OT John 'F'ing Kerry CAUGHT LIEING by ABC!!!
Scott in Florida
Discarded Decorations
Videotape Contradicts John Kerry’s Own Statements Over Vietnam Medals
By Brian Ross and Chris Vlasto
ABCNEWS.com
April 26— Contradicting his statements as a candidate for president,
Sen. John Kerry claimed in a 1971 television interview that he threw
away as many as nine of his combat medals to protest the war in
Vietnam.
"I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals," Kerry
said in an interview on a Washington, D.C., news program on WRC-TV
called Viewpoints on Nov. 6, 1971, according to a tape obtained by
ABCNEWS.
Throughout his presidential campaign, Kerry has denied that he threw
away any of his medals during an anti-war protest in April 1971.
Calling it a "phony controversy" instigated by the Republican party,
Kerry said on Good Morning America today that he has always accurately
said what took place. "I threw my ribbons. I didn't have my medals. It
is very simple."
He also said he — and the military — didn't make a distinction between
medals and ribbons. "We threw away the symbols of what our country
gave us for what we had gone through," he said.
And in an interview with ABCNEWS' Peter Jennings last December, he
said it was a "myth."
But Kerry told a much different story on Viewpoints. Asked about the
anti-war veterans who threw their medals away, Kerry said "they
decided to give them back to their country."
Kerry was asked if he gave back the Bronze Star, Silver Star and three
Purple Hearts he was awarded for combat duty as a Navy lieutenant in
Vietnam. "Well, and above that, [I] gave back the others," he said.
The statement directly contradicts Kerry's most recent claims on the
disputed subject to the Los Angeles Times last Friday. "I never ever
implied that I did it, " Kerry told the newspaper, responding to the
question of whether he threw away his medals in protest.
"I'm proud of my medals. I always was proud of them," he told Jennings
in December, adding that he had only thrown away his "ribbons" and the
medals of two other veterans who could not attend the protest.
Flip Flop?
The disputed incident happened 33 years ago this past weekend, on
April 23, 1971, when Kerry led the group Vietnam Veterans Against the
War in a protest against the war they fought.
Many veterans were seen throwing their medals and ribbons over the
fence in front of the U.S. Capitol. The Boston Globe and other
newspapers reported that Kerry was among these veterans.
"In a real sense, this administration forced us to return our medals
because beyond the perversion of the war, these leaders themselves
denied us the integrity those symbols supposedly gave our lives,"
Kerry said the following day.
But in 1984, when he first ran for the U.S. Senate, Kerry revealed he
still had his medals. According to a Boston Globe report on April 15,
1984, union officials had expressed uneasiness with Kerry's candidacy
because he had thrown his medals away. Kerry acknowledged the medals
he threw away were, in fact, another soldier's medals. He reportedly
invited a union official home to personally inspect his Silver Star,
Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts, awarded for his combat duty as a
Navy lieutenant.
In the 1971 Viewpoints interview, he made no mention of the ribbons or
the medals belonging to another veteran.
And in 1988, Kerry again clarified his statement by saying he threw
out ribbons he had been awarded for three combat wounds, but not his
medals. "I was proud of my personal service and remain so," he told
the National Journal.
Eight years later in 1996, Kerry said while he did throw out his
ribbons, he didn't throw out his own medals because he "didn't have
time to go home [to New York] and get them," he told The Boston Globe.
Kerry's campaign Web site says he "is proud of the work he did to end
the war. The Nixon Administration made John Kerry one of its targets
and Republicans have been smearing him ever since. John Kerry threw
his ribbons and the medals of two veterans who could not attend the
event, and said, 'I am not doing this for any violent reasons, but for
peace and justice, and to try to make this country wake up once and
for all.'"
ABCNEWS' Madeleine Sauer contributed to this report.
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:29:07 GMT, Scott in Florida
><NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote:
>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Investigation/kerry_vietnam_medals_040425.html
>>
>>Discarded Decorations
>>Videotape Contradicts John Kerry’s Own Statements Over Vietnam Medals
>>By Brian Ross and Chris Vlasto
>>ABCNEWS.com
>>
>>April 26— Contradicting his statements as a candidate for president,
>>Sen. John Kerry claimed in a 1971 television interview that he threw
>>away as many as nine of his combat medals to protest the war in
>>Vietnam.
>
>Now is this really a surprise to anyone?
>
>Only an idiot would vote for Kerry the Liar.
>
>
>----------------------------------------
>"I don't own an SUV. The family has it.
> I don't have it." - Sen. John Kerry
LOL...for sure.
I saw my first Kerry for Prez sticker on a Toy Prius...figures...LOL
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:53:56 GMT, Scott in Florida
><NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote:
>
>>I saw my first Kerry for Prez sticker on a Toy Prius...figures...LOL
>
>The stickers I really love are on the '70's American oil burners,
>spewing smoke, dented and rusted, driven by unwashed cretins, urging
>people to support NPR and Greenpeace.
>
>Sort of like Kerry or Gore criticizing the IC engine, while driving
>around town in a limo.
