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John Shocked

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Aug 28, 2005, 5:07:19 AM8/28/05
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Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
has been destroyed.
Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.

In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.

Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by
a process of elimination to win Zerak's devotion. However, the Cylons believe strongly in procreation,
even in this case bestial procreation,
and thus it was hardly a difficult choice for her to choose to kill Meier instead.
Thus, the way is now clear for a monogamous Sodomy relationship between Apollo and Zerak.

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FDR

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Aug 28, 2005, 9:32:06 AM8/28/05
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> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo,
> Zerak and Meier
> has been destroyed.

How will you be able to masturbate now?

Jim Phillips

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Aug 28, 2005, 10:43:15 AM8/28/05
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:

> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
> has been destroyed.

Disappointed?

> Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
> monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.

I never saw any of that, but I'm not obsessed with sodomy like you
are, John. It's amazing what a difference an obsession with sodomy makes
when watching a television show.

> In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
> still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
> Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.

What an imagination you have, John! I didn't see any male nudity
in that scene, but then again I don't have your "Sodomysight". Have you
ever watched "Gilligan's Island"? If so, what are your thoughts on the
Gilligan/Skipper relationship?

> Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by
> a process of elimination to win Zerak's devotion. However, the Cylons believe strongly in procreation,
> even in this case bestial procreation,
> and thus it was hardly a difficult choice for her to choose to kill Meier instead.
> Thus, the way is now clear for a monogamous Sodomy relationship between Apollo and Zerak.

Is it that you're being spurned by a homosexual lover, so you
project your own problems onto BSG?

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John Shocked

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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
> How will you be able to masturbate now?

Heck, I thought this was a science fiction series.
Also, I have yet to understand the true meaning of this strange morph of the well known phrase
which Zerak utters to Meier when Meier continues to court him earlier:
"Getting blood on your hands is a lot harder than washing it off."

As has been discussed here, Sodomy is a major source of disease because it is unnatural
activity of a hard object in the anal tract which causes cuts and blood to flow and
exchange bacteria and viruses with the semen deposited.
And while the blood and faecal excrement can be washed away, the bacteria and virus
borne diseases remain, often permanently, often fatally.

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John Shocked

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Aug 28, 2005, 12:13:46 PM8/28/05
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"Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050828103742.9794N-100000@mail...

> On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:
>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
>> has been destroyed.
> Disappointed?

I am absolutely disappointed that I do not have a legit science fiction TV series to watch and that
this Hollywood Homosexual agenda Gays In Space muck is being presented as Sodomy
indoctrination for you and your kids.

>> Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
>> monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.
> I never saw any of that, but I'm not obsessed with sodomy like you are, John. It's amazing what
> a difference an obsession with sodomy makes when watching a television show.

It is he BSG Hollywood Homosexuals who are obsessed with spreading the word that 'Sodomy's ok'
to you and your kids. It will not work on me, because I recognize it; it will work on those whose minds
are too weak to recognize what is being done to them covertly and illegally.

>> In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
>> still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
>> Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.
> What an imagination you have, John! I didn't see any male nudity in that scene, but then again I don't have
> your "Sodomysight". Have you ever watched "Gilligan's Island"? If so, what are your thoughts on the
> Gilligan/Skipper relationship?

There was nudity of both male procreative organs in that final meeting between Zerak and Meier, although
the 'money shot' as they call it was not visible but was only inches below the visible area on the TV screen.

>> Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by
>> a process of elimination to win Zerak's devotion. However, the Cylons believe strongly in procreation,
>> even in this case bestial procreation,
>> and thus it was hardly a difficult choice for her to choose to kill Meier instead.
>> Thus, the way is now clear for a monogamous Sodomy relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
> Is it that you're being spurned by a homosexual lover, so you project your own problems onto BSG?

I doubt there is anyone watching BSG who is being spurned by a homosexual partner, mainly because
there are so few homosexuals and saying "no" to homosex is not their habitual modus operandi.

Here is the truth about this (eight partners a year outside their main partnership) :

==========================================================
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2003/jul/03071405.html

Monday July 14, 2003
Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study AMSTERDAM, July 14, 2003
(LifeSiteNews.com) - As Canada and several U.S. states move toward the legalization of so-
called homosexual "marriage," a new study has found that homosexual partnerships last, on
average, only one-and-a-half years.

The study is based on the health records of young Dutch homosexuals by Dr. Maria Xiridou of
the Amsterdam Municipal Health Service and published in the May issue of the journal AIDS.
It also found that men in homosexual relationships have an average of eight partners a year
outside their main partnership, adding more evidence to the "stereotype" that homosexuals
tend to be promiscuous.

The findings are "proof positive that these relationships ... will never be as stable as a
normal heterosexual relationship regardless of what institutions or laws are changed," said
Pete LaBarbara, senior policy analyst at Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family
Institute, who predicts that homosexual promiscuity will remain "rampant."
==========================================================

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FDR

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We're you wet with anticipation?

Richard Hatch

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>was only inches


Why are you slandering my penis?
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I Am APOLLO!


Ubiquitous

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In article <e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01>, jsho...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo,
>Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was
>determined to engage in a
>monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to
>Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.

Wow, you and "trotsky" sure are obsessed with homosexuality!

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the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.

John Shocked

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We need to Ban Sodomy content in TV shows and then let Hollywood be Hollywood again.

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John Shocked

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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0plQe.132961$E95.61669@fed1read01...
>>was only inches
> Why are you slandering my penis?
> I Am APOLLO!

I would still be amazed if Richard Hatch from Survivor does not at some point make an appearance on this series.
He is the true homosexual with the original Apollo's real name which confused Hollywood Homosexuals into
creating this Battlestar Galactica series in the first place. They thought Richard Hatch from the Original Series
was the recent Survivor homosexual and were determines to build a TV series around him.
Richard Hatch, the original reality TV winning and flaming on screen homosexual should catch a plane
to Hollywood and demand his piece of the BSG action before the series is canceled.

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John Shocked

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"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message news:yOOdnVvPWOi...@comcast.com...

> In article <e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01>, jsho...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo,
>>Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was
>>determined to engage in a
>>monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to
>>Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.
> Wow, you and "trotsky" sure are obsessed with homosexuality!

Conflation. Excellent debating skill.

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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:Rgcoe.256$7s.52@fed1read01...
> > Interesting take on it. At least that was not as blasphemous as
> Oh ya? Ok, then how did it REALLY happen?

This was the Scifi Channel take on Sodom and Gomorrah in their specially made movie The Fallen Ones (2005).
For anyone who is religious, this had to be extremely blasphemous in its determination to rewrite the
Sodom and Gomorrah story in the first book of the Bible Genesis which portrays the destruction of the
people of a whole city because of their proclivity toward Sodomy.
This script portrays the Angels who carried out the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah
as the bad guys, conflates Catholic nuns with prostitutes, and in the same dialogue
supports Israel's mass murder of their Arab/Moslem neighbors.

The monster in this movie is a one of the Angels who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah
and he is given the name Ammon, which is the biblical name given to Arab/Moslem people
who live directly to the east of Israel, in Jordan, whose capital city is Amman.
This just shows how determined Hollywood Homosexuals are to sell their Love Sodomy,
Hate Arabs/Moslems, agenda to the public and to abuse the Science Fiction TV and
Magic/Fantasy TV idioms do it.


=============excerpt from========================
===Exit of Keith Hamilton Cobb from Andromeda -- Reason ?===
topic on alt.battlestar-galactica and alt.tv.andromeda
==============================================

=======Transcript excerpt from Scifi Channel movie Fallen Ones==================
=======Exchange between Ammon (the Angel monster played by an apparent Arab)=====
=======and the Rabbi (played by Tom Bosley, likeable US comedian)===============
You won't feel a thing.
You're going to kill me then?
Yes.
Would you grant me one request?
Rabbi, if you're going to ask me not to kill you...
oh, no, no, it's not... I-I thought of that, but no.
Tell me how you fell from grace.
You're serious. Because god chose you over us.
I was prideful. He forbade our mating with the daughters of man.
Once, I loved a woman. God destroyed the world by flood, killing my brothers and our offspring.
But you hid one of them here.
Four were buried, spread to the four corners of the earth, out of reach of god's earthly followers.
How did you survive?
I left. There was a place in hell for me, sanctuary in the pit of darkness.
[Chanting]
[Continues chanting]
When I returned, I wanted god's favor.
I sought out the most sinful city in the land, and I burned it to the ground.
Sodom.
And he scoffed, named me the "penitent angel."
In my anger, I corrupted the daughters of one of his most righteous.
You remind me of Lot, rabbi.
He knew not to push me as well.
Not like his foolish wife.
[Ammon]
As they hid in a cave while Sodom burned, I convinced his daughters to get him drunk
and sleep with him, to carry on the line. God hates incest.
I also Knew his youngest daughter, Rachel, that night, in the biblical sense. But her son was human.
Prophecy bound me. No more giants, until one of you dug up my son.
Tonight...
I will mate with Angela, on the site and we will begin anew.
Angela?
Why not some harlot in an alley, or a nun in a convent?
It was her 5000 years ago in a cave outside Sodom and will be again tonight.
Angela? Rachel? Her soul?
Her essence.
Humankind will serve my children.
Out of order will come chaos.
From chaos, death and the end of mankind.
Oh, forgive me.
I am by no means an expert on the book of revelations,
but I have often thought that the Christians had something right
when they depicted the end of the world.
There is nothing that you described in there. You are going to fail.
But, I have to try, rabbi. It's what I do.
================================

[This movie Fallen Ones (2005) on Scifi Channel which was made specially
for Scifi Channel this year is selling the following propaganda items:]

> > 1) The Bible in Genesis is wrong
> There are a great many movies, series, and people who agree. Genesis is a
> largely ~symbolic~ story, as far as many modern humans are concerned.

Genesis seems to use powerful symbolism to convey a total moral denunciation of Sodomy.

> > 2) The Angels were wrong to destroy the Sodomites in Sodom.
> In the eyes of a God, who (pretty much everyone agrees) works in mysterious ways. Even in the Bible,
> God is alternately cruel & jealous (through the angels on the Old Testament), and kind and
> forgiving (through Jesus). Imminently possible that there's more going on in that story than the
> (heavily edited and anachronistic) text itself makes clear.

Edited ? You are now claiming the bible is not the bible ?

> > 3) The Angels were punished by God for destroying Sodom.
> > 4) One of the Angels who destroyed Sodom was cast out of Heaven
> > onto Earth.
> Again, I see nothing here that hints at any agenda aside from a mediocre attempt to create a supernatural villain with history.

Obviously, there are many people who would consider this corruption of the biblical story to be blasphemous.
Why not label such a story as blasphemous, so that people can decide whether or not to watch ?

> > 5) That Angel was so evil he tried to kill a lot more people indiscriminately in the world.
> If you say so. Personally I'm always leery of using "because he/she is/was
> evil" as a character motivation, but that's the writer's prerogative.

It may be the writer's prerogative, but the TV stations involved in airing such a story should lose their licence.

> > 6) That Angel was in fact an Arab/Moslem.
> Two counters:
> 1. Angels do not typically belong to human races or genders. They may wear the ~forms~ of those races
> to interact with humans (or to be portrayed by actors), but they themselves need not necessarily belong to that race.
> 2. All Angels who appear in the Bible would likely be of "Arabian" (or generally
> Near/Middle-Eastern stock) because that's where the Bible takes place.

I have not read enough of the bible or related documents to make a judgment what race they would be.
But I would assume they would be a-racial. The word Arabian implies Saudi Arabian.

> > 7) His name was Ammon, a personification of Israel's neighbor to the
> > east which has a capital or major city named Amman, Jordan,
> > just around 40 miles away.
> > In addition, Ammon was the name used to describe the people who
> > were Lot's progeny after the Sodomites were destroyed and Lot
> > repopulated the land with his daughters.
> I'm convinced that you're reading far too much into this. The writer(s)
> (who did write it, BTW?) likely saw "Ammon" in a book of names somewhere and used it.

The script specifically refers to the Ammon of the progeny of one of Lot's daughters described in the post-Sodom aftermath.

> > 8) Arab/Moslems are bad people and should be killed.
> How does this follow?

This movie juxtaposing Bosley's (a much liked aged US comedic actor) Jewish rabbi with the evil Arab angel.
Putting this forward within the current context of Jewish and now US extermination of Arabs in the
Middle East and the fact that Hollywood has never made a movie which represents Arabs as
the good guys or Jews/Israelis as the bad guy, makes clear that hatred for Arabs was the intent here.

> > 9) Arab/Moslems can be killed easily with conventional worldly weapons.
> How does this follow?

Gunfire is primarily what is used to kill the demons in this movie and a stab wound; not a stake through the heart.
Using conventional weapons keeps this hatred against Arabs in the real world, where the writers want to hit the viewer.

> > 10) "Let's go kill some Arab/Moslems Mr. and Mrs. America !"
> This is just plain stupid and paranoiac.

