Coors East of the Mississippi (was: Beer Distribution Bans)
Rev Chuck
>
> On 17 Feb 1999 01:34:47 +0100, Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
>
> >My son and I were watching "Smokey and the Bandit" again which seems
> >to be shown at least once every two weeks on one channel or another
> >and we got into discussing the various urban legends in the movie.
> >Like the one where the truck driver gets beat up by a bunch of biker
> >punks in a greasy spoon and then manages to exact revenge by driving
> >over all the motorcycles parked outside as he was leaving. I doubt
> >that one ever happened - it's just too good :o) "He wasn't much of
> >a man." "Well, he wasn't much of a driver either - he just ran over
> >twenty Harleys parked outside."
> >
> >But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
> >of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
> >Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
> >coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
>
> You've got to be kidding me. Not about the possible ban, but "Coors"
> and "prized"? The two words are almost antonyms.
>
> Bob Vesterman.
> --
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Hell, it _must_ be a prized commodity, judging by the way they dilute it.
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Anonymous wrote:
> Like the one where the truck driver gets beat up by a bunch of biker
> punks in a greasy spoon and then manages to exact revenge by driving
> over all the motorcycles parked outside as he was leaving.
I liked it better when Pee-Wee danced in the platform shoes tothe tune of
"Tequila"....
;-]
> But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
> of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
> Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
> coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
As other people have posted, because they figured the unpasturized beer
would not keep "cross-country". Now it's bottled in other places (one is
in nearby Virginia) using "Shenendoah" water instead of "golden colorado"
water.
BTW (you would be giving your age away if you can answer this one:)
Does anyone remember the "push-button" cans?? Didn't have a pull tab. It
had 2 "buttons". A small one (about the size of a large pencil eraser) that
you pushed first to "vent" it, the a larger one that you drink out of. I
never
read any stories about it, but I'm sure they switch after people sliced
their
thumbs open after one-too-many.......
JEFFREY M STANLEY
not make enough beer to supply the whole U.S. Regional brews that are not
locally available are always smuggled. Untill a year ago there were people
bringing in cases of st ides kiwi strawberry flavored "beer" in the trunk of
their car where I live. Maby some of those gangster rappers who think they
are actors can make their own version of smoky and the bandit. They can
call it Five Oh and "G" Money. Why not, two of Kenny Rogers' songs are raps
now.
Dr H
On 17 Feb 1999, Anonymous wrote:
}But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
}of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
}Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
}coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
Not "prohibited" per se, at least not where I grew up. But it just
wasn't distributed everywhere then as it is now. Some states (Oregon,
for example) used to have a rule that said any beer sold in cans
or bottles (not kegs) had to be pasteurized, and Coors is hard-filtered,
not parteurized. There might have been states east of the Mississippi
for which this was also true.
Coors had something of a mystique in the east since it was hard to
come by. Everytime someone we knew went anywhere near Colorado
they were exhorted to bring back as much Coors as they could. It
-did- taste different from Bud and Miller, and thus we imagined we
were getting something special and illicit.
Now we know better. :-)
Dr H
jw_steve
>and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback) didn't think of the
>mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
Yuengling is doing quite well, and fighting the good fight I might add. I
believe
Schmidt's is still around. Not sure about hohenadel.
jw steve
>Who would kill right now for a bottle of Rolling Rock
Speaking of mystique.
Anonymous
to be shown at least once every two weeks on one channel or another
and we got into discussing the various urban legends in the movie.
punks in a greasy spoon and then manages to exact revenge by driving
that one ever happened - it's just too good :o) "He wasn't much of
a man." "Well, he wasn't much of a driver either - he just ran over
twenty Harleys parked outside."
But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
Twiddle
Might anyone know what other commercial beers are also unpasteurized?
Twiddle
Robert William Vesterman
You've got to be kidding me. Not about the possible ban, but "Coors"
Don Scheidt
>On 17 Feb 1999 01:34:47 +0100, Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
>
>>[...]
>>
>>[...] Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
>>of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
>>Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
>>coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
>
>You've got to be kidding me. Not about the possible ban, but "Coors"
>and "prized"? The two words are almost antonyms.
Maybe so, but before Coors brewed and sold east of the Mississippi
(and became the third largest brewing company in the USA, too), it
was just plain not available in a lot of places, and as such, it
developed a mystique due to its scarcity. The mystique was easily
enough dispelled upon tasting a can or bottle of the stuff, when
it was revealed to be just another blandish megalager, although
there was still a detectable hop presence back in the early-to-mid
1970s (before Coors Light and the "Silver Bullet" ads).
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>> Coors is unpasteurized (relatively rare for commercial beers)...
>
>Might anyone know what other commercial beers are also unpasteurized?
Just about any beer sold in kegs is more likely to be unpasteurized
than not, especially most micro/craft brews. (Or don't the likes
of Sierra Nevada and Red Hook qualify as "commercial"?) Also, the
"Draft" in Miller Genuine Draft is supposed to imply cold-filtered
as opposed to pasteurized, as is true of other big-brewery beers
of this sort.
Twiddle
> enough dispelled upon tasting a can or bottle of the stuff, when
> it was revealed to be just another blandish megalager, although
> there was still a detectable hop presence back in the early-to-mid
> 1970s (before Coors Light and the "Silver Bullet" ads).
We used to kid a lot about the Coors Light stuff, especially when it was
first released. The standard:
"How do you brew Coors Light?"
"Put carbonated water in a can, then hold it near some beer."
Twiddle
Harsh
>My son and I were watching "Smokey and the Bandit" again which seems
>to be shown at least once every two weeks on one channel or another
>and we got into discussing the various urban legends in the movie.
>Like the one where the truck driver gets beat up by a bunch of biker
>punks in a greasy spoon and then manages to exact revenge by driving
>over all the motorcycles parked outside as he was leaving. I doubt
>that one ever happened - it's just too good :o) "He wasn't much of
>a man." "Well, he wasn't much of a driver either - he just ran over
>twenty Harleys parked outside."
>
>But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
>of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
>Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
>coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
>
>
No, Coors wasn't as big then as they are now. And they didn't
distribute that far from their brewery. Weither it be the cost of
shipping or The beer going bad from the long jounrey. They now have
a brewery on the east coast. (Read your can very closely, It may not
be mountain water in it) I rember back in the seventies, on vaction,
my dad bought some in Colorado. He thought it sucked BAD. Oh well.
Harsh
John Simutis
: BTW (you would be giving your age away if you can answer this one:)
Regrettably, just because I give it away does not mean anyone has to
-take- it.
: Does anyone remember the "push-button" cans?? Didn't have a pull tab. It
: had 2 "buttons". A small one (about the size of a large pencil eraser) that
: you pushed first to "vent" it, the a larger one that you drink out of. I
: never
: read any stories about it, but I'm sure they switch after people sliced
: their
: thumbs open after one-too-many.......
Sure. There was even a plastic thingy, a circular cap with 2 protrusions
aligned with the buttons, to open those cans 'safely'.
I thought full-'strength' Coors at the brewery was actually decent. Of
course, the only way it's any good these days is with a shot of Lagavulin
16 poured in it.
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Tim Robinson
>> Coors is unpasteurized (relatively rare for commercial beers)...
>
>Might anyone know what other commercial beers are also unpasteurized?
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Chimay Red, Chimay Gold, and every weizen I've
ever drunk. Bob Klein's "Beer Lovers Rating Guide" lists several
thousand beers. Despite the original assertion of "relatively rare" I
would say that it's only rare if you consider the top 5 brewers in the
US. But it's not particularly rare if you include the other several
thousand commercial beers companies and distributors, and add to that
local brewpubs. By the time that's done, it's not a rarity, it's the
majority that don't pasteurize.
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Steve Smith
> You've got to be kidding me. Not about the possible ban, but "Coors"
> and "prized"? The two words are almost antonyms.
