Re: Paramedics Fired Over Ku Klux Klan Photos
DanielSan
> This 'politically correct' bullshit is going too far. This sounds like
> nothing more than a couple of college kids having a few laughs. Poor taste?
> definitely, but not worth firing the students over.
>
Sorry, but that's not the reason they were fired.
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Stan-O
>This 'politically correct' bullshit is going too far. This sounds like
>nothing more than a couple of college kids having a few laughs. Poor taste?
>definitely, but not worth firing the students over.
Someone should fuck you in the ear to give you some brains...
Ray Fischer
>This 'politically correct' bullshit is going too far.
Then stop posting your nazi PC bullshit.
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ath...@home.com
<dani...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>J wrote:
>> This 'politically correct' bullshit is going too far. This sounds like
>> nothing more than a couple of college kids having a few laughs. Poor taste?
>> definitely, but not worth firing the students over.
>>
>
>Sorry, but that's not the reason they were fired.
Why were they fired?
atheist@home#1554
DanielSan
Not for "having a few laughs". Not for it being in "poor taste".
One person was shown wearing a uniform for the EMS of University
Hospital. Every job I've been in says that you are NOT ALLOWED to do
things that disparage the company you work for...as a representative of
that company.
If I were, as a representative of the company I work for, disparage my
company, I'd be out on my ear. It's in the contract I signed when I
started working there.
I'm surprised that you even had to ask that question.
Mark K. Bilbo
> This 'politically correct' bullshit is going too far. This sounds like
> nothing more than a couple of college kids having a few laughs. Poor taste?
> definitely, but not worth firing the students over.
Jerk Young: pro-slavery, pro-KKK, pro-Nazi.
And yet talks about "decency" all the time...
ath...@home.com
<dani...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>ath...@home.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:55:14 -0700, DanielSan
>> <dani...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> J wrote:
>>>> This 'politically correct' bullshit is going too far. This sounds like
>>>> nothing more than a couple of college kids having a few laughs. Poor taste?
>>>> definitely, but not worth firing the students over.
>>>>
>>> Sorry, but that's not the reason they were fired.
>>
>> Why were they fired?
>
>Not for "having a few laughs". Not for it being in "poor taste".
>
>One person was shown wearing a uniform for the EMS of University
>Hospital. Every job I've been in says that you are NOT ALLOWED to do
>things that disparage the company you work for...as a representative of
>that company.
>
>If I were, as a representative of the company I work for, disparage my
>company, I'd be out on my ear. It's in the contract I signed when I
>started working there.
>
>I'm surprised that you even had to ask that question.
Why?
I didn't see anything that I feel they should have lost their jobs
over.
atheist@home#1554
Douglas Berry
following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
>This 'politically correct' bullshit is going too far. This sounds like
>nothing more than a couple of college kids having a few laughs. Poor taste?
>definitely, but not worth firing the students over.
The KKK is a terrorist organization.
Do you support the terrorists, IBen?
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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
Cary Kittrell
You know, as in "decent white folk".
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Mike Painter
PG&E always puts cones out around their vehicles. Apparently it saves a lot
of accidents.
It is a condition of employment and if you don't do it and get caught you
are fired without recourse.
Another example of "condition of employment" is found in teh Roman Catholic
Priesthood where they take a vow of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
If they------- What? Really?
And they aren't fired?
Never mind.
DanielSan
Billzz
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> you understand you can't joke about terrorist and criminal behavior.
I think Steve Allen wrote the book on what is comedy, satire, spoof, parady,
and other genre of taking a serious subject and making fun. A good example
(and he is always a good example) is Mel Brooks who could even (in "The
Producers") make an entire musical sequence called "Springtime for Hitler,"
and not only get away with it, but there was absolutely no question that it
was *not* serious, it was comedy.
So if the people in question ( I did not look very long at the pic) did not
break into song and dance, but treated it seriously, then it is not comedy,
or satire, or parady, and they can be taken seriously, and fired. And sued,
for that matter.
One of the defenses against copyright violation, or libel, or slander, is
that the performance was *NOT* serious, it was parady.
So the bottom line is the question, "What was in their intent?" Was it
comedy? If so, walk. If not, face the results.
>
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ath...@home.com
I just have a tendency to think firing should be an absolute last
resort regarding most offenses.
>Another example of "condition of employment" is found in teh Roman Catholic
>Priesthood where they take a vow of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
>If they------- What? Really?
>And they aren't fired?
>
>Never mind.
Heh :)
atheist@home#1554
ath...@home.com
<dani...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
Christian monks in white robes?
I wouldn't judge the intent by the photo.
However the cones on the heads do appear to be suspicious.
Still, I wouldn't just assume it is what it appears to be.
But these are EMS people and if an investigation concluded that the
intent was racist I would have to agree that because of their
positions as public servants no second chances are justifiable.
Makes me think me though.
I once took the body of a beautiful little four year old black girl to
the E.R.
She didn't stand a chance because the white pediatrician at the office
where we picked her up, while doing chest compressions, refused to do
mouth to mouth.
The mother rode to the hosital in the ambulance with us and I'll never
forget the horrible and indescribable scream when they told her that
her only child, the love of her life and everything she lived for was
dead.
That was around 1975 and I have tortured and murdered the sorry
bastard a thousand times since in my dreams.
But in all honesty, in 18 years of emergency services I have never
worked with or around anyone other than him who has let his racist
views affect his care of a patient.
And I was always very impressed by that.
atheist@home#1554
DanielSan
Um, no.
> I wouldn't judge the intent by the photo.
It was intended as hazing.
> However the cones on the heads do appear to be suspicious.
> Still, I wouldn't just assume it is what it appears to be.
> But these are EMS people and if an investigation concluded that the
> intent was racist I would have to agree that because of their
> positions as public servants no second chances are justifiable.
*nod*
That's all I'm saying.
Billzz
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In the defense industry (amongst others, but that is what I know) people
expect to be fired for no reason other than the company did not get the
contract renewed. When President Reagan appeared on TV, at the end of the
cold war, we knew full well that SDI was underfunded, would never be funded,
and it was to cause the USSR to quit, which they did, and the next day,
there was the president in front of a bunch of programs on a board with a
red x through them. The next day, over 600 people were fired from Rockwell
in San Bernadino, CA, and some 130,000 people were fired, just in
California, overall.
In some industries, firing is not the last resort, it is the first resort.
Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
It does depend on contract. But generally uniforms or company IDs
should get involved in even remotely spurious events. I know that for
where I work, there's to be no IDs or uniforms worn so much as down to
the pub. Even for a work function. You just don't do it. And
without the threat, and without carrying through on the threat, it has
no weight as a rule. It just becomes a vague guideline.
> >Another example of "condition of employment" is found in teh Roman Catholic
> >Priesthood where they take a vow of poverty, chastity, and obedience.
> >If they------- What? Really?
> >And they aren't fired?
>
> >Never mind.
>
> Heh :)
>
They must have a good union, and crappy contracts.
Al