The Source of Misery
Jahnu
An intelligent person does not take part in the sources of misery,
which are due to contact with the material senses. O son of Kunti,
such pleasures have a beginning and an end, and so the wise man does
not delight in them. (Bg. 5.22)
Purport by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Material sense pleasures are due to the contact of the material
senses, which are all temporary because the body itself is temporary.
A liberated soul is not interested in anything which is temporary.
Knowing well the joys of transcendental pleasures, how can a liberated
soul agree to enjoy false pleasure? In the Padma Purana it is said:
"The mystics derive unlimited transcendental pleasures from the
Absolute Truth, and therefore the Supreme Absolute Truth, the
Personality of Godhead, is also known as Rama."
In the Srimad-Bhgavatam also (5.5.1) it is said:
"My dear sons, there is no reason to labor very hard for sense
pleasure while in this human form of life; such pleasures are
available to the stool-eaters [hogs]. Rather, you should undergo
penances in this life by which your existence will be purified, and as
a result you will be able to enjoy unlimited transcendental bliss."
Therefore, those who are true yogIs or learned transcendentalists are
not attracted by sense pleasures, which are the causes of continuous
material existence. The more one is addicted to material pleasures,
the more he is entrapped by material miseries.
Masked Avenger
> Krishna says:
>
> the sources of misery,
Jahnu's posts ............. repeated ad infinitum ......
same old Krishna crap ......... as if anyone takes the slightest
interest in it ......
--
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....
Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
Does Schrödinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
Jahnu
> Jahnu's posts ............. repeated ad infinitum ......
> same old Krishna crap ......... as if anyone takes the slightest
> interest in it ......
Feel free to ignore me. But you don't. You have to moan and whine
about the truth. It's like a dog barking at a stranger it's not
familiar with. Similarly atheists bark at anything that is not in
accordance with the garbage they grew up with in the Coca-culture.
Krishna says:
One whose happiness is within, who is active and rejoices within, and
whose aim is inward is actually the perfect mystic. He is liberated in
the Supreme, and ultimately he attains the Supreme. (Bg. 5.24)
Inertial
news:d3b59087-1d6c-407e...@w15g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>
>Krishna
Yeup .. that's a source of misery
Shabooboo Krishna Update
e0b385...@l32g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
Jahnu does not act out of happiness.
See what drives him:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.vaisnava/msg/8dbd512fbc4c5a84
*- Shabooboo Krishna Update -*
Jahnu
<bark bark>
Krishna says:
Those who are beyond the dualities that arise from doubts, whose minds
are engaged within, who are always busy working for the welfare of all
living beings, and who are free from all sins achieve liberation in
the Supreme. (Bg. 5.25)
Jahnu
wrote:
<snip the barking dog>
Krishna says:
Those who are free from anger and all material desires, who are self-
realized, self-disciplined and constantly endeavoring for perfection,
are assured of liberation in the Supreme in the very near future. (Bg.
5.26)
Shabooboo Krishna Update
b6f301...@z30g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> On Aug 29, 5:15 pm, Shabooboo Krishna Update <nos...@nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
> <snip the barking dog>
>
> Krishna says:
>
> Those who are free from anger...
Careful! The barking dog just told you something useful and you missed it.
Jahnu
wrote:
<bowwow>
Krishna says:
A person in full consciousness of Me, knowing Me to be the ultimate
beneficiary of all sacrifices and austerities, the Supreme Lord of all
planets and demigods, and the benefactor and well-wisher of all living
entities, attains peace from the pangs of material miseries. (Bg.
5.29)
David Canzi
If you're frequently posting to the internet to have your words
read by others, then your aim is not inward.
To make your usual method of ignoring reality easier, I provide
these words for your convenience:
bark bark
--
David Canzi | "If the human mind were simple enough for us to understand,
| we would be too simple-minded to understand it." -- anonymous
Steve Knight
wrote:
> Similarly atheists bark at anything that is not in
>accordance with the garbage they grew up with in the Coca-culture.
sniff.. sniff..
Raises leg, pisses on Jespers foot.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
DanielSan
Jahnu should really get an umbrella for the rain.
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DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226
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"The Old Testament is responsible for more atheism, agnosticism,
disbelief-call it what you will-than any book ever written; it has
emptied more churches than all the counterattractions of cinema, motor
bicycle and golf course." -- a.a. milne
Jahnu
> If you're frequently posting to the internet to have your words
> read by others, then your aim is not inward.
It is. To write about the Absolute Truth gives an inner pleasure in
the mind, that comes from satisfying Krishna.