When I was in college in Arizona (mumble) years ago, Coors was what you
got if you couldn't afford anything decent, but weren't desperate enough
for Brown Derby (US$0.89 for a sixpack. Not worth it.)
A few years later, I moved to the East Coast, and the ultra- cool,
obtainable only at astronomical prices, beer was Coors. I tried a can,
carefully coddled all the way from Oklahoma by a friend. Same stuff.
Then all the East Coast intellegensia found out about Joe Coors'
politics (brings new meaning to the phrase "right wing".) Suddenly it
didn't taste good any more. It wasn't that they stopped drinking the
stuff because they didn't like his politics -- the taste changed.
My observation, anyway, is that most beer drinkers don't really like the
stuff, and just drink it to get plastered. How else to explain "Lite"
beer?
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Larry Palletti
> buo...@webspan.net (Robert William Vesterman) wrote:
>
> >On 17 Feb 1999 01:34:47 +0100, Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
> >
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>[...] Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
> >>of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
> >>Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
> >>coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
> >
> >You've got to be kidding me. Not about the possible ban, but "Coors"
> >and "prized"? The two words are almost antonyms.
>
> Maybe so, but before Coors brewed and sold east of the Mississippi
> (and became the third largest brewing company in the USA, too), it
> was just plain not available in a lot of places, and as such, it
> developed a mystique due to its scarcity. The mystique was easily
> enough dispelled upon tasting a can or bottle of the stuff, when
> it was revealed to be just another blandish megalager [...]
And a fine mystique it was. Don't know if Coors planned it that way, but it
sure worked. Bunches of US East Coast beer swillers could speak of nothing
else -- and at least some of the time, I'd guess, it was a matter of letting
us swine know how well-traveled they were.
In the Seventies, before Coors went national: at western US airports (Tucson
comes to mind; Phoenix; and certainly Denver), there were stacks of cases of
(quite unrefrigerated) Coors for sale at the lobby shops. Unstated but
implied: "Now you poor deprived Easterners can bring some Good Stuff home
with you."
Not sure how they justified airport sales with the claim that Coors had to be
kept refrigerated.
Later I found myself living in the West. Drank a bunch of Coors because I
thought I was supposed to. Even convinced myself that it was damned good
stuff -- again, because I was supposed to.
But then I discovered Olympia. Bye-bye Coors.
It's hard to beat the Coors marketing angle. Too bad Yuengling, Hohenadel,
and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback) didn't think of the
mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
Larry Palletti
Opinionated, but lovable
East Point/Atlanta, Georgia
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Twiddle
>
> >It's hard to beat the Coors marketing angle. Too bad Yuengling, Hohenadel,
> >and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback) didn't think of the
> >mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
>
> believe
> Schmidt's is still around. Not sure about hohenadel.
>
> jw steve
>
>
In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
were a local...
Now that I'm in Orlando, Florida and can easily buy Gennie again, I find
it isn't such a bad beer for a cheapie...
Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
Twiddle
Cary Kittrell
[...]
<
<Hell, it _must_ be a prized commodity, judging by the way they dilute it.
<
HA! Perfect!
Or, as a friend remarked, "Coors makes me feel like 'Oops, missed my
mouth' ".
-- cary
J. Michael Looney
> But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
> of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
> Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
> coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
It was not a legal issue, just that Coors didn't sell East of the
Mississippi. They claim it was because they could not insure that it would
be kept cold all the way to the east coast.
Bob Roland
>
> In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
> hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
> were a local...
Blech. Grew up in Buffalo, New York. Genny was one of the worst swill
in the world. Sadly, as a teenager the only beer you could ever get
reliably was beer stolen from inside someones garage. For some reason,
genny drinkers allways kept their green cans out there.
> Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
Black Label beer from Canada (Carling brewery). Affectionatly refered
to as "Black Labs". (the cooler they were kept in was refered to as the
"kennel". Hence, going to the 7-11 and getting a six pack was "Get some
black labs from the kennel")
Bob "Drunk on cheap swill" Roland
>
> Twiddle
Madeleine Page
: Twiddle wrote:
[stuff about beer]
Please would you guys check your headers before posting? You are sending
this discussion to several newsgroups for which it is completely
off-topic.
Thank you.
NJBigBill
distribution since they made a big deal about not being pastuerized, and
having to keep the beer cold... but when they went national, they brought
out a pasturized version (one is "banquent beer" the other is plain
"premium", but I forget which is which) ... you can be assured that Coors,
Coors Light, and Keystone that you get now is pasteurized.
Why is Coors Light like making love in a canoe? (F**king close to water!)
Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote in article
<1999021700...@replay.com>...
Madeleine Page
: Why is Coors Light like making love in a canoe? (F**king close to
: water!)
Thank you *so* much for sharing that joke with us. I'm sure eight of us
had not heard it before. Thank you, too, for sparing our blushes by
failing to write out "fucking" in full. And again our thanks for providing
an exclamation point at the end of your joke, so those of us who are
humour challenged knew when to laugh.
But many and varied as the delights of your posts are, could you confine
them to groups that like to discuss beer? Thankyouverymuch.
Madeleine "followups" Page
Joel_Plutchak
>>But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
>>of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
>>Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
>>coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
>
>and "prized"? The two words are almost antonyms.
Whatever the reason, the fact that Coors had a newar-mythical
status during the early seventies is true. My high-school marching
band went to Cheyenne one summer back then, and the band directors
and chaperones stocked the cargo holds of the buses with Coors.
Seems silly, but there it is.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him
yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
pw...@mailexcite.com
> Coors is unpasteurized (relatively rare for commercial beers), and for
> a long while insisted that the beer be kept continuously chilled during
> shipping. This made long shipments unprofitable (Coors is based in
> Colorado), and thus the beer was not commercially available east of the
> Mississippi.
Distributors still have refrigerated warehouses.
Joel_Plutchak
>Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
When I'm slummin', I pick up a six-pack of Samuel Adams, either
the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
W.R. Giacona
indeed illegal to possess in Arkansas because there was no distributor
for Coors in ARK. in the 70's(L). Hence, no way for the state to tax it,
which made it bootlegging to have it in the state.
I do remember when, in 79 or 80,(L) when Arkansas got its' first legal
Coors and Safeway[1] had a nice big display of it un-chilled right at
the front door.
[1]Large Grocery Chain
James Gifford
> A few years later, I moved to the East Coast, and the ultra- cool,
> obtainable only at astronomical prices, beer was Coors.
Just to point out the generality of "coveted brews," Rolling Rock was
not readily available out here in Californee until a few years ago. It
was served up as a premium offering by a few bar'n'grills until then.
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Larry Palletti (mince...@switchboardmail.com) wrote:
<snip>
: It's hard to beat the Coors marketing angle. Too bad Yuengling, Hohenadel,
: and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback) didn't think of the
: mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
Schmidts brewery is still here, operating down on 3rd (?) and Girard. I
forget who owns the company though. Seems to me it just sold to someone
like Labatts or something.
Yuengling is alive and going strong. Yuengling Lager is the beer of
choice here in Philadelphia, ordered at bars by walking up and saying
"lager." They'll know you mean Yuengling. At $11 or so for a case of 16
oz. returnables, Yuengling Premium Beer (their nearly flavorless
megabrewery style beer) is one of the best deals around. They also make
a light version of that beer, a porter, a black & tan, and Lord
Chesterfield Ale, which is a bitter-style ale. They were actually
expanding and shipping all over the damn place when they realized that
they couldn't keep up with supply, and subsequently restricted the
majority of their shipping (like 80% or so) to the PA, DE, NJ, and some
NY areas. Their web page is at (surprise surprise) www.yuengling.com.
Hohenadel is no more as far as I know.
Ortlieb's just got bought by one of the descendents of the original
founder, and after a long court battle, is going to be produced again, by
one of the local brewing companies around here.