>
>Elitism at its best.
>
>
>----------------------------------------
>"I don't own an SUV. The family has it.
> I don't have it." - Sen. John Kerry
This is NOT Kerry country...not sure where the hell Kerry country
really is...LOL
The flap over the medals is just too delicious to miss...
Please Please Please stay in the race JFK!!!!!
Scott in Florida
ron
his National Guard service. Hmmm - big change since his flip flop on
Clinton evading draft.
I have been wondering, did any of his (Kerry) crew get 3 combat wounds? I
heard of one seal wounded but curious about crew wounds.
ron
Philip®
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:05:38 GMT, Scott in Florida
> <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote:
>
>> The flap over the medals is just too delicious to miss...
>
>
>> Please Please Please stay in the race JFK!!!!!
>
Kerry is quickly becoming UNelectable. Dems need to produce a now
candidate.
--
- Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM
Scott in Florida
...as in 'ugly female' "now" candidate?
Scott in Florida
Tegger®
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> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:30:39 GMT, "Philip®"
> <1chip-...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>Kerry is quickly becoming UNelectable. Dems need to produce a now
>>candidate.
>
> Pssst. Philip...don't give 'em any ideas.
Bring back Dukakis <snicker>. We'll put him in a tank again.
--
TeGGeR®
How to find anything on the Internet or in Usenet Groups:
www.google.com
www.groups.google.com
Art
and cocaine, Kerry lied by saying he threw medals away when he actually kept
his medals but threw his ribbons and other anti-war veterans ribbons and
medals away. Sure that is a big deal and considering how well the war in
Iraq is going will certainly make a big difference in who I vote for.
dizzy
<teggerati...@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>Eric Dreher <ericd|@cox.net> spake unto the masses in
>news:hpbr80t0cs6fk6suo...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:30:39 GMT, "Philip®"
>> <1chip-...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Kerry is quickly becoming UNelectable. Dems need to produce a now
>>>candidate.
>>
>> Pssst. Philip...don't give 'em any ideas.
>
>Bring back Dukakis <snicker>. We'll put him in a tank again.
Listen to yourselves. Who hung-back and partied while (allegedly)
serving in the Guard, while Kerry did combat duty in Vietnam?
That's right, "flight suit" George Bush. Guffaw.
Philip®
Some strident, heavy equipment operating ol broad in comfortable
shoes who is a closet Harley owner?
--
-Philip
"I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm
not sure that you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
-
Albert Farkminster
Philip®
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:30:39 GMT, "Philip®"
> <1chip-...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:05:38 GMT, Scott in Florida
>>> <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The flap over the medals is just too delicious to miss...
>>>
>>> Just one of many skeletons yet to see light.
>>>
>>>> Please Please Please stay in the race JFK!!!!!
>>>
>>> We can only hope. It ain't over yet.
>>
>> candidate.
>
> Pssst. Philip...don't give 'em any ideas.
I predict a new Democrat candidate will appear at a seemingly short
time before the November election. People of all political stripe
will be soooo sick of Kerry by then that anybody else will look like
a better choice AND... there will be less time left to examine the
new candidate closely.
Philip®
Arty .... tossing the medals or the accompanying ribbons or pins for
each medal is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge in the eyes
of officers.
MDT Tech®
> ...as in 'ugly female' "now" candidate?
>
>
> Scott in Florida
Yeah, run a bull dike!
--
I voted for the 87 billion dollars before I voted against it--John F
Kerry
MDT Tech®
Art, Kerry could of ditched service all together, even gone to Moscow to
protest the US, snorted cocaine, smoked weed, lied before a grand jury,
commited purgery, give away missle guidance technoilogy, along with
special machine tools, nuclear secrets to the Chinese and you'd still
vote for him. In fact, I know you did vote for Clinton.
MDT Tech®
>
> Listen to yourselves. Who hung-back and partied while (allegedly)
> serving in the Guard, while Kerry did combat duty in Vietnam?
>
> That's right, "flight suit" George Bush. Guffaw.
>
Hey dipshit, what branch did you serve in? Why was this not a big issue
when Clinton was running agaisnt Dole? Dole had a real combat wound, not
a scratch that only required neosporin. He lost the use of his left arm
since liberating Italy. While Clinton evaded service all together, but
you voted for Clinton. So this again shows the liberal contradiction and
the hypocracy. So shut up, stick a sock in it. Of course, Dole didnt
mention "WWII" in every sentence, he wasnt looking for special treatment
or pity.
Mack Twamley
"Art" <begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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What's the matter, Art? You don't think that Kerry telling conflicting
stories about what he did with his ribbons...or medals ...thirty years ago
is every bit as important as Bush stealing $700 million out of the
Afghanistan war funds to pay for preparing for the Iraq war, while lying to
the American people about all those nasty Weapons of Mass
Destruction? For shame, Art, what are you thinking? Our Republican pals
will start calling you UnAmerican if you don't watch it.
Scott in Florida
I 'hung-back' during that time....
