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The Catholic Church Is Apparently Fine With Child Abuse as Long as Priests Move Around a Lot
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Miloch
Mar 8, 2020, 4:16:57 PM3/8/20
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https://jezebel.com/the-catholic-church-is-apparently-fine-with-child-abuse-1842193745
more at
https://www.propublica.org/article/dozens-of-catholic-priests-credibly-accused-of-abuse-found-work-abroad-some-with-the-churchs-blessing
The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
Dioceses have attempted to hide it, to payout survivors of abuse, and now,
according to a report released by ProPublica in conjunction with the Houston
Chronicle, it would appear priests who’ve been credibly accused of abuse have
been finding work in new dioceses abroad with the Church’s blessing.
Starting in 2018, U.S. dioceses began compiling and releasing lists of priests
in their churches who have been credibly accused of sexual abuse. ProPublica and
the Chronicle analyzed 52 of those lists, 30 of which had the highest number of
credibly accused clergy, and found that 51 people on those lists were able to
find work in the Church abroad, some still working with children.
n certain cases, as with Rev. Jose Antonio Pinal, the report found that priests
were not only able to find work in the Catholic Church again but were supported
by fellow clergy and by various dioceses themselves. Pinal, for example, was
kept on the Sacramento payroll so that he might more easily find a new
assignment in Mexico, where he currently lives and serves.
And, unsurprisingly, it would appear that no amount of time spent continuing to
work as a priest, allegedly someone meant to be an example of, facilitate, and
inspire an understanding of God and all their goodness, has provided Pinal any
kind of remorse for the abuse he’s accused of.
“His only advantage over me is that when this happened, he was a minor,” Pinal
said of Ricardo Torres, who alleges he was assaulted by Pinal at 15, “So,
legally, I am screwed. Because of this I had to leave the diocese and the United
States, as you mentioned, for a long period of time (5-6 years).”
Not exactly the kind of response you’d hope to hear from a person who is
alleging to be part of God’s presence on earth, but then again it remains
consistent with kind of attitude the Catholic Church has had regarding these
allegations from the beginning. Pinal, for his part, has multiple letters from
the bishop of his diocese where he was accused, encouraging and supporting his
continued work in the Church years after the allegations were brought forward
and he fled.
“This was a grave failure of judgment and a betrayal of trust,” the current
bishop of Pina’s former dioceses said “The safety of children is our highest
priority. In 1989, those in leadership failed to do so. I must own and atone for
this.” Which, to be honest, just sounds like a lot of empty words coming from a
largely empty institution that, regardless of how many times these kinds of
allegations have come forward, has refused to make any substantial attempt in
addressing the issue.
*
more at
https://www.propublica.org/article/dozens-of-catholic-priests-credibly-accused-of-abuse-found-work-abroad-some-with-the-churchs-blessing
The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
Dioceses have attempted to hide it, to payout survivors of abuse, and now,
according to a report released by ProPublica in conjunction with the Houston
Chronicle, it would appear priests who’ve been credibly accused of abuse have
been finding work in new dioceses abroad with the Church’s blessing.
Starting in 2018, U.S. dioceses began compiling and releasing lists of priests
in their churches who have been credibly accused of sexual abuse. ProPublica and
the Chronicle analyzed 52 of those lists, 30 of which had the highest number of
credibly accused clergy, and found that 51 people on those lists were able to
find work in the Church abroad, some still working with children.
n certain cases, as with Rev. Jose Antonio Pinal, the report found that priests
were not only able to find work in the Catholic Church again but were supported
by fellow clergy and by various dioceses themselves. Pinal, for example, was
kept on the Sacramento payroll so that he might more easily find a new
assignment in Mexico, where he currently lives and serves.
And, unsurprisingly, it would appear that no amount of time spent continuing to
work as a priest, allegedly someone meant to be an example of, facilitate, and
inspire an understanding of God and all their goodness, has provided Pinal any
kind of remorse for the abuse he’s accused of.
“His only advantage over me is that when this happened, he was a minor,” Pinal
said of Ricardo Torres, who alleges he was assaulted by Pinal at 15, “So,
legally, I am screwed. Because of this I had to leave the diocese and the United
States, as you mentioned, for a long period of time (5-6 years).”
Not exactly the kind of response you’d hope to hear from a person who is
alleging to be part of God’s presence on earth, but then again it remains
consistent with kind of attitude the Catholic Church has had regarding these
allegations from the beginning. Pinal, for his part, has multiple letters from
the bishop of his diocese where he was accused, encouraging and supporting his
continued work in the Church years after the allegations were brought forward
and he fled.
“This was a grave failure of judgment and a betrayal of trust,” the current
bishop of Pina’s former dioceses said “The safety of children is our highest
priority. In 1989, those in leadership failed to do so. I must own and atone for
this.” Which, to be honest, just sounds like a lot of empty words coming from a
largely empty institution that, regardless of how many times these kinds of
allegations have come forward, has refused to make any substantial attempt in
addressing the issue.
*
St.John Smythe
Mar 8, 2020, 10:35:18 PM3/8/20
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The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine,
a good cigar, and the bare rump of a young virgin choirboy!
-the dukester, Murikkkan-Murikkkan
duckg...@cox.net
Mar 9, 2020, 7:00:00 PM3/9/20
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On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>https://jezebel.com/the-catholic-church-is-apparently-fine-with-child-abuse-1842193745
>
>more at
>https://www.propublica.org/article/dozens-of-catholic-priests-credibly-accused-of-abuse-found-work-abroad-some-with-the-churchs-blessing
>
>The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
But no worse than any other part of male society.
>https://jezebel.com/the-catholic-church-is-apparently-fine-with-child-abuse-1842193745
>
>more at
>https://www.propublica.org/article/dozens-of-catholic-priests-credibly-accused-of-abuse-found-work-abroad-some-with-the-churchs-blessing
>
>The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
the dukester, American-American
Miloch
Mar 9, 2020, 7:26:25 PM3/9/20
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In article <lhid6fpsjq6o6oet5...@4ax.com>, duckg...@cox.net
says...
Dunno, Dukeman...as a teen, was a Lutheran church acolyte for a number of
years...don't recall any of the military Protestant chaplains playing
'touchy-feely' with me.
...of course I'm not sure about the Catholic chaplains.
*
>the dukester, American-American
>
says...
years...don't recall any of the military Protestant chaplains playing
'touchy-feely' with me.
...of course I'm not sure about the Catholic chaplains.
*
>the dukester, American-American
>
LinuxGal
Mar 9, 2020, 8:36:42 PM3/9/20
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--
I have spoken.
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
Miloch
Mar 9, 2020, 11:35:28 PM3/9/20
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In article <alpine.DEB.2.21.2003091734530.24772@teresita-Latitude-D630>,
LinuxGal says...
vagina?...soft, supple, and well lubricated I trust...
*
LinuxGal says...
>
>On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>>history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>
>> But no worse than any other part of male society.
>
>Ah, yes. The old "the other fellas do it too" defense.
>
Ah...you're back...your time away was productive I presume...and how's your
>On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>>history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>
>> But no worse than any other part of male society.
>
>Ah, yes. The old "the other fellas do it too" defense.
>
vagina?...soft, supple, and well lubricated I trust...
*
duckg...@cox.net
Mar 10, 2020, 6:34:32 PM3/10/20
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On 9 Mar 2020 16:26:10 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>In article <lhid6fpsjq6o6oet5...@4ax.com>, duckg...@cox.net
>says...
>>
>>On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>https://jezebel.com/the-catholic-church-is-apparently-fine-with-child-abuse-1842193745
>>>
>>>more at
>>>https://www.propublica.org/article/dozens-of-catholic-priests-credibly-accused-of-abuse-found-work-abroad-some-with-the-churchs-blessing
>>>
>>>The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>>history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>
>>But no worse than any other part of male society.
>
>Dunno, Dukeman...as a teen, was a Lutheran church acolyte for a number of
>years...don't recall any of the military Protestant chaplains playing
>'touchy-feely' with me.
Nor a priest touching me.
>In article <lhid6fpsjq6o6oet5...@4ax.com>, duckg...@cox.net
>says...
>>
>>On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>https://jezebel.com/the-catholic-church-is-apparently-fine-with-child-abuse-1842193745
>>>
>>>more at
>>>https://www.propublica.org/article/dozens-of-catholic-priests-credibly-accused-of-abuse-found-work-abroad-some-with-the-churchs-blessing
>>>
>>>The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>>history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>
>>But no worse than any other part of male society.
>
>Dunno, Dukeman...as a teen, was a Lutheran church acolyte for a number of
>years...don't recall any of the military Protestant chaplains playing
>'touchy-feely' with me.
>...of course I'm not sure about the Catholic chaplains.
>
>
>
>*
>
>
>
>
>>the dukester, American-American
>>
the dukester, American-American
duckg...@cox.net
Mar 10, 2020, 6:35:16 PM3/10/20
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 17:35:34 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>> history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>
>> But no worse than any other part of male society.
>
>Ah, yes. The old "the other fellas do it too" defense.
Then why don't the fools admit they understand that too.
>On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>> history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>
>> But no worse than any other part of male society.
>
>Ah, yes. The old "the other fellas do it too" defense.
the dukester, American-American
duckg...@cox.net
Mar 10, 2020, 6:45:06 PM3/10/20
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the dukester, American-American
LinuxGal
Mar 10, 2020, 8:32:13 PM3/10/20
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duckg...@cox.net
Mar 13, 2020, 2:15:04 PM3/13/20
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 17:31:32 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 17:35:34 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>>>> history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>>>
>>>> But no worse than any other part of male society.
>>>
>>> Ah, yes. The old "the other fellas do it too" defense.
>>
>> Then why don't the fools admit they understand that too.
Whyh are you so anxious to see the pedo issue continue in other parts of
>On Tue, 10 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 17:35:34 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8 Mar 2020 13:16:46 -0700, Miloch <Miloch...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church has a well-documented, albeit severely under-addressed,
>>>>> history of child abuse that has occurred at the hands of its priest for decades.
>>>>
>>>> But no worse than any other part of male society.
>>>
>>> Ah, yes. The old "the other fellas do it too" defense.
>>
>> Then why don't the fools admit they understand that too.
society. It's so prevalent in other parts of society that is not RCC related
and that's ok with you.
>Because it's a shit-poor excuse that toddlers invented.
Mattb
Mar 14, 2020, 9:07:10 PM3/14/20
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to condemn and forgive for sin? Wouldn't such men not be pedophiles?
Are you claiming they are fakes and all confessions done by them is
false?
>the dukester, American-American
tesla sTinker
Mar 15, 2020, 1:02:56 AM3/15/20
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oh your so full of shit, what a crock of crap.
YOU, do not believe in God.
what does this say? Leviticus. Home of the Levis.
"Of all the tithes of oxen, and sheep, and goats, that pass under the
shepherd's rod, every tenth that cometh shall be sanctified to the Lord. "
And that means buster, you owe Him one tenth of what comes to you. And
you cannot do that? Ha, wait until you meet your maker. He will laugh
at your ass. And if you think Cesar has a say, that is an ass hole if I
ever seen of one. God has set His Precept laws, and that, is not one of
them. Go to hell Novus Ordo Freemasons. You, are targeted mother
fuckers. And are not Popes. And if you do not know what a rifle scope
is, your more dumb than the fucking donald duck Trump idiot who loves
you. What a quack. Its obvious, you do not believe in God. You are
really scared of them the rotten satanist. Ha. Wait until God, sends
them to hell. Then what ar
On 3/8/2020 1:16 PM, Miloch scribbled:
YOU, do not believe in God.
what does this say? Leviticus. Home of the Levis.
"Of all the tithes of oxen, and sheep, and goats, that pass under the
shepherd's rod, every tenth that cometh shall be sanctified to the Lord. "
And that means buster, you owe Him one tenth of what comes to you. And
you cannot do that? Ha, wait until you meet your maker. He will laugh
at your ass. And if you think Cesar has a say, that is an ass hole if I
ever seen of one. God has set His Precept laws, and that, is not one of
them. Go to hell Novus Ordo Freemasons. You, are targeted mother
fuckers. And are not Popes. And if you do not know what a rifle scope
is, your more dumb than the fucking donald duck Trump idiot who loves
you. What a quack. Its obvious, you do not believe in God. You are
really scared of them the rotten satanist. Ha. Wait until God, sends
them to hell. Then what ar
On 3/8/2020 1:16 PM, Miloch scribbled:
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