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Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
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Mattb
Feb 27, 2020, 8:50:08 PM2/27/20
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Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/seattle-socialism-city-council-faction-pushes-new-taxes-regulations/
Democratic socialists are in the middle of a hostile takeover of the
Democratic Party. Led by the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign and
the “squad” of newly elected congresswomen, the hard-left coalition
has laid out an ambitious agenda to transform the United States into a
democratic socialist nation. While many commentators have dismissed
the rhetoric around the Green New Deal, Housing for All, and End Cash
Bail as pie-in-the-sky abstraction, in Seattle, the socialist
coalition is quickly translating this agenda into a political reality.
After the socialist Left’s stunning victory over business-backed
moderates in last year’s municipal elections, Seattle has effectively
become the nation’s laboratory for socialist policies. Since the
beginning of the year, the socialist faction on the Seattle City
Council has proposed a range of policies on taxes, housing,
homelessness, and criminal justice that put into practice the national
democratic-socialist agenda. In the most recent session, socialist
councilwoman Kshama Sawant and her allies have proposed massive new
taxes on corporations, unprecedented regulations on landlords
(including rent control and a ban on “winter evictions”), the mandated
construction of homeless encampments, and the gradual dismantling of
the criminal justice system, beginning with the end of cash bail.
Seattle’s socialists have established a narrative that provides the
rhetorical basis for their policies. They argue that the
corporate-technological elite, led by companies such as Amazon, has
hoarded the rewards of the digital economy and created widespread
misery for workers, renters, and people of color. As Seattle-based
commentator and Marxist theoretician Charles Mudede has written: “We
are in the 21st century. We are in one of the richest cities on earth.
And yet, the old war between those who employ labor and those who sell
their labor is still very much with us.”
...
But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
“democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban on corporate
spending in local elections by companies like Amazon. At the same
time, black-bloc activists and Antifa militants intimidate any
potential opposition by disrupting events, vandalizing homes, and even
orchestrating death threats against political adversaries.
********
This is what Bernie wants for all the USA?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/02/seattle-socialism-city-council-faction-pushes-new-taxes-regulations/
Democratic socialists are in the middle of a hostile takeover of the
Democratic Party. Led by the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign and
the “squad” of newly elected congresswomen, the hard-left coalition
has laid out an ambitious agenda to transform the United States into a
democratic socialist nation. While many commentators have dismissed
the rhetoric around the Green New Deal, Housing for All, and End Cash
Bail as pie-in-the-sky abstraction, in Seattle, the socialist
coalition is quickly translating this agenda into a political reality.
After the socialist Left’s stunning victory over business-backed
moderates in last year’s municipal elections, Seattle has effectively
become the nation’s laboratory for socialist policies. Since the
beginning of the year, the socialist faction on the Seattle City
Council has proposed a range of policies on taxes, housing,
homelessness, and criminal justice that put into practice the national
democratic-socialist agenda. In the most recent session, socialist
councilwoman Kshama Sawant and her allies have proposed massive new
taxes on corporations, unprecedented regulations on landlords
(including rent control and a ban on “winter evictions”), the mandated
construction of homeless encampments, and the gradual dismantling of
the criminal justice system, beginning with the end of cash bail.
Seattle’s socialists have established a narrative that provides the
rhetorical basis for their policies. They argue that the
corporate-technological elite, led by companies such as Amazon, has
hoarded the rewards of the digital economy and created widespread
misery for workers, renters, and people of color. As Seattle-based
commentator and Marxist theoretician Charles Mudede has written: “We
are in the 21st century. We are in one of the richest cities on earth.
And yet, the old war between those who employ labor and those who sell
their labor is still very much with us.”
...
But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
“democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban on corporate
spending in local elections by companies like Amazon. At the same
time, black-bloc activists and Antifa militants intimidate any
potential opposition by disrupting events, vandalizing homes, and even
orchestrating death threats against political adversaries.
********
This is what Bernie wants for all the USA?
Yap Honghor
Feb 27, 2020, 9:12:25 PM2/27/20
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On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 9:50:08 AM UTC+8, Mattb wrote:
> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
Socialism is a system for vast majority of people, although it does not promote money as the sole incentive for people who work harder to climb the social status. Capitalism is the opposite, with a few very rich controlling you!
> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
Mitchell Holman
Feb 27, 2020, 9:47:10 PM2/27/20
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Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
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decided by big out of state corporations
throwing lots of money around? Why?
news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
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> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
> by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
> “democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
> and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban on corporate
> spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
You think local elections SHOULD be
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> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
> by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
> “democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
> and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban on corporate
> spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
decided by big out of state corporations
throwing lots of money around? Why?
Mattb
Feb 27, 2020, 9:49:38 PM2/27/20
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Matt Singer
Feb 27, 2020, 9:49:49 PM2/27/20
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kry...@gmail.com
Feb 28, 2020, 12:27:07 AM2/28/20
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In Democracy, elected officials run the government for keeping individual freedom, safety, justice. These officials owe their position and are accountable to the public.
If a small group of unelected people and accountable to no one runs the government for their own self interest, is it still a democracy ?
While the ideal of democracy does not exist 100%, it is a good reference and something to compare to. The question is how far are we from that.
There are more realistic models, that still give the public an influence, and make the government somewhat accountable to the public.
The question is how much power do the strong men have, the party bosses, the mafia heads, the religious leaders, the ultra rich , etc.
Of course the whole idea is to limit their power. Note that this is a difficult struggle.
KRYOEL
If a small group of unelected people and accountable to no one runs the government for their own self interest, is it still a democracy ?
While the ideal of democracy does not exist 100%, it is a good reference and something to compare to. The question is how far are we from that.
There are more realistic models, that still give the public an influence, and make the government somewhat accountable to the public.
The question is how much power do the strong men have, the party bosses, the mafia heads, the religious leaders, the ultra rich , etc.
Of course the whole idea is to limit their power. Note that this is a difficult struggle.
KRYOEL
Don Martin
Feb 28, 2020, 7:28:04 AM2/28/20
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>Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
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>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
>>
>news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
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>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
>>
>> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
>> by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>> “democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
>> and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban on corporate
>> spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>
> You think local elections SHOULD be
>decided by big out of state corporations
>throwing lots of money around? Why?
It's the Republican way of consolidating their power.
>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
>> by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>> “democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
>> and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban on corporate
>> spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>
> You think local elections SHOULD be
>decided by big out of state corporations
>throwing lots of money around? Why?
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JTEM
Feb 28, 2020, 7:42:53 AM2/28/20
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Mattb wrote:
> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
> by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
> “democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
> and socialist groups;
You're an idiot.
> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor: first,
> by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
> “democracy vouchers,” which are easily collected by unions, activists,
> and socialist groups;
The money can't go to such groups. The only real fault with the system
is that it is in a sense a vote. In other words, the person with the largest
number of supporters gets the most vouchers... so why not skip the
vouchers and just call them votes?
You know, "Democracy."
But, in short, it's public finance ala "Matching Funds" only far more
democratically. It's more-people-means-more-money instead of
more-money-means-more-money.
> and second, by implementing a ban on corporate
> spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
Look. Everyone has the right to vote. Everyone has the right to
contribute to campaigns up to a legal limit. NOBODY should
be given bonus rights ABOVE & BEYOND EVERYONE ELSE
just because they control a corporation.
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Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 9:07:30 AM2/28/20
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Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ssvg5fljemo88pdvu...@4ax.com:
They not voters, they don't even
reside in the city. Why does their
corporate opinion matter?
news:ssvg5fljemo88pdvu...@4ax.com:
reside in the city. Why does their
corporate opinion matter?
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 9:11:20 AM2/28/20
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Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
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Amazon is a Delaware corporation.
https://tinyurl.com/uq99h5e
news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
https://tinyurl.com/uq99h5e
BeamMeUpScotty
Feb 28, 2020, 11:36:02 AM2/28/20
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On 2/28/20 9:11 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
>
>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
> Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
>
>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>
Russia China Cuba Venezuela are all experiments, and all look to be
deadly serious and they end badly but the real crime isn't the end it's
the suffering while they exist.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
>>>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor:
>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>>>> “democracy vouchers,†which are easily collected by unions,
>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor:
>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban
>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
>>> decided by big out of state corporations
>>
And a BIG question is whether that eans they banned GEORGE SOROS and
>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
>>> decided by big out of state corporations
>>
band of Merry Marxists from spending money on their Seattle Elections.
My guess is that like Hillary NOT being prosecuted the Socialists and
Marxists will be able to funnel money to their candidates without being
prosecuted but like Dinesh D`souza and General Flynn, supporting a
Republican will get you arrested and they'll pick apart your life until
they can lock you up for something whether you did it or NOT.
>> Amazon is headquartered in Seattle and has huge facilities there.
>>
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> Amazon is a Delaware corporation.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/uq99h5e
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>
That's Karma
*Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 2:32:50 PM2/28/20
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Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ssvg5fljemo88pdvu...@4ax.com:
They are companies, not people. They don't
vote but they have a right buy votes?
news:ssvg5fljemo88pdvu...@4ax.com:
vote but they have a right buy votes?
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 2:38:12 PM2/28/20
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Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
And even if they WERE "headquartered"
in Seattle they do not vote there. What
right do they have to influence elections
there?
Mattb
Feb 28, 2020, 2:44:59 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 08:07:22 -0600, Mitchell Holman
You are correct they should all move to where they matter and leave
Seattle.
All major companies should consider leaving liberal cities.
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Seattle.
All major companies should consider leaving liberal cities.
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Mattb
Feb 28, 2020, 3:33:31 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:32:43 -0600, Mitchell Holman
They have a right to have opinions. Then they also have the right
to leave Seattle.
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to leave Seattle.
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Cloud Hobbit
Feb 28, 2020, 4:48:06 PM2/28/20
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Mitchell Holman said:
> They are companies, not people. They don't
vote but they have a right buy votes?
It has been demonstrated that more money does not translate to more votes. If it did Arians Huffington's ex husband would have been elected.
> They are companies, not people. They don't
vote but they have a right buy votes?
Corporations are considered as persons under law.
Companies like Amazon employ thousands of people and if a law passed or being considered by a city government affects their bottom line, they have the right to try and sway public opinion. Seattle has tried to use such companies as cash cows. It won't work. If taxation becomes oppressive, they can move to another city and employ new people and screw the ones left behind.
When Boeing was told they couldn't build an SST plane, it caused so much unemployment that there were billboards reading "Last person to leave Seattle, please turn out the lights."
