How do I remove a power steering pulley?
That_Damn_Kid
other night the power steering bracket broke into hundreds of pieces, and
the alternator which was attached, came loose and also broke. I managed to
get the car home and now I'm going to attempt to fix it. I've never worked
on a car before so please bear with me. I went to the junkyard and got a
new bracket and a new alternator. The problem is I need to remove the
power steering pulley to get what's left of the old bracket off. Someone
told me I need to rent a "puller" from Autozone for $40. Is this correct?
And if so, is this something that requires alot of knowledge to use? If I
thought I could get the car to my mechanic, I'd try. But I don't think I'd
make it, and I'd prefer to avoid a tow charge.
Me
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FBR
Call your local machine shop to see what they would charge to remove it,
replace the bracket, and then press the pulley back on. It's probably less
than the $40. I can't recall ever seeing one you couldn't just replace the
bracket on though. Never had to pull a pulley.
Pic of tool here;
http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/ShopCart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_CAT501_pg6.htm
Refinish King
If I'm not mistaken, the brand that they sell that is the less expensive
brand, named; "OEM" $24.95 and lifetime guarenteed.
But then again, I could be mistaken, but I just bought a nice set of the
blue comfort grip screwdrivers, for my road service box.
The pulley is easy to remove and replace, if you follow the instructions in
the package of the remover, and have atleast the basic requirements of hand
tools. Some alternators and A.I.R. pumps need the tool also.
If you're considering doing you're own work, it would be a good investment.
Refinish King
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Charles Bendig
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You first need to remove the center bolt from the pulley, before
attempting to pull it. Once that is done, the puller should have 2 jaws that
cup over the hub lip on the pulley. With the remover properly inplace,
tighten the center shaft by hand. Then use a wrench and work with care.
After that there should be 3 bolts that hold the pump to the bracket.
I have yet to see the aluminum style brackets shatter. You may want to
check all the bolts for stripped threads, or stripped out bolt holes.
Charles
Charles Bendig
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A few GM serpentine belt vehicles require the pulley to be removed to
access the pump bolts. Some you can fight with for an hour or better and do
it without pulling the pulley. Mostly 86 and up RWD 4.3V6 and V8 cars &
Trucks with serpentine belt accessory drive.
Charles
Bigjfig
>From: "That_Damn_Kid" bro...@yahoo.com
>Date: 4/5/2004 2:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
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Autozone's tool rental program is free, you put your credit card as a deposit
for the tool and it's refunded when you bring the tool back in good working
order and complete.
Best way to go for now. The puller should be fairly cheap to purchase from
Craftsman (Sears) and will have a lifetime warranty.
Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director
'80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig.
'79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig
'84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going....
'80 T/A project car...
Refinish King
Just a thought.
Refinish King
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Bruce Chang
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The pulley is pressed on there and there is no center bolt. You will need
to rent the puller from Autozone. It doesn't take much knowledge to use it,
just attach the puller to the lip on the pulley, then start cranking down on
the bolt that runs down the center of the pulley mechanism. The pulley will
be pressed out.
I've seen a bracket break.. Both the upper alternator ear broke off as well
as the part that receives the alternator bolt that goes through the
alternator lower mount hole. I just replaced mine. If you need a new
bracket, you can get one from any of the sponsors of thirdgen.org. Just go
there and look at the banners. I got mine from thirdgenresource.com. $40,
I think.
-Bruce
Charles Bendig
"Refinish King" <noneofyou...@neveryoumind.nospam.com> wrote in
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> Some bolts might have loosened?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Refinish King
>
Very possible. There is still a lot in GM-land I have yet to see. I know
the old 86-87 Astro van motor plate serpentine belt system brackets were
know for breaking. Usually around the back brace for the power steering
pump, then between the power steering pump and the timing cover. Had it
happen to myself twice.
First time we straightened the bracket out and welded it (stick welded,
with 6011 rods). That lasted over a year, when it was a limp me home patch.
The second time it broke, it was done for. The pump angle towards the crank
over 5 degrees. I ended up with 1 broken bolt, and one stripped bolt hole.
I like the later Astro/S-10 4.3 brackets. Cast Aluminum. Alternator and
power steering pump on the same side. Tensioner mounted off the right side
bracket. AC and smog off the left side (IE not important to limp home). That
that set up and put it on any old small block, with the proper water pump,
and you have a budget Serpentine set up. Much, Much cheaper then the
conversion kits they sell thru Jegs or Summit. Not to mention most parts
stores and salvage yards have the replacement parts in stock.
Charles
SBlackfoot
and
> power steering pump on the same side.
The biggest PITA with that setup is a steel bracket running from behind the
PS pump, up around the exhaust manifold (trapped under the bolts for #1),
and up to the back of the alternator. Because of that bloody bracket you
actually have to go so far as to remove the PS pump pulley (with the puller
in question) and unbolt the pump just to remove the damn exhaust manifold.
Ask me how I know... lol
As a side note, is the PS pump supposed to have a retaining bolt or is it
just pressed on? The one in my lil Jimmy doesn't have the bolt, although the
threads are half-stripped (making the pulley job so much more fun) so who
knows that it has been through in the past. I'll have to check the GTA for
curiousity's sake when I pull it out later in the spring.
Bruce Chang
"SBlackfoot" <tryp...@sympatico.remove.ca> wrote in message
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It's not supposed to have a bolt. The threads down the shaft of the PS pump
are for the installer. If you get a power steering pump, it shoudl come
with an installation tool. Of course the tool that you can borrow from
Autozone comes with a better installation tool.
-Bruce
Charles Bendig
"SBlackfoot" <tryp...@sympatico.remove.ca> wrote in message
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Some GM RWD power steering pumps have a center bolt some do not. I once
forgot to remove one on an 87 Safari Van. The pump shaft was broken, and
came out with the pulley. If I had been installing a new pump that required
the old pulley, I might have been cursing. As luck would have it, I was
installing a used pump.
As for the brace, We have adapted them before.
Charles
Refinish King
LOL
I was suggesting some bolts loosened on the bracket, causing it to break.
Refinish King
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Refinish King
and a valve job on an all wheel drive Astro was a picnic I never want to go
on again, it took a day to remember how to reinstall all the steel brackets.
LOL
Refinish King
PS
If I would have flat rated that job, I would have to eaten at the food bank
with my ex wife and daughter for a week.
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Bruce Chang
> I never said the pulley had a center bolt!
>
> LOL
>
> I was suggesting some bolts loosened on the bracket, causing it to break.
>
> Refinish King
>
I never said you did.. Charles did though..
Bigjfig
>From: "Refinish King" noneofyou...@neveryoumind.nospam.com
>Date: 4/7/2004 2:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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King:
A simple call to a GM dealer's parts department would have yielded an exploded
view from the parts book which would have been good enough (in all probability)
to jog your memory as to how it went :).
That_Damn_Kid
the bracket. I've also got the new bracket installed. Now my problem is
re-installing the pulley. I've read the back of the puller box and I still
can't figure it out. Can anyone help with this? Thanks in advance.