Another personal attack.
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FDR

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But how will you be able to get an erection again?

zaryza...@yahoo.com

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Ok, I'm calling BS. I simply don't believe that these posts are
genuine, and that you're basically a sophisticated troll trying to get
a rise out of people, and not really someone who gives a rat's ass
about supposed homosexuality on BSG. Who agrees?

I'll give you this, though, you certainly go draw more response than a
typical troll.

Andrealphus

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He's either a troll, or certifiably insane. I vote the later.


John Shocked

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What makes you think I care what you think about my posts ?

"Troll" -- a term invented by public relations firms representing products
on the Usenet to describe uncontrolled, unpaid for speech, which does
not represent any organization other than the opinion of the Speaker.
This type of speech is the greatest danger to public relations firms
who cannot control (by banning the speaker and deleting their messages)
on the Usenet like they can do on their own web sites and blogs.

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John Shocked

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"Andrealphus" <NOREAL...@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message news:jLtQe.3921$FW1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> He's either a troll, or certifiably insane. I vote the latter.

"Troll" -- a term invented by public relations firms representing products
on the Usenet to describe uncontrolled, unpaid for speech, which does
not represent any organization other than the opinion of the Speaker.
This type of speech is the greatest danger to public relations firms
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on the Usenet like they can do on their own web sites and blogs.

====================================================================


Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
has been destroyed.
Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.

In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.

Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire with Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by

BYTE ME!

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Perhaps, because you responded to his post?

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Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or
hereafter. –Thomas Paine

John Shocked

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>John Shocked wrote:
>> <zaryza...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1125278898.5...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>Ok, I'm calling BS. I simply don't believe that these posts are
>>>genuine, and that you're basically a sophisticated troll trying to get
>>>a rise out of people, and not really someone who gives a rat's ass
>>>about supposed homosexuality on BSG. Who agrees?
>>>I'll give you this, though, you certainly go draw more response than a typical troll.
>> What makes you think I care what you think about my posts ?
>> "Troll" -- a term invented by public relations firms representing products
>> on the Usenet to describe uncontrolled, unpaid for speech, which does
>> not represent any organization other than the opinion of the Speaker.
>> This type of speech is the greatest danger to public relations firms
>> who cannot control (by banning the speaker and deleting their messages)
>> on the Usenet like they can do on their own web sites and blogs.
>> Politics
>Perhaps, because you responded to his post?

Ignoring another person's posts on a subject matter is not what normal people do,
unless they are Hollywood Homosexual public relations hacks seeking to stem
a dangerous source of the truth from spreading that truth to other people.
Normal people respond with the truth.

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The Watch Dog

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Aug 28, 2005, 10:41:43 PM8/28/05
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John, you skipped the scene where Adama threw himself on Boomer in what
looked like a very Oz-style sexual manner, and finally had to be pulled
off because his heart was about to give out. You also ignored the scene
last week when Apollo and Starbuck kissed, and Apollo said he loved
Starbuck. I'm wondering how these fit into the sceme of things.

The Watch Dog

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Aug 28, 2005, 10:57:11 PM8/28/05
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Gadzooks, John, have you never been outdoors relieving yourself with
other men? Or have you ever used a urinal in a public restroom?

Was it all about sodomy?

When someone in your daily life (assuming you have one) says "You bet
your ass!", do you assume they're trying to make sodomy acceptable to
the people who can hear them?

When a news program does a show on bad conditions in American prisons,
do you jump up and say, "That's just like Oz! They'r trying to
normalize sodomy!"?

Your interpretations can be applied to anything, in particular, real
life (Did I say "rear life"??!? No, no, I didn't! Thank goodness!),
which has as much or more subliminal homosexual content as BSG. You're
obviously picking on the wrong target. Find the people in charge of
scripting real life, and then you'll be getting somewhere.

John Shocked

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Adama jumped on Boomer face to face which is the normal means of exerting dominance
and hurting the face and neck of one's opponent.
This is the opposite of what happened in the Sodomy 'play fights' in which Apollo was
engaged in the BSG Bastille Day and Colonial Day episodes.

Closet homosexuals often are forced to make such false displays of heterosexuality when
in truth they have no interest in the woman.
Note that in the first scene, in which Apollo makes a public display of a kiss on Starbuck,
she is already in a fresh sexual relationship and she is quite surprised by this.
Then in the second private interaction between Apollo and Starbuck in that episode,
he claims to love her, but it is clear that it is not in a sexual way.
That is normally voiced while eyeball to eyeball.
Starbuck is the one who tries to make more of his claim of love of her than he does.
The indication of both of those interactions is that Starbuck is interested in Apollo
sexually, but she is certain that he is homosexual and is incapable of the sort of
"love" she needs.

When Tigh says to Apollo over and over "you do not deserve to wear that uniform",
and "you put a gun to my head", what do you think his character is referring to ?
Sodomy or Sedition ?

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John Shocked

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> Gadzooks, John, have you never been outdoors relieving yourself with
> other men? Or have you ever used a urinal in a public restroom?
> Was it all about sodomy?
> When someone in your daily life (assuming you have one) says "You bet
> your ass!", do you assume they're trying to make sodomy acceptable to
> the people who can hear them?

Anyone claiming "you can bet your ass" is trying to bring attention to what they are saying
by making a crude reference to Sodomy, and the target's usual revulsion at the idea of it.

> When a news program does a show on bad conditions in American prisons,

> do you jump up and say, "That's just like Oz! They're trying to normalize sodomy!"?


> Your interpretations can be applied to anything, in particular, real
> life (Did I say "rear life"??!? No, no, I didn't! Thank goodness!),
> which has as much or more subliminal homosexual content as BSG. You're
> obviously picking on the wrong target. Find the people in charge of
> scripting real life, and then you'll be getting somewhere.

As I have mentioned Hollywood Homosexuals Neo-Conservatives have been scripting the
artificial reality of our real lives for at least 60 years now.
Their main two issues are Love Sodomy and Hate Arabs/Moslems.
The latter they have brought home in 100s of Hollywood movies in which they have blurred
Arabs/Moslems with Nazis (e.g.. Indiana Jones) as documented in books like:
e.g. Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People by Jack G. Shaheen 574 pages .
They have had incredible success at desensitizing the US public to mass murder of Arabs/Moslems
which has been occurring on a widespread basis since 1948.

The truth is that the Palestinians are not terrorists but in fact are the victims of terrorism, who have
had their land and property stolen from them and have been struggling to regain their land
and to oust terrorist Israeli occupation of their land since 1948, when Israel's crimes began
in townships like Yassin, where 100's of Palestinian men, women and children were machine gunned
to death by a state-sponsored Israeli gang led by Menachem Begin, who was later elected
Prime Minister of that criminal war crime ridden country, Israel.

What you think right now about Israel and the Palestinians is an artificial reality, created for your
enjoyment by your friends the Hollywood Homosexuals Neo-Conservatives.

Since 1992, Hollywood Homosexuals decided that the US public are such Chumps that the same
First Amendment 2-Step they have been pulling over the past 60 years is also good for their
favorite vice, Sodomy, and they have determined to only push actors who have demonstrated in their
personal life or on screen or both that they support Sodomy and have passed the
Hollywood Homosexual Sodomy Rite Of Passage.

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"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Andrealphus" <NOREAL...@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
> news:jLtQe.3921$FW1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> <zaryza...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1125278898.5...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Ok, I'm calling BS. I simply don't believe that these posts are
>>> genuine, and that you're basically a sophisticated troll trying to get
>>> a rise out of people, and not really someone who gives a rat's ass
>>> about supposed homosexuality on BSG. Who agrees?
>>> I'll give you this, though, you certainly go draw more response than a
>>> typical troll.
>> He's either a troll, or certifiably insane. I vote the latter.
>
> "Troll" -- a term invented by public relations firms representing
> products
> on the Usenet to describe uncontrolled, unpaid for speech, which does
> not represent any organization other than the opinion of the Speaker.
> This type of speech is the greatest danger to public relations firms
> who cannot control (by banning the speaker and deleting their messages)
> on the Usenet like they can do on their own web sites and blogs.

Yep, I'd say this guy was a troll.

FDR

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"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "The Watch Dog" <tir...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1125283303.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> John, you skipped the scene where Adama threw himself on Boomer in what
>> looked like a very Oz-style sexual manner, and finally had to be pulled
>> off because his heart was about to give out. You also ignored the scene
>> last week when Apollo and Starbuck kissed, and Apollo said he loved
>> Starbuck. I'm wondering how these fit into the sceme of things.
>
> Adama jumped on Boomer face to face which is the normal means of exerting
> dominance
> and hurting the face and neck of one's opponent.
> This is the opposite of what happened in the Sodomy 'play fights' in which
> Apollo was
> engaged in the BSG Bastille Day and Colonial Day episodes.

So it made you horny and you wanted to fuck a guy. You go girl.

ANIM8Rfsk

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Am I gonna have to killfile the subject word 'sodomy' and miss all the
legitimate rec.arts.sf.tv sodomy threads?


--

You Can't Stop the Signal


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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:oBvQe.135316$E95.125587@fed1read01...
>> "The Watch Dog" <tir...@aol.com> wrote in message news:1125283303.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> John, you skipped the scene where Adama threw himself on Boomer in what
>>> looked like a very Oz-style sexual manner, and finally had to be pulled
>>> off because his heart was about to give out. You also ignored the scene
>>> last week when Apollo and Starbuck kissed, and Apollo said he loved
>>> Starbuck. I'm wondering how these fit into the sceme of things.
>> Adama jumped on Boomer face to face which is the normal means of exerting dominance
>> and hurting the face and neck of one's opponent.
>> This is the opposite of what happened in the Sodomy 'play fights' in which Apollo was engaged in the BSG Bastille Day and
>> Colonial Day episodes.
> So it made you horny and you wanted to fuck a guy. You go girl.

I think most people with perceptive minds who watched these scenes were absolutely
disgusted by what they saw on the screen.
Citizens need a method at the ready to be able to have this content banned, and then
allow Hollywood to be Hollywood.

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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0ZtQe.133418$E95.25564@fed1read01...
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>>> <zaryza...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1125278898.5...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Ok, I'm calling BS. I simply don't believe that these posts are
>>>> genuine, and that you're basically a sophisticated troll trying to get
>>>> a rise out of people, and not really someone who gives a rat's ass
>>>> about supposed homosexuality on BSG. Who agrees?
>>>> I'll give you this, though, you certainly go draw more response than a typical troll.
>>> He's either a troll, or certifiably insane. I vote the latter.
>> "Troll" -- a term invented by public relations firms representing products
>> on the Usenet to describe uncontrolled, unpaid for speech, which does
>> not represent any organization other than the opinion of the Speaker.
>> This type of speech is the greatest danger to public relations firms
>> who cannot control (by banning the speaker and deleting their messages)
>> on the Usenet like they can do on their own web sites and blogs.
> Yep, I'd say this guy was a troll.

Sounds like Hollywood Homosexual public relations workers are making this allegation.
Amazing how no one we ever run into in real life who does not spend their life
working on the Usenet, even knows what the term "troll" means.

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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:

> "Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050828103742.9794N-100000@mail...
> > On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> >> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
> >> has been destroyed.
> > Disappointed?
>
> I am absolutely disappointed that I do not have a legit science fiction TV series to watch and that
> this Hollywood Homosexual agenda Gays In Space muck is being presented as Sodomy
> indoctrination for you and your kids.

You mean BSG is the *only* sci-fi TV series on TV, or are *all* of
them promoting sodomy?

> >> Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
> >> monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.
> > I never saw any of that, but I'm not obsessed with sodomy like you are, John. It's amazing what
> > a difference an obsession with sodomy makes when watching a television show.
>
> It is he BSG Hollywood Homosexuals who are obsessed with spreading the word that 'Sodomy's ok'
> to you and your kids. It will not work on me, because I recognize it; it will work on those whose minds
> are too weak to recognize what is being done to them covertly and illegally.

Right--you're the only sane one, all the rest of us are crazy.
If I were you I wouldn't like those odds.

> >> In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
> >> still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
> >> Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.
> > What an imagination you have, John! I didn't see any male nudity in that scene, but then again I don't have
> > your "Sodomysight". Have you ever watched "Gilligan's Island"? If so, what are your thoughts on the
> > Gilligan/Skipper relationship?
>
> There was nudity of both male procreative organs in that final meeting between Zerak and Meier, although
> the 'money shot' as they call it was not visible but was only inches below the visible area on the TV screen.

How do you know it was there if you couldn't see it? Does your
"Sodomysight" grant you extraordinary powers?

> >> Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by
> >> a process of elimination to win Zerak's devotion. However, the Cylons believe strongly in procreation,
> >> even in this case bestial procreation,
> >> and thus it was hardly a difficult choice for her to choose to kill Meier instead.
> >> Thus, the way is now clear for a monogamous Sodomy relationship between Apollo and Zerak.
> > Is it that you're being spurned by a homosexual lover, so you project your own problems onto BSG?
>
> I doubt there is anyone watching BSG who is being spurned by a homosexual partner, mainly because
> there are so few homosexuals and saying "no" to homosex is not their habitual modus operandi.