The city government of Seattle is treading on dangerous ground.
Mattb
Feb 28, 2020, 6:42:24 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:38:04 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
>news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
>
>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
>>>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor:
>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>>>> “democracy vouchers,�€? which are easily collected by unions,
<noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
>Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
>news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
>
>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
>>>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor:
>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban
>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
>>> decided by big out of state corporations
>>
>> Amazon is headquartered in Seattle and has huge facilities there.
>>
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> Amazon is based in Delaware.
>
> And even if they WERE "headquartered"
>in Seattle they do not vote there. What
>right do they have to influence elections
>there?
They have the right to leave and take the jobs and tax base with
>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
>>> decided by big out of state corporations
>>
>> Amazon is headquartered in Seattle and has huge facilities there.
>>
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> Amazon is based in Delaware.
>
> And even if they WERE "headquartered"
>in Seattle they do not vote there. What
>right do they have to influence elections
>there?
them.
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Yap Honghor
Feb 28, 2020, 9:17:58 PM2/28/20
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On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 12:36:02 AM UTC+8, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 2/28/20 9:11 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> > news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
> >
> >> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> >>>
> >>>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
> >>>>
>
> Russia China Cuba Venezuela are all experiments, and all look to be
> deadly serious and they end badly but the real crime isn't the end it's
> the suffering while they exist.
So, the people in those countries are suffering?
> On 2/28/20 9:11 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> > news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
> >
> >> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> >>>
> >>>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
> >>>>
>
> Russia China Cuba Venezuela are all experiments, and all look to be
> deadly serious and they end badly but the real crime isn't the end it's
> the suffering while they exist.
But you choose not to help except sanction...they know your kindness!!!!
> >>>> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
> >>>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
> >>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor:
> >>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
> >>>> “democracy vouchers,†which are easily collected by unions,
> >>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban
> >>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You think local elections SHOULD be
> >>> decided by big out of state corporations
> >>
>
>
> And a BIG question is whether that eans they banned GEORGE SOROS and
> band of Merry Marxists from spending money on their Seattle Elections.
>
> My guess is that like Hillary NOT being prosecuted the Socialists and
> Marxists will be able to funnel money to their candidates without being
> prosecuted but like Dinesh D`souza and General Flynn, supporting a
> Republican will get you arrested and they'll pick apart your life until
> they can lock you up for something whether you did it or NOT.
When Trump gets away from his cheating (the Trump University selling fake degree, remember?), you lock onto Hillary with nothing?
> My guess is that like Hillary NOT being prosecuted the Socialists and
> Marxists will be able to funnel money to their candidates without being
> prosecuted but like Dinesh D`souza and General Flynn, supporting a
> Republican will get you arrested and they'll pick apart your life until
> they can lock you up for something whether you did it or NOT.
> That's Karma
>
> *Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 9:19:15 PM2/28/20
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Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:jbri5f5um1cnboi6e...@4ax.com:
They should move to conservative cities, like, uh.......
news:jbri5f5um1cnboi6e...@4ax.com:
Yap Honghor
Feb 28, 2020, 9:20:21 PM2/28/20
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If you dislike liberalism, you should leave those cities instead!
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 9:20:45 PM2/28/20
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Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:j6ui5f1cqiq2b1b8r...@4ax.com:
Better yet let Mitt Romney just break
them up and send the pieces abroad.
news:j6ui5f1cqiq2b1b8r...@4ax.com:
them up and send the pieces abroad.
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 9:25:50 PM2/28/20
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Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:729218a1-693a-44e3...@googlegroups.com:
Funny that when companies like Boeing DO
relocate is always to places like Chicago or
Austin, not "free market paradises" like
Mississippi or Louisiana or Montana.
news:729218a1-693a-44e3...@googlegroups.com:
relocate is always to places like Chicago or
Austin, not "free market paradises" like
Mississippi or Louisiana or Montana.
LinuxGal
Feb 28, 2020, 9:27:58 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, Mattb wrote:
> All major companies should consider leaving liberal cities.
There's a reason why you find Microsoft and Amazon and
> All major companies should consider leaving liberal cities.
T-Mobile headquartered in the Seattle, Washington area and
not in the Booger Holler, Arkansas area. Home schooling
isn't the main stream of education here.
--
I have spoken.
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal
Matt Singer
Feb 28, 2020, 9:39:09 PM2/28/20
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On 2/28/2020 11:38 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
>
>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Seattle Is Socialism’s Laboratory, and It’s Not Pretty
> Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
>
>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> But Seattle’s socialists have gone one step further. In order to
>>>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists have
>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor:
>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>>>> “democracy vouchers,†which are easily collected by unions,
>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own favor:
>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in taxpayer-funded
>>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by implementing a ban
>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
>>> decided by big out of state corporations
>>
>> Amazon is headquartered in Seattle and has huge facilities there.
>>
>
>
> Amazon is based in Delaware.
That's where they are incorporated, not "based." That is not where the
>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like Amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
>>> decided by big out of state corporations
>>
>> Amazon is headquartered in Seattle and has huge facilities there.
>>
>
>
> Amazon is based in Delaware.
business headquarters is. It is in Seattle. That's where Amazon is based.
> And even if they WERE "headquartered"
> in Seattle they do not vote there. What
> right do they have to influence elections
> there?
for candidates.) They have the right to spend money to oppose ballot
measures and other laws that harm their interests. That's a good thing.
Ted
Feb 28, 2020, 9:45:29 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:17:55 -0800 (PST), Yap Honghor
<hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 12:36:02 AM UTC+8, BeamMeUpScotty
wrote:
> > On 2/28/20 9:11 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> > > news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
> > >
> > >> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > >>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > >>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Seattle Is Socialism†s Laboratory, and It =
<hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, February 29, 2020 at 12:36:02 AM UTC+8, BeamMeUpScotty
wrote:
> > On 2/28/20 9:11 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> > > news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
> > >
> > >> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > >>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > >>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> > >>>
> € s Not Pretty
> > >>>>
> >
> > Russia China Cuba Venezuela are all experiments, and all look to
be
> > deadly serious and they end badly but the real crime isn't the
end it's
> > the suffering while they exist.
> So, the people in those countries are suffering?
> But you choose not to help except sanction...they know your
kindness!!!!
> > >>>> But Seattle†s socialists have gone one step f=
> >
> > Russia China Cuba Venezuela are all experiments, and all look to
be
> > deadly serious and they end badly but the real crime isn't the
end it's
> > the suffering while they exist.
> So, the people in those countries are suffering?
> But you choose not to help except sanction...they know your
kindness!!!!
> urther. In order to
> > >>>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists
have
> > >>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own
favor:
> > >>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in
taxpayer-funded
> > >>>> “democracy vouchers,†which are e=
> > >>>> consolidate their newfound power, the progressive-socialists
have
> > >>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own
favor:
> > >>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in
taxpayer-funded
> asily collected by unions,
> > >>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by implementing
a ban
> > >>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like
Amazon.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You think local elections SHOULD be
> > >>> decided by big out of state corporations
> > >>
> >
> >
> > And a BIG question is whether that eans they banned GEORGE SOROS
and
> > band of Merry Marxists from spending money on their Seattle
Elections.
> Soros is a evil capitalist who tries to damage the economies of any
state h=
> > >>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by implementing
a ban
> > >>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like
Amazon.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> You think local elections SHOULD be
> > >>> decided by big out of state corporations
> > >>
> >
> >
> > And a BIG question is whether that eans they banned GEORGE SOROS
and
> > band of Merry Marxists from spending money on their Seattle
Elections.
> Soros is a evil capitalist who tries to damage the economies of any
> e doesn't like! May the virus catch up with him soon.....
> >
> > My guess is that like Hillary NOT being prosecuted the Socialists
and
> > Marxists will be able to funnel money to their candidates
without being
> > prosecuted but like Dinesh D`souza and General Flynn, supporting a
> > Republican will get you arrested and they'll pick apart your life
until
> > they can lock you up for something whether you did it or NOT.
> When Trump gets away from his cheating (the Trump University
selling fake d=
> >
> > My guess is that like Hillary NOT being prosecuted the Socialists
and
> > Marxists will be able to funnel money to their candidates
without being
> > prosecuted but like Dinesh D`souza and General Flynn, supporting a
> > Republican will get you arrested and they'll pick apart your life
until
> > they can lock you up for something whether you did it or NOT.
> When Trump gets away from his cheating (the Trump University
> egree, remember?), you lock onto Hillary with nothing?
> > That's Karma
> >
> > *Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*
> Liberalism is the savior of a insane world!
LOL
> > That's Karma
> >
> > *Liberalism is unsustainable, self destructive and contradicting*
> Liberalism is the savior of a insane world!
Ted
Feb 28, 2020, 10:08:05 PM2/28/20
to
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:27:20 -0800, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net>
wrote:
my kids were homeschooled and they're all quite successful. Two of
them were even active in sports, because in PA the school districts
had to let homeschooled kids take part in extracurricular
activities.And they were always far advanced in both reading and
math. (They were required to take the standard tests.) And the
homeschool group we belonged to was quite impressive, so I know we
weren't the only ones having success with it.. There was no way I was
gonna let any kid of mine waste countless hours sitting at a desk
listening to lame (at best) bullshit.
wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, Mattb wrote:
> > All major companies should consider leaving liberal cities.
> There's a reason why you find Microsoft and Amazon and
> T-Mobile headquartered in the Seattle, Washington area and
> not in the Booger Holler, Arkansas area. Home schooling
> isn't the main stream of education here.
I hear you, LG, and know what you mean. But I want to point out that
> > All major companies should consider leaving liberal cities.
> There's a reason why you find Microsoft and Amazon and
> T-Mobile headquartered in the Seattle, Washington area and
> not in the Booger Holler, Arkansas area. Home schooling
> isn't the main stream of education here.
my kids were homeschooled and they're all quite successful. Two of
them were even active in sports, because in PA the school districts
had to let homeschooled kids take part in extracurricular
activities.And they were always far advanced in both reading and
math. (They were required to take the standard tests.) And the
homeschool group we belonged to was quite impressive, so I know we
weren't the only ones having success with it.. There was no way I was
gonna let any kid of mine waste countless hours sitting at a desk
listening to lame (at best) bullshit.
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 28, 2020, 10:29:33 PM2/28/20
to
Linuxgal said:
>There's a reason why you find Microsoft and Amazon and
T-Mobile headquartered in the Seattle, Washington area and
not in the Booger Holler, Arkansas area. Home schooling
isn't the main stream of education here.
I suspect the first thing that attracted these companies to move to Washington and the Seattle area is that compared to many other places, land was cheap.
>There's a reason why you find Microsoft and Amazon and
T-Mobile headquartered in the Seattle, Washington area and
not in the Booger Holler, Arkansas area. Home schooling
isn't the main stream of education here.
There is also close proximity to universities and transportation is not, or was not a big problem.
IIRC there is no state income tax, but they have a fairly steep sales tax.
That being said, big corporations are not cash cows for government. Per employee taxes such as the one the city was forced to repeal, are totally unfair. Why should a company have to pay more because it has over a certain number of employees?
Ted
Feb 28, 2020, 10:36:07 PM2/28/20
to
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 28, 2020, 10:47:57 PM2/28/20
to
Ted said:
> No taxes are fair cloud.
If you're paying the government for certain services on a per use basis I don't have a problem.
As a guy who grew up in Seattle and loved it, but didn't know how much until I lived some other places.
Homes were inexpensive, there wasn't a lot of crime, schools were decent, and Seattle Transit could get you anywhere, just not fast.
People seem to have a bit of a problem with taxes as this article from 2017 reveals:
https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/has-seattles-love-affair-with-tax-measures-come-to-an-end/
I have no idea what sort of political viewpoint Seattle Weekly holds, but the guy they're talking to is not from the GOP.
Remember its the state that voted in Dixie Lee Ray as governor. People are nice in the state, but not always good judges of character. Dixie was a character.
> No taxes are fair cloud.
If you're paying the government for certain services on a per use basis I don't have a problem.
As a guy who grew up in Seattle and loved it, but didn't know how much until I lived some other places.
Homes were inexpensive, there wasn't a lot of crime, schools were decent, and Seattle Transit could get you anywhere, just not fast.
People seem to have a bit of a problem with taxes as this article from 2017 reveals:
https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/has-seattles-love-affair-with-tax-measures-come-to-an-end/
I have no idea what sort of political viewpoint Seattle Weekly holds, but the guy they're talking to is not from the GOP.
Remember its the state that voted in Dixie Lee Ray as governor. People are nice in the state, but not always good judges of character. Dixie was a character.
Mattb
Feb 28, 2020, 10:52:20 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:19:07 -0600, Mitchell Holman
There are moderate places or better than the likes of Seattle.
Seattle cost of living high, taxes and fees high, crime high,
homelessness high.
The problem is to far left and thing get bad. Socialism is a failed
experiment. To far right is just as bad but can't show you a current
example.
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Seattle cost of living high, taxes and fees high, crime high,
homelessness high.
The problem is to far left and thing get bad. Socialism is a failed
experiment. To far right is just as bad but can't show you a current
example.
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Mattb
Feb 28, 2020, 10:54:01 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:20:38 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Really? Does the government have such power?
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Ted
Feb 28, 2020, 10:56:13 PM2/28/20
to
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 19:47:55 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit
<youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ted said:
> > No taxes are fair cloud.
> If you're paying the government for certain services on a per use
basis I don't have a problem.
True.
<youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ted said:
> > No taxes are fair cloud.
> If you're paying the government for certain services on a per use
basis I don't have a problem.
> As a guy who grew up in Seattle and loved it, but didn't know how
much until I lived some other places.
> Homes were inexpensive, there wasn't a lot of crime, schools were
decent, and Seattle Transit could get you anywhere, just not fast.
> People seem to have a bit of a problem with taxes as this article
from 2017 reveals:
>
https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/has-seattles-love-affair-with-tax-me
asures-come-to-an-end/
> I have no idea what sort of political viewpoint Seattle Weekly
holds, but the guy they're talking to is not from the GOP.
> Remember its the state that voted in Dixie Lee Ray as governor.
People are nice in the state, but not always good judges of
character. Dixie was a character.
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 11:03:53 PM2/28/20
to
Ted <t...@sam.street> wrote in news:almarsoft.6524888928314345038
@us.news.astraweb.com:
In Texas we have our brand of characters.
"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ,
it is good enough for Texas schoolchildren"
Miram "Ma" Ferguson, Texas governor, 1924
@us.news.astraweb.com:
"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ,
it is good enough for Texas schoolchildren"
Miram "Ma" Ferguson, Texas governor, 1924
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 11:14:12 PM2/28/20
to
Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:finj5f1l3ecl159cd...@4ax.com:
No one hates socialism while they
are watching the government snow plow
clear the government street so they
can get on with their private lives.
news:finj5f1l3ecl159cd...@4ax.com:
are watching the government snow plow
clear the government street so they
can get on with their private lives.
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 28, 2020, 11:14:47 PM2/28/20
to
Correction:
The former Governor of the state of Washington was Dixy Lee Ray.
Ran as as Democrat but acted very Republican at times.
Great woman, smart woman, but not a smooth politician.
The former Governor of the state of Washington was Dixy Lee Ray.
Ran as as Democrat but acted very Republican at times.
Great woman, smart woman, but not a smooth politician.
Mitchell Holman
Feb 28, 2020, 11:16:23 PM2/28/20
to
Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:qvnj5f9kp8olkreqb...@4ax.com:
You mean the government tax incentives and
rebates that *encourages* the export of jobs?
news:qvnj5f9kp8olkreqb...@4ax.com:
rebates that *encourages* the export of jobs?
Mattb
Feb 28, 2020, 11:23:00 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:14:04 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Working together for the common good isn't the type of socialism
the Dems are pushing Bernie and Warren are Pushing more the Venezuela
and Cuba type. Those types only work while there are people to steal
from, when that runs out they collapse under their own weight.
I just don't want to see Seattle became like Detroit.
Pure capitalism won't work either but that will never happen.
the Dems are pushing Bernie and Warren are Pushing more the Venezuela
and Cuba type. Those types only work while there are people to steal
from, when that runs out they collapse under their own weight.
I just don't want to see Seattle became like Detroit.
Pure capitalism won't work either but that will never happen.
Mattb
Feb 28, 2020, 11:24:05 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:16:16 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Yes that is what happens when taxes get to high the export of jobs.
Moderation is the key. Seattle has lost moderation.
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Moderation is the key. Seattle has lost moderation.
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Ted
Feb 28, 2020, 11:56:00 PM2/28/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:16:16 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But Seattleâ s socialists have gone one step further. In
<noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:qvnj5f9kp8olkreqb...@4ax.com:
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:20:38 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> > <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>news:j6ui5f1cqiq2b1b8r...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:38:04 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> >>> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> >>>>news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Seattle Is Socialismâ s Laboratory, and Itâ s Not Pretty
> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:qvnj5f9kp8olkreqb...@4ax.com:
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:20:38 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> > <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>news:j6ui5f1cqiq2b1b8r...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:38:04 -0600, Mitchell Holman
> >>> <noe...@verizont.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Matt Singer <out.o...@wyebur.con> wrote in
> >>>>news:fd%5G.122174$%Y7.1...@fx04.iad:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2/27/2020 6:47 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>>>> Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>> news:m5sg5f99s91a63vok...@4ax.com:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But Seattleâ s socialists have gone one step further. In
order
> to
> >>>>>>> consolidate their newfound power, the
progressive-socialists have
> >>>>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own
favor:
> >>>>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in
taxpayer-
> funded
> >>>>>>> â democracy vouchers,â ? which are easily collected by
> to
> >>>>>>> consolidate their newfound power, the
progressive-socialists have
> >>>>>>> begun to manipulate the democratic process in their own
favor:
> >>>>>>> first, by providing all Seattle voters with $100 in
taxpayer-
> funded
unions,
> >>>>>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by
implementing a
> ban
> >>>>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like
> Amazon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
> >>>>>> decided by big out of state corporations
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amazon is headquartered in Seattle and has huge facilities
there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Amazon is based in Delaware.
> >>>>
> >>>> And even if they WERE "headquartered"
> >>>>in Seattle they do not vote there. What
> >>>>right do they have to influence elections
> >>>>there?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They have the right to leave and take the jobs and tax base
with
> >>> them.
> >>
> >>
> >> Better yet let Mitt Romney just break
> >>them up and send the pieces abroad.
> >
> > Really? Does the government have such power?
> You mean the government tax incentives and
> rebates that *encourages* the export of jobs?
Are you opposed to the export of jobs?
> >>>>>>> activists, and socialist groups; and second, by
implementing a
> ban
> >>>>>>> on corporate spending in local elections by companies like
> Amazon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You think local elections SHOULD be
> >>>>>> decided by big out of state corporations
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amazon is headquartered in Seattle and has huge facilities
there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Amazon is based in Delaware.
> >>>>
> >>>> And even if they WERE "headquartered"
> >>>>in Seattle they do not vote there. What
> >>>>right do they have to influence elections
> >>>>there?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> They have the right to leave and take the jobs and tax base
with
> >>> them.
> >>
> >>
> >> Better yet let Mitt Romney just break
> >>them up and send the pieces abroad.
> >
> > Really? Does the government have such power?
> You mean the government tax incentives and
> rebates that *encourages* the export of jobs?
Ted
Feb 28, 2020, 11:57:42 PM2/28/20
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Ted
Feb 29, 2020, 12:06:24 AM2/29/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 22:14:04 -0600, Mitchell Holman
Good example! And all correctly managed socialism would be similar.
Ted
Feb 29, 2020, 12:18:20 AM2/29/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:22:53 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Because the Dems want anything but socialism.
> Bernie and Warren are Pushing more the Venezuela
> and Cuba type.
Bernie and Warren are sheepdogs who keep socialists voting for
Democrats.
Cuba and Venezuela ... the discussion deserves a separate thread.
wrote:
> Bernie and Warren are Pushing more the Venezuela
> and Cuba type.
Democrats.
Cuba and Venezuela ... the discussion deserves a separate thread.
Ted
Feb 29, 2020, 12:20:27 AM2/29/20
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Mattb
Feb 29, 2020, 2:39:42 AM2/29/20
to
https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/cache/lw600/179/17965/1796554.jpg
>
>> Bernie and Warren are Pushing more the Venezuela
>> and Cuba type.
>
>Bernie and Warren are sheepdogs who keep socialists voting for
>Democrats.
>
>Cuba and Venezuela ... the discussion deserves a separate thread.
Yap Honghor
Feb 29, 2020, 4:02:14 AM2/29/20
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Ted
Feb 29, 2020, 5:31:35 AM2/29/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 23:39:35 -0800, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com>
Well, it's pretty obvious that Bernie was the real deal before 2016.
