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just got back from star wars the last jedi.. No spoilers, just my good or bad opinion

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bil...@m.nu

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Dec 15, 2017, 1:00:49 PM12/15/17
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I was rather disappointed, wait for the video...

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 15, 2017, 1:03:35 PM12/15/17
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On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC-8, bil...@m.nu wrote:
> I was rather disappointed, wait for the video...

luke skywalker is in this one.

the guy who beat darth and the emperor

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 15, 2017, 1:06:01 PM12/15/17
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Christopher A. Lee

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Dec 15, 2017, 2:32:23 PM12/15/17
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:00:33 -0600, bil...@m.nu wrote:

>I was rather disappointed, wait for the video...

I watched part of the first one on TV many years ago, but none of the
others.

viva padrepio

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Dec 15, 2017, 3:41:16 PM12/15/17
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On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC-8, bil...@m.nu wrote:
> I was rather disappointed, wait for the video...

Princess Leia: "Mike Hunt wanted to make an appearance but that would've given the movie an X rating."

John Locke

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Dec 15, 2017, 4:35:41 PM12/15/17
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:00:33 -0600, bil...@m.nu wrote:


>I was rather disappointed, wait for the video...
>
...the first few hundred reviews in IMDB are pretty scathing with just
a handful of hard core Star War fans who gave the film positive
comments. I'll, of course, reseve judgment until I've actually seen
the film but I'll wait for Amazon to stream the thing.

Cloud Hobbit

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Dec 15, 2017, 4:47:06 PM12/15/17
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On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 1:35:41 PM UTC-8, John Locke wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:00:33 -0600, bil...@m.nu wrote:
>
>
> >I was rather disappointed, wait for the video...
> >
> ...the first few hundred reviews in IMDB are pretty scathing with just
> a handful of hard core Star War fans who gave the film positive
> comments. I'll, of course, reserve judgment until I've actually seen
> the film but I'll wait for Amazon to stream the thing.

But overall it gets an 8.1 rating and 93% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Always best to see this kind of movie on a big screen IMO.

John Locke

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Dec 15, 2017, 5:50:02 PM12/15/17
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:47:02 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit
<youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, December 15, 2017 at 1:35:41 PM UTC-8, John Locke wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:00:33 -0600, bil...@m.nu wrote:
>>
>>
>> >I was rather disappointed, wait for the video...
>> >
>> ...the first few hundred reviews in IMDB are pretty scathing with just
>> a handful of hard core Star War fans who gave the film positive
>> comments. I'll, of course, reserve judgment until I've actually seen
>> the film but I'll wait for Amazon to stream the thing.
>
>But overall it gets an 8.1 rating and 93% on Rotten Tomatoes.
>
...don't know where they're getting the 8.1 rating from. Go through
the first few hundred comments and you'll see what I mean. There's
a whole lot of unhappy customers. Something's amiss.

>Always best to see this kind of movie on a big screen IMO.

...I'll go once a year or so to see something at the theater. But
I'm perfectly happy watching movies on my own big screen system at
home..and the popcorn deson't cost $5 per bag ! When the Terminator
reboot comes out in 2019, maybe I'll actually go to the theater.

hypatiab7

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Dec 15, 2017, 6:05:14 PM12/15/17
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We already knew that.

bil...@m.nu

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Dec 15, 2017, 7:10:43 PM12/15/17
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good choice..... If you can imagine star trek the wrath of Kahn then
star trek the voyage home.. LOL this movie was actually worse than
star trek the voyage home

Teresita

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Dec 15, 2017, 7:30:53 PM12/15/17
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On 12/15/2017 02:50 PM, John Locke wrote:
> ...don't know where they're getting the 8.1 rating from. Go through
> the first few hundred comments and you'll see what I mean. There's
> a whole lot of unhappy customers. Something's amiss.
>

The generic reaction is that the thing was overhyped. I reckon in a week
or two a lot of theaters will come to regret agreeing to send Disney 65%
of receipts, as Disney demanded.