Jas.
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Robert William Vesterman
wrote:
>Steve Smith wrote:
>> A few years later, I moved to the East Coast, and the ultra- cool,
>> obtainable only at astronomical prices, beer was Coors.
>
>Just to point out the generality of "coveted brews," Rolling Rock was
>not readily available out here in Californee until a few years ago. It
>was served up as a premium offering by a few bar'n'grills until then.
This is just so ridiculous. I could see people wanting to try a
regional rarity like Coors or Rolling Rock once, but come on, the
stuff is crap. Who's going to try it twice, after expecting something
mystical the first time?
Rolling Rock is, I suppose, not too bad, for a bad beer. But that's
the best I can bring myself to say about it. Coors, on the other
hand....
jw steve
wrote:
>Steve Smith wrote:
>> A few years later, I moved to the East Coast, and the ultra- cool,
>> obtainable only at astronomical prices, beer was Coors.
>
>Just to point out the generality of "coveted brews," Rolling Rock was
>not readily available out here in Californee until a few years ago. It
>was served up as a premium offering by a few bar'n'grills until then.
>
I am still absolutely astounded by the rest of the world's fascination
with Rolling Rock. I truly believe it stems from the green bottle and
the "33" on the back. The beer is pretty uninspired to begin with,
coupled with it's typical skunkiness, I find it undrinkable.
jw steve
mlo...@pop.slip.net
> Does anyone remember the "push-button" cans?? Didn't have a pull tab. It
> had 2 "buttons". A small one (about the size of a large pencil eraser) that
> you pushed first to "vent" it, the a larger one that you drink out of. I
> never read any stories about it, but I'm sure they switch after people sliced
> their thumbs open after one-too-many.......
As I recall, there were several attempted solutions to the pull-tab
problem (people would discard the pull tabs, which would be eaten by
birds, which would then, err, begin to pine for the fjords), before
the can industry stabilized on the current captive-lever system. The
push-button one was tried, but it had a number of drawback (difficult
to use, sliced-up fingers, &c). For non-carbonated drinks, they tried
sealing the can with a piece of strong aluminized mylar, roughly the
shape of a pull tab) glued over the opening.
M.
Larry Palletti
jw_steve wrote:
> >Larry Palletti wrote: >It's hard to beat the Coors marketing angle. Too bad
> Yuengling, >Hohenadel, and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback)
> didn't think of the
> >mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
>
> Yuengling is doing quite well, and fighting the good fight I might add. I
> believe
> Schmidt's is still around. Not sure about hohenadel.
>
> jw steve
>
> >Who would kill right now for a bottle of Rolling Rock
>
> Speaking of mystique.
Nuh-uh. Swilled RR back in the Fifties when us South Philly hoodlums called
it "Rockin' Roll." And that was even before the days of Rock 'n Roll music. It
tasted pretty damned good then, back when it cost no more than that panther piss
that Schmidt's put out. Today: just as good. (De gustibus etc etc etc).
Glad to hear Yuengling is still around.
Larry Palletti
Opinionated, but lovable
East Point/Atlanta, Georgia
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panther piss...
Brian B. Rodenborn
W.R. Giacona <w...@arkansas.net> wrote:
>It wasn't "East of the Mississippi", it was East of Texarkana. Coors was
>indeed illegal to possess in Arkansas because there was no distributor
>for Coors in ARK. in the 70's(L). Hence, no way for the state to tax it,
>which made it bootlegging to have it in the state.
>
Coors was not available in St. Louis in the 70's either. My understanding
at the time (it may have been incorrect) was that Coors and Anheuser-Busch
had a non-compete agreement for various areas. So Coors didn't sell in
AB's backyard, and Bud wasn't available in Colorado.
When I went on a spring break trip to Padre Island in my freshman year,
the drinking age in Texas was still 18. So, many people were quite excited
about being able to purchase the fabled Coors beer. By about day three
of the trip, virtually everyone was drinking Lone Star.
JEFFREY M STANLEY
>out a pasturized version (one is "banquent beer" the other is plain
>"premium", but I forget which is which) ... you can be assured that Coors,
>Coors Light, and Keystone that you get now is pasteurized.
>
NOT SO, Coors is not pasteurized. Very filtered, but not pasteurized.
Bill Baldwin
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> When I'm slummin', I pick up a six-pack of Samuel Adams, either
>the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
Where do you live that Sam Adams is cheap? Alternatively, what do you
consider cheap? Around here (Southern Cal.) Sam Adams goes for $5.99 a six
pack, I think.
The cheapest I'll go is Henry Weinhard's. Good beer at $6.49 a 12 pack.
Marie Martinek
>Steve Smith wrote:
>> A few years later, I moved to the East Coast, and the ultra- cool,
>> obtainable only at astronomical prices, beer was Coors.
>
>Just to point out the generality of "coveted brews," Rolling Rock was
>not readily available out here in Californee until a few years ago. It
>was served up as a premium offering by a few bar'n'grills until then.
This may have been fueled by the Spenser fans (who read the books, of course,
not the not-insipid-but-not-as-good TV show). Rolling Rock Pale Ale, with a
nice sea bass cooked in spinach...
Marie Martinek
P. O. Box 172
Northbrook, IL 60065
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Joel_Plutchak
>Joel_Plutchak wrote:
>> When I'm slummin', I pick up a six-pack of Samuel Adams, either
>>the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
>
>Where do you live that Sam Adams is cheap? Alternatively, what do you
>consider cheap? Around here (Southern Cal.) Sam Adams goes for $5.99 a six
>pack, I think.
I think BBC beers normally go for about $5.50/6-pack around here.
I'm not sure I can think of a cheaper beer I'd drink more than one
of.
Brian Sefton
A worthless dirtbag troll in the form of anon...@replay.com cross
posted the message that started this thread to many groups in order to
irritate newsgroup regulars.
In your responses, please respond only to the group you read the message
on.
p.s.
Coors sucks.
Brian Sefton
why would we want to hear about this crossposted off topic thread on
alt.folklore.urban?
I suggest you do some post graduate study in the same field that you 'learned' in
Rochester and with perserverence and dedication, you may be able to make a career
out of it.
Twiddle wrote:
snip
>
> In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
> hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
> were a local...
>
snip
> Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
>
> Twiddle
Brian Sefton
I grew up in NJ and my favorites were:
Ballantine Ale, (featuring the little puzzles in the cap which let you
know you were drunk when you couldnt figure them out)
Shmitz
Rolling Rock 7 ouncers
the worst were:
Piels real draft
Pabst Blue Ribbon
Carling Black Label
Schaeffer
Mickeys Big Mouth (aka Green Death)
jw steve
wrote:
>No, it doesnt beg any question except:
>
>why would we want to hear about this crossposted off topic thread on
>alt.folklore.urban?
>
>I suggest you do some post graduate study in the same field that you 'learned' in
>Rochester and with perserverence and dedication, you may be able to make a career
>out of it.
>
Yeah, and I really want to hear you people from alt.folklore whine
about people crossposting. If your intention was to actually get
people to stop crossposting, I've got news for you, Einstein. Your
methodology sucks.
I got some folklore for you. It goes like this;
There once were two really annoying people from alt.urban.folklore who
didn't like crossposts, but felt that it was appropriate to flame
people who probably responded to a cross-post unintentionally ..
jw steve
Dr. Hardcrab
Don't send them groups that you don't want reading it!
P.S. "F" YOU
Steven Scheer
feel that I need to say the following:
All of you who have been writing in to dis Coors as crap need to keep in
mind that the vast majority of beer drinkers willingly order some sort of
Lite beer, or, when they are feeling really adventurous, ask for a Bud.
(None of these is any better than the basic Coors Banquet Beer you have been
ragging on.) You want to solve a mystery? Solve that one!
