Car from the movie "The Wraith"
bret...@ctwok.com
About 2 or 3 months ago, in one of the major kit car magazines, a reader
wrote a letter concerning kit cars which copied teh car used in the 1986
movie "The Wraith". The magazine responded with the name of a company
that made kits for it, but the compnay could not be contacted. Does
anyone have information on this car, any kits from it, or the text of
the letter and the response? If I were to build a kit car, this would
be it. Thanks in advance.
Brett Benson
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I had stumbled across this on the kitcar web ring
the other day
Dru
In article <7luj88$1ou$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
JB
I have not been able to locate any kit builders that offer this kit either.
PLS pass on anything you find out and I'll do the same.
Have you seen the Ultima http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/ it's a pretty awsome
machine too.
bret...@ctwok.com wrote in message <7luj88$1ou$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
bret...@ctwok.com
response as of yet.
Brett Benson
bret...@ctwok.com
In article <7m01t5$ii1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
dles...@my-deja.com wrote:
> I think this is what you are looking for
>
> http://members.tripod.com/mcwalkerusa/dalesar.html
>
> I had stumbled across this on the kitcar web ring
> the other day
>
> Dru
>
> In article <7luj88$1ou$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> bret...@ctwok.com wrote:
Paul Sher Jr.
I have emailed the manufacturer on Wednesday as well with the same results.
Could you update me by email when you get a response? I am going to try to
give him a call this afternoon.
The legacy of the car in Hollywood goes something like this:
PPG provided production with their "Interceptor" Show car for use in the
film Wraith. According to Beki Adam's book "Star Cars" the car arrived on
set with it's own mechanics and security. 3 More stunt vehicles were made by
taking fibreglass molds from the original. The last of these remaining stunt
cars wound up at Fantasy Cars Ranch in San Diego and was later sold to a
collector in Japan a little over 2 years ago. The molds were then sold to a
kit car company in the Midwest. Due to a bookkeeping error, the name and
address of that kit car company was lost.
It is possible that Dalesar is that same kit car company and that their
molds are original, or at least a variant of the original molds modified to
fit their chassis needs.
Would appreciate any additional info available about the original or Dalesar
replicas.
Thanks in advance,
Paul Sher Jr.
Code One Custom Auto
TV and Movie Cars
www.codeoneauto.com
bret...@ctwok.com wrote in message <7m408u$vn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Paul Sher Jr.
Just called Dalesar.
Answering machine says out of the office for a week for personal reasons.
bret...@ctwok.com
Thanks for the info. I will let you know if I herar anything at my
end. By the way, my next step was going to be contact you! You have an
excellent start on you website, keep on building it. Also, as I said in
my initial message, either it Kit Car or Kit Car Illustrated magazines,
last month or the month before, ran a letter from a reader requesting
information on a Wraith kit. The magazine responded that a couple of
prototypes had been produced but not marketed. The response included
the name of the company/person who obtained the molds and was building
the kits; unfortunately, the magazine related they were unable to
contact the person/company and they did not print the phone number.
Might be fruitful to look for the magazine if you have access to back
issues (I do not).
Brett
In article <7m5dtn$c7e$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
B210
1999 03:58:04 GMT, bret...@ctwok.com wrote:
>If this is a repost, I apologize. Deja went nuts on me.
>
>About 2 or 3 months ago, in one of the major kit car magazines, a reader
>wrote a letter concerning kit cars which copied teh car used in the 1986
>movie "The Wraith". The magazine responded with the name of a company
>that made kits for it, but the compnay could not be contacted. Does
>anyone have information on this car, any kits from it, or the text of
>the letter and the response? If I were to build a kit car, this would
>be it. Thanks in advance.
>
B210
me know. I will do the same for you. Thanks
74Pantera
>The legacy of the car in Hollywood goes something like this:
>
>PPG provided production with their "Interceptor" Show car for use in the
>film Wraith. According to Beki Adam's book "Star Cars" the car arrived on
Paul - What do you know about the Countach replica used in the movie
"It Takes Two"? I talked to the builder a few years back and he gave
me some great info, but I can't remember his name. I seem to remember
he was in Texas. I'm looking for a clean, full sized replica and that
car looked like it was nicely done, which was the original reason I
contacted him.
Paul Sher Jr.
Great movie, Was funny to see him getting married again in Father of the
Bride. Best car scene in "It Takes Two" was the Countach spinning on the
back of the wrecker like a fish.
Don't have any info on the car at the moment. Could ask the transportation
coordinator from that film and find out which replica company they used. The
cars looked the same to me as the ones used in "Speed Zone" (Cannonball Run
3 in Japan) The car did look fairly accurate once you overlooked the
sunroof. Kit Car Illustrated publishes a list of manufacturers and their
addresses. You could pick one up and see if you recognize any of the Texas
manufacturers. Did the film credits list the manufacturer? I have a copy of
the film and could check it out in the next day or so and get you that
information.
I have found that Euroworks produces some of the most accurate, well built
cars, but I once had a bad experience with them. That was a long time ago
and I would hope that they have corrected the problems by now.
Good luck with your search, I will email you directly with my findings.
Paul Sher Jr.
Code One Custom Auto
TV and Movie Cars
www.codeoneauto.com
74Pantera wrote in message <932247597.316569@cacheraq001>...
Paul Sher Jr.
Wraith II. He has been out of town for quite some time and is currently
catching up on his emails.
If you contacted them, I would expect that you would be receiving a reply
soon.
Paul Sher Jr.
Code One Custom Auto
TV and Movie Cars
www.codeoneauto.com
B210 wrote in message <3793ef1d...@news.oz-online.net>...