Joined the Navy and spent 2 years 7 months and 7 days total Foreign
and/or Sea Duty (In my case Sea Duty)...
GWB was in the same military I was. Either or both of us were subject
to call and I'm sure we would have gone.
Matter of fact, if I had not gotten out on 11 June 1961 at the end of
my enlistment...I would have traveled with USS Enterprise to Viet Nam.
My particular rating would have required me to extend my enlistment
just one month after I got out...
GWB and I did our duty...
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 03:55:42 GMT, "Philip®"
><1chip-...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I predict a new Democrat candidate will appear at a seemingly short
>>time before the November election. People of all political stripe
>>will be soooo sick of Kerry by then that anybody else will look like
>>a better choice AND... there will be less time left to examine the
>>new candidate closely.
>
>I wouldn't bet against it.
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------
>"I wish they had a delete button on Lexis-Nexis."
> - John F. Kerry
Love your tag line, Eric!
The delete button would have to be used a LOT... LOL
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
'will certainly make a big difference in who I vote for' ?
Sure will for me, too...
GWB all the way!!!!
Scott in Florida
Art
"MDT Tech®" <ssau...@repairmen.com> wrote in message
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Art
" Mack Twamley" <mack...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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One of them already accused me of loving Hitler or some crap like that.
Whenever faced with facts they spread lies and damn lies.
Art
"Scott in Florida" <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
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Scott in Florida
<begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Vote for GWB... single handedly created a million new terrorists in Iraq.
>
LOL....nah
That is a million new targets...
Scott in Florida
Philip®
> Vote for GWB... single handedly created a million new terrorists
> in Iraq.
Oh.... just who might those new terrorists be? Describe them without
becoming racist.
Philip®
> One of them already accused me of loving Hitler or some crap like
> that. Whenever faced with facts they spread lies and damn lies.
That's been the Lib's MO for decades!
--
~Philip
"Liberalism is a mental disease!"
-Michael Savage
Mack Twamley
"Scott in Florida" <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
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>>
>
> Sure will for me, too...
>
> GWB all the way!!!!
>
>
> Scott in Florida
I'll go for that.....All the way to Crawford, TX for good, or better yet, a
stay in a federal correctional institution for war crimes.
Art
the way GW even insulted his father the other day.... something like "this
time we are not going to cut and run". I didn't realize how smart his
father was to back off till now. Although ironically, back then if we did
try to topple Saddam, we wouldn't be fighting as strong of terrorist network
as we are now so I guess they both sucked completely at foreign policy. GW
for overthrowing Saddam and perhaps his father for failure to do so. We
will never know if his father screwed up but we know GW did for sure.
" Mack Twamley" <mack...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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Philip®
Typical commie lib ... incarcerate the opposition were possible on
contrived charges. Less Koolaide, Mack.
Philip®
>snip<
> GW for overthrowing Saddam and perhaps his father for
> failure to do so. We will never know if his father screwed up but
> we know GW did for sure.
"We" must be you and the other residents at Fairview.
sandy...@ns.sympatico.ca
obviously an "auto help group" with political crap? Are you running for
office? Are you looking for a criminal pardon? Are you even old enough to
vote? Nobody wants to read this in this group. Please find the appropriate
one and bang away merrily on your keypad (or is that gaily?). When Kerry or
Dubya drives a Toyota with a problem then please feel free to assist them.
Don't go away mad - just go away!
"Scott in Florida" <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
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>
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Investigation/kerry_vietnam_medals_0
40425.html
>
> Discarded Decorations
> Videotape Contradicts John Kerry's Own Statements Over Vietnam Medals
> By Brian Ross and Chris Vlasto
> ABCNEWS.com
>
> April 26- Contradicting his statements as a candidate for president,
> Sen. John Kerry claimed in a 1971 television interview that he threw
> away as many as nine of his combat medals to protest the war in
> Vietnam.
>
>
> "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals," Kerry
> said in an interview on a Washington, D.C., news program on WRC-TV
> called Viewpoints on Nov. 6, 1971, according to a tape obtained by
> ABCNEWS.
>
> Throughout his presidential campaign, Kerry has denied that he threw
> away any of his medals during an anti-war protest in April 1971.
>
> Calling it a "phony controversy" instigated by the Republican party,
> Kerry said on Good Morning America today that he has always accurately
> said what took place. "I threw my ribbons. I didn't have my medals. It
> is very simple."
>
> He also said he - and the military - didn't make a distinction between
> medals and ribbons. "We threw away the symbols of what our country
> gave us for what we had gone through," he said.
>
> And in an interview with ABCNEWS' Peter Jennings last December, he
> said it was a "myth."
>
> But Kerry told a much different story on Viewpoints. Asked about the
> anti-war veterans who threw their medals away, Kerry said "they
> decided to give them back to their country."
>
> Kerry was asked if he gave back the Bronze Star, Silver Star and three
> Purple Hearts he was awarded for combat duty as a Navy lieutenant in
> Vietnam. "Well, and above that, [I] gave back the others," he said.