-SSS
Robert William Vesterman <buo...@webspan.net> wrote in message
news:36cb07a0...@news.webspan.net...
Jonney T. Grunnet
says...
>
>In article <36ca1cbc...@news.webspan.net> buo...@webspan.net (Robert
William Vesterman) writes:
>>>But one still puzzles us. Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
>>>of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or another.
>>>Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
>>>coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
>>
>>You've got to be kidding me. Not about the possible ban, but "Coors"
>>and "prized"? The two words are almost antonyms.
>
> Whatever the reason, the fact that Coors had a newar-mythical
>status during the early seventies is true. My high-school marching
>band went to Cheyenne one summer back then, and the band directors
>and chaperones stocked the cargo holds of the buses with Coors.
>Seems silly, but there it is.
>Joel Plutchak
>
>"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him
>yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Near-mythical is right. My father used to bring it back east by the trunk
loads. My parents even a have a picture of me proudly wearing my Coors t-shirt
at Disneyland. This was circa 1978 or '79 and I was 10 or 11. Of course that
would never be allowed in today's PC world.
Ralph Jones
> [snip]
> This is just so ridiculous. I could see people wanting to try a
> regional rarity like Coors or Rolling Rock once, but come on, the
> stuff is crap. Who's going to try it twice, after expecting something
> mystical the first time?
Sales got a nice hype when Paul Newman called it "the best American beer,
bar none" in a magazine interview and was often photographed with it.
Couple of years later, the political orientation of the Coors folks made
its way into the media and Newman's palate changed.
In the late seventies there was a prolonged strike at Coors and the union
drummed the statement "Coors beer is not pasteurized" in the media as a
strike tactic. It resulted in some of the sales not being there when they
went back to work.
--
*************************************************
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Every dark cloud has a silver lining. Lightning
kills most of those who look for it.
Make the obvious deletion from my address for replies.
ra...@westnet.poe.com
> This is just so ridiculous. I could see people wanting to try a
> regional rarity like Coors or Rolling Rock once, but come on, the
> stuff is crap. Who's going to try it twice, after expecting something
> mystical the first time?
I suppose, after shelling big $$ for a six of rolling rock (or eqivalent
piss beer) one could force onself to belive that you weren't really ripped
off, that the beer really was better... You know, so as to avoid losing
face. Hell, misery loves company, so you might even be moved to extole
the piss^H^H^H^Hbeers virues to others in the hopes that they will be
suckered right along with you.
John
(afu removed from followups, I'm sure they really don't care for this
thread)
--
Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC'd posts will be rudely replied to.
Ask me about joining the NRA.
Kirk Nelson
>
> No, it doesnt beg any question except:
>
> why would we want to hear about this crossposted off topic thread on
> alt.folklore.urban?
>
> I suggest you do some post graduate study in the same field that you 'learned' in
> Rochester and with perserverence and dedication, you may be able to make a career
> out of it.
Boy, them other newsgroups is mean, aren't they!!
It cracks me up when people waste time to tell someone their
post doesn't belong in such-and-such a newsgroup. Relax
and have a homebrew you jack ass!
Kirk Nelson
Tim Robinson
>
>the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
Your idea of slummin' is most people's idea of premium. I just grabbed
some Sam Adams Cream Stout and maybe it's not in the category of their
lighter beers, but it's pretty damn good beer.
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Tim Robinson
>In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
>hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
>were a local...
>
>it isn't such a bad beer for a cheapie...
>
>Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
You clearly missed THAT thread last week.
As for cheap beer, once I started drinking better beer, I can't stomach
the cheap stuff. I turn it down. Sort of the like the joke:
The presidents of Coors, Budweiser, Miller, Guinness and a few others
were at an international beer conference. The first four above all go
to lunch together and the waitress asks what they want to drink. The
Coors guy proudly asks for Coors, the Bud president asks for a Bud, the
Miller president asks for a Miller. The guy from Guinness says, "I'll
have a Coke." The others look at him like he has sprouted a new head.
He just shrugs and says, "If you guys aren't drinking beer, then neither
will I."
JoAnne Schmitz
>What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
Please, please, please, PLEASE omit alt.folklore.urban from the followups to
this question. The alt.folklore.urban newsgroup does not wish to participate in
this type of thread. As was so nicely put by Michele Tepper in the post "How to
understand AFU" which is archived at
http://www.urbanlegends.com/afu/guides/afu_short_intro.html
"There are some types of threads which appear regularly, but which are
definitely outside the scope of AFU. Most regular readers of AFU do not read or
contribute to them. These include lists such as "funniest xxx" or "favourite
xxx". Because they take up bandwidth without being of much interest, regular
readers of AFU would like to see them disappear from the group."
Thanks.
JoAnne "not a beer drinker anyway" Schmitz
----- some favorite web sites -----
general search: http://www.altavista.com (web) or http://www.dejanews.com (newsgroups)
UL search: http://www.urbanlegends.com or http://www.snopes.com
Twiddle
>
> No, it doesnt beg any question except:
>
> why would we want to hear about this crossposted off topic thread on
> alt.folklore.urban?
>
> I suggest you do some post graduate study in the same field that you 'learned' in
> Rochester and with perserverence and dedication, you may be able to make a career
> out of it.
You sound very intelligent. Why is a killfile such a difficult concept
for you?
Twiddle
Twiddle
> with Rolling Rock. I truly believe it stems from the green bottle and
> the "33" on the back. The beer is pretty uninspired to begin with,
> coupled with it's typical skunkiness, I find it undrinkable.
>
> jw steve
The commercials really suck, too...
Twiddle
Dr H
On 17 Feb 1999, it was written:
}
}Why is Coors Light like making love in a canoe? (F**king close to water!)
}
Ha-ha! Gee, I never heard that one before. ;-)
Dr H
Dr H
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Robert William Vesterman wrote:
}On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:24:34 GMT, James Gifford <gif...@ns.net>
}wrote:
}
}>Steve Smith wrote:
}>> A few years later, I moved to the East Coast, and the ultra- cool,
}>> obtainable only at astronomical prices, beer was Coors.
}>
}>Just to point out the generality of "coveted brews," Rolling Rock was
}>not readily available out here in Californee until a few years ago. It
}>was served up as a premium offering by a few bar'n'grills until then.
}
}This is just so ridiculous. I could see people wanting to try a
}regional rarity like Coors or Rolling Rock once, but come on, the
}stuff is crap. Who's going to try it twice, after expecting something
}mystical the first time?
Hey, a lot of us were naive college boys who mostly lived on Knickerbocker
Natural. When we wanted a "premium" beer we bought Bud, and if we could
afford Molsen -- whoo-hoo, import brew!
Coors tasted different, and it was hard to get, and it cost more when
you could get it, so we convinced ourselves that it was *really special
stuff*. YMMV.
}Rolling Rock is, I suppose, not too bad, for a bad beer. But that's
}the best I can bring myself to say about it. Coors, on the other
}hand....
Is a well-crafted American Light Lager, and fine, if that's the kind
of beer you like to drink.
Dr H
Dr H
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, James Gifford wrote:
}Steve Smith wrote:
}> A few years later, I moved to the East Coast, and the ultra- cool,
}> obtainable only at astronomical prices, beer was Coors.
}
}Just to point out the generality of "coveted brews," Rolling Rock was
}not readily available out here in Californee until a few years ago. It
}was served up as a premium offering by a few bar'n'grills until then.
}
Henry Weinhard's (of Oregon) enjoyed a similar vogue in the northeast
for a while. Don't know if it still does, but in some places people
were paying import prices for their Private Reserve.