So you haven't been spurned by a homosexual lover. Then again,
you *are* a proven liar, so it's unwise to simply take your word for it.

> Here is the truth about this (eight partners a year outside their main partnership) :

snip - if it's from you, it's almost certainly a lie, or sloppy research
at best.

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Right. The Left is snide and sarcastic, the Right is dangerous and
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Jim Phillips

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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:

> <zaryza...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1125278898.5...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Ok, I'm calling BS. I simply don't believe that these posts are
> > genuine, and that you're basically a sophisticated troll trying to get
> > a rise out of people, and not really someone who gives a rat's ass
> > about supposed homosexuality on BSG. Who agrees?
> > I'll give you this, though, you certainly go draw more response than a typical troll.
>
> What makes you think I care what you think about my posts ?

You responded.

Jim Phillips

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A smokescreen to hide the sodomy, obviously.

Jim Phillips

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> "FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:LSwQe.18797$PM3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:oBvQe.135316$E95.125587@fed1read01...
> >> "The Watch Dog" <tir...@aol.com> wrote in message news:1125283303.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>> John, you skipped the scene where Adama threw himself on Boomer in what
> >>> looked like a very Oz-style sexual manner, and finally had to be pulled
> >>> off because his heart was about to give out. You also ignored the scene
> >>> last week when Apollo and Starbuck kissed, and Apollo said he loved
> >>> Starbuck. I'm wondering how these fit into the sceme of things.
> >> Adama jumped on Boomer face to face which is the normal means of exerting dominance
> >> and hurting the face and neck of one's opponent.
> >> This is the opposite of what happened in the Sodomy 'play fights' in which Apollo was engaged in the BSG Bastille Day and
> >> Colonial Day episodes.
> > So it made you horny and you wanted to fuck a guy. You go girl.
>
> I think most people with perceptive minds who watched these scenes were absolutely
> disgusted by what they saw on the screen.

Since you are the *only* person who sees sodomy in these scenes, you
obviously believe that you are the only person with a "perceptive mind".

> Citizens need a method at the ready to be able to have this content banned, and then
> allow Hollywood to be Hollywood.

They're called "ratings". Banning content is called "censorship";
at least have the courage to use the right word.

Jim Phillips

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Gay porn (like he did before BSG came along).

FDR

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> "FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> "The Watch Dog" <tir...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1125283303.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> John, you skipped the scene where Adama threw himself on Boomer in what
>>>> looked like a very Oz-style sexual manner, and finally had to be pulled
>>>> off because his heart was about to give out. You also ignored the scene
>>>> last week when Apollo and Starbuck kissed, and Apollo said he loved
>>>> Starbuck. I'm wondering how these fit into the sceme of things.
>>> Adama jumped on Boomer face to face which is the normal means of
>>> exerting dominance
>>> and hurting the face and neck of one's opponent.
>>> This is the opposite of what happened in the Sodomy 'play fights' in
>>> which Apollo was engaged in the BSG Bastille Day and Colonial Day
>>> episodes.
>> So it made you horny and you wanted to fuck a guy. You go girl.
>
> I think most people with perceptive minds who watched these scenes were
> absolutely
> disgusted by what they saw on the screen.

I don't think you and your seven imaginary friends count as "most". And I
think that you were disgusted which made you erotically stimulated.

John Shocked

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>>>> "The Watch Dog" <tir...@aol.com> wrote in message news:1125283303.7...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> John, you skipped the scene where Adama threw himself on Boomer in what
>>>>> looked like a very Oz-style sexual manner, and finally had to be pulled
>>>>> off because his heart was about to give out. You also ignored the scene
>>>>> last week when Apollo and Starbuck kissed, and Apollo said he loved
>>>>> Starbuck. I'm wondering how these fit into the sceme of things.
>>>> Adama jumped on Boomer face to face which is the normal means of exerting dominance
>>>> and hurting the face and neck of one's opponent.
>>>> This is the opposite of what happened in the Sodomy 'play fights' in which Apollo was engaged in the BSG Bastille Day and
>>>> Colonial Day episodes.
>>> So it made you horny and you wanted to fuck a guy. You go girl.
>> I think most people with perceptive minds who watched these scenes were absolutely
>> disgusted by what they saw on the screen.
> I don't think you and your seven imaginary friends count as "most". And I think that you were disgusted which made you erotically
> stimulated.

"Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050622071524.29680C-100000@mail...
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> > "Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050619061932.15611A-100000@mail...
> > > On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> > > > "Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050618103123.15611r-100000@mail...
> > > > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> > > > > > "Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050617091948.15611c-100000@mail...


> > > > > > > On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Andrealphus" <NOREAL...@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message

> > news:j6mse.6358$pa3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...


> > > > > > > > > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > > news:p_kse.1193$eV4.504@fed1read01...


> > > > > > > > > > "Andrealphus" <NOREAL...@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > > > news:Cfise.6257$pa3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...


> > > > > > > > > >> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > > >> news:Udhse.1172$eV4.149@fed1read01...


> > > > > > > > > >> > "Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > > >> > news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050616073646.15611J-100000@mail...


> > > > > > > > > >> >> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > "Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message

> > > > > > > > > >> >> > news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050613071343.12524L-100000@mail...
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > When I challenged you that subliminal messages don't actually
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > work, you posted a URL that says that subliminal messages don't work.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Have you found any reputable websites that provide evidence
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that subliminal messages work?
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > http://www.answers.com/topic/subliminal-message
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > snip
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > It quoted the existing statements to that effect but you have to
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > recognize that those who utilize subliminal messages are deceitful
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > people and deny using it and of course they deny that it even works.
> > > > > > > > > >> > It is not a question of seeing the subliminal advertisement.
> > > > > > > > > >> > It is the issue of Noticing the advertisement,
> > > > > > > > > >> If you see the bottle of Pepsi, and you don't consciously notice it, then
> > > > > > > > > >> I suggest you pull your head out of your ass the next time you watch
> > > > > > > > > >> television.
> > > > > > > > > > Recognizing and dealing with the occurrence of something consciously
> > > > > > > > > > every time one is confronted with it is not normal.
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, right. It seems pretty normal to me. I see Pepsi, I consciously
> > > > > > > > > recognize Pepsi.
> > > > > > > > Most people do not.
> > > > > > > Why do you say that?
> > > > > > Because the experts, the cigarette companies, consider product placements
> > > > > > to be "subliminal",
> > > > > Nope, you're confused. The use of quotation marks around the word
> > > > > subliminal indicate that it's not to be taken literally, only figuratively.
> > > > Wrong, those are "quotation marks", not 'scare quotes', and thus they indicate
> > > > that the writer was referring to previous correspondence which specifically
> > > > encouraged and inquired about "subliminal" advertising.
> > > Not so--show me the correspondence where the referred to subliminal
> > > without such quotation marks.
> > That is not necessary,
> Yes it is, if you want to support your claim.

In the quoted paragraph, Cowan 2 phrases are quoted, both "pleasant situations"
and "subliminal". They clearly refer to the identical concept and the identical
earlier conversation betwen them where this type of subliminal advertising
was discussed.

> > These are official documents describing an explicit strategy which has
> > psychological academic underpinnings and asking for money and
> > shipments of cigarettes to carry out these policies.
> > These documents do not indicate any predilection for jokes or flippant
> > statements.
> It's not a joke, it's simply referring to a non-subliminal technique
> that they think will work as a subliminal technique (they don't understand
> that subliminal techniques don't work).

In the quoted paragraph, Cowan 2 phrases are quoted, both "pleasant situations"
and "subliminal". They clearly refer to the identical concept and the identical
earlier conversation betwen them where this type of subliminal advertising
was discussed.

> > Selling a product that kills people and remaining under the federal
> > radar is serious business. Who wants to go to jail or be sued.
> So they would *never* use the word subliminal in a literal sense.
> Thanks for supporting my argument.

In such serious correspondence involving selling poison to you and your kids
and staying under the federal radar, flippant statements would not be used.

> > > > > Go ahead and look it up in an English textbook.
> > > > > And why are the cigarette companies experts on subliminal ads?
> > > > As I stated, the Cigarette companies were banned from advertising in most venues,
> > > > so while some of those venues wanted to accept some of the huge amounts of
> > > > advertising money the cigarette companies budget each year for advertisements,
> > > > they did not want to do so openly. Thus, cigarette companies were forced to
> > > > become experts at 'hidden advertisements'.
> > > No, you just demonstrated that it would be advantageous if they were
> > > experts at hidden advertisements. It would also be advantageous if they
> > > were experts at mind control and enslaved the human race, forcing all to
> > > become smokers. That hasn't happened, and neither has subliminal ads.
> > Enslaving the whole human race is a tall order which is unnecessary to them.
> But it would be advantageous--are you saying that just because
> something would be advantageous that it doesn't necessarily exist?

I doubt enslaving the whole human race would be possible but especially in
countries which are poor and where Hollywood Homosexuals are exporting
their culture to those countries, those countries likely will have higher
rates of smoking.

> > They just want to increase by some quota the number of chumps who will watch
> > the subliminal advertising and be conned into starting to or resuming to smoke.
> But there's no subliminal advertising--if there was, the Feds would
> have come down on them like a ton of bricks.

That definitely should have happened with the FCC (Federal Communications
Commission) for broadcast TV and radio and FTC (Federal Trade Commission)
for Movies and print.
However, when was the last time you heard on the news who the members of
those Commissions names are, or even the Chairman.
Media corruption is at the root of this problem.

> > > > For instance, ESPN received money indirectly from Cigarette companies
> > > > for showing racing cars going around the track with the cigarette company
> > > > logos on them.
> > > So? The logos are clearly visible, so it's not subliminal.
> > They are visible but not noticed. Every subliminal advertisement has to be
> > visible to work at all.
> But if anyone ever notices them then they are not subliminal. Just
> because someone doesn't notice something doesn't mean that something is
> subliminal.

That is the whole idea of subliminal. In the case of the child hearing a loud
noise when shown a furry animal, he obviously noticing both items; he just
does not recognize that he is being conned bu the juxtaposition of the two items.
Thus that lack of knowledge deprives him of the reasoning necessary to repel
the effect, and it works on a subliminal level.

> > > > > Remember, we're using the standard definition of subliminal (below the
> > > > > threshold of conscious perception), not your own personal definition of
> > > > > subliminal.
> > > > > snip
> > > > Again, as I stated to someone else here, dictionary definitions of words are not
> > > > examples of scholarship in this area, especially when the whole idea of subliminal
> > > > advertising has been surrounded by illegality and secrecy.
> > > It's also been surrounded by failure.
> > When the people writing those dictionary definitions calls up the experts in
> > the cigarette companies and their public relations firms and asks them about
> > subliminal advertisements, they are repeatedly told that subliminal advertisements
> > do not exist and do not even work.
> Experiments have shown that subliminal messages simply do not work.
> It's really that simple. There may be people out there that claim this, but
> there's no evidence for their claim.

No tests that I have seen prove this. And it is clear that the public relations firms
have an incentive to project to the public that it does not work, especially
since the practise (millisecond flickering) was banned.
However, there are numerous successful tests like the child with the furry animal
and the loud noise which prove that that type of subliminal advertising does work.

> > Just like the public relations hacks on this
> > Newsgroup who repeatedely claim that there is no Sodomy in Battlestar Galactica.
> Stop lying, John--I'm not a "public relations hack" and I repeatedly
> claim there's no sodomy on BSG.

Who knows what you are.

> > > > However, "(below the threshold of conscious perception)" is generally the correct
> > > > description of the concept.
> > > And *all* of your examples have failed to reach that criterion,
> > > since they have all been clearly visible. Thanks for agreeing with me
> > > on this one, John, although I'm pretty sure it was by accident.
> > Just to clarify: the only movie product placements which are Not classic
> > subliminal advertisements,
> You have not demonstrated that *any* ads are "classic subliminal
> advertisements", so stop claiming that they exist.
> snip

Again, this is subliminal advertising technology:


Here is some more information on the types of psychologists who work
at advertising companies like William Esty Agency, and their interest in
controlling the future behavior of your kids.

http://fates.cns.muskingum.edu/~psych/psycweb/history/watson.htm
====================================================
[John B. Watson (1878 - 1958)]
After leaving Johns Hopkins University, Watson went into the advertising business
. He wanted to use his scientific theories of behaviorism and the emotions
of fear, rage, and love to improve the effects of advertising on the "animal"
or what we know as consumers. Watson began his training at
J Walter Thompson Agency with Stanley B. Resor. He became an ambassador
and in 1924 he stepped up to become vice president of the company.
While he was there he also wrote and sold books about the control over
human emotions. Later he moved onto work for William Esty Agency
until he retired in 1945. In 1920 he published his most famous conditioning
experiment; the "Little Albert" study in which he produced, in a small child,
conditioned fear of a white rat by repeatedly presenting it paired with the
loud "clanging" of a metal bar. This conditioned fear was then shown to generalize
to other white furry objects, including a Santa mask and Watson's own white hair
(Watson & Rayner, 1920). In another well-known article (Watson, 1920),
he argued that thinking -- a mental activity that seems to involve no overt behavior
-- is nothing more than subvocal speaking. He later retracted this extreme view,
however (Watson & McDougall, 1929).
Although Watson's academic star burned brightly, it was destined to be short-lived.
Like his predecessor, Baldwin, he was forced to resign his chair at Hopkins
because of a sex scandal involving his assistant, Rayner. He continued to publish
books on psychology--Behaviorism (1924) and The Psychological Care of
Infant and Child (1928)--but by the 1930s his main career interest had shifted
to the advertising business, and he ended his scholarly pursuits.
=====================================================

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Numan

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> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo,
> Zerak and Meier
> has been destroyed.

Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?


Numan

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>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.

>> How will you be able to masturbate now?
>
> Heck, I thought this was a science fiction series.

> As has been discussed here, Sodomy is a major source of disease because it
> is unnatural
> activity of a hard object in the anal tract which causes cuts and blood to
> flow and
> exchange bacteria and viruses with the semen deposited.
> And while the blood and faecal excrement can be washed away, the bacteria
> and virus
> borne diseases remain, often permanently, often fatally.
>
> Politics

Well, I see the light. John doesn't practice sodomy. Sodomy doesn't just
include anal sex. It also includes oral. This means Johan has never had
head.
No wonder he acts the way he does. I'd be a know-it-all prick too if I never
got any hummers.


John Shocked

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If you do engage in that behavior, by all means use a Dental Dam.
Here is more information on the subject:


=========================================================
In these 1994 Saturday Night Live skits, Patrick Stewart of Star Trek: The Next Generation,
to his credit, says: "say No to anal sex !".
As such, Stewart, who I am sure contributed to both of these 1994 Saturday Night Live
scripts, clearly wanted to denounce the direction the Star Trek franchise took at that time
when it was taken over by Hollywood Homosexuals, after the Oct 24 1991
death of Gene Roddenberry and the takeover of the Star Trek enterprise by Rick Berman.

Episodes like ST:TNG The Outcast in 1992 and the whole script of the new series
Star Trek Deep Space Nine (1993-1999) with the androgynous Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell)
character were designed primarily to sell Sodomy to you and your kids in this new Berman era.

Politics


===============================================
[Transcripts of 2 Saturday Night Live skits excerpted from the
February 5, 1994 Patrick Stewart appearance from closed captions]
===============================================

>>> Hi! Welcome to Sexy Cakes, the erotic bakery.
>> I've walked by this place. I never thought I'd go inside it.
>> Well, I think you'll find that it's a little more fun than an ordinary bakery.
>> Yeah, my friend's havin' a bachelor party, and I thought it might be kind of fun if I got him an erotic cake.
>> Well, you have come to the right place.
I have the perfect sexy cake for a bachelor party.
Oh, oh -- what about this one?
What do you think?
>> Looks like a woman goin' to the bathroom.
[ Light laughter ]
>> Yeah, it's very sexy.
[ Laughter ]
>> What else do you have?
>> Ooh, I understand. It's not, perhaps, your cup of tea.
Perhaps -- maybe this sexy cake might be more up your alley.
>> This is the exact same cake.
>> No, no, no. This is chocolate.
[ Laughter ]
>> Yeah, but it's still a woman goin' to the bathroom.
>> Exactly.
Oh, could you excuse me for a moment?
>>Hi.
Hi, we're here to pick up our cake.
>> Yes, the man-on-man lemon meringue.
[ Laughter ]
>> Right.
I took a little artistic license with this one, but, well,
I think you'll enjoy the results.
>> Hey, this is a woman going to the bathroom.
[ Laughter ]
>> Yeah, it's very exciting, isn't it?
That'll be $15.
>> We wanted a cake of two guys having sex.
>> Yeah, I know.
Well, I guess you can say I sexied it up for you. No extra charge.
>> Party's tonight. We'll take it.
>> Thank you.
Oh, you'll have to excuse me. It has been like this all day.
>> What other types of cakes do you have?
>> Well, why don't we take a look at our catalog?
Now, you see, this shows every sexy, titillating cake we offer.
Oh, now, here's a woman squatting behind some bushes.
[ Laughter ]
Look, the leaves are made of spun sugar.
And -- oh.
Here's a lady using a little marzipan port-a-potty.
>> So all your cakes are women going to the bathroom?
>> Yeah.
[ Laughter ]
What's your point?
>> Well, don't you have anything else?
>> Look, maybe you don't understand. This is an erotic bakery.
>> I'm sorry.
I just don't find this very erotic.
>> A woman going to the bathroom?
You don't find it erotic?
>> No, not really.
>> Well, then what, pray tell, would you suggest we do put on our erotic cakes?
[ Light laughter ]
>> I don't know --people having sex?
Female and male genitalia. You know, somethin' like that.
>> Well, if that's what you're after, I suggest you try Hostess or Sara Lee.
[ Laughter ]
>> Can't you just make a cake with a couple on it having sex?
>> All right, look, I'll tell you what I will do.
I will make a cake with a woman and a man going to the bathroom.
[ Light laughter ]
And then, that way, you'll be happy, and your friends will be happy.
>> I don't think my friends would like that, either.
>> Well, I would certainly like to meet these friends of yours sometime!
[ Light laughter ]
>> Look, could we just have a cake with just sex and no going to the bathroom?
>> May I remind you that you are going to have to eat this cake?
[ Light laughter ]
>> I'll tell you what --just give me a regular cake with nothing on it.
>> I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
>> Why?!
>> This is some kind of joke, isn't it? Who put you up to this, a fraternity?
You get out! Go on. Get out of here, young man!
>> Hi. It's my fiancé's birthday. Can I get a cake shaped like a woman going to the bathroom?
>> Absolutely.
[ Cheers and applause ]

===========================================

[ Cheers and applause ]
[ Nickelodeon theme plays ]
You show me and I'll show you Dr. Elders will show us, too 'cause you're never
too young and you're never too small to know the difference between a penis and a ball
yay
>> Nickelodeon presents --
"show and tell," with Surgeon General Dr. Joycelyn elders.
>> Good morning, boys and girls. And welcome to "Show and Tell."
You know, learning safe sex is as easy as a-b-C.
Did somebody say "a-b-c"?
"A" is for "abstinence."
Which -- I have to be honest with you -- is a Reagan-era fantasy.
[ Light laughter ]
Children are going to have sex. It's as easy as that.
Okay?
"B" is for "bastard."
That's a technical word for the product of an out-of-wedlock pregnancy.
Now, do we have any bastards here today?
[ Laughter ]
Come on, Tony. You're a bastard. Raise your hand.
[ Laughter ]
There's no shame in that. Good, Tony.
You know, Jesse Jackson is a bastard. As are all of Goldie Hawn's children.
[ Laughter ]
Can you say "Jesse Jackson" and "Goldie Hawn"?
>> All: Jesse Jackson and Goldie Hawn.
>> Good!
Now, what we are tryin' to do is to make fewer bastards, which brings us to "C."
Now, what is "c" for, children?
>> All: "Condoms"!
>> That's right.
Very good.
We learn that every week.
Can't hit the condoms too hard.
Condom, condom, condom!
[ Laughter ]
Well, boys and girls, I think "a" through "c" is good for today.
Tomorrow, we'll study "d" through "G."
That's "dental dam" through "gonorrhea."
[ Bell rings ]
Oh, goody, goody, goody!
It's time for our special guest. And he's come all the way
from the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta.
Boys and girls, let's give a warm "Show and Tell" welcome to Dr. Ian Menchenson.
[ Cheers and applause ]
Welcome, Dr. Menchenson.
>> Thank you, General Elders. It's a great pleasure to be here.
We, at the Center for Disease Control, agree that kids are
never too young to hear frank and open discussion of sexuality and health issues.
And that's why we are terribly excited about our new program,
which is called "Project Just Say No To Anal Intercourse."
[ Laughter ]
>> Now, what do you have to show the children?
>> Well -- this is what we at "Project Just Say No To Anal Intercourse" call the visible rectum.
[ Laughter ]
Now, this --this -- it's a learning tool.
And we have developed it especially for children aged 6 to 8.
>> Uh-huh, and how does it work?
>> How does it work?
Well, basically, we think it's absolutely vital for children to know that,
during anal intercourse, the tearing and ripping of the anal membrane can expose the
receptor's bloodstream to a large dose of HIV-laden ejaculate --
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
>> I'm sorry?
>> No, doctor.
I think you're frightenin' the children.
>> Good.
Good!
That's just what we're trying to do at "Project Just Say No to Anal Intercourse."
You see, we want to discourage anal intercourse among children, and by alerting them to the dangers --
>> No, no, no, doctor!
I think maybe the visible rectum is a bad idea.
>> Oh. I have drawings.
>> No, no, no.
I'm afraid that we've run out
of time.
Kids, let's thank Dr. Menchenson.
[ Applause ]
Well, that's all the time we have for today. But before we go, I should
announce that this was our last show for nickelodeon.
Evidently, we've been gettin' a lot of negative mail from some very narrow-minded people.
But that's okay.
We're movin' to PBS on weekdays, following "Daddy's Got A Boyfriend."
[ Laughter ]
And remember, boys and girls, if you're gonna have anal-oral
contact and you're not sure of your partner's history --
>> All: Use a dental dam.
>> Bye-bye, now.
Bye-bye.
[ Applause ]
==================================

John Shocked

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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?

Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.

==========================================================
Also, I have yet to understand the true meaning of this strange morph of the well known phrase
which Zerak utters to Meier when Meier continues to court him earlier:
"Getting blood on your hands is a lot harder than washing it off."

FDR

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> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>
> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.

This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to
hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to tune in everyweek. I
don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.

John Shocked

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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01...
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>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
> This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
> tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.

I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done
with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.
People en masse need to recognize what is in this series and stop watching it.
There is some entertainment content in the series which makes my task a little easier.

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FDR

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>>>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>>>> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>> This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim
>> to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to tune in everyweek.
>> I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that
>> simple.
>
> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is
> being done
> with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.
> People en masse need to recognize what is in this series and stop watching
> it.
> There is some entertainment content in the series which makes my task a
> little easier.

The only one seeing these "things" is you. Not one person here agrees with
you.

BYTE ME!

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>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01...
>>
>>>"Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>>Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>
>>>>Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>
>>>Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>
>>This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
>>tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.
>
>
> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done
> with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.
> People en masse need to recognize what is in this series and stop watching it.
> There is some entertainment content in the series which makes my task a little easier.
>
Sure you do. That has to be the only reason you would watch something
that you claim is evil and disgusting.

Jenn

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"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
> >> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo,
> >> Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
> > Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>
> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.

I admit it; I'm gay because I once watched BSG. I feel better now.

zaryza...@yahoo.com

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John Shocked wrote:

> Sounds like Hollywood Homosexual public relations workers are making this allegation.

Not the Hollywood Homosexual public relations workers, just me.

> Amazing how no one we ever run into in real life who does not spend their life
> working on the Usenet, even knows what the term "troll" means.

I don't spend my life working on Usenet, and in fact don't know anybody
who does, but I know what the word means.

Anyway, the reason why I think that you're someone having fun with this
rather than a genuine crank is that you seem to watch the shows in
absurd detail. Surely, a person who was actually offended by it all
would be satisfied seeing a few episodes and then commenting on the
supposed hidden agenda, whereas you obviously watch the show every week
and even go so far as to explain subtle plot points. So when you
demonstrate such careful knowledge of the show I think you tip your
hand, so to speak. However, as I said in the above comment, as trolls
go you're very good. Most trolls just type some offensive comment in a
newsgroup and hardly anyone listens, whereas you have an interesting
gimmick explaining all this and get a lot of people to respond. Heck,
I'm responding now. There's a certain talent in that, I have to admit.

John Shocked

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Come out, come out, wherever you are. And leave the Science Fiction TV genre alone.


===================================================

Here is the truth about this (eight partners a year outside their main partnership) :

==========================================================
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2003/jul/03071405.html

Monday July 14, 2003
Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study AMSTERDAM, July 14, 2003
(LifeSiteNews.com) - As Canada and several U.S. states move toward the legalization of so-
called homosexual "marriage," a new study has found that homosexual partnerships last, on
average, only one-and-a-half years.

The study is based on the health records of young Dutch homosexuals by Dr. Maria Xiridou of
the Amsterdam Municipal Health Service and published in the May issue of the journal AIDS.
It also found that men in homosexual relationships have an average of eight partners a year
outside their main partnership, adding more evidence to the "stereotype" that homosexuals
tend to be promiscuous.

The findings are "proof positive that these relationships ... will never be as stable as a
normal heterosexual relationship regardless of what institutions or laws are changed," said
Pete LaBarbara, senior policy analyst at Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family
Institute, who predicts that homosexual promiscuity will remain "rampant."
==========================================================

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BYTE ME!