>
> The statement directly contradicts Kerry's most recent claims on the
> disputed subject to the Los Angeles Times last Friday. "I never ever
> implied that I did it, " Kerry told the newspaper, responding to the
> question of whether he threw away his medals in protest.
>
> "I'm proud of my medals. I always was proud of them," he told Jennings
> in December, adding that he had only thrown away his "ribbons" and the
> medals of two other veterans who could not attend the protest.
>
> Flip Flop?
>
> The disputed incident happened 33 years ago this past weekend, on
> April 23, 1971, when Kerry led the group Vietnam Veterans Against the
> War in a protest against the war they fought.
>
> Many veterans were seen throwing their medals and ribbons over the
> fence in front of the U.S. Capitol. The Boston Globe and other
> newspapers reported that Kerry was among these veterans.
>
> "In a real sense, this administration forced us to return our medals
> because beyond the perversion of the war, these leaders themselves
> denied us the integrity those symbols supposedly gave our lives,"
> Kerry said the following day.
>
> But in 1984, when he first ran for the U.S. Senate, Kerry revealed he
> still had his medals. According to a Boston Globe report on April 15,
> 1984, union officials had expressed uneasiness with Kerry's candidacy
> because he had thrown his medals away. Kerry acknowledged the medals
> he threw away were, in fact, another soldier's medals. He reportedly
> invited a union official home to personally inspect his Silver Star,
> Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts, awarded for his combat duty as a
> Navy lieutenant.
>
> In the 1971 Viewpoints interview, he made no mention of the ribbons or
> the medals belonging to another veteran.
>
> And in 1988, Kerry again clarified his statement by saying he threw
> out ribbons he had been awarded for three combat wounds, but not his
> medals. "I was proud of my personal service and remain so," he told
> the National Journal.
>
> Eight years later in 1996, Kerry said while he did throw out his
> ribbons, he didn't throw out his own medals because he "didn't have
> time to go home [to New York] and get them," he told The Boston Globe.
>
> Kerry's campaign Web site says he "is proud of the work he did to end
> the war. The Nixon Administration made John Kerry one of its targets
> and Republicans have been smearing him ever since. John Kerry threw
> his ribbons and the medals of two veterans who could not attend the
> event, and said, 'I am not doing this for any violent reasons, but for
> peace and justice, and to try to make this country wake up once and
> for all.'"
>
> ABCNEWS' Madeleine Sauer contributed to this report.
> Scott in Florida
Mack Twamley
<sandy...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Is there any particular reason why you desire to continually clutter what
is
> obviously an "auto help group" with political crap? Are you running for
> office? Are you looking for a criminal pardon? Are you even old enough
to
> vote? Nobody wants to read this in this group. Please find the
appropriate
> one and bang away merrily on your keypad (or is that gaily?). When Kerry
or
> Dubya drives a Toyota with a problem then please feel free to assist them.
>
> Don't go away mad - just go away!
Sandy, did you happen to notice a little couple of letters at the beginning
of each of these posts? It says "OT" which (if you don't know, stands for
"OFF TOPIC" Feel free to ignore all such posts.
and don't try to be the administrator of this ng, or a bunch of us political
junkies may jump all over you.
Same holds true on the obituaries newsgroup where they like to discuss
baseball, and everybody agrees that death and baseball are "ON topic".
Mack Twamley
"Philip®" <1chip-...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> Mack Twamley wrote:
> > "Scott in Florida" <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote in message
> > news:cmes80p278idmu519...@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >> 'will certainly make a big difference in who I vote for' ?
> >>
> >> Sure will for me, too...
> >>
> >> GWB all the way!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott in Florida
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > I'll go for that.....All the way to Crawford, TX for good, or
> > better yet, a stay in a federal correctional institution for war
> > crimes.
>
> Typical commie lib ... incarcerate the opposition were possible on
> contrived charges. Less Koolaide, Mack.
Contrived? Think again. Indictable, for sure. BTW, I'm so far from
being a commie, I'm chuckling at the sobriquet. And no koolaid for me,
thanks. Keep it yourself and " prosit"!
I'm disappointed that you're not even going to give me the accolade that
neocons give liberals..."UnAmerican" ~
Art
appointed president. What's your point. Clinton isn't running this time or
do you keep forgetting.
"MDT Tech®" <ssau...@repairmen.com> wrote in message
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Art
activists to terrorists. These clowns have got to go.
" Mack Twamley" <mack...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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Brick...@mailcity.com
drove a foreign car they would not stand a snowballs chance
in hell of being elected. LOL
mike hunt
Brick...@mailcity.com
Actually President Bush, like all Presidents except Washington,
was elected President by the Electoral College as required by the
Constitution.
mike hunt
sandy...@ns.sympatico.ca
You are absolutely correct. My apologies. I had no idea what the "OT"
stood for.
Thanks for being cordial with me - lesson learned!
dizzy
wrote:
>dizzy wrote:
>>
>> Listen to yourselves. Who hung-back and partied while (allegedly)
>> serving in the Guard, while Kerry did combat duty in Vietnam?