John Locke

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Dec 15, 2017, 8:03:09 PM12/15/17
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 16:30:03 -0800, Teresita <badi...@netzero.net>
wrote:
...yeah, the norm is 55%, so this is a new benchmark for Disney.
Financialy, the movie is doing well at the box office...it;s made over
100 million so far. I'm sure Dsiney will make tons of money on this
thing. Every kid on the planet will probably go see it. I'd just like
to have a cut of the popcorn & soda sales !

Teresita

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Dec 15, 2017, 8:28:41 PM12/15/17
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On 12/15/2017 05:03 PM, John Locke wrote:
> ...yeah, the norm is 55%, so this is a new benchmark for Disney.
> Financialy, the movie is doing well at the box office...it;s made over
> 100 million so far. I'm sure Dsiney will make tons of money on this
> thing. Every kid on the planet will probably go see it. I'd just like
> to have a cut of the popcorn & soda sales !

I saw the first film when I was 12, and every one after that on the
first day, even the abominable prequels. But something happened along
the way. I still haven't seen Rogue One all the way through. I don't
think I'll watch this one until it streams on Netflix.

Ted

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Dec 15, 2017, 8:34:58 PM12/15/17
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Teresita <badi...@netzero.net> wrote:
> On 12/15/2017 05:03 PM, John Locke wrote:
>> ...yeah, the norm is 55%, so this is a new benchmark for Disney.
>> Financialy, the movie is doing well at the box office...it;s made over
>> 100 million so far. I'm sure Dsiney will make tons of money on this
>> thing. Every kid on the planet will probably go see it. I'd just like
>> to have a cut of the popcorn & soda sales !
>
> I saw the first film when I was 12,

The first Star Wars movie?

MattB

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Dec 15, 2017, 8:35:59 PM12/15/17
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Who owns Disney now?

MattB

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Dec 15, 2017, 8:37:48 PM12/15/17
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What you have something against saving the whales. .... :-)))


Teresita

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Dec 15, 2017, 8:45:48 PM12/15/17
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On 12/15/2017 10:33 PM, Ted wrote:
> Teresita <badi...@netzero.net> wrote:
>> On 12/15/2017 05:03 PM, John Locke wrote:
>>> ...yeah, the norm is 55%, so this is a new benchmark for Disney.
>>> Financialy, the movie is doing well at the box office...it;s made over
>>> 100 million so far. I'm sure Dsiney will make tons of money on this
>>> thing. Every kid on the planet will probably go see it. I'd just like
>>> to have a cut of the popcorn & soda sales !
>>
>> I saw the first film when I was 12,
>
> The first Star Wars movie?

Yes, but only in October 1977, several moons (or space stations) after
it had been released. Cost a dollar.

Ted

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Dec 15, 2017, 9:08:50 PM12/15/17
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Yes, I saw it then too. Long time ago. :)

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 16, 2017, 3:41:30 PM12/16/17
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I would wager that you don't understand star wars, tis why you don't like it.
You don't get it, do you?

Cloud Hobbit

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Dec 16, 2017, 7:04:49 PM12/16/17
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It has been reported that if it were not for the concession sales in the as theaters movie theaters would lose money most of the time.

Yap Honghor

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Dec 16, 2017, 9:29:19 PM12/16/17
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Yap: "Viva came around to ask for a role, but we can allow massive flop!"

Cloud Hobbit

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Dec 16, 2017, 9:45:53 PM12/16/17
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don't know where they're getting the 8.1 rating from. Go through
the first few hundred comments and you'll see what I mean. There's
a whole lot of unhappy customers. Something's amiss.
_________________

Perhaps more people have posted comments since you looked.

Cloud Hobbit

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Dec 16, 2017, 9:48:05 PM12/16/17
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There are now about 86,000 comments on the Last Jedi on IMDB.

MattB

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Dec 17, 2017, 2:30:53 PM12/17/17
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 22:54:57 +0800, Peter Pan <p...@172.16.1.1> wrote:
>It's publicly traded, has been for ages.
>See ticker symbol DIS.