Been waiting for Oregonians to suddenly start demanding Genese, but
somehow that never seems to happen... :-)
Dr H
Dr H
On 17 Feb 1999 mlo...@pop.slip.net wrote:
}"Dr. Hardcrab" <de...@radix.net> writes:
}
}> Does anyone remember the "push-button" cans?? Didn't have a pull tab. It
}> had 2 "buttons". A small one (about the size of a large pencil eraser) that
}> you pushed first to "vent" it, the a larger one that you drink out of. I
}> never read any stories about it, but I'm sure they switch after people sliced
}> their thumbs open after one-too-many.......
}
}As I recall, there were several attempted solutions to the pull-tab
}problem (people would discard the pull tabs, which would be eaten by
}birds, which would then, err, begin to pine for the fjords), before
}the can industry stabilized on the current captive-lever system. The
}push-button one was tried, but it had a number of drawback (difficult
}to use, sliced-up fingers, &c). For non-carbonated drinks, they tried
}sealing the can with a piece of strong aluminized mylar, roughly the
}shape of a pull tab) glued over the opening.
}
I never had any problems or injuries with the button-type openings,
but I guess some people did. The aluminized mylar had a lot of the
same problems as the original pull-tabs. You wouldn't cut your feet
if you stepped on them, but they were decidedly non-biodegradable, and
birds still ate them.
IMO, the big problem with all the captive openers, button, lever, or
whatever, is that part of the lid -- and whatever crap might be on
it -- ends up -inside- the can, in your beer. Yum.
Dr H
crab rangoon
do...................
Bill Baldwin wrote in message <7af3sc$39a$2...@remarQ.com>...
>Joel_Plutchak wrote:
>> When I'm slummin', I pick up a six-pack of Samuel Adams, either
>>the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
>
>Where do you live that Sam Adams is cheap? Alternatively, what do you
>consider cheap? Around here (Southern Cal.) Sam Adams goes for $5.99 a six
>pack, I think.
>
Dr H
On 17 Feb 1999, John Simutis wrote:
}In alt.folklore.urban Dr. Hardcrab <de...@radix.net> wrote:
}
}: BTW (you would be giving your age away if you can answer this one:)
}
}Regrettably, just because I give it away does not mean anyone has to
}-take- it.
}
}: Does anyone remember the "push-button" cans?? Didn't have a pull tab. It
}: had 2 "buttons". A small one (about the size of a large pencil eraser) that
}: you pushed first to "vent" it, the a larger one that you drink out of. I
}: never read any stories about it, but I'm sure they switch after people
}: sliced their thumbs open after one-too-many.......
}
}Sure. There was even a plastic thingy, a circular cap with 2 protrusions
}aligned with the buttons, to open those cans 'safely'.
}
}I thought full-'strength' Coors at the brewery was actually decent. Of
}course, the only way it's any good these days is with a shot of Lagavulin
}16 poured in it.
Gah! What a waste of Lagavulin!
Dr H
Dr H
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Twiddle wrote:
}>
}> Speaking of mystique.
}
}In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
}hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
}were a local...
}
}Now that I'm in Orlando, Florida and can easily buy Gennie again, I find
}it isn't such a bad beer for a cheapie...
}
}Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
}
Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve.
Dr H
Dr H
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, jw steve wrote:
}On 17 Feb 1999 12:22:10 PST, Brian Sefton <MrB...@ix.netcom.com>
}wrote:
}
}>No, it doesnt beg any question except:
}>
}>why would we want to hear about this crossposted off topic thread on
}>alt.folklore.urban?
}>
}>I suggest you do some post graduate study in the same field that you 'learned' in
}>Rochester and with perserverence and dedication, you may be able to make a career
}>out of it.
}>
}
}Yeah, and I really want to hear you people from alt.folklore whine
}about people crossposting. If your intention was to actually get
}people to stop crossposting, I've got news for you, Einstein. Your
}methodology sucks.
}
}I got some folklore for you. It goes like this;
}
}There once were two really annoying people from alt.urban.folklore who
}didn't like crossposts, but felt that it was appropriate to flame
}people who probably responded to a cross-post unintentionally ..
jw steve, it's a jungle over there in afu... :-)
Dr H
deepstblu
>
> >It's hard to beat the Coors marketing angle. Too bad Yuengling, Hohenadel,
> >and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback) didn't think of the
> >mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
>
> Yuengling is doing quite well, and fighting the good fight I might add. I
> believe
> Schmidt's is still around. Not sure about hohenadel.
Schmidt's is still around, but it's not advertised anymore, and so
probably dying a slow sales death. The label will change hands from
Stroh's to Pabst when Stroh's gets out of the brewing business. Never
heard of Hohenadel. The next-to-last mass-market Philly beer was
Ortlieb's; they sold out to Schmidt's, whose corporate acquirers seem to
have discontinued it.
JEFFREY M STANLEY
Coors was not available in St. Louis in the 70's either. My understanding
at the time (it may have been incorrect) was that Coors and Anheuser-Busch
had a non-compete agreement for various areas. So Coors didn't sell in
AB's backyard, and Bud wasn't available in Colorado
MY GOD!!! Is this a contest to see how much bad info we can post on the
net in one day.
Tower Leasing & Financial Services, Inc.
Dr H wrote in message ...
>Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve.
Don't know why I'm contributing to this thread (unless it has something to
do with the three imperial pint lunch I just returned from), but I'd
actually choose their surprisingly respectable amber over the regular P.R.
Pretty full tasting for a Hank's, and up there with the elusive Olympia Dark
for my favorite cheapo beer. Of course driving seven hours round-trip to
the brewery (the only place they're sold bottled or canned) to buy cans of
Oly Dark negates the cheap factor, but when I'm in Olympia for an extended
length of time (fairly often) and am able to sober up enough after leaving
the Fish brewery to drive to the Olympia brewery, I always pick up a case.
Great beer, cheap or not.
Ryan Stotz
fastrada
>
> Joel_Plutchak wrote:
> > When I'm slummin', I pick up a six-pack of Samuel Adams, either
> >the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
>
> Where do you live that Sam Adams is cheap? Alternatively, what do you
> consider cheap? Around here (Southern Cal.) Sam Adams goes for $5.99 a six
> pack, I think.
>
> The cheapest I'll go is Henry Weinhard's. Good beer at $6.49 a 12 pack.
A decent cheap beer out her in Chicagoland is Huber Bock from, ya hey,
up 'dere in Wisconsin. It goes for $7.99 for a 24-bottle case.
Probably cheaper because they re-use bottles (they still have the glue
from the old labels on them. Pretty decent beer.
Of course, the best beer is Guiness, but that's way too expensive to
drink regularly.
Regards,
Joe
--
"i don't have to put up with this shabby crap--i'm a
journalist!" --transmetropolitan
Doofus
They've got enough people in AFU to belittle without you getting in the way!
I'm with you on the beer thing. Sam Adams Lager is the stuff. Who cares what
it costs.
Doofus
jw steve <jw_s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Steve Smith
> In the late seventies there was a prolonged strike at Coors and the union
> drummed the statement "Coors beer is not pasteurized" in the media as a
> strike tactic. It resulted in some of the sales not being there when they
> went back to work.
Nope. The problem is that Coors wasn't unionized, and Joe Coors was
foaming- at- the- mouth anti- union. The unions managed to get laws
passed in a number of states (Oregon was one) banning non- pasteurized
beer.
Turned attention away from the fact that the Coors workers had better
benefits than the Union workers. Coors also had the highest percentage
of women and minorities in management of any major brewery. Being a
right- wing loon is not incompatible with wanting a good deal for one's
workers.
--
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Agincourt Computing +1 (301) 681 7395
"If I can't dance, I'm not joining your revolution."
Andy Chase
When I lived in Rochester, Jim Dundee Honey Brown (Gennessee brewing co.
masquerading as a microbrewery) was usually available at Tops or Wegmans for
$3.99/six pack. Haven't had any in a few years, but at the time I thought it was
worlds better than a sixer of any macrobrew I can think of. The stuff is like $6-7
a six pack out here.