>>
>> That's right, "flight suit" George Bush. Guffaw.
>
>Hey dipshit, what branch did you serve in? Why was this not a big issue
>when Clinton was running agaisnt Dole?
Idiot. You right wingers are making it an issue with your
hypocritical, and highly ironic, attacks on Kerry.
>Dole had a real combat wound, not
>a scratch that only required neosporin. He lost the use of his left arm
>since liberating Italy. While Clinton evaded service all together, but
>you voted for Clinton.
Idiot. No, I did not.
>So this again shows the liberal contradiction and
>the hypocracy.
It only shows what a lying asshole you are.
>So shut up, stick a sock in it. Of course, Dole didnt
>mention "WWII" in every sentence, he wasnt looking for special treatment
>or pity.
Idiot. See my first paragraph above, hypocrite.
dizzy
>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:00:43 GMT, MDT Tech® <ssau...@repairmen.com>
>wrote:
>
>>dizzy wrote:
>>>
>>> Listen to yourselves. Who hung-back and partied while (allegedly)
>>> serving in the Guard, while Kerry did combat duty in Vietnam?
>>>
>>> That's right, "flight suit" George Bush. Guffaw.
>Just another example of dizziot ignorance, recycled from the media.
>
>Anyone who knows anything at all about military aircraft knows that
>a flight suit is REQUIRED attire. In no way was his suit a political
>prop.
So what, idiot? It was obviously a setup photo-op, with him in his
flight suit.
Besides, that's not the point, you idiot. The POINT is that you
stupid right-wingers are hypocritical and dishonest enough to attack
the war record of Kerry, considering what Bush did.
>Just how stupid are these lefties?
Not as stupid as you lying right-wingers, obviously.
dizzy
<1chip-...@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote:
>Art wrote:
>> Vote for GWB... single handedly created a million new terrorists
>> in Iraq.
>
>Oh.... just who might those new terrorists be? Describe them without
>becoming racist.
Idiot.
Ilene...@mailcity.com
the name IDIOT to most of you posts. ;)
mike hunt
Mack Twamley
<sandy...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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And thank YOU, Sandy, for being cordial, too! If you're a newbie, that
means no apology is necessary....and one day you'll get your chance to set
someone straight...cordially. : - )
ron
Scott in Florida
<begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Dole was a good man who ran a lousy campaign. Bush is a shithead who was
>appointed president. What's your point. Clinton isn't running this time or
>do you keep forgetting.
ROFLMAO....Arty!!!!
You are losing it like all demoncrats!!!!!!!!
This is truly great fun!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>"MDT Tech®" <ssau...@repairmen.com> wrote in message
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>> dizzy wrote:
>> >
>> > Listen to yourselves. Who hung-back and partied while (allegedly)
>> > serving in the Guard, while Kerry did combat duty in Vietnam?
>> >
>> > That's right, "flight suit" George Bush. Guffaw.
>> >
>>
>> Hey dipshit, what branch did you serve in? Why was this not a big issue
>> when Clinton was running agaisnt Dole? Dole had a real combat wound, not
>> a scratch that only required neosporin. He lost the use of his left arm
>> since liberating Italy. While Clinton evaded service all together, but
>> you voted for Clinton. So this again shows the liberal contradiction and
>> the hypocracy. So shut up, stick a sock in it. Of course, Dole didnt
>> mention "WWII" in every sentence, he wasnt looking for special treatment
>> or pity.
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> I voted for the 87 billion dollars before I voted against it--John F
>> Kerry
>>
>
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:00:43 GMT, MDT Tech® <ssau...@repairmen.com>
>wrote:
>
>>dizzy wrote:
>>>
>>> Listen to yourselves. Who hung-back and partied while (allegedly)
>>> serving in the Guard, while Kerry did combat duty in Vietnam?
>>>
>>> That's right, "flight suit" George Bush. Guffaw.
>>
>>Hey dipshit, what branch did you serve in? Why was this not a big issue
>>when Clinton was running agaisnt Dole?
>
>Idiot. You right wingers are making it an issue with your
>hypocritical, and highly ironic, attacks on Kerry.
>
ROFLMAO....Kerry is attacking HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!
Idiot? That word comes to mind for John 'F'ing Kerry!!!!!!!!!
>>Dole had a real combat wound, not
>>a scratch that only required neosporin. He lost the use of his left arm
>>since liberating Italy. While Clinton evaded service all together, but
>>you voted for Clinton.
>
>Idiot. No, I did not.
>
>>So this again shows the liberal contradiction and
>>the hypocracy.
>
>It only shows what a lying asshole you are.
>
>>So shut up, stick a sock in it. Of course, Dole didnt
>>mention "WWII" in every sentence, he wasnt looking for special treatment
>>or pity.
>
>Idiot. See my first paragraph above, hypocrite.
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
<begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Did you hear the other day when Bush's mouth Karen compared pro-choice
>activists to terrorists. These clowns have got to go.
Well killing babies has to go.....
Scott in Florida
Scott in Florida
>Is there any particular reason why you desire to continually clutter what is
>obviously an "auto help group" with political crap? Are you running for
>office? Are you looking for a criminal pardon? Are you even old enough to
>vote? Nobody wants to read this in this group. Please find the appropriate
>one and bang away merrily on your keypad (or is that gaily?). When Kerry or
>Dubya drives a Toyota with a problem then please feel free to assist them.
>
>Don't go away mad - just go away!
Nah...I'm having too much fun with you Demoncrats...
LOL
Scott in Florida
JAC
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:23:57 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Let me get this straight, about 30 years ago while Bush was high on alcohol
>and cocaine, Kerry lied by saying he threw medals away when he actually kept
>his medals but threw his ribbons and other anti-war veterans ribbons and
>medals away. Sure that is a big deal and considering how well the war in
>Iraq is going will certainly make a big difference in who I vote for.
>
JAC
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:47:38 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>At least he did not create a million new terrorists in Iraq.
>
>
>"MDT Tech®" <ssau...@repairmen.com> wrote in message
>news:WKljc.14250$e4....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Art wrote:
>>
>> > Let me get this straight, about 30 years ago while Bush was high on
>alcohol
>> > and cocaine, Kerry lied by saying he threw medals away when he actually
>kept
>> > his medals but threw his ribbons and other anti-war veterans ribbons and
>> > medals away. Sure that is a big deal and considering how well the war
>in
>> > Iraq is going will certainly make a big difference in who I vote for.
>> >
>> >
>> Art, Kerry could of ditched service all together, even gone to Moscow to
>> protest the US, snorted cocaine, smoked weed, lied before a grand jury,
>> commited purgery, give away missle guidance technoilogy, along with
>> special machine tools, nuclear secrets to the Chinese and you'd still
>> vote for him. In fact, I know you did vote for Clinton.
MDT Tech®
> What's the matter, Art? You don't think that Kerry telling conflicting
> stories about what he did with his ribbons...or medals ...thirty years ago
> is every bit as important as Bush stealing $700 million out of the
> Afghanistan war funds to pay for preparing for the Iraq war, while lying to
> the American people about all those nasty Weapons of Mass
> Destruction?
LOL, good one Mack, did you pick this up from "moveon.org?" Hey, I have
some ocean front property I'd sell you in Arizona!
MDT Tech®
> At least he did not create a million new terrorists in Iraq.
>
Create? They always were, now we cam flush them out and shoot them.
MDT Tech®
> Vote for GWB... single handedly created a million new terrorists in Iraq.
>
Vote for Kerry, Osama would!
MDT Tech®
> Dole was a good man who ran a lousy campaign. Bush is a shithead who was
> appointed president. What's your point. Clinton isn't running this time or
> do you keep forgetting.
>
Bush was no appointed, he wont the majority of electoral votes. The
count was done 5 times from independent news organizations, all had GWB
as the winner. If you'd like me to point to the constitution where is
said electoral votes not popular voted, I'd be happy to do it. The
liberals always like to amend the constitution to fit them. And Kerry
isnt even in the running. November is going to be funny!
MDT Tech®
> Did you hear the other day when Bush's mouth Karen compared pro-choice
> activists to terrorists. These clowns have got to go.
I guess it depends on how far they take their activism. Lots of left
wing groups are terrorist, I can think of quite a few, ie PAWS, ALF...
MDT Tech®
> and only "the family" can own/drive an SUV
>
>
>
ANd he wants you out of your SUV but he cant get his wife out of one!
More eletism
Philip®
subject line. So, it shall continue! Got a problem with that? LOL
--
~Philip
"Liberalism is a mental disease!"
-Michael Savage
sandy...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
> Is there any particular reason why you desire to continually
> clutter what is obviously an "auto help group" with political
> crap? Are you running for office? Are you looking for a criminal
> pardon? Are you even old enough to vote? Nobody wants to read
> this in this group. Please find the appropriate one and bang away
> merrily on your keypad (or is that gaily?). When Kerry or Dubya
> drives a Toyota with a problem then please feel free to assist
> them.
>
> Don't go away mad - just go away!
>
>
Philip®
the next zip code! LOL Hehehhehee! What a MAROON you are! Only
the most ignorant of Liberals (and there's hardly a dearth of you out
there) doesn't know the USA has never been a direct democracy. LOL
--
~Philip
"Liberalism is a mental disease!"
-Michael Savage
dizzy
<begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Dole was a good man who ran a lousy campaign. Bush is a shithead who was
>appointed president. What's your point. Clinton isn't running this time or
>do you keep forgetting.
Well, he had a famous daddy, you know. THAT'S a good reason to make
him president, isn't it???
MDT Tech®
> That is nothing but pure rhetoric with no basis in fact.
No, its a fact.
Art
to feel sorry for the guy. You guys were right. Attacking Iraq was the
perfect thing for Bush to do. Thanks from all the moderates out there.
"dizzy" <di...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:hsqt80l4clmuu7fdl...@4ax.com...
Philip®
Eric Dreher
wrote:
>Got an advance copy of the 2004 Democrapic Convention Agenda:
>
>6:00pm- Opening flag burning ceremony.