But, after he was unfairly screwed out of the nomination, he backed
Hillary instead of creating a third party, which the left in this
country desperately needs, it was clear that he sold out. (Was he
threatened? Who knows.) But two leftist journalists wrote articles
titled "Et Tu, Bernie?" Duck 'em *
What's the Dems' goal? The same as always. Give the plebs just enough
to keep them quiet. FDR gave us the New Deal because, back then,
there was a real threat of Communism. And the Dems' supported labor
during the following decades because, again, there was a Communist
threat. Being from Pittsburgh, where almost everyone was a steel
worker or a coal miner (as I was until age 35), I grew up with the
mantra "Dems good, Repubs bad". And it was a conditioning that lasted
until 2016-17 when I finally realized that I was no longer in Kansas.
Then the Soviet Union fell (no more Communist threat) and Bill
Clinton was elected, who rapidly moved the Democratic Party to the
right. And presto change-o, their previous support for labor was
magically transformed into their economically neutral support for gay
rights, abortion, etc., along with the fabrication of numerous
contrivances designed to divide the populace (hence the birth of
SJWs).
So now ... the Democratic Party, like the Republican Party, are
working *solely* for the right. The left in America is all but dead.
A hundred years ago, though, the left was comprised of men who wanted
a decent wage, who knew they had the right to own rifles (and all of
them did), and who knew there was no difference between black and
white, in spite of the racial prejudices prevalent at the time. They
were a real threat to the establishment And they all would have
voted for Trump. (That's basically why the establishment hates him so
badly -- because he wanted to help the real left )
But since then, the right has had 100 years to fabricate a "left"
that was no threat to them. They had the resources to do it, and they
did it. Goebbels would have been so envious. And now we have the pack
of idiots we see here, who imagine themselves to be on the left but
who've been brainwashed to unthinkingly work against their own best
interests and serve the right instead.
Which is okay with me because I've become successful after leaving
the coal mine and so I hope they never get a clue. And I know they
won't. Even after what I just said. (They'll claim I'm "alt-right".).
LMAO. :-)
*Don't google it, duck it. Google is evil. DuckDuckGo isn't.
But, after he was unfairly screwed out of the nomination, he backed
Hillary instead of creating a third party, which the left in this
country desperately needs, it was clear that he sold out. (Was he
threatened? Who knows.) But two leftist journalists wrote articles
titled "Et Tu, Bernie?" Duck 'em *
What's the Dems' goal? The same as always. Give the plebs just enough
to keep them quiet. FDR gave us the New Deal because, back then,
there was a real threat of Communism. And the Dems' supported labor
during the following decades because, again, there was a Communist
threat. Being from Pittsburgh, where almost everyone was a steel
worker or a coal miner (as I was until age 35), I grew up with the
mantra "Dems good, Repubs bad". And it was a conditioning that lasted
until 2016-17 when I finally realized that I was no longer in Kansas.
Then the Soviet Union fell (no more Communist threat) and Bill
Clinton was elected, who rapidly moved the Democratic Party to the
right. And presto change-o, their previous support for labor was
magically transformed into their economically neutral support for gay
rights, abortion, etc., along with the fabrication of numerous
contrivances designed to divide the populace (hence the birth of
SJWs).
So now ... the Democratic Party, like the Republican Party, are
working *solely* for the right. The left in America is all but dead.
A hundred years ago, though, the left was comprised of men who wanted
a decent wage, who knew they had the right to own rifles (and all of
them did), and who knew there was no difference between black and
white, in spite of the racial prejudices prevalent at the time. They
were a real threat to the establishment And they all would have
voted for Trump. (That's basically why the establishment hates him so
badly -- because he wanted to help the real left )
But since then, the right has had 100 years to fabricate a "left"
that was no threat to them. They had the resources to do it, and they
did it. Goebbels would have been so envious. And now we have the pack
of idiots we see here, who imagine themselves to be on the left but
who've been brainwashed to unthinkingly work against their own best
interests and serve the right instead.
Which is okay with me because I've become successful after leaving
the coal mine and so I hope they never get a clue. And I know they
won't. Even after what I just said. (They'll claim I'm "alt-right".).
LMAO. :-)
*Don't google it, duck it. Google is evil. DuckDuckGo isn't.
LinuxGal
Feb 29, 2020, 10:08:12 AM2/29/20
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https://badinage1.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/dixy-lee-ray.jpg
LinuxGal
Feb 29, 2020, 10:12:12 AM2/29/20
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> Correction:
>
> The former Governor of the state of Washington was Dixy Lee Ray.
>
> Ran as as Democrat but acted very Republican at times.
After Mount St. Helens erupted, President Carter asked her
> Correction:
>
> The former Governor of the state of Washington was Dixy Lee Ray.
>
> Ran as as Democrat but acted very Republican at times.
what the state needed from the federal government. She
said, "M-O-N-E-Y." Typical Democrat. A Republican governor
would have said, "Thoughts and prayers!"
Don Martin
Feb 29, 2020, 10:51:36 AM2/29/20
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On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 07:07:50 -0800, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net>
wrote:
Don't sell her short--she may have had hairy toes at the time of that
photo, but who knows what she might have been a half century before?
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
wrote:
photo, but who knows what she might have been a half century before?