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>
>>In article <wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01>,
>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>>>Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo,
>>>>>Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>
>>>>Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>
>>>Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>
>>I admit it; I'm gay because I once watched BSG. I feel better now.
>
>
> Come out, come out, wherever you are. And leave the Science Fiction TV genre alone.
>
>
> ===================================================
>
> Here is the truth about this ...................
>
> ==========================================================

There is no sodomy, no sodomy symbolism and never has been any in battle
star galactica episode. You imagined it all.

FDR

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> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1qGQe.18$lU2...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4mkQe.132956$E95.97625@fed1read01...
>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>>>> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>> How will you be able to masturbate now?
>>> Heck, I thought this was a science fiction series.
>>> As has been discussed here, Sodomy is a major source of disease because
>>> it is unnatural activity of a hard object in the anal tract which causes
>>> cuts and blood to flow and exchange bacteria and viruses with the semen
>>> deposited.
>>> And while the blood and faecal excrement can be washed away, the
>>> bacteria and virus borne diseases remain, often permanently, often
>>> fatally.
>>> Politics
>> Well, I see the light. John doesn't practice sodomy. Sodomy doesn't just
>> include anal sex. It also includes oral. This means Johan has never had
>> head.
>> No wonder he acts the way he does. I'd be a know-it-all prick too if I
>> never
>> got any hummers.
>
> If you do engage in that behavior, by all means use a Dental Dam.
> Here is more information on the subject:

Funny how you would know about them.

Jenn

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> "Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01>,
> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
> >> >> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
> >> >> Apollo,
> >> >> Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
> >> > Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
> >> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
> >> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
> > I admit it; I'm gay because I once watched BSG. I feel better now.
>
> Come out, come out, wherever you are. And leave the Science Fiction TV genre
> alone.

I'll try, but the shows made me so gay that it's difficult to not watch
now.

The Watch Dog

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>
> Monday July 14, 2003
> Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study AMSTERDAM, July 14, 2003
> (LifeSiteNews.com) - As Canada and several U.S. states move toward the legalization of so-
> called homosexual "marriage," a new study has found that homosexual partnerships last, on
> average, only one-and-a-half years.

And how long do heterosexual "partnerships" last? Not heterosexual
MARRIAGES, since the gays studied weren't married - their partnerships
would cover both short-term and long-term relationships, and you have
to compare that to the same thing for straights.

Most of the straights I know date; break up; date some more; maybe live
together for a while; break up; date; maybe get married; maybe get
divorced; date some more; marry again.

Can you tell me how long the average heterosexual relationship lasts?

John Shocked

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John Shocked wrote:
> "Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:jennconducts-9CF2...@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
>>In article <wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01>,
>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>>>>Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo,
>>>>>Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>I admit it; I'm gay because I once watched BSG. I feel better now.
> Come out, come out, wherever you are. And leave the Science Fiction TV genre alone.
> ===================================================
> Here is the truth about this ...................
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2003/jul/03071405.html
> ==========================================================

There is no sodomy, no sodomy symbolism and never has been any in battle
star galactica episode. You imagined it all.

======================================================================
I reprise some of the facts here:

1) This Battlestar Galactica series seems to have a continuing Homosexual
agenda and determination to sell Homosexuality to the masses, by hook or by
crook. Back in the 3rd episode (Bastille Day) the whole Zerak relationship was
the producers trying to put Apollo and Zerak in bed together.

The producers feinted with a heterosexual rape, then hit their true target
which was to show Apollo being dragged to the ground face down in an Oz- like
prison attack. Throughout this episode there is verbal imagery of Apollo
"choosing sides". That is, choosing the homosexual lifestyle.

Oz (1997-2003) was a prison based TV series shown on HBO (homosexual dominated
US premium station) which was which regularly showed prison homosexual rape
and sex.

Bastille Day is known in Europe to be a major celebratory day for European
homosexuals. Apparently, in the next episode, Zerak returns and you better
believe that the producers will be determined to reestablish and develop the
possible Homosexual relationship between Apollo and Zerak.

Why do you think that the statements "You Can Bet Your Ass (arse)" and "The Back Door
is Open" when such prominent parts of this weeks script (The Hand Of God),
both in reference to Apollo ?

So if you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series or if you have
kids you do not want to be sold Homosexuality by this series, watch out.

2) Again in the Colonial Day episode the Battlestar producers show us the side
of Apollo they showed us in episode 3 Bastille Day: Apollo being pulled down to
the ground face down, sunny side up in an Oz-like grappling with another man.
It should be clear now to everyone watching this series that there is a pattern
in showing these Oz-like scenes where it appears that Apollo is about to be
raped by another man. The producers of this series are desperate to show at the
very least the symbolism of Sodomy in the series. It is very important to them.
In addition, in the grappling with this other man is a freeze frame in which
Apollo and this same man are arm in arm, as if walking down the street or from
the altar, man and man.

3) In the BSG last episode of the season, Kobol's Last Gleaming Part II, the
Hollywood Homosexuals in control of BSG were able to crowbar yet another
Homosexual Rape symbolism scene into the show in the scene in which Boomer is
approached and surrounded by what appears to be around 5 semi-nude sister
Boomer-copies who appear to be just about to forcibly undress and rape her.

Her response is "oh no, this is not happening". Many Homosexuals just love to
be the first one to turn someone, maybe your son, perhaps in that Catholic
Church rectory, onto that special secret intimacy they promote, for the first
time. They are absolutely loving this scene. They respond to Boomer: "you're
confused and scared... but it's ok", as they forcibly take off her helmet and
start caressing her without her permission. It appears that she is in the
process of being homosexual gang raped.

You can just imagine this scene in some women's prison or even some sororities
on some campuses with a new inductee. Anyone seen Reform School Girls with
Wendy O. Williams " ? USA Network used to show it regularly.

Boomer says: "I am not a Cylon". Right there, the obvious implication was that
she was about to say "I am not a Homosexual". She then says her parents are a
man and a woman: "My parents were Katherine and Abraham Valerii."

The Boomer-copies then feed her the normal Homosexual promotional crap that we
have heard here, over and over again, that deep inside, everyone is a
homosexual: "You can't fight destiny, Sharon. It catches up with you... no
matter what you do. Don't worry about us. We'll see you again. We love you,
Sharon. And we always will."

If you listen to these Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind BSG, everyone is
eventually going to engage in Homosexual Sex. So Why fight the feeling. Do it
now. Call of the wild, sort of thing.

As these lines were delivered over cable TV, you better believe that the
Hollywood Homosexual fatcats behind this series were jumping around slapping
high fives. I can just imagine a new Saturday Night Live Gays In Space episode
based on this content, except what SNL is doing does not appear to have been
approved by the Hollywood Homosexuals fatcats so they are being a little
careful about how close they mirror the show.

One of the problems with Hollywood Homosexual scenes like this being crowbar-ed
into the script is: Should we the viewers draw assumptions from this scene
about the direction of the overall story, or take it for what it is -- the
writers' penance to their Hollywood Homosexual masters for putting up the money
for the production. For example, some here have assumed that in this scene
Boomer is programmed, or re-programmed to assassinate William Adama, by this
contact with her Boomer-copy sisters. Some have even claimed that the taking
off of the helmet was significant in that it further exposed her brain to the
telepathic communications wavelengths being sent to her.

But how can we know for sure when this scene already serves a totally ulterior
motive of the writers and their Hollywood Homosexual fatcat masters.

==============================================================

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That is definitely are danger that the subliminal images within Sodomy infused TV series like
Battlestar Galactica can affect one's behavior, since a subliminal image which your conscious mind
does not recognize has a much more powerful effect on your subconscious than an advertisement
which explicitly seeks a specific behavior from you.

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Jim Phillips

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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:

> "FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:EzIQe.20889$PM3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01...
> >> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
> >>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
> >>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
> >> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
> >> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
> > This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
> > tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.
>
> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done
> with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.

So are we all "weaker minds" because none of us have your
"Sodomysight"? Does anyone else have your "Sodomysight"?

Jim Phillips

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These claims about subliminal messages have been demonstrated to
be false, yet you continue to make them. Shame on you for lying, John.

The Secretary of HomIntern

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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to The Easily Shocked Cherry:
> "FDR" wrote...
>> "John Shocked" wrote...
>>> "Numan" wrote...
>>>> "John Shocked" wrote...

>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>>>> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>> This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim
>> to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
>> tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch
>> them. It's that simple.
>
> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is
> being done with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.
<snip>

Hey, at least have the common decency to "properly" misidentify them!
They're BSG *Vancouver* Homosexuals.|-{P}

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FDR

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So it's obvious that BSG has made you gay.

>
> Politics
>
>


Jenn

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"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Boy, you aren't just whistling "Dixie" there John! It sure worked on
me. I watched just one episode of BSG and I'm gay gay gay. I'm so gay,
I'm beside myself. I am confused though: I've been in two
relationships in my adult life; one of 20 years and one of 9 years.
Does this mean that I'm not truly gay? All of my gay friends (who also
watched an episode of BSG, are also in very long term relationships. I
guess that they aren't really gay. Oh well.

Jenn

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Happens every time!

John Shocked

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> John Shocked wrote:
>> Sounds like Hollywood Homosexual public relations workers are making this allegation.
> Not the Hollywood Homosexual public relations workers, just me.

How would anyone tell the difference; your behavior is identical to a
Hollywood Homosexual public relations worker.
Calling Speakers "trolls" and trying desperately to divert attention away from what the
Speaker is stating is textbook HHPR behavior
To a weak mind watching such exchanges, you might be successful with these tactics.

>> Amazing how no one we ever run into in real life who does not spend their life
>> working on the Usenet, even knows what the term "troll" means.
> I don't spend my life working on Usenet, and in fact don't know anybody
> who does, but I know what the word means.
> Anyway, the reason why I think that you're someone having fun with this
> rather than a genuine crank is that you seem to watch the shows in
> absurd detail. Surely, a person who was actually offended by it all
> would be satisfied seeing a few episodes and then commenting on the
> supposed hidden agenda, whereas you obviously watch the show every week
> and even go so far as to explain subtle plot points. So when you
> demonstrate such careful knowledge of the show I think you tip your
> hand, so to speak. However, as I said in the above comment, as trolls
> go you're very good. Most trolls just type some offensive comment in a
> newsgroup and hardly anyone listens, whereas you have an interesting
> gimmick explaining all this and get a lot of people to respond. Heck,
> I'm responding now. There's a certain talent in that, I have to admit.

To assist weak minds in recognition of Hollywood Homosexual public relations work,
I will repost the text to which you are claiming to respond. Let us see your tactics in response.

===================================================================
"Troll" -- a term invented by public relations firms representing products
on the Usenet to describe uncontrolled, unpaid for speech, which does
not represent any organization other than the opinion of the Speaker.
This type of speech is the greatest danger to public relations firms
who cannot control (by banning the speaker and deleting their messages)
on the Usenet like they can do on their own web sites and blogs.

====================================================================


Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
has been destroyed.

Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.

In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.

Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire with Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by
a process of elimination to win Zerak's devotion. However, the Cylons believe strongly in procreation,
even in this case bestial procreation,
and thus it was hardly a difficult choice for her to choose to kill Meier instead.
Thus, the way is now clear for a monogamous Sodomy relationship between Apollo and Zerak.

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John Shocked

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===============================================================
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/MarrHoVsHet.htm

· A 2001 National Center for Health Statistics study on marriage and divorce statistics reported that 66 percent of first marriages
last ten years or longer, with fifty percent lasting twenty years or longer.[2]
===============================================================
The 2003-2004 Gay/Lesbian Consumer Online Census surveyed the lifestyles of 7,862 homosexuals. Of those involved in a "current
relationship," only 15 percent describe their current relationship as having lasted twelve years or longer, with five percent
lasting more than twenty years.[4] While this "snapshot in time" is not an absolute predictor of the length of homosexual
relationships, it does indicate that few homosexual relationships achieve the longevity common in marriages.
================================================================


================================================================
http://www.buddybuddy.com/cappio-1.html#foot-3

The ACLU has adopted the following position on the issue of same-sex marriage: "The ACLU supports legal recognition of lesbian and
gay relationships, including the right to marry. Such recognition is imperative for the complete legal equality of lesbian and gay
individuals." ACLU Policy No. 264, "ACLU Background Paper on Lesbian and Gay Marriage," March 1997, p. 3.
=================================================================

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John Shocked

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> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:z2JQe.146317$E95.23796@fed1read01...
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>>>>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>> This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
>>> tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.
>> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done with the science fiction genre by BSG
>> Hollywood Homosexuals.
>> People en masse need to recognize what is in this series and stop watching it.
>> There is some entertainment content in the series which makes my task a little easier.
> The only one seeing these "things" is you. Not one person here agrees with you.

Everyone here knows that what I have described about the Sodomy symbolism content
on BSG is accurate. Not a single point has been refuted.

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John Shocked

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>John Shocked wrote:
>> "FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:EzIQe.20889$PM3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01...
>>>>"Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>>>>>Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>>Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>>Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>>Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>>This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
>>>tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.
>> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done
>> with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.
>> People en masse need to recognize what is in this series and stop watching it.
>> There is some entertainment content in the series which makes my task a little easier.
>Sure you do. That has to be the only reason you would watch something that you claim is evil and disgusting.