>6:30pm- Anti-war rally no. 1.
>6:40pm- Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>7:00pm- Tribute theme to France.
>7:10pm- Collect offerings for al-Zawahri and al-Sadr defense fund.
>7:20pm- Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>7:25pm- Tribute theme to Spain.
>7:45pm- Anti-war rally no. 2. (Moderated by Michael Moore)
>8:00pm- John Kerry presents one side of the issues
>8:25pm- Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>8:30pm- Terrorist appeasement workshop.
>9:00pm- Gay marriage ceremony.
>9:30pm- * Intermission * (Refreshments hosted by Ted Kennedy)
>10:00pm- Flag stomping and defacing ceremony
>10:15pm- Re-enactment of Kerry's fake medal toss.
>10:30pm- Cameo by Dean 'Yeeearrrrrrrg!'
>10:40pm- Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>10:50pm- Pledge of allegiance to the UN.
>11:00pm- Double gay marriage ceremony.
>11:15pm- Maximizing Welfare workshop.
>11:20pm- John Kerry presents the other side of the issues
>11:30pm- 'Free Saddam' pep rally.
>11:59pm- Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
>12:00am - Nomination of Democrat candidate.
Humorous, and not to far from the likely happenings.
-------------------------------------------------
"I wish they had a delete button on Lexis-Nexis."
- John F. Kerry
Eric Dreher
Humorous, and not too far from the likely happenings.
JAC
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 02:36:44 GMT, MDT Tech® <ssau...@repairmen.com>
wrote:
>JAC wrote:
Art
Vietnam war decades ago relevant. However open minded people will probably
find what Paul Brema said about the Bush administration doing nothing about
terrorism before 9/11 quite relevant. Is Bush going to call him a liar too?
"Eric Dreher" <ericd|@cox.net> wrote in message
news:t82r80ln80um0ramg...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:05:38 GMT, Scott in Florida
> <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote:
>
> >The flap over the medals is just too delicious to miss...
>
> Just one of many skeletons yet to see light.
>
> >Please Please Please stay in the race JFK!!!!!
>
> We can only hope. It ain't over yet.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> "I don't own an SUV. The family has it.
> I don't have it." - Sen. John Kerry
MDT Tech®
> Oh, OK, if you say so.....Thanks for clarifying.
Do a little research, you have the entire internet in front of you.
MDT Tech®
> I doubt anyone but right wing Republicans consider something said about the
> Vietnam war decades ago relevant. However open minded people will probably
> find what Paul Brema said about the Bush administration doing nothing about
> terrorism before 9/11 quite relevant. Is Bush going to call him a liar too?
>
Art, hindsight is always 20/20. Just suppose GWB said there was going to
be a definite terrorist attack, do you really think he could implement
the plan to prevent it without an outcry? Heck, you see all the whining
about the homeland security, airport screening now...
JAC
that a million new terrorists have been created.
On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:29:54 GMT, MDT Tech® <ssau...@repairmen.com>
wrote:
>JAC wrote:
Tha Ghee
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:29:07 GMT, Scott in Florida
> <NotInThi...@nope.ucan't> wrote:
>
>
>http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Investigation/kerry_vietnam_medals_
040425.html
> >
> >Discarded Decorations
> >Videotape Contradicts John Kerry's Own Statements Over Vietnam Medals
> >By Brian Ross and Chris Vlasto
> >ABCNEWS.com
> >
> >April 26- Contradicting his statements as a candidate for president,
> >Sen. John Kerry claimed in a 1971 television interview that he threw
> >away as many as nine of his combat medals to protest the war in
> >Vietnam.
>
>
> Only an idiot would vote for Kerry the Liar.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> "I don't own an SUV. The family has it.
> I don't have it." - Sen. John Kerry
only an idiot would vote to keep an idiot in office.
Tha Ghee
news:408ED8F1...@mailcity.com...
> You are entitled to you own opinion but not your own facts.
> Actually President Bush, like all Presidents except Washington,
> was elected President by the Electoral College as required by the
> Constitution.
>
>
> mike hunt
>
the election.
Tha Ghee
news:cPHjc.15855$e4.1...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Hey ART.... MikeHunt just KNOCKED you out of the ball park and into
> the next zip code! LOL Hehehhehee! What a MAROON you are! Only
> the most ignorant of Liberals (and there's hardly a dearth of you out
> there) doesn't know the USA has never been a direct democracy. LOL
> --
>
> ~Philip
>
> "Liberalism is a mental disease!"
> -Michael Savage
>
him. but unlike all the other Pres. GWB didn't win the popular vote. so
Art is correct in a way. we all knew this and those who didn't now know
because of the fraud of a Pres. that's in there now.
Tha Ghee
Tha Ghee
news:886u80tfva5m32nla...@4ax.com...
> That is nothing but pure rhetoric with no basis in fact.
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:47:38 GMT, "Art"
> <begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >At least he did not create a million new terrorists in Iraq.
> >
Tha Ghee
> Show me a news piece (not a commentary) on the Internet that shows us
> that a million new terrorists have been created.
>
if it's half then their about 12 million new terrorist. it's called common
sense some of us use it.
Tha Ghee
would a big outcry.
Tha Ghee
> Art wrote:
> > Vote for GWB... single handedly created a million new terrorists
> > in Iraq.
>
> Oh.... just who might those new terrorists be? Describe them without
> becoming racist.
> --
>
> -Philip
>
> "I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm
> not sure that you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
> -
> Albert Farkminster
>
People of Iraq that don't like the American intervention.
Tha Ghee
news:noms80lk085h61lvn...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:49:53 GMT, "Art"
> <begunaNOS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Vote for GWB... single handedly created a million new terrorists in
Iraq.
> >
>
>
> That is a million new targets...
>
>
>
> Scott in Florida
why send more of our boys into harms way.
Tha Ghee
> Art wrote:
>
> > At least he did not create a million new terrorists in Iraq.
> >
>
> Create? They always were, now we cam flush them out and shoot them.
>
> --
>
>
>
> I voted for the 87 billion dollars before I voted against it--John F
> Kerry
>
so more young man can die this is smart.
JAC
On Sat, 1 May 2004 15:56:09 -0400, "Tha Ghee" <grew...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
dizzy
wrote:
>Idiot "Eric Dreher" <ericd|@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Only an idiot would vote for Kerry the Liar.
>
>only an idiot would vote to keep an idiot in office.
YEAH, SLAM DUNK!!!!
(That was my impression of a typical snail-brained right-wing
circle-jerk post.)
Mike...@mailcity.com
leaders that understands the world is at war with terrorist
throughout the world, was not the only President to be elected to
office without winning the popular vote. There was another
before him. That is only a diversion by the uninformed and
beside the point. The President is not elected by the popular
vote.
mike hunt
MDT Tech®
>
> did they count the votes on the side of the road??
>
>
LOL< still stuck on that one? What a nut job, about time to get back to
the institution, isnt it? Sunday evening, almost 6PM
Tha Ghee
news:40953B8D...@mailcity.com...
> Actually our great President George Bush, one of the few world
> leaders that understands the world is at war with terrorist
> throughout the world, was not the only President to be elected to
> office without winning the popular vote. There was another
> before him. That is only a diversion by the uninformed and
> beside the point. The President is not elected by the popular
> vote.
>
>
> mike hunt
>
things keep going good for Kerry he'll cheat to get in again.
Tha Ghee
Tha Ghee
> Did you confuse your opinion with a news source?
>
Philip®
> "MDT Tech®" <ssau...@repairmen.com> wrote in message
> news:9Eglc.3635$V97....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>
>> it--John F Kerry
>>
> no I gotta make sure your mom doesn't steal my money.
That looks like a veiled referenced to the idea you'll never see an
SSI check with your name on it.
--
- Philip @ Maximum Torque RPM
JAC
terrorists.
On Wed, 5 May 2004 14:22:35 -0400, "Tha Ghee" <grew...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>"JAC" <techguy94-at-mchsi-dot-com@> wrote in message
Tha Ghee
people mad at us. and if we keep messing with them we can piss of their
cousins and that will add to the problem.
Tha Ghee
enough. I'll try to live off my Roth. can you tell me what a SSI check
look likes.
Philip®
Actually, an SSI check represents no such thing. SSI qualification
is not means tested at the high end. Dick Chainey can collect SSI if
he has 40 work quarters paid in.
JAC
wrote:
>"JAC" <techguy94-at-mchsi-dot-com@> wrote in message
>news:akbj905p9l7f9fved...@4ax.com...
>> >> Did you confuse your opinion with a news source?
>> >>
>> >what opinion, the facts are that there are 24 million people in Iraq.
>> >
>>
>who knows?? if it's 1% then that's 240,000 people I don't want that many
>people mad at us. and if we keep messing with them we can piss of their
>cousins and that will add to the problem.
Like they weren't "mad at us" already, as you simplistically call it.
What, are they "MORE mad at us" now? Oh no, not MORE mad at us!
MDT Tech®
> Like they weren't "mad at us" already, as you simplistically call it.
> What, are they "MORE mad at us" now? Oh no, not MORE mad at us!
Yes JAC, instead of being really really really mad, they are really
really really really mad now!
--
JAC
created their hatred. They hate us. They hated us before the war,
and they hate us after the war. That is why they are called
terrorists. You don't reason with them, you don't negotiate with
them. You kill them before they kill you.
On Sun, 09 May 2004 23:03:29 GMT, MDT Tech® <ssau...@repairmen.com>
wrote:
>JAC wrote:
SHARX
|| Isn't that hilarious? Like they needed a reason to hate us. Like we
|| created their hatred. They hate us. They hated us before the war,
|| and they hate us after the war. That is why they are called
|| terrorists. You don't reason with them, you don't negotiate with
|| them. You kill them before they kill you.
Meanwhile, the idiot DUMBocrats desperately try to use this to salvage their
losing election efforts.