-Andy
--------------------------------------------------
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The relationship between truth and a newspaper is like the relationship between the
color green and the number seven. Occasionally you will see the number seven
written in green, but you learn not to expect this. - Garrison Keillor
crab rangoon
aluminum tops.........anybody remember those?
Dr H wrote in message ...
>
Mitchell Emanuel Lopez
allthe like suck! Lets end this thread here and now! Why not talk about
something more worth while. How about discussing what the Hand Crafted
Beer segment might do to combat AB's and Miller's monopoly tactics?
Or how about the benefits of a Craft brewers alliance against the
megabreweries? Another good topic would be to discuss the plans of Miller
and AB once all the other Megas had been vanquished. Especially since this
just may happen in the next 20 years if things keep going on like they
have. For the love of G*d ,people lets be a little creative and
discuss someting else!
Mitch Lopez
"Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there
shall be no more cakes and ale?"
-Shakespeare
Bruce Birbeck
East Point/Atlanta, Georgia
> --
> Panther piss? Try some Black Cat or 33 Beer from Vietnam. *Now* we're talking
> panther piss...
'Panther Piss' was also Jaguar Malt Liquor, if I recall correctly. Found
a dusty rack of the stuff in 1981 and it had sediment in the bottom of
the bottles. Kick-ass stuff, I hazily remember at this time...
--
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WARDOG
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Andy Chase <"andychase"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
<7afrnk$1...@enews2.newsguy.com>...
>Here in Southern California, Henry Weinhard Blue Boar Pale Ale, I guess.
>
>
Michael STEWART
jo...@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Joel_Plutchak) writes:
> In article <7af3sc$39a$2...@remarQ.com> "Bill Baldwin" <BillB...@micronet.net> writes:
> >Joel_Plutchak wrote:
> >> When I'm slummin', I pick up a six-pack of Samuel Adams, either
> >>the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
> >
> >Where do you live that Sam Adams is cheap? Alternatively, what do you
> >consider cheap? Around here (Southern Cal.) Sam Adams goes for $5.99 a six
> >pack, I think.
>
> I think BBC beers normally go for about $5.50/6-pack around here.
> I'm not sure I can think of a cheaper beer I'd drink more than one
> of.
I guess this isn't an invitation to brag about how cheap all grain
homebrewing can be? I drank a fair bit of Berghoff Dark/Bock when I
was a poor student in Illinois before I started homebrewing. At the
time (Late 80's) this was about as cheap as your average megalager.
Of course when they became trendy and yuppified and expanded the
Berghoff line they became almost as expensive as Sam Adams. At those
prices I prefer the SA.
--
Michael Stewart http://discus.anu.edu.au/~stewart
ste...@discus.anu.edu.au
"The day before election day they were still bowing their necks to the
Anti-Saloon League, but two days later they were howling for beer and by
the end of the year they were also howling for whisky, gin and rum."
---H. L. Mencken on the U.S. congress and the election of 1932.
jw steve
>Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve.
>
>Dr H
>
I guess up here in AK I'd say it's Alaskan Frontier Ale. Although
it's not cheap by lower 48 standards (~$6.00 a sixer). What is pretty
humorous is that a six pack of AKBC beer is often less than half the
cost of a twelve pack (usually around $14). Not sure who buys the 12
packs.
Back East, the prize definitely goes to Yuengling. The premium is
dirt cheap and a much better ALL than Rolling Rock. The B&T and
Porter are priced around $15 a case (more now?). But the real deal is
getting it on tap. Also, Neuweiler in Allentown, PA was a pretty
tasty beer and nicely priced.
If you want really cheap and I was forced to go back to college and
play drinking games, I would go with Old Milwaukee Light. Of all the
swill I drank in school, that was the most tolerable.
That having been said, I long ago realized that I should strive to
drink less cheap beer and more quality beer.
jw steve
Twiddle
>
> Here in Southern California, Henry Weinhard Blue Boar Pale Ale, I guess.
>
> masquerading as a microbrewery) was usually available at Tops or Wegmans for
> $3.99/six pack.
Woah... Wegman's is still there??
Twiddle
Gary S. Callison
: A decent cheap beer out her in Chicagoland is Huber Bock from, ya hey,
: up 'dere in Wisconsin.
You drink Root Beer Bark? Man, that stuff is like "Vomit Lite"! If I'm
going to suffer with cheap beer, it's going to at least be something
drinkable, like Busch or Old Style. Anything cheaper than ten bucks a case
off-sale (your Huber, Red White & Blue, Wedemans, etc) is better used to
fertilize frat boys. I'll sink as low as Meister Brau or Milwaukee's Beast
if'n I've already got twenty or thirty in me anyways, but drinking
anything from scenic Monroe Wisconsin is asking for socks on your teeth
the next morning.
: Of course, the best beer is Guiness, but that's way too expensive to
: drink regularly.
The best beer (as any homebrewer can tell you) is "That beer we had that
one time at that guy's place" or "that one batch we made last
argletember".
Best beer I've had recently was at Mike's cousin Chris Ivanovich's house.
I think he had the recipie for an IPA about pat. ...course, I had to drink
a few pitchers just to make up my mind, but not so much that I couldn't
remember that the *first* one tasted really good too.
--
Huey
Andrew D Thibault
Twiddle wrote in message <36CB84...@bellsouth.net>...
And bigger than ever. But the beer selection still sucks..........
Twiddle
>
> And bigger than ever. But the beer selection still sucks..........
Damn. NOTHING ever changes...
Twiddle
Twiddle
>
> This beer sucks! Bud and all of the other AB beers, Miller's beers and
> allthe like suck! Lets end this thread here and now! Why not talk about
> something more worth while. How about discussing what the Hand Crafted
> Beer segment might do to combat AB's and Miller's monopoly tactics?
> Or how about the benefits of a Craft brewers alliance against the
> megabreweries? Another good topic would be to discuss the plans of Miller
> and AB once all the other Megas had been vanquished. Especially since this
> just may happen in the next 20 years if things keep going on like they
> have. For the love of G*d ,people lets be a little creative and
> discuss someting else!
Do you prefer Coors or Coors Lite?
Lew Bryson
>Latrobe American Pale Ale
Not anymore: they stopped brewing it. Sorry to bear the bad news.
--
Lew Bryson
Freelance writer and fulltime father.
My opinions are my own: the good ones I sell.
Author of Pennsylvania Breweries, now available at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/081172879X/002-1904346-8002803
Greg Goss
>Black Label beer from Canada (Carling brewery). Affectionatly refered
>to as "Black Labs". (the cooler they were kept in was refered to as the
>"kennel". Hence, going to the 7-11 and getting a six pack was "Get some
>black labs from the kennel")
I knew them as "Mabels" (UBC usage 1977).
Anyhow, I hated it when they delisted "Columbia Extra" to make room
for Ice Beers a couple of years back. I'm back into Mabels and
High-test.
Greg Goss
in Halifax. As a bunch of drunken sailors on leave, they would refuse
to drink at any bar that had Moosehead as their draft.
He was astonished when it became a yuppie brew that everyone wanted in
the eighties.
ra...@westnet.poe.com
> This is really not a appropriate thread for AFC-A or AFU anyway, but I do
> feel that I need to say the following:
Well, not for AFU, as the possible urban legend has been dealt with, but
nothing is reall off-topic for AFCA.
> All of you who have been writing in to dis Coors as crap need to keep in
> mind that the vast majority of beer drinkers willingly order some sort of
> Lite beer, or, when they are feeling really adventurous, ask for a Bud.
> (None of these is any better than the basic Coors Banquet Beer you have been
> ragging on.) You want to solve a mystery? Solve that one!
Well, that's easy: The majority of Americans are fools with bad taste.
One need only look to the news from Washington to confirm this.
Next question?
John
--
Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC'd posts will be rudely replied to.