I know that, what I was thinking about is this
Disney Agrees to Buy Key Parts of 21st Century Fox in $52.4 Billion
Deal
https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-to-acquire-key-parts-of-21st-century-fox-for-52-4-billion-1513253593

Teresita

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Dec 17, 2017, 2:41:31 PM12/17/17
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On 12/17/2017 11:34 AM, MattB wrote:
> I know that, what I was thinking about is this
> Disney Agrees to Buy Key Parts of 21st Century Fox in $52.4 Billion
> Deal

Overnight that makes the mother alien in Alien Resurrection a Disney
Princess.

Siri Cruise

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Dec 17, 2017, 3:04:54 PM12/17/17
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In article <p16h8...@news3.newsguy.com>, Teresita <badi...@netzero.net>
wrote:
I like how at the very end of Last Jedi they arrive on Tatooine and discover Jar
Jar Binks has been training all these year. Jar Jar is the Last Jedi.

Rey is the daughter of Jar Jar and a Disney alien queen.

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MattB

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Dec 17, 2017, 3:19:44 PM12/17/17
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:41:09 -0800, Teresita <badi...@netzero.net>
wrote:
Wonder if that will make movie prices even higher?

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 17, 2017, 4:12:42 PM12/17/17
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On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 12:04:54 PM UTC-8, Siri Cruise wrote:

> I like how at the very end of Last Jedi they arrive on Tatooine and discover Jar
> Jar Binks has been training all these year. Jar Jar is the Last Jedi.
>
> Rey is the daughter of Jar Jar and a Disney alien queen.

All false.

Teresita

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Dec 17, 2017, 4:38:53 PM12/17/17
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Every time two corporations merge, prices drift higher, because there is
less competition. And we don't have Republicans who understand that
(like Teddy Roosevelt did) anymore.

Alex W.

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Dec 17, 2017, 5:14:13 PM12/17/17
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Movie prices may drift higher, but that is a sign of desperation. There
has never been more competition for the consumer's entertainment dollar.
Netflix, Amazon, HBO and Stan, to name but a few, are stealing
customers from Hollywood by the million. Not to mention the entire
computer gaming industry, which can offer a customer hundreds if not
thousands of hours of interactive entertainment for the price of ten
cinema tickets. So let them merge ... their end is coming.

MattB

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Dec 17, 2017, 6:26:59 PM12/17/17
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 13:38:38 -0800, Teresita <badi...@netzero.net>
wrote:

>On 12/17/2017 12:27 PM, MattB wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:41:09 -0800, Teresita <badi...@netzero.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/17/2017 11:34 AM, MattB wrote:
>>>> I know that, what I was thinking about is this
>>>> Disney Agrees to Buy Key Parts of 21st Century Fox in $52.4 Billion
>>>> Deal
>>>
>>> Overnight that makes the mother alien in Alien Resurrection a Disney
>>> Princess.
>>
>> Wonder if that will make movie prices even higher?
>>
>
>Every time two corporations merge, prices drift higher, because there is
>less competition. And we don't have Republicans who understand that
>(like Teddy Roosevelt did) anymore.

If the Republican tax plan passes I expect that to give Congress to
the Democrats. Seems all they care about is their super rich master
and really think the middle class is stupid.

We really need a more moderate third party in the USA.

MattB

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Dec 17, 2017, 6:29:51 PM12/17/17
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 23:14:09 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
A good home theater makes watching at home better than any commercial
theater.

Teresita

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Dec 17, 2017, 6:42:05 PM12/17/17
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On 12/17/2017 03:31 PM, MattB wrote:
> A good home theater makes watching at home better than any commercial
> theater.

Yes, lately we watch everything at home. The annoyance of dealing with
other human beings with nervous tapping feet and flapping lips isn't
worth it anymore. Laser pointers in the nostril of Jason Bourne, really?