> To make your usual method of ignoring reality easier, I provide
> these words for your convenience:
Thank you. But as you can see, I know reality. I have a definition of
reality and illusion, you don't.
Krishna says:
Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
nonexistent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
studying the nature of both. (Bg. 2.16)
DanielSan
> On Aug 29, 11:35 pm, dmca...@remulak.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi) wrote:
>
>> If you're frequently posting to the internet to have your words
>> read by others, then your aim is not inward.
>
> It is. To write about the Absolute Truth gives an inner pleasure in
> the mind, that comes from satisfying Krishna.
Ignorance is bliss.
Jim Austin
> Krishna says:
>
> An intelligent person does not take part in the sources of misery,
> which are due to contact with the material senses.
This guy seeks to avoid misery through death.
<Snip> The rest.
Jahnu
> This guy seeks to avoid misery through death.
Wrong. Only atheists think that death is an escape from misery. That's
why so many of them commit suicide.
Krishna says:
Whatever state of being one remembers when he quits his body, O son of
Kunti, that state he will attain without fail. (Bg. 8.6)
Jahnu
<dog going balistic, bowowowowowowow>
Krishna says:
That understanding which considers irreligion to be religion and
religion to be irreligion, under the spell of illusion and darkness,
and strives always in the wrong direction, O Pärtha, is in the mode of
ignorance. (Bg. 18.32)
JayPee Vee
> On Aug 30, 5:30 am, Jim Austin <b...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > This guy seeks to avoid misery through death.
>
> Wrong. Only atheists think that death is an escape from misery. That's
> why so many of them commit suicide.
False.
Stop lying, you make little Krishna cry.
JayPee Vee
>
> <dog going balistic, bowowowowowowow>
If you don't want to discuss and defend your point of view, why do you
send your rubbish to alt.atheism then?
I'll tell you why: because you're a troll.
Krishna says:
Troll are idiots.
Jahnu
> False.
> Stop lying, you make little Krishna cry.
Krishna says:
Having obtained real knowledge from a self-realized soul, you will
never fall again into such illusion, for by this knowledge you will
see that all living beings are but part of the Supreme, or, in other
words, that they are Mine. (Bg. 4.35)
Jahnu
> If you don't want to discuss and defend your point of view, why do you
> send your rubbish to alt.atheism then?
> I'll tell you why: because you're a troll.
As you can see from my history here I don't mind at all discussing and
defending my point of view. But I am not wasting time on brain-dead
commentaries, moaning and whining, bickering and retard denials.
Krishba says:
Even if you are considered to be the most sinful of all sinners, when
you are situated in the boat of transcendental knowledge you will be
able to cross over the ocean of miseries. (Bg. 4.36)
As a blazing fire turns firewood to ashes, O Arjuna, so does the fire
of knowledge burn to ashes all reactions to material activities. (Bg.
4.37)
DanielSan
> On Aug 30, 10:15 am, JayPee Vee<jaypee1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you don't want to discuss and defend your point of view, why do you
>> send your rubbish to alt.atheism then?
>> I'll tell you why: because you're a troll.
>
> As you can see from my history here I don't mind at all discussing and
> defending my point of view.
No, you don't. When I tried to get you to defend your point of view,
you went all loony tunes on me and ended up ignoring everything I typed.
Jahnu
> No, you don't. When I tried to get you to defend your point of view,
> you went all loony tunes on me and ended up ignoring everything I typed.
It requires rational, thoughtful people to have a decent conversation.
That excludes you. You are exceptionally moronic and dense.
Krishna says:
In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental
knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism. And
one who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service
enjoys this knowledge within himself in due course of time. (Bg. 4.38)
DanielSan
> On Aug 30, 3:20 pm, DanielSan<daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>> No, you don't. When I tried to get you to defend your point of view,
>> you went all loony tunes on me and ended up ignoring everything I typed.
>
> It requires rational, thoughtful people to have a decent conversation.
> That excludes you. You are exceptionally moronic and dense.
Like I said, you don't defend your point of view. You insult when
someone questions you.
Jahnu
<bowwow>
Krishna says:
A faithful man who is dedicated to transcendental knowledge and who
subdues his senses is eligible to achieve such knowledge, and having
achieved it he quickly attains the supreme spiritual peace.(Bg. 4.39)
DanielSan
> On Aug 30, 3:29 pm, DanielSan<daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> <bowwow>
Like I said. Loony tunes. You can't defend your view.
Jahnu
> Like I said. Loony tunes. You can't defend your view.