Ask me about joining the NRA.
Joel_Plutchak
>Turned attention away from the fact that the Coors workers had better
>benefits than the Union workers. Coors also had the highest percentage
>of women and minorities in management of any major brewery. Being a
>right- wing loon is not incompatible with wanting a good deal for one's
>workers.
Yeah, one of the few reasons I have to respect Coors as a company
is that the workers were intelligent enough to boot the unions out
and keep 'em where they belong-- out of the workplace.
--
Joel Plutchak
"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him
yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Brian B. Rodenborn
JEFFREY M STANLEY <JEFFST...@prodigy.net> wrote:
[snipped my fascinating blurblet of dubious info I dimly recall from 20 yrs]
>
>MY GOD!!! Is this a contest to see how much bad info we can post on the
>net in one day.
Did I win? Gee I hope so.
Custard head.
Crash Johnson
Have fun, but, please alt.folklore.urban DOES NOT CARE.
Please eliminate this froup from the crossposts and followups, okay?
nob...@replay.com is responsible for this. s/he is a well know troublemaker.
Cut it out.
Crash 'been know to have a beer or twenty' Johnson
Larry Palletti wrote in message <36CA76A7...@switchboardmail.com>...
>Don Scheidt wrote:
>
>> buo...@webspan.net (Robert William Vesterman) wrote:
>>
>> >On 17 Feb 1999 01:34:47 +0100, Anonymous <nob...@replay.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>[...]
>> >>
>> >>[...] Apparently Coors beer was prohibited east
>> >>of the Mississippi during the early seventies for one reason or
another.
>> >>Because of this, a case of Coors was especially prized on the east
>> >>coast. Was there ever such a prohibition and, if so, why?
>> >
>> >You've got to be kidding me. Not about the possible ban, but "Coors"
>> >and "prized"? The two words are almost antonyms.
>>
>> Maybe so, but before Coors brewed and sold east of the Mississippi
>> (and became the third largest brewing company in the USA, too), it
>> was just plain not available in a lot of places, and as such, it
>> developed a mystique due to its scarcity. The mystique was easily
>> enough dispelled upon tasting a can or bottle of the stuff, when
>> it was revealed to be just another blandish megalager [...]
>
>And a fine mystique it was. Don't know if Coors planned it that way, but
it
>sure worked. Bunches of US East Coast beer swillers could speak of nothing
>else -- and at least some of the time, I'd guess, it was a matter of
letting
>us swine know how well-traveled they were.
>
>In the Seventies, before Coors went national: at western US airports
(Tucson
>comes to mind; Phoenix; and certainly Denver), there were stacks of cases
of
>(quite unrefrigerated) Coors for sale at the lobby shops. Unstated but
>implied: "Now you poor deprived Easterners can bring some Good Stuff home
>with you."
>
>Not sure how they justified airport sales with the claim that Coors had to
be
>kept refrigerated.
>
>Later I found myself living in the West. Drank a bunch of Coors because I
>thought I was supposed to. Even convinced myself that it was damned good
>stuff -- again, because I was supposed to.
>
>But then I discovered Olympia. Bye-bye Coors.
>
>It's hard to beat the Coors marketing angle. Too bad Yuengling, Hohenadel,
>and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback) didn't think of the
>mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
>
>Larry Palletti
>Opinionated, but lovable
>East Point/Atlanta, Georgia
>--
>Who would kill right now for a bottle of Rolling Rock
>
Crash Johnson
Twiddle wrote in message <36CABA...@bellsouth.net>...
>jw_steve wrote:
>>
>> >It's hard to beat the Coors marketing angle. Too bad Yuengling,
Hohenadel,
>> >and Schmidt's (Philly-area beers from the 'wayback) didn't think of the
>> >mystique thing. Are any of them still around today?
>>
I
>> believe
>> Schmidt's is still around. Not sure about hohenadel.
>>
>> jw steve
>>
>> >Who would kill right now for a bottle of Rolling Rock
>>
>
>In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
>hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
>were a local...
>
>Now that I'm in Orlando, Florida and can easily buy Gennie again, I find
>it isn't such a bad beer for a cheapie...
>
>Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
>
Crash Johnson
Bob Roland wrote in message <36CAC7DA...@tci.com>...
>Twiddle wrote:
>
>>
>> In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
>> hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
>> were a local...
>
>in the world. Sadly, as a teenager the only beer you could ever get
>reliably was beer stolen from inside someones garage. For some reason,
>genny drinkers allways kept their green cans out there.
>
>
>> Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
>
>to as "Black Labs". (the cooler they were kept in was refered to as the
>"kennel". Hence, going to the 7-11 and getting a six pack was "Get some
>black labs from the kennel")
>
>
>>
>> Twiddle
Crash Johnson
Joel_Plutchak wrote in message <7aeooa$mu3$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>...
>In article <36CABA...@bellsouth.net> Twiddle <twi...@bellsouth.net>
writes:
>>Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
>
>the Boston Lager or the "Stock" ale. Has some flavor, is cheap.
Crash Johnson
fastrada (fas...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: > "There are some types of threads which appear regularly, but which are
: > definitely outside the scope of AFU. Most regular readers of AFU
: >do not read or
: > contribute to them. These include lists such as "funniest xxx" or
"favourite
: > xxx". Because they take up bandwidth without being of much interest,
regular
: > readers of AFU would like to see them disappear from the group."
: Hi. How 'ya doing? Let me introduce a concept to you. It's called
: "skimming the subject lines to see what you want to read." End of
: lesson. Skip it if you don't want to read it.
Hi. How 'ya doing? Let me introduce a concept to you. It's called
"skimming the newsgroup names to see what might be relevant to what
you're talking about, because after all there are thousands of
*different* newsgroups with *different* topics for a reason."
Otherwise known as the notion of "on-topic". End of lesson.
From: Woody Brison <william....@lmco.com>
Subject: Re: [Q] Building a tank, 1/4" strong enough??
Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 6:28 PM
Make ye a quick box of Plywood, be it the same size as thy bottom
Plate but only needin' to be about 2 inches deep. Use ye olde Duct
Tape to put ye bottom plate on, then turnin it over so the Glasse she
be the bottom. As far at That goes ye could mayhap put the whole Box
together with that same Duct Tape, it be good for every Thing else. Ye
should support the bottom glass just like it's going to be supported
in the Finished Model, since a lot of its Strengthe depends on it bein
supported Flat and Nice. In the wooden Bottom (now the top), have
yerself a Hole with a length of Hose stuck in it and taped up nice and
tight withall. Now thou canst fill the thing with water and raise the
hose until the glass braeke, then measure how much head of water she
held before givin up ye ghost. It dinnae matter at all how wide the
column of water be, ye olde Pressure be dependent strictly upon the
Height of it.
Ye should have a safety factor of about 3x, in other words iffen the
tank be contemplated to be 1 foot Deep, then the bottom plate ought
to be strong enough to hold 3 foot head of water and then ye olde
glasse will nae gebrake in the middle of ye night and waken ye and
thy missus up to ye sound of the water rushin out all over thine olde
Book collection and leake down thru the Floorboards onto thy
Landlord's head which could be detrimental.
And just to be consistent, the side walls ought to be the same
Thicknesse as the bottom, since the same Pressure will be exertin'
at the very bottom of 'em. This I think is the reason why no one
in their right mind makes the bottom plate of anything but glass,
steel would be stronger, but you're buyin' plate for the sides and
Steel would nae be so transparent, so ye might's as well buy One
more plate while ye're at it.
Note that rock be somewhat heavier'n water so you might want to take
that into account.
When I was lookin' into doin' the same thing you're thinkin of doin,
I found that gettin' heavy plate Glasse was like buying a chunk of
time at the Lawyer's.
And lastly of all, while the duct Tape works so good, it will nae
set so good with the bonnie Missus, so dinnae use it to hold your
good Aquarium together for to be puttin it in your front room.