Teresita

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Dec 17, 2017, 6:44:05 PM12/17/17
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On 12/17/2017 03:28 PM, MattB wrote:
> If the Republican tax plan passes I expect that to give Congress to
> the Democrats. Seems all they care about is their super rich master
> and really think the middle class is stupid.

If Trump fires Mueller it's a whole 'nuther ballgame. There won't be a
GOP anymore to take Congress FROM.

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 17, 2017, 6:51:45 PM12/17/17
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Oh, politics. I am so shocked.

Anyway, as stephanopolous pointed out, apparently at some point the feds allowed people to deduct state taxes, this bill takes that away, so setting aside the obvious gimmick of a paltry tax cut, that is negligible amount, so they can claim they cut taxes over or versus the other party, the only real benefitters are the super rich, but many people will pay more in taxes due to the state tax no longer deductible. So instead of a tax cut, it actually for many is a tax increase.

Teresita

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Dec 17, 2017, 6:56:06 PM12/17/17
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On 12/17/2017 03:51 PM, TheRealMccoy wrote:
> Anyway, as stephanopolous pointed out, apparently at some point the feds allowed people to deduct state taxes, this bill takes that away, so setting aside the obvious gimmick of a paltry tax cut, that is negligible amount, so they can claim they cut taxes over or versus the other party, the only real benefitters are the super rich, but many people will pay more in taxes due to the state tax no longer deductible. So instead of a tax cut, it actually for many is a tax increase.

And the Red Staters with black lung and no health care to pay for it
will shell out these higher taxes, happily, because "her emails" and
"Obama was a Kenyan".

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 17, 2017, 7:02:22 PM12/17/17
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On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 3:56:06 PM UTC-8, Teresita wrote:
> On 12/17/2017 03:51 PM, TheRealMccoy wrote:
> > Anyway, as stephanopolous pointed out, apparently at some point the feds allowed people to deduct state taxes, this bill takes that away, so setting aside the obvious gimmick of a paltry tax cut, that is negligible amount, so they can claim they cut taxes over or versus the other party, the only real benefitters are the super rich, but many people will pay more in taxes due to the state tax no longer deductible. So instead of a tax cut, it actually for many is a tax increase.
>
> And the Red Staters

Trump is not firing the mueller guy, but some attorney said the collection of some of the investigatory info was done illegally ...

Teresita

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Dec 17, 2017, 7:24:59 PM12/17/17
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Yes, instead of going directly to the Russians or Wikileaks for the
50,000 transition-era emails, Mueller went to the General Services
Administration (GSA), the schmuck.

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 17, 2017, 7:27:55 PM12/17/17
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I dont know where he went at this point, but most cops do not do parallel construction with a judge approving it, they just do it without the judge ...

John Locke

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Dec 17, 2017, 9:15:12 PM12/17/17
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..I don't mind paying a fair price for concessions but the prices that
theaters charge are totaly ridiculous. If you're taking a couple of
kids to the theater, it'll cost you a small fortune. If they can't
make selling tickets then maybe it's time to close up shop !

Alex W.

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Dec 18, 2017, 5:30:22 AM12/18/17
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Unless you are one of the lucky few with a full-size screen at home, the
experience will never be the same. Movies were made to be experienced
on the big screen, and much of the impact is lost when we view them on
smaller setups.

That said, the overall experience is way better -- we can choose to
drink (or smoke) what we want, we have properly comfortable seating that
is CLEAN, there is not the heady odour of stale popcorn and sweaty
humans in the air, the toilet is closer (and also clean), and when the
person next to us keeps yapping away during the good bits we can tell
them to please shut up without instantly causing a public disturbance.

Don Martin

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Dec 18, 2017, 9:20:09 AM12/18/17
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:30:16 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
My wife was wheelchair bound for the last 15 years of her life, and
she had some continence problems, a combination that made movie
theatres uncomfortable (ever notice the difference in the length of
the lines at women's and men's toilets?). To your list of virtues of
home viewing, I would add the ability to pause the thing for trips to
the john on gossamer wings.