>hello me again my email is mail to : j...@oz-online.netOn Wed, 07 Jul
74Pantera
>
>You mean the Trovare'?
Yepper. That's the one. Ahhh Mama Mia!
>Great movie, Was funny to see him getting married again in Father of the
>Bride. Best car scene in "It Takes Two" was the Countach spinning on the
>back of the wrecker like a fish.
I remember. In fact I asked the guy if that was the real car swinging
around back there and he confirmed that it was.
>Don't have any info on the car at the moment. Could ask the transportation
>coordinator from that film and find out which replica company they used. The
>cars looked the same to me as the ones used in "Speed Zone" (Cannonball Run
>3 in Japan)
I agree. Speaking of which, how many cars did they use in SZ? I know for
sure they used at least two red ones (posing as the same car) because
they had different ass ends, and the one they used for stunts almost
looked like a short wheelbase model. Then there was a scene with a black
car in that movie, but I only remember seeing it once.
> The car did look fairly accurate once you overlooked the
>sunroof. Kit Car Illustrated publishes a list of manufacturers and their
>addresses. You could pick one up and see if you recognize any of the Texas
>manufacturers. Did the film credits list the manufacturer? I have a copy of
>the film and could check it out in the next day or so and get you that
>information.
I have it on tape too, so I'll check. I didn't think to check before. SZ
didn't list the builder.
>I have found that Euroworks produces some of the most accurate, well built
>cars, but I once had a bad experience with them. That was a long time ago
>and I would hope that they have corrected the problems by now.
That's what I've heard, so I am looking at possibly just buying a turnkey
from them, or maybe a good used one built by them. What problem did you
have with them?
Since you seem very knowledgeable in this area, what do you know about
the Pantera used in the movie "Cannonball"? If you're not familiar, that
was the entire title. It wasn't "Cannonball Run" yada yada, just
"Cannonball" with David Carradine and Stacy Keach (I think). To my
knowledge, it was the first of the modern cross-country rally type
movies to be made. The reason I'm curious, is that I own a Pantera L like
the one in the movie, and it's even the same color, AND I know it's an
original California car. Do you have any history on the car? Do you know
what kind of mockup they used in the explosion scene?
74Pantera
BTW, just went to your web site. The LandMaster KICKS ASS!
A long time ago, I searched for WEEKS to find a copy of Damnation
Alley, just so I could check out the LandMasters. :-)
Is it still in one piece? It kinda looked like the vehicle from
Ark II. Any connections?
Paul Sher Jr.
You have got to be the only other person on the planet that remembers Ark
II. I loved that show. Wasn't the landmaster though. Can't find anyone from
Sid and Marty Kroft's production department to hunt down that vehicle. For
awhile, I was quite convinced that they cut it up to make "Supertrain"
remember that show. I am sure that they eventually cut up Supertrain for use
in Star Trek the Motion Picture as the Starfleet Shuttle. This may be the
fate of Ark II.
The Landmaster still runs. It is still amphibious, those fantastic
Tri-wheels still function, and it still gets about 2 gallons to the mile. My
partner is infatuated with it and we are trying to work out the ridiculous
expense of putting it on a "wide load" flatbed and trucking it to the east
coast. The shipping expense is almost as much as the Landmaster itself. If
you stop by Dean Jeffries place off the 101 by the entrance to the Hollywood
Bowl, you will still see it out front with a FOR SALE sign on it. He rents
it from time to time, but at the moment, it is badly in need of a new paint
job.
I'll have a lot more info on it in my FOR SALE section, but I am switching
web design companies and am patiently waiting for the new webmasters to
begin.
As for the Pantera... Great car by the way... I have never seen Cannonball,
have run across it in the last few days because we are in possession of the
original molds for the cars from Deathrace 2000 and I am doing a lot of
research that relates to David Carradine as Tom Cruise has expressed a
slight interest in re-making that film.
I have a friend in the Midwest who owns a few Batmobiles and is also a very
knowledgeable Pantera owner, I'm sure he has the answer to your question
about the mock up.
As for SZ it was my understanding that there were 3 cars used. The "puddle
jumper" was a car that was designed specifically for that stunt. The black
car that you saw was actually a clip from the first film.
Do you remember the first film to feature a Black Countach? Parasite
Good choice on the turnkey Countach. I don't wish that project on anyone and
have a great deal of respect for the people who build them successfully and
accurately. The public is brutal on those cars. Euroworks had a red one with
minimal ground effects that they dragged around to shows. That car was
really well built and comfortable to drive. We can take the rest of the
Euroworks discussion outside of this NG.
As for "It Takes Two", Bill Kester or Kustomotor Cars of Amarillo Texas
built the Trovare's by the way. Do you have his number?
Good luck in your quest. Email me direct and we can continue this Countach
conversation.
Paul Sher Jr.
Code One Custom Auto
TV and Movie Cars
www.codeoneauto.com
74Pantera wrote in message <932529550.867082@cacheraq001>...
Paul Sher Jr.
"Wraith" Interceptor called the Wraith II. Their most noticeable adjustment
is the lowering of the rear end for the simple reason that you can't see out
of the back of the film car. This is a most reasonable modification.
Michael was fantastic to talk to and very knowledgeable at his craft. They
have produced a few turnkey cars but will offer kits with one concession.
The donor car must be up to company spec. You won't get away will mounting
their body on a golf cart. Those of you who have spent a lot of quality time
building performance cars will agree with this I'm sure. They are not asking
for Ferrari mechanicals underneath, just something that won't embarrass the
company on the street.
They can be contacted at:
http://members.tripod.com/mcwalkerusa/dalesar.html
My thanks to Brett Benson for providing me with the info to contact them.