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Mitchell Holman
Feb 29, 2020, 10:57:09 AM2/29/20
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LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote in
news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2002290709440.9039@teresita-Latitude-D630:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>
>> Correction:
>>
>> The former Governor of the state of Washington was Dixy Lee Ray.
>>
>> Ran as as Democrat but acted very Republican at times.
>
> After Mount St. Helens erupted, President Carter asked her
> what the state needed from the federal government. She
> said, "M-O-N-E-Y." Typical Democrat. A Republican governor
> would have said, "Thoughts and prayers!"
>
Texas Rejects Aid From Canada, Says "Send Prayers" Instead
SEPTEMBER 1, 2017
Do Facebook prayers count? Texas Secretary of State
rejects aid from Canada, asks for prayers instead.
When the good people of Quebec offered blankets, beds,
water, and other much needed relief effort to those
devastated by Hurricane Harvey, Texas Secretary of
State Rolando Pablos rejected the generous offer, and
asked for “prayers from the people of Quebec” instead.
CBC News reports Quebec’s Minister of International
Relations Christine St-Pierre says she spoke with
Texas Secretary of State Rolando Pablos earlier this
week, "offering to send equipment and crews to help
restore power and to provide blankets, beds, pillows
and hygienic products."
However, Pablos rejected the generous offer, and
instead requested "prayers from the people of Quebec."
https://tinyurl.com/ss8z74h
You can't make this stuff up...........
news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2002290709440.9039@teresita-Latitude-D630:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>
>> Correction:
>>
>> The former Governor of the state of Washington was Dixy Lee Ray.
>>
>> Ran as as Democrat but acted very Republican at times.
>
> After Mount St. Helens erupted, President Carter asked her
> what the state needed from the federal government. She
> said, "M-O-N-E-Y." Typical Democrat. A Republican governor
> would have said, "Thoughts and prayers!"
>
SEPTEMBER 1, 2017
Do Facebook prayers count? Texas Secretary of State
rejects aid from Canada, asks for prayers instead.
When the good people of Quebec offered blankets, beds,
water, and other much needed relief effort to those
devastated by Hurricane Harvey, Texas Secretary of
State Rolando Pablos rejected the generous offer, and
asked for “prayers from the people of Quebec” instead.
CBC News reports Quebec’s Minister of International
Relations Christine St-Pierre says she spoke with
Texas Secretary of State Rolando Pablos earlier this
week, "offering to send equipment and crews to help
restore power and to provide blankets, beds, pillows
and hygienic products."
However, Pablos rejected the generous offer, and
instead requested "prayers from the people of Quebec."
https://tinyurl.com/ss8z74h
You can't make this stuff up...........
Mattb
Feb 29, 2020, 12:06:16 PM2/29/20
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http://bit.ly/387QQbF
His Cuba comment gives a hint of what he want to create.
I'm a never Bernie.
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 29, 2020, 4:36:35 PM2/29/20
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Ted said:
>Interesting. I've never been there. Mebbe I should look into it.
One of the most gorgeous skylines at night.
People are less cliqueish than here in SoCal.
Everything is more expensive except maybe housing which used to be much more affordable.
Many great places to eat, especially if you live seafood.
Its like a smaller version of San Francisco, with less fog.
City council: batshit crazy.
>Interesting. I've never been there. Mebbe I should look into it.
One of the most gorgeous skylines at night.
People are less cliqueish than here in SoCal.
Everything is more expensive except maybe housing which used to be much more affordable.
Many great places to eat, especially if you live seafood.
Its like a smaller version of San Francisco, with less fog.
City council: batshit crazy.
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 29, 2020, 4:39:34 PM2/29/20
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According to the Cost of Living Index, Seattle is the fifth most expensive place to live in America as of the first quarter of 2019. According to the Cost of Living Index, Seattle is the fifth most expensive place to live in America as of the first quarter of 2019.Aug 5, 2019
https://m.seattlepi.com › local › article
Seattle is fifth most expensive place to live in America, says study ...
https://m.seattlepi.com › local › article
Seattle is fifth most expensive place to live in America, says study ...
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 29, 2020, 5:00:32 PM2/29/20
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Like much of the Pacific Northwest (which has the lowest rate of church attendance in the United States and consistently reports the highest percentage of atheism[273][274]), church attendance, religious belief, and political influence of religious leaders are much lower than in other parts of America.[275]
"Sir Hømer Hall, Esq."
Feb 29, 2020, 5:07:54 PM2/29/20
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in the continental USA to have COVID-19 clusters and one
death from it last night?
God's wrath on the unrighteous?
Repent!
--
Yours Truly, Sir Gregøry
"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only
the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to
teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived."
--Henry David Thoreau
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 29, 2020, 5:11:14 PM2/29/20
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https://seattle.broadway.com/theatre/the-paramount-theatre/
One of the biggest and most gorgeous theatres in the US.
One of the biggest and most gorgeous theatres in the US.
Cloud Hobbit
Feb 29, 2020, 5:15:28 PM2/29/20
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Homer Hall said:
>Did you, perchance, notice that area is among the very first
in the continental USA to have COVID-19 clusters and one
death from it last night?
Not all that surprising when one considers the number of ships and planes from Asia.
>Did you, perchance, notice that area is among the very first
in the continental USA to have COVID-19 clusters and one
death from it last night?
>God's wrath on the unrighteous?
>Repent!
No reason to.
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