Wood
quoth Quoter:
>
> I'm taking a stab at building an aquarium and was wondering if anybody
> had any thoughts relative to the size of the tank vs. the glass size
> used to build it. Overall the tank will hold just over 35 gal. It
> measures 35.25 x 18 x 14 (L x W front to back x H). I've read that up
> to 40 gal. is acceptable when using 1/4" glass (not tempered) but I'm
> concerned about the size of the base (32.25 x 18). Will it hold the
> weight ok? (350 lbs water, gravel, rocks, etc..) How much weight could
> it hold?
Tim Robinson wrote in message <7aer4q$4o_...@camelot.ionet.net>...
>Having grown weary of my old caption, I merely quote the expurgated
ramblings of Twiddle <twi...@bellsouth.net> as follows:
>>In Rochester, New York when I was growing up, you learned to get
>>hammered with a six-pack of Genessee Cream Ale... "greenies," if you
>>were a local...
>>
>>Now that I'm in Orlando, Florida and can easily buy Gennie again, I find
>>it isn't such a bad beer for a cheapie...
>>
>>Which begs a question. What is everyones favorite cheap beer?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>You clearly missed THAT thread last week.
>
>As for cheap beer, once I started drinking better beer, I can't stomach
>the cheap stuff. I turn it down. Sort of the like the joke:
>
>The presidents of Coors, Budweiser, Miller, Guinness and a few others
>were at an international beer conference. The first four above all go
>to lunch together and the waitress asks what they want to drink. The
>Coors guy proudly asks for Coors, the Bud president asks for a Bud, the
>Miller president asks for a Miller. The guy from Guinness says, "I'll
>have a Coke." The others look at him like he has sprouted a new head.
>He just shrugs and says, "If you guys aren't drinking beer, then neither
>will I."
>
>
>| Tim Robinson | Lonely Web page. Please visit. |
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>| broadcast, and cable media." Justice Clarence Thomas' dissent. |
Crash Johnson
JEFFREY M STANLEY wrote in message
<7af2ub$9uja$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>but when they went national, they brought
>>out a pasturized version (one is "banquent beer" the other is plain
>>"premium", but I forget which is which) ... you can be assured that Coors,
>>Coors Light, and Keystone that you get now is pasteurized.
>>
>
>NOT SO, Coors is not pasteurized. Very filtered, but not pasteurized.
>
>
Crash Johnson
And if you do not recognize the name, look it up
As posted in rsa, 01/1999
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Dr H wrote in message ...
>
>On 17 Feb 1999 mlo...@pop.slip.net wrote:
>
>}"Dr. Hardcrab" <de...@radix.net> writes:
>}
>}> Does anyone remember the "push-button" cans?? Didn't have a pull tab. It
>}> had 2 "buttons". A small one (about the size of a large pencil eraser)
that
>}> you pushed first to "vent" it, the a larger one that you drink out of. I
>}> never read any stories about it, but I'm sure they switch after people
sliced
>}> their thumbs open after one-too-many.......
>}
>}As I recall, there were several attempted solutions to the pull-tab
>}problem (people would discard the pull tabs, which would be eaten by
>}birds, which would then, err, begin to pine for the fjords), before
>}the can industry stabilized on the current captive-lever system. The
>}push-button one was tried, but it had a number of drawback (difficult
>}to use, sliced-up fingers, &c). For non-carbonated drinks, they tried
>}sealing the can with a piece of strong aluminized mylar, roughly the
>}shape of a pull tab) glued over the opening.
>}
>
>I never had any problems or injuries with the button-type openings,
>but I guess some people did. The aluminized mylar had a lot of the
>same problems as the original pull-tabs. You wouldn't cut your feet
>if you stepped on them, but they were decidedly non-biodegradable, and
>birds still ate them.
>
>IMO, the big problem with all the captive openers, button, lever, or
>whatever, is that part of the lid -- and whatever crap might be on
>it -- ends up -inside- the can, in your beer. Yum.
>
>Dr H
>
>
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crab rangoon wrote in message <7ag213$2cg$1...@camel0.mindspring.com>...
>what about the Carling Black Label "cans" that were plastic bottoms with
>aluminum tops.........anybody remember those?
>
>
>Dr H wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 17 Feb 1999, John Simutis wrote:
>>
>>}In alt.folklore.urban Dr. Hardcrab <de...@radix.net> wrote:
>>}
>>}: BTW (you would be giving your age away if you can answer this one:)
>>}
>>}Regrettably, just because I give it away does not mean anyone has to
>>}-take- it.
>>}
>>}: Does anyone remember the "push-button" cans?? Didn't have a pull tab.
It
>>}: had 2 "buttons". A small one (about the size of a large pencil eraser)
>that
>>}: you pushed first to "vent" it, the a larger one that you drink out of.
I
>>}: never read any stories about it, but I'm sure they switch after people
>>}: sliced their thumbs open after one-too-many.......
>>}
Dr. Hardcrab
Crash Johnson wrote:
Ain't THAT the truth! (Drives me CRAZY sometimes).
;-]
Dr H
}In article <36CB7803...@acm.org> Steve Smith <sgs...@acm.org> writes:
}>Turned attention away from the fact that the Coors workers had better
}>benefits than the Union workers. Coors also had the highest percentage
}>of women and minorities in management of any major brewery. Being a
}>right- wing loon is not incompatible with wanting a good deal for one's
}>workers.
}
} Yeah, one of the few reasons I have to respect Coors as a company
}is that the workers were intelligent enough to boot the unions out
}and keep 'em where they belong-- out of the workplace.
}--
}Joel Plutchak
Thank you, Joel. Things have been entirely too quite lately.
Dr H
Dr H
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, JEFFREY M STANLEY wrote:
}Rodenborn wrote:
}Coors was not available in St. Louis in the 70's either. My understanding
}at the time (it may have been incorrect) was that Coors and Anheuser-Busch
}had a non-compete agreement for various areas. So Coors didn't sell in
}AB's backyard, and Bud wasn't available in Colorado
}
}MY GOD!!! Is this a contest to see how much bad info we can post on the
}net in one day.
What's "bad" about this information? Do you have definitive information
to the effect that Coors and AB did NOT have such an agreement in the
1970s?
Dr H
JOHN J STARADUMSKY
>Well, that's easy: The majority of Americans are fools with bad taste.
>One need only look to the news from Washington to confirm this.
Pretty funny from a conservative, seeing as how they're always accusing
liberals of having the above attitude.
Anyway, who set you up as Beer God? What is it that makes most Americans
"fools with bad taste"? Because they don't like the same beer that you do? I
once had a very knowledgeable wine friend say that comparing craft beer to
wine was like comparing "hamburger to filet mignon". Are we therefore fools
for drinking beer instead of wine?
--
John Staradumsky
http://members.aol.com/bruguru2/cybeer.html
************************************************
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beer...certainly Boston, Austin, Denver, Portland, both Portlands actually,
Seattle, and perhaps Baltimore and Philadelphia."
---Michael Jackson, in an interview appearing in the Yankee Brew News.
JOHN J STARADUMSKY
>Schmidts brewery is still here, operating down on 3rd (?) and Girard. I
>forget who owns the company though. Seems to me it just sold to someone
>like Labatts or something.
I was under the impression the brewery was closed. The brands had been sold
to Heileman, which was in turn acquired by Stroh, and now Pabst.
Unfortunately, the beer went downhill when Heileman took over. Schmidt Bock
was my favorite, and I used to enjoy the Classic too. I don't think those
beers were ever brewed by Heileman (and perhaps not by Schmidt's for a while
before the takeover).
I hated to see this happen. If Hostess buys Tastycake next, I'll shoot
myself. Say, does Portland, Oregon (Let Us Pray) have Tastycakes? :->