I have tried going to the movies a couple of times since her death,
and the audience is worse, the floor less clean, and the sound system
too bloody loud for comfort (audiences are probably about 80% rock
music fans these days). If you want a big screen, sit closer to it.


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Dec 18, 2017, 10:04:08 AM12/18/17
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In article <3nif3d9b9g4vgj27k...@4ax.com>, Don Martin
<drdon...@comcast.net> writes
From PZ Meyers 'Star Wars' review (in https://freethoughtblogs.com/phary
ngula/"
"Star Wars: The Last Jedi was one of the better ones, actually, which
isn’t saying a heck of a lot, but it does mean you won’t be embarrassed
by it, as you were by the horrible prequels or the patent marketing ploy
of the Ewoks. It also survived the most unpleasant test of a movie ever.

About halfway through the showing here in Morris, someone in the theater
crapped their pants. It wasn’t too near me, so all I suffered through
was the occasional eddy of air passing through bearing the odor of hot
buttered popcorn and poop, and fortunately I hadn’t bought any popcorn
or snack food, so it was only sporadically unpleasant — but no one left
the theater. Not the poopy pants person or anyone seated near them. So I
think we can say the movie was at least that engaging."

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MattB

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Dec 18, 2017, 4:07:55 PM12/18/17
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 11:30:16 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
A good projection system is needed and I think the sound system is
even more important.
>
>That said, the overall experience is way better -- we can choose to
>drink (or smoke) what we want, we have properly comfortable seating that
>is CLEAN, there is not the heady odour of stale popcorn and sweaty
>humans in the air, the toilet is closer (and also clean), and when the
>person next to us keeps yapping away during the good bits we can tell
>them to please shut up without instantly causing a public disturbance.

I don't go often but I and a few of the parents do take the teens out
every couple of months. Food and a movie.

If you are into sports there is nothing better than a decent
projection system.

Alex W.

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Dec 19, 2017, 7:38:41 PM12/19/17
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I don't mind paying more if it is one of the few cinemas that specialise
in adult customers.

No, not in *that* sense, get your mind out of the gutter.

I mean cinemas that do not target the teenager market: that have big
comfy seats, an open bar, snacks that are a bit more upmarket than stale
popcorn, with a sound system that is good rather than LOUD, and that
prefer to show films which are more interesting than the latest Marvel
superhero blockbuster.

John Locke

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Dec 19, 2017, 8:06:53 PM12/19/17
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 01:38:08 +0100, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
...there's a film called "The Jungle", produced in Australia and based
on a true story that I just streamed from Amazon. Beautiful
cinematography. My big screen TV is OK, however, I would have liked to
have seen this one on a big theater screen in the setting you
described.

Alex W.

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Dec 20, 2017, 6:32:12 PM12/20/17
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My stock example is David Lean's masterpiece "Lawrence of Arabia". More
than 50 years old, it is still utterly stunning cinematography when seen
on the big screen, and an unrepeatable experience on anything smaller.

My big eureka moment in this regard came a few years back when the
British Film Institute screened a season of Hitchcock films. All these
movies were, of course, familiar to me from the television -- but to see
them in the cinema was a shock and a revelation. On the small screen,
"Birds" appears dated and a tad silly ... but in the cinema, there is
the full impact. Ditto the shower scene from "Psycho": it still has the
power to shock when it is up there on the big screen.

Teresita

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Dec 20, 2017, 8:39:55 PM12/20/17
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On 12/20/2017 03:32 PM, Alex W. wrote:
> My stock example is David Lean's masterpiece "Lawrence of Arabia". More
> than 50 years old, it is still utterly stunning cinematography when seen
> on the big screen, and an unrepeatable experience on anything smaller.

Once projected in 70mm, but now people watch in on their (as David Lynch
puts it) "fucking phone".

TheRealMccoy

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Dec 20, 2017, 8:43:36 PM12/20/17
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How many people did Jesus sacrifice cover, in your assessment?
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