I certainly have stated it is disgusting and deceitful.
If BSh Hollywood Homosexuals want to turn you and your kids into homosexuals and/or supporters
of the homosexual agenda, why do they not simply ask you directly ?

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Dennis Kemmerer

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I can't believe he's trying to use that LifeSiteFundieSpew opinon piece
again. That was ripped to shreds the day it was released.


John Shocked

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> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:
>> "FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:EzIQe.20889$PM3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01...
>> >> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>> >>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>> >>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>> >>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>> >> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>> >> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>> > This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on,
>> >you still manage to tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.
>> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done
>> with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.
> So are we all "weaker minds" because none of us have your "Sodomysight"? Does anyone else have your "Sodomysight"?

Most people here recognize the Sodomy symbolisms after I point them out.
The danger to society in general is that most people do not recognize these Sodomy symbolisms and thus
are being impacted subliminally and subconsciously, without their will or permission, to support Sodomy.

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FDR

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"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> <zaryza...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1125364334.8...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> John Shocked wrote:
>>> Sounds like Hollywood Homosexual public relations workers are making
>>> this allegation.
>> Not the Hollywood Homosexual public relations workers, just me.
>
> How would anyone tell the difference; your behavior is identical to a
> Hollywood Homosexual public relations worker.

Yeah, and your behavior is identical to that of a troll.


John Shocked

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>I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
> Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to The Easily Shocked Cherry:
>> "FDR" wrote...
>>> "John Shocked" wrote...
>>>> "Numan" wrote...
>>>>> "John Shocked" wrote...
>>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>>>>> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>> This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim
>>> to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
>>> tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch
>>> them. It's that simple.
>> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is
>> being done with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.
> <snip>
> Hey, at least have the common decency to "properly" misidentify them!
> They're BSG *Vancouver* Homosexuals.|-{P}

No, they are Hollywood Homosexuals who have exported US jobs from US blacks and US unions to
foreign countries like Canada and Australia/New Zealand because they are Neo-Conservatives who
Hate the Left (The Poor, Blacks, Unions, Women) and want to cheat the Left out of jobs.
And if you are a woman, you better be willing to appear on screen with no clothes on (nude)
and play prostitutes, if you want to work.

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FDR

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Actually, they all have pointed out your wrong. No one here sees anything
about sodomy but you.

John Shocked

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I have proven the claims about subliminal messages here several times.

===============================================================
http://www.answers.com/topic/subliminal-message

Subliminal Message

A subliminal message is a signal or message designed to pass below (sub) the normal limits of perception.
For example it might be inaudible to the conscious mind (but audible to the unconscious or deeper mind) or
might be an image transmitted briefly and unperceived consciously and yet perceived unconsciously. This
definition assumes a division between conscious and unconscious which may be misleading; it may be better
to say that the subliminal message (sound or image) is perceived by deeper parts of what is a single
integrated mind.

In the everyday world, many have claimed that subliminal techniques are used in advertising and for
propaganda purposes but officially it is denied. In Russia, however, there have been reports of subliminal
messages. For example, Pravda has had stories about the discovery of subliminal messages in advertising
from the West.

Origin of the Term

The term subliminal message was popularized in a 1957 book entitled The Hidden Persuaders by Vance
Packard. This book detailed a study of movie theaters that supposedly used subliminal commands to increase
the sales of popcorn and Coca-Cola at their concession stands. However, James Vicary (the author of the
study) later admitted the study was fabricated.

In 1973 Wilson Bryan Key's book Subliminal Seduction claimed that subliminal techniques were in wide use
in advertising. The book contributed to a general climate of fear with regard to Orwellian dangers (of
subliminal messaging). Public concern was enough to lead the Federal Communications Commission to hold
hearings and to declare subliminal advertising "contrary to the public interest" because it involved
"intentional deception" of the public.

Validity

In spite of the popular belief that subliminal messages are widely used to influence audiences, there is
little evidence that the technique has ever been used on a mass audience (other than its occasional use by
artists who use it to make an artistic statement). There is no evidence that subliminal messages have any
effect at all on a viewer or listener, and the current consensus among marketing professionals is that
subliminal advertising is ineffective and can be counter-productive. The theory underlying subliminal
messages is often considered to be pseudoscience. However, the concept of subliminal messages is very
popular among conspiracy theorists, and most people in media-saturated areas (such as the United States)
are familiar with the term.

A number of fringe elements in society have made occasional claims that subliminal messages can be found
in various forms of popular entertainment. Popular claims of subliminal commands include the supposed use
of "backward messages" in rock and roll songs. Conservative activist Donald Wildmon has claimed that The
Walt Disney Company inserted the subliminal command "SEX" into the animated film The Lion King (see that
article for more information on this). Mainstream authorities have generally ignored these claims due to
the dubious reputations of their authors.

Discussion

Subliminal perception or cognition, if it exists, can be considered a subset of unconscious cognition
where the forms of unconscious cognition also include attending to one signal in a noisy environment while
unconsciously keeping track of other signals (e.g. one voice out of many in a crowded room) and tasks done
automatically (e.g. driving a car).

An important question about subliminal perception is: How much of the unattended or unconscious signal or
message is perceived? That is, is the whole message sensed and fully digested or perhaps only its main and
simpler features? There are at least two schools of thought about this. One of them argues that only the
simpler features of unconscious signals could be perceived. The second school of thought argues that
unconscious cognition is comprehensive and that much more is perceived than can be verbalized.

Various types of studies of subliminal perception have been conducted. A related field is the question of
whether anaesthetized patients are completely unaware whilst apparently completely asleep/unconscious.

Proponents of the power of subliminal messages claim they gain influence or power from the fact that they
circumvent the critical functions of the conscious mind, and therefore subliminal suggestions are
potentially more powerful than ordinary suggestions. This route to influence or persuasion would be akin
to auto-suggestion or hypnosis wherein the subject is encouraged to be (or somehow induced to be) relaxed
so that suggestions are directed to deeper (more gullible) parts of the mind; some observers have argued
that the unconscious mind is incapable of critical refusal of hypnotic or subliminal suggestions.

However, research findings do not support the conclusion that subliminal suggestions are peculiarly
powerful, or even have any effect at all.

Subliminal Messages in Advertising

A form of subliminal messaging commonly believed to exist involves the insertion of "hidden" messages into
movies and TV programs. The concept of "moving pictures" relies on persistence of vision to create the
illusion of movement in a series of images projected at 23 to 50 frames per second; the popular theory of
subliminal messages usually suggests that subliminal commands can be inserted into this sequence at the
rate of perhaps 1 frame in 25 (or roughly 1 frame per second, with a duration of about 1/25 of 1 second).
The hidden command in a single frame will flash across the screen so quickly that it is not consciously
perceived, but the command will supposedly appeal to the subconscious mind of the viewer, and thus have
some measurable effect in terms of behavior.

Another "subliminal" message technique is supposedly to embed into a printed advertisement certain
messages or symbols which are subtle and perceived only by the unconscious mind, either to communicate a
message or to increase the attention paid to the printed ad. This technique, as with subliminal TV
advertising, is not generally regarded as effective.

As to the question of whether subliminal messages are widely used to influence groups of people e.g.
audiences, there is no evidence to suggest that any serious or sustained attempt has been made to use the
technology on a mass audience. The widespread reports that arose in 1957 to the effect that customers in a
movie theatre in New Jersey had been induced by subliminal messages to consume more popcorn and more Coca-
Cola were almost certainly false. The current consensus among marketing professionals is that subliminal
advertising is counter-productive. To some this is because they believe it to be ineffective, but to most
it is because they realise it would be a public relations disaster if its use were discovered. Many have
misgivings about using it in marketing campaigns due to ethical considerations.

During the 2000 U.S. presidential campaign, a television ad campaigning for Republican candidate George W.
Bush showed words (and parts thereof) scaling from the foreground to the background on a television
screen. When the word BUREAUCRATS flashed on the screen, one frame showed only the last part, RATS.
Democrats promptly asked the FCC to look into the matter, but no penalties were ever assessed in the case.
The effect this had on the overall presidential race was unclear; the Democrats and Al Gore received
ridicule for finding malicious intent in something that could have been a simple mistake; the Republicans
received ridicule for the lack of attention to detail and Bush's mispronunciation of "subliminal" (it came
out as "subliminable"). (It bears mentioning that the "subliminal message" is easily viewable when the ad
is played at regular speed. If the message were truly subliminal, that would not be the case.)

The most common ways of making one of these messages are playing a string of images each lasting 1/3000th
of a second, words scrolling across a screen just fast enough so the viewer can only pick out one at a
time, and using pictures to provoke the primal instincts in the viewer. Primal instincts are those
instincts that command killing or sexually reproducing. The 4 most used words to invoke these instincts
are: SEX, F***, KILL, and DIE.

Works cited: www.ebaumsworld.com "urban legends". found in the animation section.

See also advertising marketing promotion backmasking

Quotations

"Over the years there have been literally hundreds of studies"..."these studies show that considerable
information capable of informing decisions and guiding actions is perceived even when observers do not
experience any awareness of perceiving". Philip Merikle, Department of Psychology, University of Waterloo.

===================================================================

Selling Hate for Arabs/Moslems in Hollywood Movies is nothing new in Hollywood. Books listed on Amazon
which describe this crap coming out of Hollywood are: "Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People"
and "Silent No More: Confronting America's False Images of Islam".

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>>>> >> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> >> >> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>>> >> >> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>> >> > Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>> >> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>> >> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>>> > I admit it; I'm gay because I once watched BSG. I feel better now.
>>>> Come out, come out, wherever you are. And leave the Science Fiction TV genre alone.
>>> I'll try, but the shows made me so gay that it's difficult to not watch now.
>> That is definitely [a] danger that the subliminal images within Sodomy infused TV series like Battlestar Galactica can affect
>> one's behavior, since a subliminal image which your conscious mind does not recognize has a much more powerful effect on your
>> subconscious than an advertisement which explicitly seeks a specific behavior from you.
>> Politics

> So it's obvious that BSG has made you gay.

========================================================


Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
has been destroyed.

Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.

In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.

Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by


a process of elimination to win Zerak's devotion. However, the Cylons believe strongly in procreation,
even in this case bestial procreation,
and thus it was hardly a difficult choice for her to choose to kill Meier instead.
Thus, the way is now clear for a monogamous Sodomy relationship between Apollo and Zerak.

============================================================
Heck, I thought this was a science fiction series.


Also, I have yet to understand the true meaning of this strange morph of the well known phrase
which Zerak utters to Meier when Meier continues to court him earlier:
"Getting blood on your hands is a lot harder than washing it off."

As has been discussed here, Sodomy is a major source of disease because it is unnatural
activity of a hard object in the anal tract which causes cuts and blood to flow and
exchange bacteria and viruses with the semen deposited.
And while the blood and faecal excrement can be washed away, the bacteria and virus
borne diseases remain, often permanently, often fatally.

=============================================================

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Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
has been destroyed.

John Shocked

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There it is. Simple for anyone to recognize.
Here is some more good information to which you may respond.

========================================================
Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier
has been destroyed.
Clearly the Meier character played by James Remar (Ganz from 48 Hours) was determined to engage in a
monogamous Sodomy relationship with Zerak, but Zerak was clearly drawn to Apollo's he-man leadership qualities.

In the final meeting after Zerak and Meier committed their final homosexual act, with their procreative organs
still exposed, where Meier begs Zerak to pick him as his monogamous Sodomy mate and to help him kill Apollo,
Zerak takes one last look down at Meier's exposed procreative organ and refuses, thereby choosing Apollo over Meier.

Meier, his lust for Zerak spurned, then attempts to conspire Cylon Boomer to kill Apollo, hoping by


a process of elimination to win Zerak's devotion. However, the Cylons believe strongly in procreation,
even in this case bestial procreation,
and thus it was hardly a difficult choice for her to choose to kill Meier instead.
Thus, the way is now clear for a monogamous Sodomy relationship between Apollo and Zerak.

============================================================

FDR

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John, how long between the time you started watching BSG and when you turned
gay?

John Shocked

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>>> Monday July 14, 2003
>>> Homosexual Unions Last Only 1.5 Years, Says New Study AMSTERDAM, July 14, 2003
>>> (LifeSiteNews.com) - As Canada and several U.S. states move toward the legalization of so-called homosexual "marriage," a new
>>> study has found that homosexual partnerships last, on average, only one-and-a-half years.
>> And how long do heterosexual "partnerships" last? Not heterosexual
>> MARRIAGES, since the gays studied weren't married - their partnerships
>> would cover both short-term and long-term relationships, and you have
>> to compare that to the same thing for straights.
>> Most of the straights I know date; break up; date some more; maybe live
>> together for a while; break up; date; maybe get married; maybe get
>> divorced; date some more; marry again.
>> Can you tell me how long the average heterosexual relationship lasts?
> I can't believe he's trying to use that LifeSiteFundieSpew opinon piece again. That was ripped to shreds the day it was released.

The Amsterdam study has not been challenged by any reasoned attempt at refutation.