Krishna says:
But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures
do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. For the doubting soul
there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. (Bg. 4.40)
DanielSan
Therefore the doubts which have arisen in your heart out of ignorance
should be slashed by the weapon of knowledge. Armed with yoga, O
Bhārata, stand and fight. (Bg. 4.42)
You aren't willing to stand and fight with a weapon of knowledge, Jahnu.
Jahnu
> You aren't willing to stand and fight with a weapon of knowledge, Jahnu.
Krishna says:
He who discards scriptural injunctions and acts according to his own
whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme
destination. (Bg. 16.23)
DanielSan
I totally agree.
Jahnu
> I totally agree.
Krishna says:
Now hear, O son of Pritha, how by practicing yoga in full
consciousness of Me, with mind attached to Me, you can know Me in
full, free from doubt. (Bg. 7.1)
DanielSan
And, since you aren't willing to follow Krishna, you will never attain
the supreme destination.
How sad for you.
Masked Avenger
>> If you don't want to discuss and defend your point of view, why do you
>> send your rubbish to alt.atheism then?
>> I'll tell you why: because you're a troll.
>
> I am not wasting time on brain-dead commentaries
>
but you are ...... in fact you are responsible for producing most of the
brain dead commentaries .........
--
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....
Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
Does Schrödinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
JayPee Vee
> On Aug 30, 10:15 am, JayPee Vee <jaypee1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If you don't want to discuss and defend your point of view, why do you
> > send your rubbish to alt.atheism then?
> > I'll tell you why: because you're a troll.
>
> As you can see from my history here I don't mind at all discussing and
> defending my point of view.
There's no point of view to defend. All you ever do is answer with
"Krishna says" which isn't "discussing".
But I am not wasting time on brain-dead
> commentaries, moaning and whining, bickering and retard denials.
Why do you keep posting to a discussion group where you are clearly
not wanted then?!?
Because you're a masochist or because you're a troll?
JayPee Vee
> On Aug 30, 3:29 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> <bowwow>
If you don't want to discuss and defend your point of view, cuntface,
why do you
send your rubbish to alt.atheism then?
I'll tell you why: because you're a troll.
Krishna says:
Troll are idiots.
Bob T.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_(novel)
- Bob T
Jahnu
Jahnu
<some worthless nonsense intended to annoy>
Krishna says:
My dear Arjuna, because you are never envious of Me, I shall impart to
you this most confidential knowledge and realization, knowing which
you shall be relieved of the miseries of material existence. (Bg. 9.1)
This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all
secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct
perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of
religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed. (Bg. 9.2)
Steve Knight
That's right, Jesper. Krishner kills a kitten every time you lie.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Yoda says:
"War does not make one great."
Steve Knight
wrote:
>On Aug 30, 3:20 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>> No, you don't. When I tried to get you to defend your point of view,
>> you went all loony tunes on me and ended up ignoring everything I typed.
>
>It requires rational, thoughtful people to have a decent conversation.
>That excludes you. You are exceptionally moronic and dense.
Translation - You have to openly agree with everything I say
regardless of facts or evidence. Just shut up and agree.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Yoda says:
"When all choices seem wrong, choose restraint."
Jahnu
> That's right, Jesper. Krishner kills a kitten every time you lie.
Krishna says:
Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My
transcendental nature as the Supreme Lord of all that be. (Bg. 9.11)
Jim Austin
> On Aug 30, 5:30 am, Jim Austin <b...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > This guy seeks to avoid misery through death.
>
> Wrong. Only atheists think that death is an escape from misery.
This guy defines misery as life per se.
> That's why so many of them commit suicide.
A consistent exponent of this guy's belief would check out, off
himself, commit suicide. For him to continue to live is hypocrisy and
moral duplicity.
> Krishna says:
>
> Whatever state of being one remembers when he quits his body, O son of
> Kunti, that state he will attain without fail. (Bg. 8.6)
To quit your body is to die.
Jahnu
<bow wow wow wow>
Krishna says:
Those who are thus bewildered are attracted by demonic and atheistic
views. In that deluded condition, their hopes for liberation, their
fruitive activities, and their culture of knowledge are all defeated.
(Bg. 9.12)
Go America!
America shall rise!
JessHC
Jahnu wrote:
> On Aug 30, 11:02 pm, JessHC <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
>
> <some worthless nonsense intended to annoy>
>
> K
Hasn't become any less annoying or nonsensical.
Steve Knight
wrote:
>On Aug 31, 5:58 am, Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> That's right, Jesper. Krishner kills a kitten every time you lie.
>
>Krishna says:
>
>Fools ride Me when I rip my cloths off and descend in the human
> form. They do not know My shemale transcendental nature
> as the Supreme Lord of all that be. (Bg. 9.11)
Fixed it for you.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA