://www.religion-cults.com/Secret/Freemasonry/Freemasonry-2.htm#FAMOUS
MASONS
AND LARGER DISCUSSION:
<http://www.religion-cults.com/Secret/Freemasonry/Freemasonry.htm>
http://www.religion-cults.com/Secret/Freemasonry/Freemasonry.htm
IS BILL CLINTON A FREEMASON: http://www.demolay.org/whatis.htm
<http://www.demolay.org/whatis/index.shtml>
A VERY REVEALING SITE- <http://www.cyberlink.ch/~koenig/> Showing
Associations of Freemasonry with the Occult in Europe and the UK.
PROOF THAT FREEMASONRY IS SUB-CHRISTIAN AND REJECTS SALVATION:
http://www.grandlodge-nc.org/religion.html Update: They dropped this
page
to hide from me.
LIST OF FAMOUS FREEMASONS,
http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/famous.htm
<http://web.archive.org/web/19990218163349/http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/
famous.htm> and http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/default.htm This
one is
the Masonic Home Page. Here is another of interest:
http://mendocinomasons.org/famous.htm and,
http://www2.linknet.net/masonic/famous.htm#other Update: They
dropped
this page to hide from me. It is a blessing to know we hit the
target.
HERE IS A GOOD LINK TO DEAL WITH THE ZIONIST CONNECTIONS TO
FREEMASONRY:
This one disappeared. These guys are really running from us. Why?
REPRINTS OF RECENTLY DISCOVERED WORKS OF ALBERT PIKE AND OTHER MASONS
regarding rituals and oaths of Freemasonry:
http://diamondsports.com:80/nalybi/NewFreemasonry.html
<http://web.archive.org/web/19970630012321/http://www.diamondsports.com/naly
bi/NewFreemasonry.html>
Update: They dropped this page to hide from me.
SHOWING THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN FREEMASONRY AND WITCHCRAFT:
<http://home.ptd.net/~magog/apopage2.htm>
http://home.ptd.net/~magog/apopage2.htm
EPHESIANS 5:11-- Seems like a good group, and they have some good
material,
but they won't give the identity of their people, so I have to assume
that
this means some ecumenism as with anti-abortion ministries:
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/whower.htm
_____
<http://www.blessedquietness.com/goathead.gif> LINKS VIA THE ENEMY'S
HARD
WORK
Never have we been so well served by our enemies.
Freemasons compiled a large site "exposing" us weird Bible believers
and a number of ungodly people who hate Freemasonry.
So, we have passed the links on to you. The sarcastic and hateful
comments
of the editor of the site are left as-is to show how Masons hate Bible
believers.
Thanks to Freemasons out there who let the cat out of the bag.
CAUTION: We have to add a disclaimer to the following since several
are odd or heretical regarding the Truth of the Word of God.
We added them since they may have content of use to you.
At the left is Baphomet, the Satanic Masonic symbol of power.
Freemasons worship Satan:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/1o5.htm
Acacia: http://www.crocker.com/~acacia/index.html
Larry Kunk, Former Freemason: http://www.ephesians5-11.org/
Duane Washum: http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ex_masons_for_jesus/
Cephas Ministries: http://members.aol.com/litetomasn/
Chick Publications-- The Curse of Baphomet:
<http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_1.htm>
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_1.htm
Cutting Edge: http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1084.cfm
Also: http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html
Jim Shaw (According to my sources, Shaw claimed he came into
Freemasonry
at the highest degree with Ronald Reagan and Billy Graham,
and was later snuffed in a mysterious manner.):
<http://www.ephesians5-11.org/document.htm>
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/document.htm
David Icke: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/rense.html
Bill Schnoebelen (Member of Occult version of Freemasonry):
http://www.withoneaccord.org/
Demonbusters: http://www.demonbuster.com/z6masons.html
Cosmic Christmas-- Birth of the Sun God:
http://www.demonbuster.com/z6masons.htm
<http://www.demonbuster.com/z6masons.html>
William A. BeVier - The president of an organization called 'Religion
Analysis Service, Inc.' of Robbinsdale, Minnesota, USA. a supposedly
"non-profit interdenominational ministry dedicated to combating false
teachings through the printing and distributing of literature covering
a
large number of cults." Their organization lists anti-Mason Ron
Carlson on
their 'Board of Reference'. Apparently the business of deceit is
profitable
for them as their <http://www.ras.org/> web site
Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz- The evangelical Roman Catholic Bishop of
Lincoln,
Nebraska who in 1996 threatened mass excommunication of parishioners
if they
didn't terminate membership in or support of Freemasonry.
Lora Burton- A "former Rainbow girl" supposedly for nine years, she
claims
that she suffered spiritual and psychological abuse from her
membership. She
has founded "Rooftop Ministries" to counter cults, especially
Freemasonry.
Daniel D. Carlen- An anti-Masonic Baptist who had a bi-vocational
ministry.
ephesians5-11- here <http://www.ephesians5-11.org/carlen.htm> .
Ron Carlson- Pastor Carlson's tape about the 'evils' of Freemasonry
achieved
widespread distribution in the late 1980s-early 1990s.
Anton Chaitkin- Writing as a correspondent for Lyndon LaRouche, Mr.
Chaitkin
is described by the LaRouche camp as a "historian and investigative
reporter". <http://www.etext.org/Politics/LaRouche/pikefall.txt> Here
'Pastor' Tony Ciarlante- Leader of another of the many online
'Ministries',
appears to be a strong supporter of Jack Harris. You can find his
website
here <http://www.angelfire.com/pa/faithandfire/> .
Dan Cormer- With his <http://www.voicenet.com/~gospel/> Evangelical
Outreach website.
John Daniel- <http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/scarlet1.htm> here
William Deagle- One of the 'leading lights' of
<http://www.prophecyclub.com/> "The Prophecy Club"
Pierce Dodson- here <http://www.ephesians5-11.org/dodson.htm>
Ralph Epperson- here <http://www.syninfo.com/Epperson/>
Billy Evertsen- <http://members.tripod.com/~cprm/> web site
Mark A. Flynn- 'Watcher' web <http://www.mt.net/~watcher/new.html>
site
Tony Gosling- web site <http://www.tlio.demon.co.uk/masons.htm>
Anthony Grigor-Scott- <http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/> "Bible
Believers"
in Australia.
Larry Edw Hall- <http://www.luciferlink.org/> here
Walton Hannah- Not a 'current' anti-Mason, Hannah's name during the
1950s
and 1960s was well recognized for his publication of "Darkness
Visible: A
Revelation & Interpretation of Freemasonry".
Chuck Helton-
<http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ex_masons_for_jesus/helton.htm>
here
Michael A. Hoffman, II- <http://www.hoffman-info.com/> website
Mark E. Howerter- ' <http://www.otherside.net/intoler.htm> Intolerance
International
Stan Johnson- The founder and a director of "The Prophecy Club"
<http://www.prophecyclub.com/> .
Jim Keith- <http://www.illuminetpress.com/ca3txt.html> Iluminet Press
Stan and Elizabeth Madrak- Self-described as "Demon-Busters"--
<http://www.demonbuster.com/> their web site
Thomas C. McKenney- this page
<file:///G%7C/website/journal/resource/shaw.htm> devoted to Jim Shaw
to
discredit Masonry.
Rick Miesel- Baptist who has created a web-based 'Bible Discernment
Ministries' <http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/> .
Robert E. Miner- Mr. Miner has written: "I, too, was a Master Mason
who had
never followed the admonishment given to me when I received the Bible
in the
lodge: "Masonry admonishes each of its votaries to diligently search
the
Scriptures, for therein they will find the way to everlasting life."
Finally, due to the love and prayers of a friend, and the working of
the
Holy Spirit as I read the Word of God, I was set free from sin and
made
alive to Christ! This is no secret! And all the world should about it!
I
thank God for those who are sharing truth for the unbeliever to find
God's
intended relationship with Him in Jesus Christ, and for those who are
educating the Church about the things done in darkness so that the
Church
may lead others into the True Light. May God bless this ministry as it
seeks
to glorify Him and win others to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ."
Gordon "Jack" Mohr- A 'work' of his can be found here
<http://home.arkansasusa.com/dlackey/Talmudintro.htm>
Dr. Stanley Monteith- This individual has spent some 37 years
researching
the supposed covert Illuminati movements that he thinks have shaped
the
twentieth century. He claims to be one of the world's leading
authorities on
Professor Caroll Quigley - U.S. President Clinton's mentor. He claims
to
know some "covert motivation" of those working to create world
government
with special emphasis on the supposed "Rhodes Scholar" secret society
which
Cecil Rhodes created in 1891. He also claims to know true origin of
communism and socialism and ties several groups together including the
Federal Reserve System, Int'l. Finance, tax-exempt foundations, the
Jesuits,
the Lucus Trust, the Masons, the Skull and Bones & Theosophy Society,
Ancient Mystical Order of the Rosicrucians, the Council on Foreign
Relations, The Bildebergers, the Trilateral Commission, and more.
Michael Jerome Pardo- His 'Universalway <http://www.universalway.org/>
'
site has his essays.
Rev. David Pawson- During the early 1970's, tape copies of a series of
programs about cults, probably in 1969, received wide distribution.
Zander Raines-- Compuserve members will recognize Mr. Raines' posts by
his
closing signature of "MARANATHA". An employee of a state affiliate of
the
Christian Coalition
Raybert- An online 'buddy' of Greg Lambert, A Raybert post- "In my
research,
I have found that the masonic lodge is out to destroy all forms of
religion,
from within, and bring about a one world religion. Their religion.
This I do
not agree with. And I will do all I can to prevent it. If masonry
wants to
be a religion, that's fine with me. But I have seen much evidence that
masons are members of say, a Christian Church. Are preacher or elders
and
yet they admit that they are Witches. They say that the bible is not
God's
word. They say it is nothing but man's work. They say that what is
written
in it is not true. Only stories made up by men. Now, a person like
this,
that is a member and hierarchy of a Christian Church is teaching
others
religion. What exactly are they teaching them. Not Christianity! In my
opinion, the lodge has infiltrated all forms of religions and is
pushing the
occult, pagan mystery religions, which they are taught and brainwashed
into
believing in the masonic degree work and the masonic literature. You
can
pick up any book written by any masonic author and they compare the
ancient
mystery religions of Egypt with Christianity and tell the readers that
these
mystery religions are the true religion. They tell the reader that
these
pagan mystery religions had two worships. One for the masses and one
for the
initiates. The tell the readers that only the initiates learned the
true
religion. They tell the reader that masonry teaches the true religion.
Most
masonic authors admit that masonry is a religion and that it is the
true
religion. Anyway, you get the point. I am against anyone out to
destroy any
religion. And that, IMHO, is exactly what the lodge is trying to do.
Their
agenda. Now the masons will say I am lying and that I am nuts. The
problem
is that it is all out there for anyone to see if you know where to
look. All
it takes is the effort to look. Their worst enemy is their own masonic
authors. That is why, when I quote one of them, I give the book title
and
page. That way, anyone that wants the truth, can see for themselves."
Stoney Shaw- A pastor, this individual had a major problem with his
first
church - He claims he was attacked by 'witchcraft' of Freemasonry.
He's
found support from the <http://www.ephesians5-11.org/stoney.htm>
Ephesians5-11.org web site.
Harmon Taylor- This individual was one of the several Grand Chaplains
of the
Grand Lodge of New York a couple of decades ago and his Testimony
circulates
on the Internet.
Roger Thibault- A New World Order exposer, Politics, heretical
religion; you
can find his 'take' on his web site. Freemasonry is, in his mind, also
part
of the One World plan. His <http://www.yellowstone.com/> Yellowstone
web
site
John Whitley- Another of the conspiracy theorists, Whitley has for
some time
had a web site <http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley> featuring all
sorts of
things.
Charles W. (Charlie) Wiley- Given credit
<http://www.ephesians5-11.org/howwhy.htm> by Larry Kunk for having
started
the "Ministries to Masons" conference.
Matthew Williams- Another of the conspiracy theory group, this
individual is
from the United Kingdom where he ascribes all sorts of unusual demonic
symbology to the crest of the United Grand Lodge of England. On his
<http://www.truthseekers.freeserve.co.uk/> web site, you can also find
out
about those World War II bunkers in England!
John Yonge- Believes in 'pre-tribulationism', here is a quote-- "You
do
realize that Masons are all over the world using these sorts of
symbols, and
have been for centuries, and while they do in fact reflect the
anti-Christ
in ways, you cannot use such symbolism to identify the anti-Christ
because
so many use the same symbols. By the same sort of reasoning, I could
proclaim a rock musician to be the anti-Christ just because he has a
"666"
and a red dragon on his record cover. The Masonic training in Prince
Charles
might get him to doing things that are quite anti-Christian, but so
what?
The fellow down your street and around the corner a bit is also a
high-level
Mason participating in the same sort of occultic ceremonies and
training his
mind in the same way. I understand that the eagle on the dollar bill
has 32
feathers on one side and 33 on the other, where these would represent
the
highest degrees in Masonry. This sort of thing is wide-spread, so
ignore it
when it comes to identifying the anti-Christ." Read his thoughts
yourself
right here <http://www.neptune.on.ca/~jyonge/charles.htm> .
Steve
JB
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SteveZ
<cplpun...@charter.net> wrote:
>No it is not a religion.
>
>Freemasonry is a select group of men who come together in unity and assist
>each other on making men better men through symbolism of all cultures, for
>the sole cause of character building. Are there similarities in Masonry and
>in a religion such as morals and ethics... yes. But a religion we are not. I
>am a born again Christian and my worship of my God takes place in a church.
>I go to the lodge to better prepare myself at being a humanitarian and a
>friend to my fellow brothers in masonry. As do all masons in a regular AF&AM
>lodge.
And you fool yourself in that saying you are a Born Again Christian,
Freemasonry is not compatible with Christianity, you can't serve two
masters, all Freemasons will be in Hell, they need to renounce
Freemasonry and leave the lodges.
We need to leave all churches that have Freemasons as their Pastors,
and vote in new deacons when a Freemason is there.
Anyone attending the Crystal Cathedral under Robert Schuler should
leave very quickly, he is a Freemason and Satanist Ecumenical leader.
Steve
Bob
news:10hk338...@corp.supernews.com...
> No it is not a religion.
You just haven't got high enough up to find out what it really is.
>
> Freemasonry is a select group of men who come together in unity and assist
> each other on making men better men through symbolism of all cultures, for
> the sole cause of character building. Are there similarities in Masonry
and
> in a religion such as morals and ethics... yes. But a religion we are not.
I
> am a born again Christian and my worship of my God takes place in a
church.
You can't be a born again Christian and a Freemason, IMHO. Freemasonry
has its own mongrel blasphemous deity.
Bob<><
Hammond of Texas
> Got news for you Jimbo, freemasonry IS a religion!
You are a liar too, Frank.
Hammond of Texas
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:35:11 -0700, Hammond of Texas
> <spammer...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <dd8jh014svgam5edn...@4ax.com>, Stevez176
>>@nospam.com says...
>>
>>
>>>Freemasonry is a religion.
>>
>>Steve likes to be contrary. He knows that Freemasonry is not a religion.
>>He's been fairly inundated with proof of this. He offers nothing, other
>>than his bald assertion.
Oh..., and more lies, like these:
>
> FREEMASONRY We include Freemasonry as a cult because it is a
> religion, and it claims to honor the God of the Bible.
Nothing like proof. Just more bald assertion of that which is not.
Hammond of Texas
> You can't be a born again Christian and a Freemason, IMHO. Freemasonry
> has its own mongrel blasphemous deity.
Oh? What deity would that be, Bob?
Fair warning: You'd better be prepared to offer up more substantial
proof your own assertion, and that of others. We've heard this before,
many times, and will make you look like a fool if you trot out the same
lame cut-and-paste proof that Steve and his ilk have. It would probably
be ..."better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your
mouth again and remove all doubt."
SteveZ
To late Hammerhead, you have shown to be the biggest fool here.
Don't you dare tell anyone to shut up.
Larry
> Steve is a liar.
Objection: redundant.
Hammond of Texas
@nospam.com says...
Shut up, Steve. Bob did, and look how smart he appears next to you right
now.
Just trying to help...
Ed King
> To late Hammerhead, you have shown to be the biggest fool here.
<ROFL> So is THIS the way Jesus teaches you to preach his love?
How very interesting....
> Don't you dare tell anyone to shut up.
Shut up, Steve.
Or go off and write another message to yourself telling yourself how great you
think you are!
What a loser....
Ed King
http://www.masonicinfo.com -- Anti-Masonry: Points of View
Internet newsgroup posting. Copyright 2004. All rights reserved.
Ed King
> And you fool yourself in that saying you are a Born Again Christian,
> Freemasonry is not compatible with Christianity, you can't serve two
> masters, all Freemasons will be in Hell, they need to renounce
> Freemasonry and leave the lodges.
Well, when you get to Hell, drop us a note, ok?
Maybe you can even post yourself a congratulatory message with a
pseudonym like you did a few days ago! <ROFL>
> We need to leave all churches that have Freemasons as their Pastors,
> and vote in new deacons when a Freemason is there.
Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.
> Anyone attending the Crystal Cathedral under Robert Schuler should
> leave very quickly, he is a Freemason and Satanist Ecumenical leader.
Really? What lodge does he belong to? Surely you can answer that, can't you?
Frank Trebor
"Jim Bennie" <jgbe...@vcn.bc.ca> wrote ...
>Frank Trebor <frank_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Jim Bennie" <jgbe...@vcn.bc.ca> wrote ...
> > Got news for you Jimbo, freemasonry IS a religion!
> You'd better find a new news service, Frank. The one you're using has
> been feeding you malarky.
Jim, I use the same service as you, therefore, it is YOU that
is reading incorrectly.
Get out of freemasonry, and get a life Jimbo,
otherwise you WILL die the second death!
BTW, don't bother removing "alt.freemasonry " from the address
as I WILL just put it back........................
Ed King
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:35:11 -0700, Hammond of Texas
> <spammer...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >Steve is a liar.
>
> Nope, Freemasons are the Liars, here's some more proof to squeal
> about:
Hey Steve: isn't it about time to send a post to yourself congratulating
yourself on your great post?
<ROFL>
Loser!