BYTE ME!

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http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsUS.shtml

Likelihood of new marriages ending in divorce in 1997: 43%

Percentage of all householders who are unmarried in 2000: 48%

Percentage of weddings which are remarriages for at least one partner in
1997: 43%

Percentage of first marriages that end in divorce in 1997: 50%

Percentage of remarriages that end in divorce in 1997: 60%

Number of married couples (2000): 56,497,000

Percentage of people that married under the age of 20 who eventually get
divorced as of 1995: 40%

Percentage of people that married over the age of 25 who eventually get
divorced as of 1995: 24%

Children under 18 years of age living with just one parent in 1998:
20 million (28%)
--
Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or
hereafter. –Thomas Paine

John Shocked

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Clearly, heterosexuals are 10 times as likely, 50% to 5% , to make a lifetime partner choice
of 20 years or more. It is ludicrous to even compare the two.
And this does not even deal with the homosexual average of 8 homosex partners per year external
to the main relationship they are in. Incredible homosexual stamina.

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Jenn

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DAMN! I was looking for to becoming more gay.

FDR

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John was looking forward to masturbating to the sodomy sex scenes.


FDR

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How many homosexual partners do you have per year? Was your partner
dissapointed there was no three way sodomy scene too?


>
> Politics
>
>


Jenn

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Could be. I just don't know what I'm going to do. Sell my Birkenstock
shares?

John Shocked

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>>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>> How will you be able to masturbate now?
>>>> Heck, I thought this was a science fiction series.

>>>> As has been discussed here, Sodomy is a major source of disease because it is unnatural activity of a hard object in the anal
>>>> tract which causes cuts and blood to flow and exchange bacteria and viruses with the semen deposited.
>>>> And while the blood and faecal excrement can be washed away, the bacteria and virus borne diseases remain, often permanently,
>>>> often fatally.
>>>> Politics
>>> Well, I see the light. John doesn't practice sodomy. Sodomy doesn't just
>>> include anal sex. It also includes oral. This means Johan has never had head.
>>> No wonder he acts the way he does. I'd be a know-it-all prick too if I never got any hummers.
>> If you do engage in that behavior, by all means use a Dental Dam.
>> Here is more information on the subject:
> Funny how you would know about them.

Read the text here and you will learn too. 'ol Patrick was determined to educate the public about Sodomy
and the transmission of disease, and the Sodomy direction in which Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,
which destroyed the ratings of the whole Star Trek series of series.

Politics

============================================================
>> =========================================================
>> In these 1994 Saturday Night Live skits, Patrick Stewart of Star Trek: The Next Generation,
>> to his credit, says: "say No to anal sex !".
>> As such, Stewart, who I am sure contributed to both of these 1994 Saturday Night Live
>> scripts, clearly wanted to denounce the direction the Star Trek franchise took at that time
>> when it was taken over by Hollywood Homosexuals, after the Oct 24 1991
>> death of Gene Roddenberry and the takeover of the Star Trek enterprise by Rick Berman.
>>
>> Episodes like ST:TNG The Outcast in 1992 and the whole script of the new series
>> Star Trek Deep Space Nine (1993-1999) with the androgynous Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell)
>> character were designed primarily to sell Sodomy to you and your kids in this new Berman era.
>>
>> Politics
>> ===============================================
>> [Transcripts of 2 Saturday Night Live skits excerpted from the
>> February 5, 1994 Patrick Stewart appearance from closed captions]
>> ===============================================
>>>>> Hi! Welcome to Sexy Cakes, the erotic bakery.
>>>> I've walked by this place. I never thought I'd go inside it.
>>>> Well, I think you'll find that it's a little more fun than an ordinary bakery.
>>>> Yeah, my friend's havin' a bachelor party, and I thought it might be kind of fun if I got him an erotic cake.
>>>> Well, you have come to the right place.
>> I have the perfect sexy cake for a bachelor party.
>> Oh, oh -- what about this one?
>> What do you think?
>>>> Looks like a woman goin' to the bathroom.
>> [ Light laughter ]
>>>> Yeah, it's very sexy.
>> [ Laughter ]
>>>> What else do you have?
>>>> Ooh, I understand. It's not, perhaps, your cup of tea.
>> Perhaps -- maybe this sexy cake might be more up your alley.
>>>> This is the exact same cake.
>>>> No, no, no. This is chocolate.
>> [ Laughter ]
>>>> Yeah, but it's still a woman goin' to the bathroom.
>>>> Exactly.
>> Oh, could you excuse me for a moment?
>>>>Hi.
>> Hi, we're here to pick up our cake.
>>>> Yes, the man-on-man lemon meringue.
>> [ Laughter ]
>>>> Right.
>> I took a little artistic license with this one, but, well,
>> I think you'll enjoy the results.
>>>> Hey, this is a woman going to the bathroom.
>> [ Laughter ]
>>>> Yeah, it's very exciting, isn't it?
>> That'll be $15.
>>>> We wanted a cake of two guys having sex.
>>>> Yeah, I know.
>> Well, I guess you can say I sexied it up for you. No extra charge.
>>>> Party's tonight. We'll take it.
>>>> Thank you.
>> Oh, you'll have to excuse me. It has been like this all day.
>>>> What other types of cakes do you have?
>>>> Well, why don't we take a look at our catalog?
>> Now, you see, this shows every sexy, titillating cake we offer.
>> Oh, now, here's a woman squatting behind some bushes.
>> [ Laughter ]
>> Look, the leaves are made of spun sugar.
>> And -- oh.
>> Here's a lady using a little marzipan port-a-potty.
>>>> So all your cakes are women going to the bathroom?
>>>> Yeah.
>> [ Laughter ]
>> What's your point?
>>>> Well, don't you have anything else?
>>>> Look, maybe you don't understand. This is an erotic bakery.
>>>> I'm sorry.
>> I just don't find this very erotic.
>>>> A woman going to the bathroom?
>> You don't find it erotic?
>>>> No, not really.
>>>> Well, then what, pray tell, would you suggest we do put on our erotic cakes?
>> [ Light laughter ]
>>>> I don't know --people having sex?
>> Female and male genitalia. You know, somethin' like that.
>>>> Well, if that's what you're after, I suggest you try Hostess or Sara Lee.
>> [ Laughter ]
>>>> Can't you just make a cake with a couple on it having sex?
>>>> All right, look, I'll tell you what I will do.
>> I will make a cake with a woman and a man going to the bathroom.
>> [ Light laughter ]
>> And then, that way, you'll be happy, and your friends will be happy.
>>>> I don't think my friends would like that, either.
>>>> Well, I would certainly like to meet these friends of yours sometime!
>> [ Light laughter ]
>>>> Look, could we just have a cake with just sex and no going to the bathroom?
>>>> May I remind you that you are going to have to eat this cake?
>> [ Light laughter ]
>>>> I'll tell you what --just give me a regular cake with nothing on it.
>>>> I'm sorry. I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
>>>> Why?!
>>>> This is some kind of joke, isn't it? Who put you up to this, a fraternity?
>> You get out! Go on. Get out of here, young man!
>>>> Hi. It's my fiancé's birthday. Can I get a cake shaped like a woman going to the bathroom?
>>>> Absolutely.
>> [ Cheers and applause ]
>>
>> ===========================================
>>
>> [ Cheers and applause ]
>> [ Nickelodeon theme plays ]
>> You show me and I'll show you Dr. Elders will show us, too 'cause you're never
>> too young and you're never too small to know the difference between a penis and a ball
>> yay
>>>> Nickelodeon presents --
>> "show and tell," with Surgeon General Dr. Joycelyn elders.
>>>> Good morning, boys and girls. And welcome to "Show and Tell."
>> You know, learning safe sex is as easy as a-b-C.
>> Did somebody say "a-b-c"?
>> "A" is for "abstinence."
>> Which -- I have to be honest with you -- is a Reagan-era fantasy.
>> [ Light laughter ]
>> Children are going to have sex. It's as easy as that.
>> Okay?
>> "B" is for "bastard."
>> That's a technical word for the product of an out-of-wedlock pregnancy.
>> Now, do we have any bastards here today?
>> [ Laughter ]
>> Come on, Tony. You're a bastard. Raise your hand.
>> [ Laughter ]
>> There's no shame in that. Good, Tony.
>> You know, Jesse Jackson is a bastard. As are all of Goldie Hawn's children.
>> [ Laughter ]
>> Can you say "Jesse Jackson" and "Goldie Hawn"?
>>>> All: Jesse Jackson and Goldie Hawn.
>>>> Good!
>> Now, what we are tryin' to do is to make fewer bastards, which brings us to "C."
>> Now, what is "c" for, children?
>>>> All: "Condoms"!
>>>> That's right.
>> Very good.
>> We learn that every week.
>> Can't hit the condoms too hard.
>> Condom, condom, condom!
>> [ Laughter ]
>> Well, boys and girls, I think "a" through "c" is good for today.
>> Tomorrow, we'll study "d" through "G."
>> That's "dental dam" through "gonorrhea."
>> [ Bell rings ]
>> Oh, goody, goody, goody!
>> It's time for our special guest. And he's come all the way
>> from the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta.
>> Boys and girls, let's give a warm "Show and Tell" welcome to Dr. Ian Menchenson.
>> [ Cheers and applause ]
>> Welcome, Dr. Menchenson.
>>>> Thank you, General Elders. It's a great pleasure to be here.
>> We, at the Center for Disease Control, agree that kids are
>> never too young to hear frank and open discussion of sexuality and health issues.
>> And that's why we are terribly excited about our new program,
>> which is called "Project Just Say No To Anal Intercourse."
>> [ Laughter ]
>>>> Now, what do you have to show the children?
>>>> Well -- this is what we at "Project Just Say No To Anal Intercourse" call the visible rectum.
>> [ Laughter ]
>> Now, this --this -- it's a learning tool.
>> And we have developed it especially for children aged 6 to 8.
>>>> Uh-huh, and how does it work?
>>>> How does it work?
>> Well, basically, we think it's absolutely vital for children to know that,
>> during anal intercourse, the tearing and ripping of the anal membrane can expose the
>> receptor's bloodstream to a large dose of HIV-laden ejaculate --
>>>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
>>>> I'm sorry?
>>>> No, doctor.
>> I think you're frightenin' the children.
>>>> Good.
>> Good!
>> That's just what we're trying to do at "Project Just Say No to Anal Intercourse."
>> You see, we want to discourage anal intercourse among children, and by alerting them to the dangers --
>>>> No, no, no, doctor!
>> I think maybe the visible rectum is a bad idea.
>>>> Oh. I have drawings.
>>>> No, no, no.
>> I'm afraid that we've run out
>> of time.
>> Kids, let's thank Dr. Menchenson.
>> [ Applause ]
>> Well, that's all the time we have for today. But before we go, I should
>> announce that this was our last show for nickelodeon.
>> Evidently, we've been gettin' a lot of negative mail from some very narrow-minded people.
>> But that's okay.
>> We're movin' to PBS on weekdays, following "Daddy's Got A Boyfriend."
>> [ Laughter ]
>> And remember, boys and girls, if you're gonna have anal-oral
>> contact and you're not sure of your partner's history --
>>>> All: Use a dental dam.
>>>> Bye-bye, now.
>> Bye-bye.
>> [ Applause ]
>> ==================================


John Shocked

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>>>>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01...
>>>>>> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>>>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
>>>>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>>>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>>>> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>>>> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>>>> This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage
>>>>> to tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.
>>>> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done with the science fiction genre by BSG
>>>> Hollywood Homosexuals.
>>>> People en masse need to recognize what is in this series and stop watching it.
>>>> There is some entertainment content in the series which makes my task a little easier.
>>>> Politics

>>> The only one seeing these "things" is you. Not one person here agrees with you.
>> Everyone here knows that what I have described about the Sodomy symbolism content
>> on BSG is accurate. Not a single point has been refuted.
>> Politics

> Actually, they all have pointed out your wrong. No one here sees anything about sodomy but you.

Where have any of my points been refuted ? Everyone here knows that Sodomy symbolism is clearly in the BSG series.
They have mainly resigned themselves to insults, threats and other attempts at intimidation.
Desperate attempts to prevents the Speech, rather than trying to win the points.

John Shocked

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"Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:jennconducts-34E9...@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...

If you become homosexual enough, you will be guaranteed to find a job working in Hollywood.
An even better and higher paying job than working public relations for Hollywood Homosexuals
on this Newsgroup.

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Jenn

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In article <Zq3Re.150724$E95.18345@fed1read01>,
"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Cool! Conducting John Williams scores would be a great gig. Or the LA
Philharmonic!

> An even better and higher paying job than working public relations for
> Hollywood Homosexuals
> on this Newsgroup.

This gig pays? Right on! This must be the origin of the those "Earn $$
From Your Home" ads from the Hollywood magazines.

maf1029 (©2001-2008)

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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:30:53 -0700, FRED CHERRY, posing as "John
Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Where have any of my points been refuted ?

In every response you've received, FRED.


>Everyone here knows that Sodomy symbolism is clearly in the BSG series.

Except that there is none.
Oh, wait -- maybe the arrow of APOLLO opening the tomb of ATHENA means
that YOU are a cocksucking, butffucking, ass-licking, ball-nursing
homosexual, FRED.
Everyone who watches BSG knows that it's symbolic of your fantasy
sex-life.



maf1029 (©2001-2008)

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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:36:06 -0700, FRED CHERRY, posing as "John
Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>If you become homosexual enough, you will be guaranteed to find a job working in Hollywood.

You sound jealous, FRED.

FDR

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"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Zq3Re.150724$E95.18345@fed1read01...

Which newsgroup would that be? There's seven of them.

>
> Politics
>
>


BYTE ME!

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So you are promoting sodomy now?

BYTE ME!

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Where is your evidence of any of the crap you state in the above
paragraph? Come on, I am sure you can pull it out of your ass long
enough to share it.

John Shocked

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"Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:jennconducts-4DE0...@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...

> In article <Zq3Re.150724$E95.18345@fed1read01>,
> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:jennconducts-34E9...@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
>> > In article <%10Re.150693$E95.139523@fed1read01>,
>> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:jennconducts-D1D8...@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
>> >> > In article <i3VQe.150660$E95.90473@fed1read01>,
>> >> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:jennconducts-62AD...@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com...
>> >> >> > In article <htPQe.150610$E95.84639@fed1read01>,
>> >> >> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Jenn" <jennco...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:jennconducts-9CF2...@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com.

You are alleging that classical music conductors are disproportionately homosexual ?
Never heard that.

>> An even better and higher paying job than working public relations for
>> Hollywood Homosexuals on this Newsgroup.
> This gig pays? Right on! This must be the origin of the those "Earn $$
> From Your Home" ads from the Hollywood magazines.

I am sure it can pay. Those who are here working hard to support BSG and its Sodomy symbolism
and who are not being paid, are the true chumps here.

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ToolPackinMama

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John Shocked wrote:
>
> I am sure it can pay. Those who are here working hard to support BSG and its Sodomy symbolism
> and who are not being paid, are the true chumps here.

Don't you believe in a labor of love? :)

BTW, John, how much money do you make doing... uh, whatever it is that
you think you are doing?

Jim Phillips

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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:

> "Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050830074247.9794U-100000@mail...


> > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, John Shocked wrote:
> >> "FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:EzIQe.20889$PM3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...

> >> > "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:wdHQe.144177$E95.54571@fed1read01...


> >> >> "Numan" <tbrd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:9mGQe.17$lU...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
> >> >>> "John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e9fQe.132940$E95.83631@fed1read01...
> >> >>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
> >> >>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
> >> >> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
> >> >> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.

> >> > This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on,


> >> >you still manage to tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't watch them. It's that simple.
> >> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what is being done
> >> with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood Homosexuals.

> > So are we all "weaker minds" because none of us have your "Sodomysight"? Does anyone else have your "Sodomysight"?
>
> Most people here recognize the Sodomy symbolisms after I point them out.

Name 3 of them. I haven't seen *anyone* who agrees with your
sodomy claims about BSG.

> The danger to society in general is that most people do not recognize these Sodomy symbolisms and thus
> are being impacted subliminally and subconsciously, without their will or permission, to support Sodomy.

Once again, subliminal messages have been demonstrated to be
ineffective. Please stop lying and claiming that they are--all this
lying can't be good for you, John.

--
Jim Phillips, jay pee aitch eye el el eye pee at bee see pee ell dot net
"I would bring up Ann Coulter's comment about blowing up the New York
Times...there's a lot of hateful, violent rhetoric that spews from the
Right. The Left is snide and sarcastic, the Right is dangerous and
violent." -- Dan Savage

Jim Phillips

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Liar! The URL below you post as evidence of the effectiveness
of subliminal messages says the exact opposite:

> ===============================================================
> http://www.answers.com/topic/subliminal-message

snip

> Validity
>
> In spite of the popular belief that subliminal messages are widely used to influence audiences, there is
> little evidence that the technique has ever been used on a mass audience (other than its occasional use by
> artists who use it to make an artistic statement). There is no evidence that subliminal messages have any
> effect at all on a viewer or listener, and the current consensus among marketing professionals is that
> subliminal advertising is ineffective and can be counter-productive. The theory underlying subliminal
> messages is often considered to be pseudoscience. However, the concept of subliminal messages is very
> popular among conspiracy theorists, and most people in media-saturated areas (such as the United States)
> are familiar with the term.

I do so enjoy it when idiots like John Shocked post evidence
*against* their kooky beliefs!

Jim Phillips

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Who should I send my timecard to, John?

The Secretary of HomIntern

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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to The Easily Shocked Cherry:
> "The Secretary of HomIntern" wrote...
>>I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
>> Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to The Easily Shocked Cherry:
>>> "FDR" wrote...
>>>> "John Shocked" wrote...
>>>>> "Numan" wrote...
>>>>>> "John Shocked" wrote...

>>>>>>> Well it looks like the possible on screen three way Sodomy between
>>>>>>> Apollo, Zerak and Meier has been destroyed.
>>>>>> Now don't you better now? Has your cloudy day been cleared?
>>>>> Heck, I thought this was going to be a legit science fiction series.
>>>>> Not some sick Sodomy show selling Sodomy to you and your kids.
>>>> This is why you are either a troll or a nut becuase as much as you
>>>> claim to hate the "sodomy" that goes on, you still manage to
>>>> tune in everyweek. I don't like Fox news, and guess what? I don't
>>>> watch
>>>> them. It's that simple.
>>> I watch mainly to critique the show and point out to weaker minds what
>>> is being done with the science fiction genre by BSG Hollywood
>>> Homosexuals.
>> <snip>
>> Hey, at least have the common decency to "properly" misidentify them!
>> They're BSG *Vancouver* Homosexuals.|-{P}
>
> No, they are Hollywood Homosexuals who have exported US jobs from US
> blacks and US unions to foreign countries like Canada and Australia/New
> Zealand because they are Neo-Conservatives who Hate the Left (The Poor,
> Blacks, Unions, Women) and want to cheat the Left out of jobs.

Uh-huh. In that case, you may kindly go fuck yourself with the Washington
Monument. You and your country can go to Thud for all it means to me, and
if your economy tanks, too fucking bad. Life sucks, doesn't it? Those "US
jobs" you're whining about are helping the Canadian economy *ENORMOUSLY*,
and I see no reason why they should have to head back down south just
because you and Arnold Schwarzenegger think they should.

> And if you are a woman, you better be willing to appear on screen with no
> clothes on (nude) and play prostitutes, if you want to work.

So? That's Hollywood. Or, as the case may be, Hollywood *North*.

--
___________________________________________________________________________
Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant Cock-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."

John Shocked

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"ToolPackinMama" <la...@lauragoodwin.org> wrote in message news:11haua0...@news.supernews.com...

Nothing. My speech cannot be bought.

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John Shocked

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"maf1029 (©2001-2008)" <saxo...@saxophone.whereforartthousaxophone> wrote in message
news:87h9h1lr569t132jv...@4ax.com...

This is according to the Hollywood Homosexual Sodomy Rite Of Passage which I posted already.

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John Shocked

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"FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Q%6Re.22253$PM3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Politics

> Which newsgroup would that be? There's seven of them.

Mainly the Battlestar Galactica newsgroup, but the statement could apply to any other Newsgroup
which was carefully selected for these posts.

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John Shocked

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>"BYTE ME!" <donot...@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:p37Re.15245$AT6....@fe06.news.easynews.com...

Explain this logic.

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John Shocked

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"Jim Phillips" <jphi...@bcpl.net> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.3.96.1050831074827.29836E-100000@mail...

Hollywood Homosexuals Inc, Sodomy On TV Promotion Division, Hollywood, CA

=================================================
Again, the symbolism in the BSG Sodomy scenes in Bastille Day and Colonial Day has only predated
by the Oz HBO prison Sodomy rape scenes.
This Sodomy symbolism was the clear intent of the BSG Hollywood Homosexuals, who are
determined to sell Sodomy to you and your kids.


=================================================
The customer sees it as is the case with all subliminal visual stimuli, but
does not notice the product specifically as being specifically presented
as an advertisement. It is just present in the picture.
The full quote from the document transcribed:

================================================
http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=rnw85d00&fmt=gif&ref=results&title=ACTIVITY%20REPORT.&bates=503579378/9381
"August 26, 1981
CONFIDENTIAL
-------------------
To: Laurence M.Wassong [vice-president William Esty Company
in New York, publicity man of R.J. Reynolds,
concerning promotion activities
From: Warren Cowan [of Rogers and Cowan public relations firm]
Re: Activity Report

"We have been waiting for production to resume full-speed
ahead in Hollywood for more than a year, and, now, with
the writers, actors and directors all working and not threaten-
ing to strike, we are pleased to report that Hollywood is back
in the movie business.

With that in mind, we are making a concentrated effort to be
very selective about the kinds of productions in which we place
the products. Our goal is "pleasant situations,"and we have
evaluated many scripts which do not meet our criteria for products.
There are some films we have approached which we believe could
be very beneficial to our "subliminal" product campaign.

I. MOTION PICTURES
--------------------------

A) Sharkey's Machine -- Burt Reynolds stars in this Orion Pictures
contemporary action drama. As you can see by the attached stills from
the film (attachments 1-3), we arranged for Burt Reynolds to enjoy Camels
throughout the film. Sharkey's Machine will be distributed by
Warner Brothers on December 18."
[...numerous other movies' product placements...] "

[later in same Activity Report...]

"We are also continuing our contacts with top photographers and
providing them with product, so that when the proper situation
arises, our product can be included in photo sessions.

There are many other areas that we are exploring, as well. Due
to the necessity of confidentiality of this project, we are doing
this very quietly, on a one-on-one basis. "
=================================================


Here is some more information on the types of psychologists who work
at advertising companies like William Esty Agency, and their interest in
controlling the future behavior of your kids.

http://fates.cns.muskingum.edu/~psych/psycweb/history/watson.htm
====================================================
[John B. Watson (1878 - 1958)]
After leaving Johns Hopkins University, Watson went into the advertising business
. He wanted to use his scientific theories of behaviorism and the emotions
of fear, rage, and love to improve the effects of advertising on the "animal"
or what we know as consumers. Watson began his training at
J Walter Thompson Agency with Stanley B. Resor. He became an ambassador
and in 1924 he stepped up to become vice president of the company.
While he was there he also wrote and sold books about the control over
human emotions. Later he moved onto work for William Esty Agency
until he retired in 1945. In 1920 he published his most famous conditioning
experiment; the "Little Albert" study in which he produced, in a small child,
conditioned fear of a white rat by repeatedly presenting it paired with the
loud "clanging" of a metal bar. This conditioned fear was then shown to generalize
to other white furry objects, including a Santa mask and Watson's own white hair
(Watson & Rayner, 1920). In another well-known article (Watson, 1920),
he argued that thinking -- a mental activity that seems to involve no overt behavior
-- is nothing more than subvocal speaking. He later retracted this extreme view,
however (Watson & McDougall, 1929).
Although Watson's academic star burned brightly, it was destined to be short-lived.
Like his predecessor, Baldwin, he was forced to resign his chair at Hopkins
because of a sex scandal involving his assistant, Rayner. He continued to publish
books on psychology--Behaviorism (1924) and The Psychological Care of
Infant and Child (1928)--but by the 1930s his main career interest had shifted
to the advertising business, and he ended his scholarly pursuits.
=====================================================


Cigarette companies have by far the biggest advertising budgets and thus can afford to hire the best
psychologists to sell Cigarettes to you and your kids.

===============================================
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/articles/20785-6.asp

Although cigarette commercials have been banned from television for 30 years,
the tobacco industry remains the country's largest advertiser.
According to the American Lung Association, the tobacco industry spent
an estimated $5.7 billion on advertising in 1997, up 10.8% or $552 million
from 1996. In 1982, when cigarette sales peaked, the industry spent an
estimated $1.8 billion for advertising. Cigarette sales dropped from
632.5 billion in 1982 to 478.6 billion in 1997. Tobacco company ads
are everywhere
===============================================

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Jenn

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In article <BdeRe.150782$E95.73988@fed1read01>,
"John Shocked" <jsho...@hotmail.com> wrote:

No, I didn't say that; you said that I could work in Hollywood. The
gigs I listed are in Hollywood. That said, the answer to your question
is probably yes for the guys, for sure yes for the women.

>
> >> An even better and higher paying job than working public relations for
> >> Hollywood Homosexuals on this Newsgroup.

> > This gig pays? Right on! This must be the origin of the those "Earn $$
> > From Your Home" ads from the Hollywood magazines.
>
> I am sure it can pay. Those who are here working hard to support BSG and its
> Sodomy symbolism
> and who are not being paid, are the true chumps here.

Damn. Leave to me to miss an opportunity. I'll check in at HH
Headquarters.

maf1029 (©2001-2008)

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Yup. Jealous as a green-eyed, green-skinned elf.

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